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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 03 2012 08:59 GMT
#541
On August 03 2012 17:31 Pusekatten wrote:
Just tried out those gold beyond, and have to say they are the best I have tried so far.
Thanks for the tips lad


idk if they are available where you live but try finding a cigarette that has natural tobacco with no additives

american spirits in the us
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Pusekatten
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway234 Posts
August 03 2012 10:28 GMT
#542
On August 03 2012 17:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 17:31 Pusekatten wrote:
Just tried out those gold beyond, and have to say they are the best I have tried so far.
Thanks for the tips lad


idk if they are available where you live but try finding a cigarette that has natural tobacco with no additives

american spirits in the us

Is there any way to see if it has nautral tobacco, or do you just have to know it be heart? All the packs here got those warrnings and scare pictures on them, so its not common to have any writing on them except the brand name.
Groog
Profile Joined July 2010
127 Posts
August 03 2012 13:26 GMT
#543
On August 03 2012 19:28 Pusekatten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 17:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
On August 03 2012 17:31 Pusekatten wrote:
Just tried out those gold beyond, and have to say they are the best I have tried so far.
Thanks for the tips lad


idk if they are available where you live but try finding a cigarette that has natural tobacco with no additives

american spirits in the us

Is there any way to see if it has nautral tobacco, or do you just have to know it be heart? All the packs here got those warrnings and scare pictures on them, so its not common to have any writing on them except the brand name.


I know right, they're awesome. The only bad thing about them is that they are so smooth down the throat that it's way too easy to chain-smoke them :p

If you wanna try some natural tobacco, I think Prince (might be some other brand) has some. They come in brown/light brown/yellow + white packs, representing the strength. At least I think they're natural seeing as how fast they burned and the strong taste of tobacco.
TheNikeYork
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States389 Posts
September 19 2012 17:08 GMT
#544
Thank you so much for this guide.
Everyone knows cucumbers have terrible souls
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
October 03 2012 09:46 GMT
#545
i must say, a nice cigar goes very well with some good whiskey
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 05 2012 09:46 GMT
#546
has anyone smoked tobacco out of a bong?

back when I was smoking weed i'd do it every now and then just for kicks. now i've got a small plastic bottle bong I made and it's the only way I smoke tobacco. i buy natural american spirits either in cig form or pouch form and use that. i actually prefer it to smoking cigarettes as it A) provides a stronger hit B) I have exact control on how much or little I smoke when it's time for tobacco and C) i've found that I generally go through tobacco less quickly than if i just smoke cigs

wake up, do a tobacco hit, and then i have to lay down and i'm unable to move for like 5 minutes
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
October 05 2012 09:50 GMT
#547
On August 03 2012 06:54 Groog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 00:59 Pusekatten wrote:
Hey, started smoking about 3-4 months ago due to a stressful job, I have been smoking mostly Marlboro fags, but I think the taste is a little to harsh so I have started trying out different brands.
Any advises on some good fags?


Try Malboro Beyond, the ones with a small menthol ball in the filter that you break. I hate menthol cigarettes, and so did most of the people I recommended the beyond's to, however it tastes nothing like menthol cigarettes but it has the silky smooth smoke that they do. No one I recommended them to have smoked anything else since :p


P.S Haven't smoked for a month now! It's weird, first week/10 days is so fucking horrible, then it goes away, and now a month later it's horrible again... IDK why...

Just wanted to note on this that Marlboro Beyond are some of the worst so called "click" cigarettes on the market. Better ones include Lark 7 Mint Splash (best one by far), Camel Activate and Lucky Strike Click&Roll.

It's the only thing I smoke, but I stay away from the marlboro ones, I think the normal Marlboro mint tastes way better.
YokoKano
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States612 Posts
October 05 2012 11:14 GMT
#548
Tobacco is an interesting substance. For years I smoked Marijuana religiously, and I found that in isolation if I was careful and focused, Marijuana could be a catalyst for insights about the world. However, Marijuana became harder and harder to obtain. Being a straight guy without any interest in sexual encounters with men, and without any inclination toward darker acts sometimes required to obtain weed, I found that dealers were not cooperating with me.

I'm a friendly and polite guy, and I think that I'm interesting to talk with. Anyway, I was willing to pay the full price of weed (an absurd 60$ to buy an eighth of an ounce). That wasn't enough, so I had trouble finding dealers because I was uncompromising. I consider USD to be legal tender, and even on the black market buying weed, my expectation as an economist is that I should be able to buy weed with $ alone, and not resort to any other form of payment (certainly not homosexual sex or any sort of occult ritual).

So it happened that despite being a regular weed smoker, I found myself high and dry. I have what Stephen King calls the American tendency to go to extremes. So, being unable to buy weed, I decided to buy a pipe and some pipe Tobacco. Naturally, I bought like 5 ounces of Black Cavendish and just went to town. I also had a portable vape, and so that was my starting point.

I'd sit on the back porch by the parents' pool and smoke. I let the dog in to roam around the yard and keep me company. Dogs get a bad rap. They're very intelligent creatures with a good sense of the world, and having Scout to pounce on bugs and bees, not to mention the occasional Skink, kept my spirits high while I smoked. I didn't start slow.

I was pushing about half an ounce through my Iolite (portable vape) pretty much every day, sitting in a cast iron rocker beneath a big umbrella to ward sunburns. Anyway, I'd just smoked through my last half ounce of weed, and at the tail end of it I saw some new sights. I had a glass piece at the time, a sort of hand me down from the first guy I regularly smoked with. Toward the middle of the last bowl I actually got probably three smoke rings from the bowl itself -- something I never see out of a glass piece. I was smoking pretty fast though, so maybe the quick combustion had something to do with it.

The smoke rings rose perfectly round from the piece, and I had a weird sense they belonged to Clint Eastwood and maybe Jack Nicholson (?). It was a weird sort of intuition, though not impossible because my dad had some contact with those guys back in his hey day. Nicholson, you know, has been dodging death for years, and Eastwood probably not much different. I suspect those guys have some movies left to film.

It so happened that not long after, I felt like the splitting image of Eastwood. And I guess that got me fired up to do some serious smoking. I was talking like him -- like I imagined Eastwood'd talk if he were there. It felt right.

My dad walks onto the porch and says to me, "You know, my dad was driving until he was 90." I'd struggled through 5 fills of the vape to that point, and I looked at him like he was crazy. I got the impression he was telling me that my grandfather could have knocked out another 4.

The spirit of Eastwood was still strong in me, and I was gonna back down. So make my day, I said to myself, if grandpa could do 9 of these, then I'm sure you did 10. I'll do 11.

By the 7th fill I was buzzed like a kite with my tail floating in the wind. I opened the back gate of from the patio to the yard and started walking the path. We've got a bench by the dog door, so I sat down there and decided to take out number 8.

There was a peculiar branch with some young leaves on it, probably a hundred, maybe a hundred fifty feet away. It was maybe forty feet off the ground and hanging over the creek. I fixed my gaze on those leaves and resolved to learn my grandfather's art of focus -- don't take your eyes off it while you smoke. I was light-headed, but I pushed through the smoke, and felt the world fading in and out in a blur of indigo shades, almost like the arrayed lines in a 3D movie or the splay of colors when gasoline meets water.

A mosquito was on my ankle gorging itself. And fast as lightning my hand shot down and slapped it, leaving some rivulets of blood behind. I hoped not much of it was mine.

Making my way back up to the porch, I told myself, "There's no way in hell I've got another of these in me."

Nonetheless, I sat back down in the cast iron rocker with the top of the lattice half way cut, in a perfect straight line right across the top. The number 13 popped up in my mind, and I knew that was my target.

I loaded the vape again as dark began to fall. In the twilight, things began to get interesting. It seemed like spirits, white wisps were dancing above the patio, near level with the bushes. There's a chimney, like an exhaust above my dad's office, a black one above a second black one. At the time, it seemed to me obvious that the lower one was his, and the one above it was my grandfather's.

That's the way of our line, I'd say, to quote Gladiator, "What we do in life echoes in eternity."

And so it seemed to me at the time. We put in a day's work while we're here, and when we pass, there's no fading. Every day we're gone from the mortal plane, our higher self repeats the works of our life, and adds to the value of our house. I didn't know my grandfather that well; but, I'll tell you, from what I knew of him, I knew there was a lot of catching up to do.

So I had a Citronella candle burning to ward away the insects, and a big umbrella over my head to guard against showers. With the dark setting in and what looked like the wisps of spirits sailing through the air, I felt like I had already passed partway into that next world. It seemed my every motion was accompanied by a ghostly echo, an eerie blur of white.

I felt certain no harm could find me there, if I was in the presence of so many ancestors whose works and courage I could only imagine. So, despite the faintness in my head, I hit the ignition and felt the crackle of the vaporizer springing to life.

I smoked reverently, gazing up to that second chimney above my dad's office. With this abundance of wisps circling the patio, gently gliding with an unfelt breeze, nothing seemed more important than to embrace the legacy of a family I had not been born into. As an adopted child, it's tough to feel like part of the family, and with the world troubled like it is, I'd never been able to grow close to my parents; much less the ironclad, war-hardened suit of armor that called itself my grandfather. Those sparkling blue eyes and the absolute certainty, not to mention genius, of his every move was nothing short of terrifying to me as a youth.

Older now, having seen and done many things beyond the wildest dreams of those younger years, I felt something like destiny hovering about me, calling me to peer into a history I thought I'd abandoned; a history I felt I had no part in and that was no part of me.

Still, it settled on me that this legacy was mine to embrace.

In the midst of that ninth bowl, there began some voices. They seemed to reach to me from a distant past, when men fought with metal blades and arrows tipped with steel. I experienced a vision of some ancient rite of passage, like Leonidas and the wolf, and I heard the voice of a youth terrified of what it meant to become a man.

"I can't do it."

I continued to pull on the vaporizer, drawing in smoke from the Tobacco. I was lighting it fiercely then, burning more than vaporizing the Tobacco. And so the story continued. My mind turned to those who couldn't rise to the challenge, and yet it seemed those voices faded quickly. Working my way through the smoke, the youthful voices vanished, and in their place rose the voices of men. Or more than men, I could hear authority in their presence; so not men, but kings. Men whose responsibility was to far more than just themselves.

Before my eyes, the wisps continued to dance, and I felt the surge of destiny, as though finally my lineage embraced me, though until that moment its origin had escaped me.


IQ 155.905638752
Unifex
Profile Joined September 2010
United States68 Posts
October 05 2012 19:26 GMT
#549
dude, I was gonna say you need a better dealer, one who does not require homo sex, but damn that seems like some good weed.
YokoKano
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States612 Posts
October 06 2012 01:24 GMT
#550
On October 06 2012 04:26 Unifex wrote:
dude, I was gonna say you need a better dealer, one who does not require homo sex, but damn that seems like some good weed.


i've got a guy who is pretty good up where i've got my apartment. lately he's received death threats to the effect that he can't sell to me. so, hopefully that'll get cleared up and i'll be able to buy again
IQ 155.905638752
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
October 06 2012 01:38 GMT
#551
I've smoked Golden Virginia almost exclusively for 16 years. No smoker's cough or any of that crap but I've recently started weight training at the grand old age of 31 and I feel it is holding back my progress. Going to give quitting a real go for new year.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 06 2012 02:05 GMT
#552
i'm sorry if you're telling the truth but i do not trust that story at all
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
MooMu
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 02:24:52
October 06 2012 02:24 GMT
#553
On October 05 2012 20:14 YokoKano wrote:
Tobacco is an interesting substance. For years I smoked Marijuana religiously, and I found that in isolation if I was careful
And so it seemed to me at the time. We put in a day's work while we're here, and when we pass, there's no fading. Every day we're gone from the mortal plane, our higher self repeats the works of our life, and adds to the value of our house.

<snip snip>

Before my eyes, the wisps continued to dance, and I felt the surge of destiny, as though finally my lineage embraced me, though until that moment its origin had escaped me.




Were you poisoning yourself with tobacco?
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
October 08 2012 01:43 GMT
#554
Oh my dear FLASH.

Stopped smoking for about 2 weeks due to being sick for 1 week and traveling with family for another, then this morning took some LONG and DEEP drags out of a ZhongHua.

The nicotine rush hit me like a bullet train; the instant delivery of dopamine felt so much stronger than what tobacco should offer. Then the dizziness... oh man, I had to sit down and then put my head down on my desk for 10 minutes before the nausea subsided. I was laughing from the euphoria yet unable to sit up and really enjoy it, definitely an unique experience.

80% pure pleasure and 20% nauseating dizziness... all in all, a good morning felt like smoking for the first time ahhh
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 02:18:37
October 08 2012 02:16 GMT
#555
On August 03 2012 16:23 Groog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 08:11 Obvious.660 wrote:

Never tried the beyond, I used to smoke Marlboro Smooths, those were decent for a while but I think they changed the formula a few months after they were introduced because they suddenly tasted awful to me. Switched back to reds after that.

@Groog; yeah I guess depending on the person those cravings could come/go. Maybe get a vaporizer that you can use instead? Or are you just gonna stick to cold turkey?


Second time I'm quitting... Cold turkey + cannabis when it gets really bad is the best way I've found dealing with the withdrawal. What I've found is that there are periods when the withdrawal comes back, for me it was worst at like 1 week, 1 month and 3 months. Just wanted to share my pain... ^^


Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 12:22 Pusekatten wrote:
On August 03 2012 06:54 Groog wrote:
On August 03 2012 00:59 Pusekatten wrote:
Hey, started smoking about 3-4 months ago due to a stressful job, I have been smoking mostly Marlboro fags, but I think the taste is a little to harsh so I have started trying out different brands.
Any advises on some good fags?


Try Malboro Beyond, the ones with a small menthol ball in the filter that you break. I hate menthol cigarettes, and so did most of the people I recommended the beyond's to, however it tastes nothing like menthol cigarettes but it has the silky smooth smoke that they do. No one I recommended them to have smoked anything else since :p


P.S Haven't smoked for a month now! It's weird, first week/10 days is so fucking horrible, then it goes away, and now a month later it's horrible again... IDK why...

Thanks mate, I think they sell those here, Its a gray pack, with a big red ">" on it right?
I have also been thinking about Marlboro gold touch, but I cant find them anywhere :/


Malboro Gold Beyond are the ones I used to smoke. Yes, that's the pack (Gold one has a golden >). It has a holographic round sticker on it as well.



Canabis is a good way to help you give up sigarettes but its not realy stopping your nicotine adiction.
An average joint contains more then 10 times the amount of nicotine then a sigarette, i guess it lasts for a while.
If you smoke a joint before sleeping you can pretty easily do the next day without sigarettes till the evening (and you smoke a joint again)
Am dying to give up smoking again (only quitted once) but its not easy
Will give it a try again soon as i absolutely hate smoking.
Wish it was illegal
heroyi
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1064 Posts
October 08 2012 02:29 GMT
#556
I personally upvote and recommend the natural American Spirit. Honestly it is delicious. It just tastes really clean and very smooth.
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Nutwagon
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada10 Posts
October 08 2012 02:31 GMT
#557
On October 08 2012 11:16 Rassy wrote:
Canabis is a good way to help you give up sigarettes but its not realy stopping your nicotine adiction.
An average joint contains more then 10 times the amount of nicotine then a sigarette, i guess it lasts for a while.


Pretty sure you can't get addicted to weed like you can with a cigarette. I dunno where you heard a joint contains 10 times the amount of nicotine compared to a cigarette, that's insanity.
Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1693 Posts
October 08 2012 02:33 GMT
#558
On October 08 2012 11:31 Nutwagon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 11:16 Rassy wrote:
Canabis is a good way to help you give up sigarettes but its not realy stopping your nicotine adiction.
An average joint contains more then 10 times the amount of nicotine then a sigarette, i guess it lasts for a while.


Pretty sure you can't get addicted to weed like you can with a cigarette. I dunno where you heard a joint contains 10 times the amount of nicotine compared to a cigarette, that's insanity.


I think he means Tar, not sure if 10x is accurate though
The pretty things are going to hell, they wore it out but they wore it well
heroyi
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 02:38:35
October 08 2012 02:37 GMT
#559
On October 08 2012 11:33 Powerpill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 11:31 Nutwagon wrote:
On October 08 2012 11:16 Rassy wrote:
Canabis is a good way to help you give up sigarettes but its not realy stopping your nicotine adiction.
An average joint contains more then 10 times the amount of nicotine then a sigarette, i guess it lasts for a while.


Pretty sure you can't get addicted to weed like you can with a cigarette. I dunno where you heard a joint contains 10 times the amount of nicotine compared to a cigarette, that's insanity.


I think he means Tar, not sure if 10x is accurate though

oh dear.

I don't mean to derail but Cannabis is WAY healthier option than tobacco. Nicotine is not in weed (I don't know where you got that) and the tar residue is nothing compared to tobacco (at least the processed ones like Marl and Camel)

edit.
What do you guys think of Winstons? Tried them a bit and honestly they are a meh to me. Better than the mainstream ones like Marl but ehh
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YokoKano
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States612 Posts
October 31 2012 07:13 GMT
#560
So, to owners of the Storz and Bickel Volcano, the solid valve set comes with a balloons that has a metal clip at the top. How do they accomplish this? Presumably the metal clip is not re-usable with future balloons. If the metal clip is re-usable, how do you accomplish this?

If the metal clip is not re-usable, could Storz & Bickel sell balloon replacement sets with metal clips at the top?
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