On May 03 2011 11:39 RavenLoud wrote: Great victory for the NPD. Next election will be really interesting.
I have trouble calling it either a victory for the Conservatives or the NDP as I feel it's more just a splitting up of the failed Liberal and Bloc seats. Ontario went very Conservative, Quebec went very NDP.
I would have been fine with another Conservative minority and going in felt that we would gain from a more effective opposition in the form of a bolstered NDP sitting in the official spot. It's sort of what I began to expect. Now I have to hope that the political gamesmanship Harper showed himself capable of (to the chagrin of the Parliamentary process) was only a symptom of trying to operate in a minority and not indicative of being completely fucking evil.
You and me both. I tend to believe he is completely fucking evil. But I would love to be pleasantly surprised to the contrary.
Have you guys not seen the pic of Terminator Harper? Its on these forums somewhere and I cant help but think it looks a little too real to be a photoshop
Listen, the conservative government don't need to lower corporate tax and make huge prisons and all that bs about lowering health care budget and removing the firearms crap.
Canada has one of the lowest corporate tax in the world... IN THE WORLD it doesn't help anybody except the corporations.. He's basically selling canadians to the corporate world and their resources too. He's basically trying to suck the country die while not giving FUCK ALL about the environment.
The huge prisons is fucking ridiculous. Not worth the billions
Health care needs to be helped and you know what... cutting the budget doesn't do that unless you want to force privitization of hospitals which is fucking ridiculous since every "advanced" country in the world except the usa has good health care systems.
On May 03 2011 12:30 Freaky[x] wrote: canada has just said ... money is worth more than anything else in the world and rich people deserve better and more things than middle / lower class
Meh... like 40% of 26% of the 27mil registered voters said that.
Canada is barely a democracy ;p atleast when it comes to our civil society. If citizens don't exercize their rights do they have them?
Even if they do exercise those "rights" how fast do you think they could be taken away?
Ha sound like Marx. Human emancipation~
Rights given by a government will be taken away if required by their interests.
On May 03 2011 12:46 Freaky[x] wrote: Listen, the conservative government don't need to lower corporate tax and make huge prisons and all that bs about lowering health care budget and removing the firearms crap.
Canada has one of the lowest corporate tax in the world... IN THE WORLD it doesn't help anybody except the corporations.. He's basically selling canadians to the corporate world and their resources too. He's basically trying to suck the country die while not giving FUCK ALL about the environment.
The huge prisons is fucking ridiculous. Not worth the billions
Health care needs to be helped and you know what... cutting the budget doesn't do that unless you want to force privitization of hospitals which is fucking ridiculous since every "advanced" country in the world except the usa has good health care systems.
I'll continue later
That's a very good point. It's important to promote an economy that is not temporary. It's great to have oil and use it as much as possible, but when those natural resources go dry, what will our economy become?
What is the conservatives stance on possession of drugs? I hear they want to put larger penalties for them, which is kinda stupid in my opinion, but it's ridiculous people complaining about our healthcare. 2/3rd of the people who don't have a family doctor never bothered to look for one. Drugs laws are the only things that worries me about Harper, I don't want some insane government spending on keeping young adults in jail for the most useless reasons.
On May 03 2011 12:46 Freaky[x] wrote: Listen, the conservative government don't need to lower corporate tax and make huge prisons and all that bs about lowering health care budget and removing the firearms crap.
Canada has one of the lowest corporate tax in the world... IN THE WORLD it doesn't help anybody except the corporations.. He's basically selling canadians to the corporate world and their resources too. He's basically trying to suck the country die while not giving FUCK ALL about the environment.
The huge prisons is fucking ridiculous. Not worth the billions
Health care needs to be helped and you know what... cutting the budget doesn't do that unless you want to force privitization of hospitals which is fucking ridiculous since every "advanced" country in the world except the usa has good health care systems.
On May 03 2011 12:27 caradoc wrote: Well, we now live in a fascist state.
Goodbye to public healthcare, the cbc, social programs, any hope we had for strong environmental policy...
Hello to megaprisons, more military spending, lower corporate taxes, concentrated power and further assault on democratic traditions.
Lmao. Sensationalize more please.
And also, people really need to stop blindly thinking that corporate tax cuts are bad for Canada. A corporate tax cut means that corporations make more profit, which fuels corporate growth and expansion within our economy. If there's a cut of 3%, and as a result industry grows by 4% there was an increase in tax dollars that can go towards funding other things within the country. It also creates jobs, which nobody is going to argue is a bad thing.
I voted NDP - but honestly I'm so tired of people who haven't looked at the results of a single vote or bill that passed through parliament saying random radical bullshit.
Your math is incorrect. If industry grows by 4%, that additional growth does not make up for the 3% tax cut.
Not only that, but people need to move beyond the logic that 'gdp = prosperity'. It doesn't it only = prosperity for the top 10% of income earners.
My logic is sound, even if my math isn't.
And your math, while probably correct - is also presumptuous. It depends on the profits and number of corporations.
I don't have an opinion on Quebec separatism, but I really respect Gilles Duceppe, he's so eloquent, intelligent and lives for ideals-- he's not subservient to corporate interests.
On May 03 2011 12:52 Warrior Madness wrote: Whoa whoa. Duceppe: "I will leave but others will continue, until Quebec becomes its own country." Good riddance douche.
Well Harper promised to crush them with a majority, thats the only plus side to this election if he goes at it. Cut some spending towards Quebec and treat em like equals for a change please.
On May 03 2011 12:27 caradoc wrote: Well, we now live in a fascist state.
Goodbye to public healthcare, the cbc, social programs, any hope we had for strong environmental policy...
Hello to megaprisons, more military spending, lower corporate taxes, concentrated power and further assault on democratic traditions.
Lmao. Sensationalize more please.
And also, people really need to stop blindly thinking that corporate tax cuts are bad for Canada. A corporate tax cut means that corporations make more profit, which fuels corporate growth and expansion within our economy. If there's a cut of 3%, and as a result industry grows by 4% there was an increase in tax dollars that can go towards funding other things within the country. It also creates jobs, which nobody is going to argue is a bad thing.
I voted NDP - but honestly I'm so tired of people who haven't looked at the results of a single vote or bill that passed through parliament saying random radical bullshit.
Your math is incorrect. If industry grows by 4%, that additional growth does not make up for the 3% tax cut.
Not only that, but people need to move beyond the logic that 'gdp = prosperity'. It doesn't it only = prosperity for the top 10% of income earners.
My logic is sound, even if my math isn't.
And your math, while probably correct - is also presumptuous. It depends on the profits and number of corporations.
There's also no certainty that the extra profit will be re-invested into the country.
Bye Duceppe, a good leader for a worse than useless party. Hope they never come back, the Bloc made majority that much harder to attain by draining seats away from the other parties, and though their policies weren't all that bad, they're obsession with making Quebec a new nation was getting tiring...and apparently Quebeckers agree!