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Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
March 18 2011 09:03 GMT
#21
Yeah I think the government is really spending their time wisely with this.

There really aren't any other pressing issues which need their attention, are there???
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shane_danger16
Profile Joined October 2010
United States40 Posts
March 18 2011 09:06 GMT
#22
So i didnt quite read the whole thing because its a wall of text but from my understanding they are trying to include copyright infringement in the patriot act so they can wire tap to help fight it? Seems like that is just one step towords ending a right to privacy because once you start allowing other things to be intruded on that dont have to do with national security you open the floodgates for other things to be "spyed" on for lack of a better term. Bottom line I don't like it.
te3l
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada126 Posts
March 18 2011 09:06 GMT
#23
Honestly, I cant tell you how many games i bought because they looked fun when other streamers were playing it. I can't tell you how many good songs I have bought from listening to peoples stream (I only buy songs off itunes that I really really really like)

I think this law is for the people that are streaming movies and television shows there's a lot of them on JTV alone.
Dont Panic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States194 Posts
March 18 2011 09:09 GMT
#24
Yay! Use my own tax money against me! I am glad this is a democracy where the interest of the people is top priority, rather than corporations.
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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
March 18 2011 09:14 GMT
#25
This is on the whole good, GomTV restreams shouldnt be allowed, though all streaming companies are already taking action on them as soon as they find them.

So people cant stream with music anymore? thats crap.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
March 18 2011 09:17 GMT
#26
On March 18 2011 18:06 te3l wrote:
Honestly, I cant tell you how many games i bought because they looked fun when other streamers were playing it. I can't tell you how many good songs I have bought from listening to peoples stream (I only buy songs off itunes that I really really really like)

I think this law is for the people that are streaming movies and television shows there's a lot of them on JTV alone.

It's that and radio/music, it's the reproduction and distribution that always been the target.
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
March 18 2011 09:22 GMT
#27
I can't wait to go to jail for sharing entertainment.
feebas
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland268 Posts
March 18 2011 09:23 GMT
#28
I hope I am not alone in having made the disturbing observation that governments all over seem to be cracking down hard on personal privacy, especially on the Internet.

This is shaping up to be the civil rights struggle of our generation.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 09:32:30
March 18 2011 09:25 GMT
#29
On March 18 2011 18:22 Odal wrote:
I can't wait to go to jail for sharing entertainment.

? You just figured out you can go to jail for that. Have you never seen the FBI warnings before watching a vhs dvd etc. How you never heard of the people getting stupid high fines or jail time for distribution of music and movies. Usually just fines if you're just seeding something on a torrent as you are not the original ripper you are part of the supply chain and thus accountable for distribution. If entertainment was free then who would play the writers,actors, composers?
On March 18 2011 18:29 Brian333 wrote:
Nice try, but it's not going to work. The internet has become larger than any nation, any law, and regulation.

yup it's why you see people all the time doing things online and never paying any sort of consequence for such actions. Also child porn is rampant and other stuff and things.
Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 09:31:47
March 18 2011 09:29 GMT
#30
Nice try, but it's not going to work. The internet has become larger than any nation, any law, and regulation.

It's just a waste of time to try and fight the internet to protect corporations and what not. You aren't winning that war. They should look more towards embracing, incorporating, and adapting to the current age rather than desperately trying to hang onto something they already lost.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 09:33:48
March 18 2011 09:33 GMT
#31
On March 18 2011 17:35 Zim23 wrote:
You guys remember the FBI warnings at the beginning of all movies on VHS and DVD? This is basically the same thing. Unless you're a major streamer this won't affect you.

reasons people remove those from the actual videos is because they don't want to watch advertisements each time they put a disc in, so they remux the bdmv/bdiso

also prevents the video players from downsampling audio/video
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echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
March 18 2011 09:34 GMT
#32
Because, this is whats wrong in America, people re-streaming copyrighted content. Once we crack down on this issue, the income gap will decrease, education levels will soar, college enrollment rates skyrocket, poverty rates will decline.

/sarcasm to the max.
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XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
March 18 2011 09:44 GMT
#33
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revenir
Profile Joined December 2010
Malaysia7 Posts
March 18 2011 09:51 GMT
#34
On March 18 2011 13:17 chaoser wrote:
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The White House today proposed sweeping revisions to U.S. copyright law, including making "illegal streaming" of audio or
video a federal felony and allowing FBI agents to wiretap suspected infringers
.

In a 20-page white paper (PDF), the Obama administration called on the U.S. Congress to fix "deficiencies that could hinder enforcement" of intellectual property laws.

The report was prepared by Victoria Espinel, the first Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator who received Senate confirmation in December 2009, and represents a broad tightening of many forms of intellectual property law including ones that deal with counterfeit pharmaceuticals and overseas royalties for copyright holders. (See CNET's report last month previewing today's white paper.)

Some of the highlights:

• The White House is concerned that "illegal streaming of content" may not be covered by criminal law, saying "questions have arisen about whether streaming constitutes the distribution of copyrighted works." To resolve that ambiguity, it wants a new law to "clarify that infringement by streaming, or by means of other similar new technology, is a felony in appropriate circumstances."

• Under federal law, wiretaps may only be conducted in investigations of serious crimes, a list that was expanded by the 2001 Patriot Act to include offenses such as material support of terrorism and use of weapons of mass destruction. The administration is proposing to add copyright and trademark infringement, arguing that move "would assist U.S. law enforcement agencies to effectively investigate those offenses."


• Under the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act, it's generally illegal to distribute hardware or software--such as the DVD-decoding software Handbrake available from a server in France--that can "circumvent" copy protection technology. The administration is proposing that if Homeland Security seizes circumvention devices, it be permitted to "inform rightholders," "provide samples of such devices," and assist "them in bringing civil actions."

...


http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20043421-281.html

So technically would this make streamers playing music illegal? Will this affect people who stream video games? What about video games that contain copyrighted audio? So much for the support of an open internet from the Obama administration...


Tried to do a little bit of research since I'm not quite up to date with the news but if the Patriot Act is to help against terrorism, and they're raising illegal streaming to a federal felony on a level such that the Patriot Act covers it, it seems that either they're putting illegal streaming on the level of domestic terrorism or they're misusing the Patriot Act.

Another thought - if 'piracy is theft' and grand theft isn't covered by the Patriot Act (or is it? the wiki page is long), then why should illegal streaming be covered by it?
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GriMeR
Profile Joined February 2010
United States148 Posts
March 18 2011 09:55 GMT
#35
On March 18 2011 17:30 BenBuford wrote:
I'm all for musicians (and any other artist for that matter) getting paid for their work, I think copyright is a good thing and I don't personally illegally download music, as I like to support those bands (and labels) that I like.

Songs played on gamer-streams are probably more like advertising than infringing on copyrights though.
I'm sure a lot of artists would be happy to get their songs played to thousands of viewers/listeners - a prime audience of young men.



True... so true... im tired of all these copyright laws ... it makes me want to never pay for music or movies again...
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Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
March 18 2011 10:05 GMT
#36
heh, wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard asks Husky for royalties. 800k subscribers on youtube gotta make some serious cash!
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
March 18 2011 10:20 GMT
#37
Boy, I love living in China where none of this bullshit exists.
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
March 18 2011 10:36 GMT
#38
Team America, World Police.

If only you could blow up half of the internet to scare the other half into obedience.
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kidleader
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)233 Posts
March 18 2011 10:51 GMT
#39
Game streaming will be fine, but not the copyrighted music streamers play. BW/KPOP streaming will remain a grey area I'm sure.
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Dismantlethethroat
Profile Joined March 2011
114 Posts
March 18 2011 14:38 GMT
#40
Internet FTW. We will Destroy The Opposition.
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