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Especially sad to see how american lobbies have such huge influence over our own politicians and manage to pass almost any legislation here.Infringement by Streaming might become a Felony - Page 3
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
Especially sad to see how american lobbies have such huge influence over our own politicians and manage to pass almost any legislation here. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On March 18 2011 19:20 Redunzl wrote: Boy, I love living in China where none of this bullshit exists. Yup where you can bootleg a Bentley and 60% of IE6 users come from. :D People in China would be peeved about intellectual property if they created more of their own, instead of just copying others. you know happenstance. | ||
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heroyi
United States1064 Posts
if this is like the drug war, where large sacks of money are invested into something with little accomplishment (like prosecution of, say, marijuana), then... well wtf... | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On March 19 2011 02:23 heroyi wrote: Doesn't America have bigger agendas to really worry about then this... if this is like the drug war, where large sacks of money are invested into something with little accomplishment (like prosecution of, say, marijuana), then... well wtf... Cost per effectiveness, you saying that government can't do more then 3 things? That they had to drop everything to propose this? Which is not a bill in itself. This is a much easier idea to push though then other more pressing matters, because it's the decisions that people are divided upon that throwing more people at it doesn't help. | ||
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heroyi
United States1064 Posts
On March 19 2011 02:27 semantics wrote: Cost per effectiveness, you saying that government can't do more then 3 things? That they had to drop everything to propose this? Which is not a bill in itself. This is a much easier idea to push though then other more pressing matters, because it's the decisions that people are divided upon that throwing more people at it doesn't help. im not questioning whether the government cant multitask. But for them to declare "war" on internet piracy is...well futile. right now the cost per effectiveness for the drug war is pretty shitty right now. Lets just hope that this could actually help stimulate the economy a little (new departments hiring, more people buying etc...). | ||
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ffz
United States490 Posts
I love the people saying government should be doing something better with their time. Makes it sound like they're only doing this the whole fucking day. I see nothing wrong with them doing this. NBA NFL MBL have legal subscriber based streaming available. Anyone that using restreams is stealing and should be prosecuted as thieves. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On March 19 2011 02:31 heroyi wrote: im not questioning whether the government cant multitask. But for them to declare "war" on internet piracy is...well futile. right now the cost per effectiveness for the drug war is pretty shitty right now. Lets just hope that this could actually help stimulate the economy a little (new departments hiring, more people buying etc...). well unlike something like a drug war the house and senate is not really divided upon piracy. | ||
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HenL
Norway111 Posts
On March 18 2011 18:00 SwiftSpear wrote: I wish for once the US government would take the side of the populous and not the gigantic corporations. Wouldn't that be nice.. | ||
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forthwith
United States23 Posts
Under federal law, wiretaps may only be conducted in investigations of serious crimes, a list that was expanded by the 2001 Patriot Act to include offenses such as material support of terrorism and use of weapons of mass destruction. The administration is proposing to add copyright and trademark infringement, arguing that move "would assist U.S. law enforcement agencies to effectively investigate those offenses." There was all sorts of rhetoric that popped up around the time of the institution of the Patriot Act (and for considerable time afterward--hell, it's still going) that it could lead to crazy stretches of power by the government. Ways that could ease the clamping down on the population. I'd always thought that kind of talk was just paranoid fear-mongering, but to extend the Act to the internet so easily... I find it hard to imagine that "use of weapons of mass destruction" should be dealt with the same way as copyright infringement. | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On March 19 2011 02:32 ffz wrote: They're doing this because ppl keep restreaming NBA, NFL, MLB, UFC, Boxing matches... they've already shut down atdhe.net recently because of it. This won't affect sc2 streaming at all. The world does not exist to fuck over sc2 gamers. It would give an organization like the RIAA an excuse to sue streamers over playing music with their stream. It doesn't mean it will happen, but the RIAA makes most of their cases going after generally clueless people and making examples out of them. A bill like this is actually something streamers should worry about. | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
On March 18 2011 17:06 R0YAL wrote: Wonder if they will even care about streaming video games. "they" will be a few thousand bad and low level lawyers with no morals. Sending you declarations to cease and desist and pay 100$ + 50 for the tough job they have done, none of which will go to the owners of the copyrighted material. | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On March 19 2011 02:41 motbob wrote: Some of the comments in this thread are pretty ridiculous. The federal government isn't going to spend their time prosecuting people for playing copyrighted music on their streams. Use your heads. The fact that they could and that it would be a felony is still pretty worrying. | ||
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Gatsbi
United States1134 Posts
On March 19 2011 02:41 motbob wrote: Some of the comments in this thread are pretty ridiculous. The federal government isn't going to spend their time prosecuting people for playing copyrighted music on their streams. Use your heads. But they COULD. Probably 99.9% of them they won't. But do you want to be that 0.01% that gets made an example of? I wouldn't want my computer to be wiretapped. | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
Video game companies are never going to go after streamers because they suffer no damages, streaming is free advertising, and it'd be terrible PR if they sued someone for streaming a game. Unless you're Blizzard, hehehe. "The suffer no damages" part is moot to Blizzard :O | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
On March 19 2011 02:56 travis wrote: The fact that they could and that it would be a felony is still pretty worrying. Not really. They can also arrest me for downloading music, yet i'm not really afraid of that, nobody is. It doesnt matter to 99.9999% of all people downloading illegal music. Nothing will change. | ||
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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sushiman
Sweden2691 Posts
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Zeddicus
United States239 Posts
On March 19 2011 03:01 Gatsbi wrote: But they COULD. Probably 99.9% of them they won't. But do you want to be that 0.01% that gets made an example of? I wouldn't want my computer to be wiretapped. I agree with Gatsbi. I doubt it would happen, but if it did.... http://www.google.com/search?q=jammie thomas-rasset | ||
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