But it's too late for me, and I'm sure there are others that it is too late for. We might as well band together and get what we can out of it since life is even shorter now.
My main goal in making this thread is to broaden my and others' knowledge of tasty tobacco products. There are lots of different ways to smoke tobacco so I'll start by sharing my preferences.
You have to admit, it can make you look pretty cool.
Lets start with the basics...
Cigarettes The stuff that comes in a box. I don't really prefer them, I've never experienced any with a flavor that didn't taste like chemicals. They burn ridiculously fast for some reason.
I like to roll my own cigarettes. It's more moist and fresh, and you can still tell that what you are smoking resembled a leaf at some point in time. Also, because you have to roll them yourself, you can't instantly indulge, you have to really want one. You can also sometimes find these in flavors, which can make things kinda fun. If you smoke pre-rolled ones in the box I would recommend trying out one of these:
The Cigar I also enjoy smoking cigars on occasion. Mostly the mini ones, cigarillos, because I seem to get bored of the fat ones halfway through. I don't know much about cigars actually, which is unfortunate. But here is a picture.
On April 21 2011 02:04 Hawk wrote: Does anyone have a good beginners guide for cigars?? I enjoy them, but it's similar to drinking the first time in that you just kind of try anything without actually appreciating the subtleties of what you're smoking. I just try random stuff and save the rings if I like it. I'm probably smoking the Coors Light of cigars more often than not.
Starting out with cigars can be pretty intimidating. There are some guides out there, but you never really know how good they are. Here are some basics.
Things you need: A cutter – You really need a simple guillotine cutter. One with two blades is better than one with a single blade. You can get a cheap one for around $4, but prices go p dramatically from there ($20 is the most you’d ever need to spend, anything higher is purely for aesthetics). A second cutter – If you decide you like cigars, you’ll eventually want to buy a smaller cutter, wither a plug (or punch) cutter or cross cutter (also called V-cut). Punch cutters are more popular than cross cutters, but it’s all about personal preference. Some cigars simply smoke better with small cuts, and you’ll learn that over time.
Fire – You need matches or a butane lighter. Wick lighters like Zippos are not ideal for cigars. The fluid these lighters never completely combusts, and can settle in the cigar. This will damage the flavor.
A Humidor – If you buy cigars at your local shop and smoke them within a couple days, you don’t need one of these. If you intend to store your cigars for any extended period of time (letting you buy in bulk), you absolutely need a humidor and humidification system. Some humidors are pretty affordable, or may come with an order of cigars you get online. Small humidors are very easy to maintain, and the humidification system if fairly inexpensive. Research before buying.
What to smoke: Before I recommend cigars for you to try, you should know what I’m talking about. A cigar has 3 main components: filler, binder, and wrap. The filler is the bulk of the cigar. In quality cigars, it’s made of whole leaf tobacco (long filler). The binder is a leaf that is wrapped around the filler to hold it together tightly. The wrap is the final leaf that finishes off the cigar. I recommend you unwrap the next cigar you smoke, or rather, what’s left of it when you finish.
The key to starting out on cigars is to try as many different ones as you can. Your local tobacco shop owner will probably have specific recommendations for you, but here’s a rough idea on what to look for:
Hand Rolling – You’ll want to smoke hand rolled cigars pretty much exclusively. There are some decent machine made ones, but 99% are crap (made from sub-par tobacco or leftover scraps).
Variety – When starting out, buy a lot of different cigars. Try everything, from the lightest Connecticut to the blackest maduro. Find what you like. Do you like smooth or spicy cigars? Oily or dryer? Large or small gauge? Try everything. When you find a cigar that you really like, try others from that company, others from that country, and others of that style. There’s a lot of trial and error in starting out. Embrace it.
Cost – Don’t spend less than $3 or more than $6 until you have a feel for what you like. The extra cost will be wasted until you understand what you’re smoking.
Brands to try: Here are some reasonably priced brands that still give you quality cigars.
Rocky Patel’s Edge – Most Rocky Patels are pretty expensive. They make some of the best cigars in the world. The Edge is their most affordable cigar, and happens to be the best cigar per cost available, imo.
Oliva – Oliva consistently makes some of the best cigars on the market for reasonably prices. Every Oliva I’ve ever smoked has been great. They produced the cigar of the year a few years ago, the Serie V, and it’s only about $6.50 (Don’t try this until you’re experienced. It will knock you on your ass.).
Hoyo De Monterrey – This is one of the oldest companies out there. They continue to produce great cigars at reasonable prices. They also have a huge variety to choose from. Every tobacco shop carries at least something from this company.
5 Vegas – These guys have put out a lot of really respectable, really cheap cigars in the past couple years. The 5 Vegas gold is just as good as similar cigars 3 times it’s price (if you’re into Connecticuts). Try anything they make.
Punch – Punch is a Honduran company that produces a relatively small variety of cigars. Everything they make, though, is very good. I know a lot of people who smoke these as their standby cigars, even after years of smoking.
CAO – Frankly, CAO makes cigars that are built for beginners. They’re a little more expensive, but are very accessible to any smoker (in terms of flavors). I especially recommend the COA Brazilia and COA Italia. CAO also makes a lot of flavored cigars, which you should avoid.
House Blends – A lot of companies and websites have their own special blends that they sell. Some are total crap. Some are pretty good. All are affordable. The cigar.com blends are respectable, and very cheap.
That’s about it. If you are looking for more-specific recommendations, want advice on cutting/lighting/smoking, or need to know more about different types of cigars, let me know. You’ll find that cigar smokers are among the nicest people around (next to SC people, of course). If you join a cigar forum and ask for help, you’ll receive it by the bucket.
The Pipe And now, most elegantly of all, is the pipe. But who the heck smokes a pipe? Not me. But sometimes I wish I did. If anyone out there smokes a pipe please enlighten me to its mystical ways. All I know is that there are lots of flavors and blends, which are quite enticing.
On April 22 2011 05:45 Omnipresent wrote: A beginner’s guide to pipe smoking
Buying your Pipe Obviously the first thing you need to do is to buy a pipe. This is where the bulk of your initial investment will go. After you get everything you need, maintaining your pipe and buying tobacco is extremely affordable.
Cost - You should buy your pipe at a tobacco shop, not a grocery or convenience store. You can spend up to several hundred dollars for a pipe, but a good starter pipe will run you somewhere between $30 and $45.
Style – Pick a pipe you like. Hold it in your hand. Make sure it’s comfortable. This will be the pipe you use for a while. Pipes are made from all sorts of materials, but the most common are wood (usually Briar) and Meerschaum. You’ll want a Briar pipe to start, as Meerschaum pipes are usually more expensive and more difficult to maintain.
The Bowl – Choosing a bowl that fits well in your hand is always the most important thing, but there are other points to consider. For your starter pipe, you should pick something with a medium size bowl. You should be able to easily fit your thumb in it (to the first knuckle) with extra room to move around. Anything much larger can be tough to manage. Anything much smaller can clog easily
Stem – Again, comfort is the most important thing here. My only advice is to pick a pipe with a slightly curved stem for your starting pipe. Straight stem pipes are fine, but you might find yourself sucking in resin and moisture through the pipe if you’re not experienced. This taste’s awful.
Pipe Cleaners – Yup, that’s why they’re called pipe cleaners. They aren’t just for arts and crafts.
Fire– Any fire will do. Wood matches work best, since you can really get them close to the tobacco.
What to Smoke There are hundreds of different types of pipe tobacco. Here are some things to look for when starting out.
Cost – You should be spending between $5-$15 for your first bag of tobacco (1oz or 0.5oz). Prices vary between shops. Your best bet is to ask the owner of your local tobacco shop for recommendations on starting tobacco.
Aromatic or Natural – There are many varieties of tobacco, but most fall in either the aromatic or natural category. Aromatics, as the name suggests, have very fragrant smoke. They tend to be slightly flavored like fruit, wine, vanilla, coco, etc. The scent is usually quite nice. You can smoke Aromatics just about anywhere, and no one will bother you. Natural tobaccos taste like tobacco. There’s obviously a good deal of variation. If you like Cigars, you’ll probably like natural tobaccos.
Cut – If you’re starting out, the cut is irrelevant. I’m just mentioning it in case your local tobacco shop is full of serious pipe people. You can figure out which cuts feel best for you, though you’ll probably decide it doesn’t matter.
Variety – Try lots of different tobaccos. Some shops will even let you sample a blend before you buy (just ask). Figure out what you like and stick with it.
How to Smoke This is the tricky part. A lot of pipe smokers have pretty involved rituals, but there are some basic things you need to know.
Packing – Loosely fill your bowl with tobacco. You can use less, but start with full bowls at first. Once it’s full, press down on the tobacco slightly with your thumb. Once you start to feel resistance let go. It’s important not to pack too tightly or too loosely. When you’re starting out, err on the side of loose packing. A tightly packed bowl can be unsmokable.
Lighting – Put the pipe in your mouth and hold the flame over the tobacco. Do not touch the flame to the tobacco itself. Pull slightly on the pipe so the flame is pulled down to the tobacco. The goal is to get the top layer to smolder. If you see fire, you’ve made a mistake.
Tamping – Once lit, take a series of small puffs to keep it going. While puffing, you should use the flat end of your multi tool (the tamper) to press down slightly on the tobacco. Carefully press around the edges. If you press too hard, the pipe may get clogged or simply go out. If done properly, you should be able to look into the bowl and see a glowing ember in the center. This heats the tobacco below it, creating smoke.
Smoking – Don’t inhale. If you have powerful lungs, it wont hurt, but pipe tobacco isn’t meant to be inhaled. Keep the stem angled towards your mouth, with the bowl below. this will help prevent moisture from dripping up the stem and into your mouth. While smoking, you may realize you’re getting less and less smoke. Tamp the tobacco slightly when this happens, and it should revitalize the pipe. You may need to relight until you get the hang of it. The draw should always be smooth, much smoother than you’re used to with cigarettes or cigars. If the draw gets too tight and you have a multitool with a poker, don’t be afraid to push the tobacco around a little. Just loosen it up. Don’t mix the embers/ash with unburned tobacco.
Practice – Really, just practice. Pipe smoking takes effort to master, but it’s a great experience once you can comfortable pack the amount you want, light it, and keep it going easily.
Cleaning Maintaining your pipe is absolutely vital, and takes very little effort. A well maintained pipe is a joy. A poorly maintained pipe is a nightmare. Every time you finish smoking, run a pipe cleaner through the stem of the pipe. You should also bend one in half and gently sweep out the inside of the bowl (being careful not to scratch the carbon buildup on the side). If you notice a lot of moisture in the pipe when you start smoking, or after you finish, you can simply leave a pipe cleaner in the pipe between smokes. This will absorb some.
You want to be sure not to clean the bowl too much. Over time, you should build a layer of black carbon around the inside of your bowl. This is desirable. It seasons the bowl and makes it easier to smoke.
If your pipe comes apart, you should periodically (every month or so) take it apart and clean whatever you can (with pipe cleaners, no water). Make sure it’s intended to come apart. Don’t force it. Many pipes are not meant to be disassembled. If yours is one of these pipes, don’t bother with the extra cleaning.
Now onto my favorite smoking peripheral...
The Hookah
It is possibly the most underrated form of smoking. It's image may conjure up relations to hash and stoners, but I assure you it is smoking in its most innocent form. It's tobacco mixed with sweet fruit flavors and molasses, ignited by hot coals, and as the smoke is pulled through it is filtered and cooled by a bowl of water. The best description for it is "candy air". If you smoke anything at all you should smoke this. My favorite flavors are Cherry, or a Raspberry-Rose blend. Apple is also quite popular. It's a pain to clean, but it's worth it to indulge on occasion, and if you're lucky you can find a place near you where they serve them. It lasts for hours and it's one of my preferred methods of social gathering.
lol@disclaimer. Or you could just quit, it's never gone too far. Hate away haters, I smoked for 7 years, since I was 13. Mom smoked while I was in the womb, her and dad smoked around me since I was born. Quit a year ago, no aid at all, just said 'Fuck this.' put the pack down, and walked away.
If your gonna smoke something and damage your lungs, why not smoke something that actually gives you something back worth while. I won't say what it is but it's pretty obvious.
Still it's better to not smoke at all.
Come to think of it, can you make tobacco brownies?
Smoking is one of a few things I've never tried and don't think I ever will. Even the people that smoke regularly hate it, and it kills you. I have a few vices like alcohol and a shitty diet that will kill me too, but at least those are pretty enjoyable.
Hookah with nakhla (flavortobacco w/e) is the chillest thing after ganja. I mean, friends gathering around and smoking the pipe, it's just perfect way to hang out tbh.
Been smoking cigarettes regularly for a while now. Not hooked on it completely though, mostly smoking because of habit. Good, because i can quit whenever i want pretty much. Just ordered some flavorcigarettes from china couple weeks ago. Had to order and test em out after i saw them.
I smoke normal filter cigarettes mainly Marlboro but sometimes I get parliament lights because I like that filter design. I think the reason why they burn so fast is because if you look closely at the cigarette there are little rings all around it and I was told long ago that they were phosphorus so by the time the lit part gets to that ring it burns a little bit more making your cigarette run out without smoking it. A way for tobacco companies to make more money off of us I suppose. Weirdly enough, I have noticed that cigarettes seem to turn off by themselves now. I'm not sure if this has changed recently.
When I was younger and had less money I would smoke those golden virginias, and drum also. You're right when you say you have to really want the cigarette b/c you have to roll each one you smoke and can't just get the instant gratification you get from the normal filter. But I remember that after a while of smoking rolled I just got annoyed with it and would ask a friend for a normal filtered one hehe.
I love smoking from a hookah also every now and then. It's really bizarre because when you inhale it doesn't feel like you're smoking but when you exhale tons of smoke comes out.
Tobacco... I think we should all quit for obvious health reasons, but after a while it becomes a way of life and very hard to let go.
Smoking a pipe is really nice. It's the best way in my opinion, but unfortunately I haven't had a pipe in some years. It's tasty, long lasting, and damn does it feel classy. You can pick up a pipe at any tobacconist, but you may need to go to a couple of places before you find a good selection of nice tobaccos.
The basics are that you always light it with a match to preserve flavor and you never inhale the smoke. Keep your tobacco sealed up so it doesn't dry (also don't get a lot of it at one go for the same reason). Also, be sure to clean your pipe. If you don't it will get wretched filthy.
A pipe can last quite some time, and it tastes far better than alternatives because it doesn't need to be mild for inhalation. It is enjoyable to experiment with different flavors and types of tobacco.
On March 14 2011 16:23 Sultan.P wrote: I smoke normal filter cigarettes mainly Marlboro but sometimes I get parliament lights because I like that filter design. I think the reason why they burn so fast is because if you look closely at the cigarette there are little rings all around it and I was told long ago that they were phosphorus so by the time the lit part gets to that ring it burns a little bit more making your cigarette run out without smoking it. A way for tobacco companies to make more money off of us I suppose. Weirdly enough, I have noticed that cigarettes seem to turn off by themselves now. I'm not sure if this has changed recently.
When I was younger and had less money I would smoke those golden virginias, and drum also. You're right when you say you have to really want the cigarette b/c you have to roll each one you smoke and can't just get the instant gratification you get from the normal filter. But I remember that after a while of smoking rolled I just got annoyed with it and would ask a friend for a normal filtered one hehe.
I love smoking from a hookah also every now and then. It's really bizarre because when you inhale it doesn't feel like you're smoking but when you exhale tons of smoke comes out.
Tobacco... I think we should all quit for obvious health reasons, but after a while it becomes a way of life and very hard to let go.
I smoke Marlboros as well and occasionally they'll start to go out. I was told it was a way to help prevent brush fires/wild fires?
I really enjoy cigars, because I love the taste of them. Preferably corona-formatted habanos by Cohiba, Romeo Y Julieta, or Montecristo. Sadly they are quite expensive (Romeos sell for around ~10$, Cohibas ~20$ and Montecristos ~15$). I would recommend drinking a glass of good whiskey with them.
On March 14 2011 16:23 Sultan.P wrote: I smoke normal filter cigarettes mainly Marlboro but sometimes I get parliament lights because I like that filter design. I think the reason why they burn so fast is because if you look closely at the cigarette there are little rings all around it and I was told long ago that they were phosphorus so by the time the lit part gets to that ring it burns a little bit more making your cigarette run out without smoking it. A way for tobacco companies to make more money off of us I suppose. Weirdly enough, I have noticed that cigarettes seem to turn off by themselves now. I'm not sure if this has changed recently.
When I was younger and had less money I would smoke those golden virginias, and drum also. You're right when you say you have to really want the cigarette b/c you have to roll each one you smoke and can't just get the instant gratification you get from the normal filter. But I remember that after a while of smoking rolled I just got annoyed with it and would ask a friend for a normal filtered one hehe.
I love smoking from a hookah also every now and then. It's really bizarre because when you inhale it doesn't feel like you're smoking but when you exhale tons of smoke comes out.
Tobacco... I think we should all quit for obvious health reasons, but after a while it becomes a way of life and very hard to let go.
I smoke Marlboros as well and occasionally they'll start to go out. I was told it was a way to help prevent brush fires/wild fires?
next to the upc code you will notice the acronym "FSC" which is "Fire Safety Cigarette" when they first came out i remember everyone asking gas station attendants if they had any "regos left" lol.
i smoke a pipe, i smoke captain black tobbaco. it has the most wonderful smell/taste. its kind of like spiced rum. not much to pipe smoking other than, start with a cheap corncob pipe to find a tobacco you enjoy. then invest in a decent pipe and dont smoke other things out of it, or even different tobaccos. once a pipe has found its tobacco they are paired for life, the pipe will go through a break in period until the tobacco infuses with the pipe. after this the flavors just burst. it is somewhat similar to cigar smoking. do not inhale "obviously", for those noobs who think this is dumb,#1 it will make you sick #2 if you are doing it correctly you will get a nicotine buzz, much stronger than a normal cigarette. #3 you look way more mystical shrouded in a plume of smoke that can not be achieved by inhaling.
if your a lifetime smoker as i intend to be.(i dont want to hear all the health bullshit, i know, i dont care) you should really look into pipe smoking, its a very personal thing that is rewarding to those who like to adventure into new things. one piece of advice dont let anyone tell you off for being pretentious, the plume of smoke around your head already makes that quite obvious.
On March 14 2011 16:11 Misanthrope wrote: lol@disclaimer. Or you could just quit, it's never gone too far. Hate away haters, I smoked for 7 years, since I was 13. Mom smoked while I was in the womb, her and dad smoked around me since I was born. Quit a year ago, no aid at all, just said 'Fuck this.' put the pack down, and walked away.
Same here, but I googled symptoms and whatnot so I somewhat knew what to expect in terms of longevity of withdrawal. Went cold turkey after that, and it was quite easy too be honest.
So I started chewing Nicotine gum before 1v1 ladder games to improve my performance. Nicotine is an effective stimulant, and since I have no tolerance I figured it would help me out.
Can't say that it has. Nicotine gum tastes like shit, and I don't notice any change in mental capacity. So I dunno, maybe Nicotine just isn't my thing...
On March 14 2011 17:43 PraetorianX wrote: Well, I've never smoked tobacco (only cannabis).
So I started chewing Nicotine gum before 1v1 ladder games to improve my performance. Nicotine is an effective stimulant, and since I have no tolerance I figured it would help me out.
Can't say that it has. Nicotine gum tastes like shit, and I don't notice any change in mental capacity. So I dunno, maybe Nicotine just isn't my thing...
I don't know whether to laugh at you, or feel sorry for you.
Are you really saying you took nicotine gum to get a slightly better performance in some ladder matches? You do realise this is a game right?
On March 14 2011 17:43 PraetorianX wrote: Well, I've never smoked tobacco (only cannabis).
So I started chewing Nicotine gum before 1v1 ladder games to improve my performance. Nicotine is an effective stimulant, and since I have no tolerance I figured it would help me out.
Can't say that it has. Nicotine gum tastes like shit, and I don't notice any change in mental capacity. So I dunno, maybe Nicotine just isn't my thing...
I don't know whether to laugh at you, or feel sorry for you.
Are you really saying you took nicotine gum to get a slightly better performance in some ladder matches? You do realise this is a game right?
Which some people take serious enough to travel across the world and compete for thousands of dollars for, and this person might want to be one of them.
I smoke a pipe. I'm a 25 year old student at uni, and I smoke it maybe once or twice a week. Had it for over a year now.
I find it to be much, much more potent than your normal cigarette delivery method of nicotine and it really mellows me right out. There are a vast amount of different types of pipe tobacco out there, but at the moment I'm smoking 'Erinmore Flake' which is a flake cut tobacco. It has been cased with an apricot flavour. Casing loosely is where they blend in a particular flavour (fruit/floral) onto the tobacco at the end of the refinement process. It's not deep enough to affect the taste much but it does give it a smell in the tin. The actual tobacco is a mostly Burley/Virginian blend.
One bowl lasts around an hour and you can let it go out and relight it as you like. The more the tobacco sits around the drier it gets, which usually tastes better but will burn hotter and can give a worse smoke. It's about finding a balance. When you first light fresh pipe tobacco up it's usually a bit damp, takes awhile for it to get going.
There's a whole art-form in packing the tobacco into the pipe properly as well. I have a pipe tool which is a 3 pronged tool which has a tamper, reamer and spoon attached.
I have brought out the pipe at a few house parties and it always gets comments. It's really quite awesome. After smoking pipe tobacco normal cigarette tobacco tastes really artificial.
Hey this reminds me I need to buy a tobacco pouch to carry it around properly in. :D
Edit: Oh I should totally add that you do not inhale pipe tobacco into your lungs (same with cigars). You take a long, slow draw; hold the smoke in your mouth region for a few seconds then exhale it. The nicotine is absorbed through the mucous membranes in your mouth.
On March 14 2011 17:43 PraetorianX wrote: Well, I've never smoked tobacco (only cannabis).
So I started chewing Nicotine gum before 1v1 ladder games to improve my performance. Nicotine is an effective stimulant, and since I have no tolerance I figured it would help me out.
Can't say that it has. Nicotine gum tastes like shit, and I don't notice any change in mental capacity. So I dunno, maybe Nicotine just isn't my thing...
I don't know whether to laugh at you, or feel sorry for you.
Are you really saying you took nicotine gum to get a slightly better performance in some ladder matches? You do realise this is a game right?
Which some people take serious enough to travel across the world and compete for thousands of dollars for, and this person might want to be one of them.
Perhaps you're forgetting what website you're on?
I'm not at all, but it's laughable that you think it's okay to compete on the battle.net ladder, and take nicotine gum as a stimulant. Whatever you say, this guy is willing to take a highly addictive substance on the off chance that it might improve his ladder results, but hey, it's Starcraft, who cares!!
Fair enough if he was playing for thousands of dollars, and took some sort of energy stimulant, I can see the idea behind that.
my GF smokes. She shows no signs of slowing down on her smoking, but whatever it seems like it's common in Korea. Everywhere I go I see Korean women/men smoking so I guess it was just natural for her to eventually pick it up.
Because of her I occasionally smoke. When I do smoke I smoke like menthols, mainly Newport cigarettes. That's only when I'm drunk in a club or something other than that I don't smoke. So I'm not addicted. Woot!!!
On March 14 2011 17:43 PraetorianX wrote: Well, I've never smoked tobacco (only cannabis).
So I started chewing Nicotine gum before 1v1 ladder games to improve my performance. Nicotine is an effective stimulant, and since I have no tolerance I figured it would help me out.
Can't say that it has. Nicotine gum tastes like shit, and I don't notice any change in mental capacity. So I dunno, maybe Nicotine just isn't my thing...
I don't know whether to laugh at you, or feel sorry for you.
Are you really saying you took nicotine gum to get a slightly better performance in some ladder matches? You do realise this is a game right?
Which some people take serious enough to travel across the world and compete for thousands of dollars for, and this person might want to be one of them.
Perhaps you're forgetting what website you're on?
I'm not at all, but it's laughable that you think it's okay to compete on the battle.net ladder, and take nicotine gum as a stimulant. Whatever you say, this guy is willing to take a highly addictive substance on the off chance that it might improve his ladder results, but hey, it's Starcraft, who cares!!
Fair enough if he was playing for thousands of dollars, and took some sort of energy stimulant, I can see the idea behind that.
Then someone could think that like in normal sports, this could be seen has dopping? xD
"As an example to others, and not that I care for moderation myself, it has always been my rule never to smoke when asleep, and never to refrain from smoking when awake." -Mark Twain. I don't smoke cigarettes but I do enjoy spending time with my friend Mary, if you get my drift
I've been a pack a day smoker for the last year. I went from Marlboro Menthol Smoothes to Marlboro Menthol Lights to Parliament Lights back to Marlboro Menthol Lights. My dad has been smoking for 30+ years and has been trying to quit off and on for the last 10. He bought both of us E-cigarettes and I can tell you they are amazing. I haven't smoked a real cigarette in a week and I don't think I'll ever go back.
Bali Shag was my go-to for a bit, though generally for spliffing. I found that I liked Norwegian Shag a bit better though. You might want to check it out.
On March 14 2011 17:43 PraetorianX wrote: Well, I've never smoked tobacco (only cannabis).
So I started chewing Nicotine gum before 1v1 ladder games to improve my performance. Nicotine is an effective stimulant, and since I have no tolerance I figured it would help me out.
Can't say that it has. Nicotine gum tastes like shit, and I don't notice any change in mental capacity. So I dunno, maybe Nicotine just isn't my thing...
I don't know whether to laugh at you, or feel sorry for you.
Are you really saying you took nicotine gum to get a slightly better performance in some ladder matches? You do realise this is a game right?
your such a goofball
@OP
ill just take the second hand toxins from all the airplanes rolling by all day.
iv been smoking for around 3 years, and the thing is that i dont want to qout becouse I enjoy calling up my friends asking them if they want to join me for a cigarette and we meet up and talk and enjoying life.
On March 14 2011 18:51 thopol wrote: Bali Shag was my go-to for a bit, though generally for spliffing. I found that I liked Norwegian Shag a bit better though. You might want to check it out.
I've been smoking the Peter Stokkebye stuff for a while now, tried all 6-7 of them, thinking I enjoy Amsterdam Shag the best because I like a moister rolling tobacco. Great choice, though .
I get 200 cigs for 22 dollars, :D smoke shops are good for something
Also, if u live in america are u NOT tired of all these ppl trying to make the states smoke free... I was in Indianapolis airport and u cant smoke ANYWHERE not even outside... not even 100 feet from the building.... it is AMAZING to me, cuzz I do not LIGHT a cig then go up to ppl that are not smoking and smoke in front of you... just amazing.
On March 14 2011 19:25 SeizeTheDay wrote: I get 200 cigs for 22 dollars, :D smoke shops are good for something
Also, if u live in america are u NOT tired of all these ppl trying to make the states smoke free... I was in Indianapolis airport and u cant smoke ANYWHERE not even outside... not even 100 feet from the building.... it is AMAZING to me, cuzz I do not LIGHT a cig then go up to ppl that are not smoking and smoke in front of you... just amazing.
so true. and the situation is even more ridiculous in Cali where I live. Here there's places where if a police officer saw me smoking a cigarette, I'd put it out and say "i swear it was just a joint officer."
I used to smoke cigarillos, especially those vanilla cigarillo because chick love the smell : I killed some kids with my smoke it seems. I lost the habit, still buying some from time to time.
I also smoked pipe during a period of time, but I stopped because my wife disliked the smell / taste in my mouth.
So I finally started to smoke cigarets, lucky strike to be precise, but I'm a casual (I'm actually smoking those cigaret because my wife told me I was sexy with it).
Usually I'm smoking Lucky Strikes, just because it's easier to grab a quick cloud on the way.
But when I'm at home or discussing some problems with people at the univ, have time to chill out etc. I reach for my sturdy pipe and the tobacco I'm currently testing out (it's expensive as hell but also very good, with a delicate plum taste/aroma).
Anyway, pipe is king if you want to smoke casually or would like to enjoy a leisurely slow evening.
On March 14 2011 16:09 seaofsaturn wrote: The stuff that comes in a box. I don't really prefer them, I've never experienced any with a flavor that didn't taste like chemicals. They burn ridiculously fast for some reason.
try this one
its like smoking a fine cigar but you have to pay about 30$ for one packet. i was trying to quit smoking but then i thought 5 cigarettes per day wont kill me. actually it gives more pleasure when you smoke less.
I smoke nearly a pack a day, and I love smoking. It's probably just me being disillusioned by the additives in tobacco though, but I love taking my 5 minute break from the world. Just sitting down and soothe myself with a cigarette, while not letting a thing in the world bother me.
I used to smoke a lot a few years ago in early high school because everyone was doing it.... Never liked it that much, it's good when you're standing around waiting and have nothing to do but to smoke tobacco regularly.... I was never addicted to it, and I just found no use in smoking.
Weed, on the other hand That's something I smoke all the time every day.
I stopped smoking during the week 3 weeks ago after a bad party which ended with puking till 9AM and having a heavy lung like a 80yo while laying in bed. I felt like dying. Besides I am short on money atm. So now i ration my cigs when i go drinking to something like 8 cigs because not smoking while drunk is impossible for me right now
I like the woodtipped Wine Black n' milds the most. I find that it yields a much smoother smoke than the plastic tipped counterparts while absorbing the flavor within. It's pipe tobacco, and I was taught not to inhale only to bring the smoke into your mouth to enjoy it.
I find it's a very soothing smoke to have when going on a warm nights walk with a friend, or having some 'me' time after a very tiring day at work.
If you smoke it nice and slow like you should smoke pipe tobacco, it will last usually around an hour. For me atleast. The tobacco is already pretty dry when you take it out of the wrapper so if you start puffin' it like a cigarette it will start to run hot and absolutely ruin the flavor. I haven't timed myself or anything, but if I were to guess, I would say I usually take a hit of the Black maybe once or twice every one or two minutes.
Got to take it nice and slow with calm hits and smooth exhales.
Not a regular smoker but I have to say the hookah is the way to do it. And not one of those toy ones that are made of purple plastic. NO! A big one that stands on the floor with 2 massive manly pipes and some hot coal on top.
Cigarettes are just a boring way to die when compared to the mighty hookah!
Not sure how many of you will find this entertaining. I'm reading a biography of Bob Newhart right now, and he mentioned this comedy skit related to Tobacco.
It's about an Englishman on the phone with an American colonist who is trying to tell him about tobacco, and it's uses. Sounds pretty fucking stupid when you list the actual uses of Tobacco.
Not to piss on your parade, but Chuck Norris looks cool, not the cigar in his mouth. It's kind of like saying you'll look like a model if you wear the same brand of underwear as a model. No, you'll still look like you always do.
On March 14 2011 21:53 Chef wrote: Not to piss on your parade, but Chuck Norris looks cool, not the cigar in his mouth. It's kind of like saying you'll look like a model if you wear the same brand of underwear as a model. No, you'll still look like you always do.
I have 2 pipes, one is already seasoned (broken in) and on is about halfway done. I find smoking pipes fun and relaxing. I also smoke the occasional cigar but I probably only smoke once a week in all.
Please if you dont smoke NEVER try it, its not cool and its expensive. As with all addictions it just hard to stop, so its better to never start
with that public service announcement out of the way, i used to smoke like a train everyday.... try to stop but still havent been able to, Indonesia doesnt have a strict smoking restriction in where you can smoke, so i try to restrict myself, only in the toilet and outside the house/buildings, it really does cut down on how much i smoke, but when im out with friends all day i can smoke up to 2 packs a day,
I smoke a handrolled cig everyday after lunch if it's sunny outside. Nothing is more relaxing after going to early morning classes.
I tend to smoke Bali Shag or Drum as that's fairly easy to get around here. My friend from Ann Arbor picked me up some Maison Edwards tobacco and I can say that was one of my best tasting / smoothest smokes I've had in awhile.
My question to all you other smokers out there, why not switch to hand rolled? It's cheaper, you can add filters if you want to AND even if you can't roll with your hands, you can buy one of those little rollers for like a buck. Also you can limit how much tobacco you put in per cigarette, which can really help if you are trying to quit.
There's nothing stopping you really. The initial expense can be quite substantial (depending on the pipe type, tobacco and accessories) but here are some helpful hints for anyone who'd like to start smoking the pipe:
1) Do your research first. Read on pipe smoking before you get into it. It's highly sophisticated process, comparable to the Japanese tea ceremony. Here's some good guide to read first: http://www.notsoboringlife.com/food-and-drink/pipe-smoking/
2) Start by purchasing a cheap pipe (not the cheapest one around, those tend to suck, aim for the bottom-mid, mid-priced one. Good, mid-priced pipes cost around $50) that suits your aesthethic taste and feels good in your hand. Another thing you'll need is some tobacco pipe (here try to aim for a middle-ground in the price too, you could go rushing to get the most expensive one which would then turn out to be distasteful for you.), good idea here would be to find some way of trying out various brands first, perhaps from someone already smoking a pipe. Good beginner's choice: http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend_detail.cfm?ALPHA=O&TID=708 And the last thing, the pipe utility tool (which also serves great as a keychain). 3 in 1 czech tool will do just fine for starters and it costs around $5 along with some pipe cleaners and a lighter (not Zippo-like, you want a butane one) or matches.
Stopping toboaco use was the best thing i ever did i think. I stopped "snus" (swedish snuff?) a few months ago. The best part about it is that when you are at a party or something and actually do smoke a cigarette/snus, its the best thing ever, since its such a rare treat now.
On March 14 2011 16:16 thabanana wrote: If your gonna smoke something and damage your lungs, why not smoke something that actually gives you something back worth while. I won't say what it is but it's pretty obvious.
Still it's better to not smoke at all.
Come to think of it, can you make tobacco brownies?
tobacco has antidepressants in it, which is why it is addictive
although people who get addicted tend to be people who work high stress jobs and depressed people
So I started chewing Nicotine gum before 1v1 ladder games to improve my performance. Nicotine is an effective stimulant, and since I have no tolerance I figured it would help me out.
that's not entirely true
tobacco is a stimulant more because of MAO inhibition, preventing your body from breaking down monoamines such as dopamine and serotonin
Smoking is obviously a bad thing to start.. but I enjoy the relaxation I get from rolling a cigarette and smoking it in the evenings... (honestly I think rolling is half the addiction these days, when I try to quit I feel like I have nothing to do with my fingers all the time!)
I get some serious mocking from my friends because I smoke hand rolled tobacco with menthol filter tips... but I enjoy the taste so /shrug!
On March 14 2011 16:23 Sultan.P wrote: I smoke normal filter cigarettes mainly Marlboro but sometimes I get parliament lights because I like that filter design. I think the reason why they burn so fast is because if you look closely at the cigarette there are little rings all around it and I was told long ago that they were phosphorus so by the time the lit part gets to that ring it burns a little bit more making your cigarette run out without smoking it. A way for tobacco companies to make more money off of us I suppose. Weirdly enough, I have noticed that cigarettes seem to turn off by themselves now. I'm not sure if this has changed recently.
When I was younger and had less money I would smoke those golden virginias, and drum also. You're right when you say you have to really want the cigarette b/c you have to roll each one you smoke and can't just get the instant gratification you get from the normal filter. But I remember that after a while of smoking rolled I just got annoyed with it and would ask a friend for a normal filtered one hehe.
I love smoking from a hookah also every now and then. It's really bizarre because when you inhale it doesn't feel like you're smoking but when you exhale tons of smoke comes out.
Tobacco... I think we should all quit for obvious health reasons, but after a while it becomes a way of life and very hard to let go.
I smoke Marlboros as well and occasionally they'll start to go out. I was told it was a way to help prevent brush fires/wild fires?
Look at the barcode of the pack. It says FSC "Fire Safety Compliance" Some states adopted this law, Texas definitely has. People say it changes the way the cigarette tastes. It probably just tastes all the same.
This thread is funny, esp the OP saying "let's band together (the smokers) and get what we can out of it since life is even shorter now."
Well, life is short, and smoking will on average cut 10-15 years of your life easily. But really - we all die in the end, so just go and do w.e you want, we all die in the end!
It's soon going to be 2 months since that blog, and since then I've successfully gone cold turkey (more or less, I bought a pack of cigarettes in a dark moment, smoked half of one and gave the rest of the pack away after realising how foul it actually tasted.)
It's actually not that hard to "stop"; it requires a little will power but after the initial two weeks of pretty harsh withdrawal you start to realise how great you feel, and this really helps in deterring you from going back. I love how clean and light I feel now all throughout the day, I can't imagine ever going back to the 5-10 a day routine. I now no longer look at someone smoking and associate them with me and my cravings are more nostalgic than chemical.
I've no objection to anyone who enjoys smoking and wants to carry on, but based on the past 2 months of being tar, nicotine and carbon monoxide free I want to emphasise those who are discouraged from quitting because they see it futile to at least "see what it's like" rather than "how long they could last"
I'm a newport 100s guy, although I've been known to smoke senecas or swishers. I love smoking honostly and I really don't even think I could quit if I wanted too.
On March 15 2011 11:55 FireBlast! wrote: Not to derail the thread but I really urge those who want to quit to at least give it a go, even if you plan to smoke again later in life.
It's soon going to be 2 months since that blog, and since then I've successfully gone cold turkey (more or less, I bought a pack of cigarettes in a dark moment, smoked half of one and gave the rest of the pack away after realising how foul it actually tasted.)
It's actually not that hard to "stop"; it requires a little will power but after the initial two weeks of pretty harsh withdrawal you start to realise how great you feel, and this really helps in deterring you from going back. I love how clean and light I feel now all throughout the day, I can't imagine ever going back to the 5-10 a day routine. I now no longer look at someone smoking and associate them with me and my cravings are more nostalgic than chemical.
I've no objection to anyone who enjoys smoking and wants to carry on, but based on the past 2 months of being tar, nicotine and carbon monoxide free I want to emphasise those who are discouraged from quitting because they see it futile to at least "see what it's like" rather than "how long they could last"
i quit cold turkey from a pack a day for a year last month
went two weeks without a cig, then i smoked one and decided i wanted to smoke again... back to a pack a day =/
I should quit again though, my lungs felt great and so did my wallet
I usually smoke when im at a party >.>, I try not to smoke regularly even though it helps with my stress and stuff, but I dont mind have a smoke once in awhile outside from partying,and all my friends smoke, so temptation is there.
Seesha, in a hookah*, isn't ignited, it is just being heated up, never burnt. I'm sure you were aware of that in the OP, just don't want people being confused and such. Over nice post. Moleman aproves
When i was 6 years old my mother caught me and my sister smoking her used cigarette's to which she forced me and my sister to EAT 10 cigarette's each by the 4th one we were both in tears crying (my sister was 7)
Thus i never started smoking.. and i feel sick everytime i smoke a cigarette if im not high on some sorta drug. (but i do smoke joints!!)
Could people who want to post things like, "just quit," or, "it shortens your life span!" just go and make a, "Stop Smoking," thread?
Anyways, I smoke Camels although I've been wanting to get away from them as the fire safe kind has all sorts of plastic and shit in it. Was thinking of rolling my own since it's cheaper and I've heard it tastes better. Hookah is great though and I'll agree with the OP that it really is the best way to smoke tobacco. I'm not too keen on cigars as they're really expensive and honestly not worth it imo.
I do not smoke. Never tried nor attempted. Both my parents smoke so I was exposed to it at an early age. I always tried to convince them to stop. I have lots of friends who smoke but thankfully none of them pressured me take a puff. Most of them have now quit or almost kicked the habit. I will not tell the effects of smoking; you probably know most of them. I will tell though that if anyone here needs help in getting rid of it, I will assist.
There's nothing stopping you really. The initial expense can be quite substantial (depending on the pipe type, tobacco and accessories) but here are some helpful hints for anyone who'd like to start smoking the pipe:
1) Do your research first. Read on pipe smoking before you get into it. It's highly sophisticated process, comparable to the Japanese tea ceremony. Here's some good guide to read first: http://www.notsoboringlife.com/food-and-drink/pipe-smoking/
2) Start by purchasing a cheap pipe (not the cheapest one around, those tend to suck, aim for the bottom-mid, mid-priced one. Good, mid-priced pipes cost around $50) that suits your aesthethic taste and feels good in your hand. Another thing you'll need is some tobacco pipe (here try to aim for a middle-ground in the price too, you could go rushing to get the most expensive one which would then turn out to be distasteful for you.), good idea here would be to find some way of trying out various brands first, perhaps from someone already smoking a pipe. Good beginner's choice: http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend_detail.cfm?ALPHA=O&TID=708 And the last thing, the pipe utility tool (which also serves great as a keychain). 3 in 1 czech tool will do just fine for starters and it costs around $5 along with some pipe cleaners and a lighter (not Zippo-like, you want a butane one) or matches.
That's it for starters. Pipe smoking is more than a habit/hobby, it's a lifestyle.
This is a great post. Really, smoking a pipe can be intimidating at first, but it's a really affordable way to smoke quality tobacco. The initial cost can be rough, but the tobacco and maintenance is quite affordable. There's no better smoke for the money, assuming you don't get locked into a serious pipe collection (and you probably will).
On a side note, I'm bummed that cigars aren't getting more love in this thread. They're way too expensive to smoke regularly, but you can get some pretty good deals online (assuming you can store them).
On March 14 2011 16:16 thabanana wrote: If your gonna smoke something and damage your lungs, why not smoke something that actually gives you something back worth while. I won't say what it is but it's pretty obvious.
Still it's better to not smoke at all.
Come to think of it, can you make tobacco brownies?
tobacco has antidepressants in it, which is why it is addictive
although people who get addicted tend to be people who work high stress jobs and depressed people
False information. Tobacco has nicotine in it, which is why it is addictive. Smoking tobacco acts upon the dopamine receptors, though.
Why are there more anti-tobacco people in this thread than there are smoking. Please make a stop smoking thread like you do with fan clubs and stop hatin'. Haters!
For the sake of the arguments, I used to smoke red marlboros and switched last year to the black ones since they are especially made for children.
I like cigars They are underrated in my opinion and you are unlikely to get lung cancer because you do not inhaled the smoke. However they are kind of expensive, and people often get carried away by the cheaper cigar brands, where the "cigars" are just really big cigarettes.
I really enjoy cigars, because I love the taste of them. Preferably corona-formatted habanos by Cohiba, Romeo Y Julieta, or Montecristo. Sadly they are quite expensive (Romeos sell for around ~10$, Cohibas ~20$ and Montecristos ~15$). I would recommend drinking a glass of good whiskey with them.
In costa rica u get like 10 for 8 dollars USD man its heaven down there a good cigar whiskey attractive women.. who ever said Tobacco wasnt cool
So i roll my cigs too, but i smoke bugler. I started when i was 17 after one of my friends got outta prison. I enjoy rolling them, especially while im driving with my knees on the freeway for some reason
I gotta say though: drinking booze and coffee while smoking and chewing tobacco is a perfect way to make your breath smell like you've been eating a dumpster full of baby shit. Still enjoyable habits America was built off tobacco btw, so dont discriminate.
**edit** can someone PM me about making the pics show up instead of the links?? much appreciated.
Shit, i forgot to mention i smoked a pipe for about 6 months. It always burned to hot and would destroy my taste buds so my mouth would constantly taste undesirable to say the least.
On March 15 2011 16:59 methematics wrote: America was built off tobacco btw, so dont discriminate.
Being born in North Carolina makes you appreciate just how important tobacco has been to not only the country but certain states as well. For a long time all my state had to offer was tobacco and banking, so yeah. Kind of crazy how smoking has become the worst possible thing you could do to a point where I feel like there are some people who would be far more accepting of me if I was an alcoholic pot head who snorted cocaine on occasion than if I was a smoker.
i love hookah... i like to mix ganja with my menthol cigarettes, ( Marlboro) i also like to mix those purple plant's leaves that grow around NA dry them out mix with tobaccoo, finme blend nice buzz added flavor
I quitted smoking, however I got surprised how easy and totally unchallenging it was, so I started again after 2 weeks since I have no problem quitting. I`ll do that when I`m old enough to start worrying about cancer.
I like cigars , usually smoke them while playing poker , but I'm a hookah (or as we call it , argeeleh) guy myself , everyday I gotta have one , hell sometimes I play starcraft 2 and warcraft 3 with the tube in my shirt so I can smoke while using both hands on keyboard and mouse XD
favorite flavors : I like anything mint based , mint-lemon , mint-apple , mint-fruit...etc , cherry , watermelon and surprisingly guava is really good , if you can get some of that you are in luck !
On March 14 2011 16:16 thabanana wrote: If your gonna smoke something and damage your lungs, why not smoke something that actually gives you something back worth while. I won't say what it is but it's pretty obvious.
Still it's better to not smoke at all.
Come to think of it, can you make tobacco brownies?
tobacco has antidepressants in it, which is why it is addictive
although people who get addicted tend to be people who work high stress jobs and depressed people
Yeah my GF picked up smoking when her best friend left her to go to another country without telling her. That was a pretty disturbing reason to pick up smoking, but she always smokes/drinks because she's always depressed *shrugs*
Oh well she says I make her happy. I try to make her slow down on cigarettes, but it's hard for her. She gets mad if I try to smoke! Hypocrite!
Im quitting as we speak. Have been smoking for 10 years and decided i couldnt afford it anymore. Had gone 1 month yesterday, i still use "snus" (scandinavian tobacco you put under your lip) but im gonna quit that too.
Filter cig: Camel Natural Flavor or Prince First Cut. These are additive free cigarettes that tastes and feels much better. If i cant find em i smoke Lucky Strike or Pall Mall red.
Rolling cig: Golden virginia or Lucky Strike (both fine and thick cuts)
I seldom smoke cigars or pipe, but when i do its usually Manne cigars and Capstan pipe tobacco .
Edit i forgot snus: Lucky Strike Strong portion, Skruf strong portion, General Strong Loose, Lucky Strike strong Loose are my fav. I also enjoy a shitload of other brands, but dont usually buy em.
I never smoke hooka anymore, it feels like my lungs were raped probably cuz lung emphysema runs in my family. Thats not the reason i quit tho. The reason i quit is cuz a pack of cig costs like 14.50 USD. A pack of snus costs like 12.50. I go trough one of each every other day, so being a poor student i spent 25-30% of my money on tobacco.
I curse the fucking socialist retards that runs my country every day. I mean there's a law in the making where child services can ENTER INTO YOUR HOME TO MAKE SURE YOU DONT SMOKE IN FRONT OF YOUR CHILDREN. WTF!??!? Stalin and Hitler doesnt have shit on these people.
Edit2: Good initiative from OP. Good thread, and interesting to see a lot of new brands. They all sure look tasty
On March 15 2011 11:37 JesusOurSaviour wrote: Well, life is short, and smoking will on average cut 10-15 years of your life easily. But really - we all die in the end, so just go and do w.e you want, we all die in the end!
Tell that to the lady who lived to 127 and quit smoking 3 years before death (maybe that's what killed her?).
Smoking has nothing to do with it. It's all in the genes (that's also why some people get cancer and some never will).
On March 15 2011 11:37 JesusOurSaviour wrote: Well, life is short, and smoking will on average cut 10-15 years of your life easily. But really - we all die in the end, so just go and do w.e you want, we all die in the end!
Tell that to the lady who lived to 127 and quit smoking 3 years before death (maybe that's what killed her?).
Smoking has nothing to do with it. It's all in the genes (that's also why some people get cancer and some never will).
I'd say smoking has something to do with it, but not precisely 10-15 years of your life will be cut if you smoke. Thats when the genes etc kicks in.
I smoke winfield blue rolling tobacco (with ventii papers, they seem to be the best commonly available here in aus)
But I also enjoy "hookah" although here in Melb at least it's more commonly referred to as shisha... I go to Shisha cafe's, which are basically small cafe-type buildings full of chairs, tables, couches... I go with a few friends every couple weeks. We just sit, chill, talk, sometimes play cards or chess and enjoy the smoke (my favourite so far is probably apple/orange mix, or cherry/cola, or just plain grape... Damn, so many I can't decide ).
I'll probably quit smoking at some point, like if my gf/wife or whatever gets pregnant... But who knows really. It is damn enjoyable.
I've also wanted to try pipe smoking, but don't know where to go to get information about where to buy a pipe, what tobacco to get, etc...
On March 16 2011 01:28 skipgamer wrote: I smoke winfield blue rolling tobacco (with ventii papers, they seem to be the best commonly available here in aus)
But I also enjoy "hookah" although here in Melb at least it's more commonly referred to as shisha... I go to Shisha cafe's, which are basically small cafe-type buildings full of chairs, tables, couches... I go with a few friends every couple weeks. We just sit, chill, talk, sometimes play cards or chess and enjoy the smoke (my favourite so far is probably apple/orange mix, or cherry/cola, or just plain grape... Damn, so many I can't decide ). ..
Fucking smoking laws here in where i live.. No shisha bars allowed here afaik, because you cannot smoke inside anymore except in a specific room where its allowed.
I invite you all to Istanbul for a Nargile (Turkish word for Hookah and Sisha - Bottle) for the fines Nargile and with incredible fun Nargile party ftw
On March 16 2011 01:28 skipgamer wrote: I smoke winfield blue rolling tobacco (with ventii papers, they seem to be the best commonly available here in aus)
But I also enjoy "hookah" although here in Melb at least it's more commonly referred to as shisha... I go to Shisha cafe's, which are basically small cafe-type buildings full of chairs, tables, couches... I go with a few friends every couple weeks. We just sit, chill, talk, sometimes play cards or chess and enjoy the smoke (my favourite so far is probably apple/orange mix, or cherry/cola, or just plain grape... Damn, so many I can't decide ). ..
Fucking smoking laws here in where i live.. No shisha bars allowed here afaik, because you cannot smoke inside anymore except in a specific room where its allowed.
That sucks =\ It's weird, we also have these laws, infact you can't smoke anywhere inside at all at any public place...
But I'm not sure how these shisha cafe's get away with it. I'm guessing the authorities here don't know that shisha is tobacco? because it's not very popular at all really *shrug*
Funny story actually, once we were sitting out the front of the cafe (they have outside chairs and tables too) and some cops walked past, they actually pulled the thing apart expecting/thinking we were smoking marijuana. After the owners explained what it was, they actually tried it and liked it ^_^
On March 15 2011 19:34 Manit0u wrote: Smoking has nothing to do with it. It's all in the genes (that's also why some people get cancer and some never will).
As someone with first hand experience, that statement is completely incorrect.
I am without a shadow of a doubt, the cheapest sonofabitch you will ever meet, and for that reason I smoke Pall Mall and Seneca's almost exclusively xD
On March 16 2011 01:28 skipgamer wrote: I smoke winfield blue rolling tobacco (with ventii papers, they seem to be the best commonly available here in aus)
But I also enjoy "hookah" although here in Melb at least it's more commonly referred to as shisha... I go to Shisha cafe's, which are basically small cafe-type buildings full of chairs, tables, couches... I go with a few friends every couple weeks. We just sit, chill, talk, sometimes play cards or chess and enjoy the smoke (my favourite so far is probably apple/orange mix, or cherry/cola, or just plain grape... Damn, so many I can't decide ). ..
Fucking smoking laws here in where i live.. No shisha bars allowed here afaik, because you cannot smoke inside anymore except in a specific room where its allowed.
That sucks =\ It's weird, we also have these laws, infact you can't smoke anywhere inside at all at any public place...
But I'm not sure how these shisha cafe's get away with it. I'm guessing the authorities here don't know that shisha is tobacco? because it's not very popular at all really *shrug*
Funny story actually, once we were sitting out the front of the cafe (they have outside chairs and tables too) and some cops walked past, they actually pulled the thing apart expecting/thinking we were smoking marijuana. After the owners explained what it was, they actually tried it and liked it ^_^
Or your government/authorities still has a little bit of brain capacity left and understands that its not as 'bad' as real tobacco is. Our government is punch of braindead idiots overall. (not only in this case) But i guess its mostly because of EU anyway. But still, hookah shouldn't be included in this in any way. I don't mind if i need to smoke cigarette outside or in a small room when im at the bar or restaurant.
I've heard similar stories myself. Never happened to me though. Police here might even check self rolled cigarettes because they might be joints..
On March 14 2011 17:43 PraetorianX wrote: Well, I've never smoked tobacco (only cannabis).
So I started chewing Nicotine gum before 1v1 ladder games to improve my performance. Nicotine is an effective stimulant, and since I have no tolerance I figured it would help me out.
Can't say that it has. Nicotine gum tastes like shit, and I don't notice any change in mental capacity. So I dunno, maybe Nicotine just isn't my thing...
You were most likely chewing it wrong, its nasty shiat but you dont chew it like gum so youre less abused by its crap flavor.
I roll my own smokes... I can't smoke regular cigarettes (marlboro, camel), they taste so awful they give me a headache.
That said... the best stuff I've ever had was Amsterdam Shag, but it's so hard to find around here (Charlotte, NC), and when you do it's ridiculously expensive... On occasion I can raid my Dad's stash of Bali Shag... which is like smoking air compared to my usual Bugler or Top.
The Soft Pack Lucky Strikes are great at first but they leave such a heavy after taste on the throat after chaining them down. I usually stick with Marlboro Smooths or Camel Menthol Silvers(Girly I know, but light and mentholy as hell).
But once in awhile I treat myself to one of these bad boys. + Show Spoiler +
I love marbaro reds. I used to smoke djarum blacks, but it was discontinued in the US , now they sell only a generic copy of it which just isnt the same. Ive tried hookah before and imo its like smoking air, while i was smoking it i kept having a craving for a real cigarette.
Ive been smoking about a pack a day (very harsh on my wallet ) for 4 years now and after my first 2 years, i decided to quit. After a month of cold turkey, i decided to light one up because i was in a room and my friends basically created a hotbox of smoke- i just couldnt stop myself. How did you guys quit for so long? I dont understand how you guys can quit so easily ( for those who said it was easy) and how much did you actually smoke?
I smoke pall mall 100s because they are long and burn slow. I smoke like 4 a day unless I am at school. It depends on how much you smoke. if you smoke like 5 a day...im sure you will not lose 15 years of your life. heck, whoever said you lose 15 years of your life is an idiot, a person would only lose 15 years if smoking caused them lung cancer
On March 14 2011 17:43 PraetorianX wrote: Well, I've never smoked tobacco (only cannabis).
So I started chewing Nicotine gum before 1v1 ladder games to improve my performance. Nicotine is an effective stimulant, and since I have no tolerance I figured it would help me out.
Can't say that it has. Nicotine gum tastes like shit, and I don't notice any change in mental capacity. So I dunno, maybe Nicotine just isn't my thing...
I don't know whether to laugh at you, or feel sorry for you.
Are you really saying you took nicotine gum to get a slightly better performance in some ladder matches? You do realise this is a game right?
Which some people take serious enough to travel across the world and compete for thousands of dollars for, and this person might want to be one of them.
Perhaps you're forgetting what website you're on?
I'm not at all, but it's laughable that you think it's okay to compete on the battle.net ladder, and take nicotine gum as a stimulant. Whatever you say, this guy is willing to take a highly addictive substance on the off chance that it might improve his ladder results, but hey, it's Starcraft, who cares!!
Fair enough if he was playing for thousands of dollars, and took some sort of energy stimulant, I can see the idea behind that.
As a medical student, I can assure you that your fear of stimulants is unfounded. Caffeine is another effective stimulant widely used, and comparable to nicotine. As for the addictive properties of nicotine gum - I chewed 30 of the little buggers, and I didn't develop any kind of addiction.
But once again, nicotine really doesn't help my Starcraft flow. Neither does caffeine, for the record.
I like the occasional cigar or pipe, but only rarely. When my dentist can tell that I've smoked once even after 3 months and my girlfriend can taste it.... I don't wnat to smoke very much cuz' I like healthy mouths, not lying to health professionals or getting "ughs"from them, and getting kisses. :3
You really need to take a page out of Tyler's book. Actually just take the book.
I've never smoked a cigarette but hanging out with friends smoking the hookah is just a great time . Also it's legal which is nice, and if you work for somewhere that drug tests what else are you gonna do?
I gotta hookah at home, with some apple tobacco it's one of the smoothest things to enjoy with a beer or two and some mates in front of the TV.
I smoked for 10 years and have recently started to give it up as I'm trying to get fit again, but I still socially smoke with friends at parties and such but don't smoke on my own or in the car anymore.
Gl hf to those that do, I'm not one to judge. Don't listen to the haters
You really need to take a page out of Tyler's book. Actually just take the book.
I've never smoked a cigarette but hanging out with friends smoking the hookah is just a great time . Also it's legal which is nice, and if you work for somewhere that drug tests what else are you gonna do?
This site has a huge minor base.
An addiction to smoking unlike alcohol and cannibus is for a lot of people an unbreakable addiction.
Quiting smoking has been likened to heroin and meth for good reason.
Promoting "tasty" Tobacco products is a great thing to put forth in the world.
I just started smoking recently actually (I just turned 18 about 6 days ago). I really have no desire to smoke cigarettes at all, but since I've turned 18, I've smoked from a hookah 3 times. A lot of my friends do it, and there are a ton of hookah bars here where I live. But i was just curious, is smoking from a hookah addicting like smoking from cigarettes? Also is smoking from a hookah worse for you than other methods? I was just curious because smoking at the hookah bars with my friends have been pretty fun so far
On March 14 2011 17:43 PraetorianX wrote: Well, I've never smoked tobacco (only cannabis).
So I started chewing Nicotine gum before 1v1 ladder games to improve my performance. Nicotine is an effective stimulant, and since I have no tolerance I figured it would help me out.
Can't say that it has. Nicotine gum tastes like shit, and I don't notice any change in mental capacity. So I dunno, maybe Nicotine just isn't my thing...
I don't know whether to laugh at you, or feel sorry for you.
Are you really saying you took nicotine gum to get a slightly better performance in some ladder matches? You do realise this is a game right?
Which some people take serious enough to travel across the world and compete for thousands of dollars for, and this person might want to be one of them.
Perhaps you're forgetting what website you're on?
I'm not at all, but it's laughable that you think it's okay to compete on the battle.net ladder, and take nicotine gum as a stimulant. Whatever you say, this guy is willing to take a highly addictive substance on the off chance that it might improve his ladder results, but hey, it's Starcraft, who cares!!
Fair enough if he was playing for thousands of dollars, and took some sort of energy stimulant, I can see the idea behind that.
I hate to break it to you, but taking nicotine to enjoy a game more is significantly more reasonable than almost every other reason anyone starts to consume it, in any form.
You really need to take a page out of Tyler's book. Actually just take the book.
I've never smoked a cigarette but hanging out with friends smoking the hookah is just a great time . Also it's legal which is nice, and if you work for somewhere that drug tests what else are you gonna do?
This site has a huge minor base.
An addiction to smoking unlike alcohol and cannibus is for a lot of people an unbreakable addiction.
Quiting smoking has been likened to heroin and meth for good reason.
Promoting "tasty" Tobacco products is a great thing to put forth in the world.
Dude, I remember when I was like you, uptight like a water buffalo's ass (waterproof) and never did any drugs.
Then I started doing drugs and suddenly I had a social life, started getting laid more, was much more reasonable about things, related better to people, was infinitely smarter, and enjoyed life.
I stopped doing most drugs and picked up cigs because you can still work and do cigs etc. And bitch, please, don't compare smoking to heroin and meth, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what you are talking about.
You really need to take a page out of Tyler's book. Actually just take the book.
I've never smoked a cigarette but hanging out with friends smoking the hookah is just a great time . Also it's legal which is nice, and if you work for somewhere that drug tests what else are you gonna do?
This site has a huge minor base.
An addiction to smoking unlike alcohol and cannibus is for a lot of people an unbreakable addiction.
Quiting smoking has been likened to heroin and meth for good reason.
Promoting "tasty" Tobacco products is a great thing to put forth in the world.
Dude, I remember when I was like you, uptight like a water buffalo's ass (waterproof) and never did any drugs.
Then I started doing drugs and suddenly I had a social life, started getting laid more, was much more reasonable about things, related better to people, was infinitely smarter, and enjoyed life.
I stopped doing most drugs and picked up cigs because you can still work and do cigs etc. And bitch, please, don't compare smoking to heroin and meth, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what you are talking about.
what drugs were you taking? sounds like it works some serious magic. don't compare to heroin and meth? hmm, well maybe not the same high or the same killing blow, but similar withdrawals, which was exactly what the last poster correctly mentioned. and as someone who lives off doing research on these things, i think i have an idea what i'm talking about.
cool to have a thread like this. i mean smoking is a personal choice and most people are aware of what they get themselves into. but to spread crap like that? lmao.
I'll have a great time while smoking thanks! If you cant stand this thread, please there is thousands of other threads you can go and bitch a bit more.
As zergrussian said it. "don't compare smoking to heroin and meth, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what you are talking about."
On March 16 2011 10:39 ChaoticBlack wrote: I don't smoke because i don't really like it but my friend is a heavy smoker so I sometime have some. My favorite so far is Port Royal
odd, a guy at the servo the other day was telling me these are the way to go too just yeterday. cant wait to give them a try when my current pack of winnies runs out.
On March 16 2011 18:12 Pulimuli wrote: I smoke Cigars occasionally, only cubans though cuz all others usually taste like shit
Most of the Cuban's you're smoking are probably fake, even if they come with real labels from real cigar companies. For example, an obscene number of Romeo y Julieta Cubans are fake, and they come in sealed tubes. Either way, the Cuban cigar industry really started falling apart after the US started a trade embargo in the 1960s. These days, most of the best cigars available are Honduran or Nicaraguan.
On March 16 2011 18:12 Pulimuli wrote: I smoke Cigars occasionally, only cubans though cuz all others usually taste like shit
Most of the Cuban's you're smoking are probably fake, even if they come with real labels from real cigar companies. For example, an obscene number of Romeo y Julieta Cubans are fake, and they come in sealed tubes. Either way, the Cuban cigar industry really started falling apart after the US started a trade embargo in the 1960s. These days, most of the best cigars available are Honduran or Nicaraguan.
I've always been wondering why people praise cubans instead of other cigars? Why are they so different in a good way? I've heard that they have cocaine in them or something, is that true?
I'm completely lost in the Cigar world, so this might be extremely stupid question.
On March 16 2011 18:12 Pulimuli wrote: I smoke Cigars occasionally, only cubans though cuz all others usually taste like shit
Most of the Cuban's you're smoking are probably fake, even if they come with real labels from real cigar companies. For example, an obscene number of Romeo y Julieta Cubans are fake, and they come in sealed tubes. Either way, the Cuban cigar industry really started falling apart after the US started a trade embargo in the 1960s. These days, most of the best cigars available are Honduran or Nicaraguan.
I've always been wondering why people praise cubans instead of other cigars? Why are they so different in a good way? I've heard that they have cocaine in them or something, is that true?
I'm completely lost in the Cigar world, so this might be extremely stupid question.
They're generally valued because Cuba was the main hub for the cigar industry for a really long time. They had the best fields, blenders, rollers, and seeds. After the US trade embargo, people started spreading Cuban seeds around Latin America, creating unique high-quality crops. Major Cuban manufacturers also started new brands in different countries, so they'd be able to sell to the giant American market. Today, some of the best tobacco is grown all around the world.
There's nothing unusual or illicit about Cuban cigars. They've just been hailed as the best for a long time, but even that's been changing lately. They're also still illegal in the US (due to the trade embargo), and that adds to the allure.
On March 16 2011 18:12 Pulimuli wrote: I smoke Cigars occasionally, only cubans though cuz all others usually taste like shit
Most of the Cuban's you're smoking are probably fake, even if they come with real labels from real cigar companies. For example, an obscene number of Romeo y Julieta Cubans are fake, and they come in sealed tubes. Either way, the Cuban cigar industry really started falling apart after the US started a trade embargo in the 1960s. These days, most of the best cigars available are Honduran or Nicaraguan.
I've always been wondering why people praise cubans instead of other cigars? Why are they so different in a good way? I've heard that they have cocaine in them or something, is that true?
I'm completely lost in the Cigar world, so this might be extremely stupid question.
They're generally valued because Cuba was the main hub for the cigar industry for a really long time. They had the best fields, blenders, rollers, and seeds. After the US trade embargo, people started spreading Cuban seeds around Latin America, creating unique high-quality crops. Major Cuban manufacturers also started new brands in different countries, so they'd be able to sell to the giant American market. Today, some of the best tobacco is grown all around the world.
There's nothing unusual or illicit about Cuban cigars. They've just been hailed as the best for a long time, but even that's been changing lately. They're also still illegal in the US (due to the trade embargo), and that adds to the allure.
Aha, okay thanks. So the cocaine/other drug thing is just a myth? Always thought they were illegal in the US and all around the world because of that.. Glad i asked. Now i'm a bit smarter again.
On March 16 2011 18:12 Pulimuli wrote: I smoke Cigars occasionally, only cubans though cuz all others usually taste like shit
Most of the Cuban's you're smoking are probably fake, even if they come with real labels from real cigar companies. For example, an obscene number of Romeo y Julieta Cubans are fake, and they come in sealed tubes. Either way, the Cuban cigar industry really started falling apart after the US started a trade embargo in the 1960s. These days, most of the best cigars available are Honduran or Nicaraguan.
On March 16 2011 18:12 Pulimuli wrote: I smoke Cigars occasionally, only cubans though cuz all others usually taste like shit
Most of the Cuban's you're smoking are probably fake, even if they come with real labels from real cigar companies. For example, an obscene number of Romeo y Julieta Cubans are fake, and they come in sealed tubes. Either way, the Cuban cigar industry really started falling apart after the US started a trade embargo in the 1960s. These days, most of the best cigars available are Honduran or Nicaraguan.
I've always been wondering why people praise cubans instead of other cigars? Why are they so different in a good way? I've heard that they have cocaine in them or something, is that true?
I'm completely lost in the Cigar world, so this might be extremely stupid question.
They're generally valued because Cuba was the main hub for the cigar industry for a really long time. They had the best fields, blenders, rollers, and seeds. After the US trade embargo, people started spreading Cuban seeds around Latin America, creating unique high-quality crops. Major Cuban manufacturers also started new brands in different countries, so they'd be able to sell to the giant American market. Today, some of the best tobacco is grown all around the world.
There's nothing unusual or illicit about Cuban cigars. They've just been hailed as the best for a long time, but even that's been changing lately. They're also still illegal in the US (due to the trade embargo), and that adds to the allure.
Aha, okay thanks. So the cocaine/other drug thing is just a myth? Always thought they were illegal in the US and all around the world because of that.. Glad i asked. Now i'm a bit smarter again.
They're legal in most places. The US just has a strange way of maintaining Cold War policies WAY after they make any difference.
On March 16 2011 19:01 Flaunt wrote: new zealand is going to ban smoking by 2025... just a heads up ._.
That's a shame. Did they pass the law already and are phasing it out over time, or is just a trending idea?
You really need to take a page out of Tyler's book. Actually just take the book.
I've never smoked a cigarette but hanging out with friends smoking the hookah is just a great time . Also it's legal which is nice, and if you work for somewhere that drug tests what else are you gonna do?
This site has a huge minor base.
An addiction to smoking unlike alcohol and cannibus is for a lot of people an unbreakable addiction.
Quiting smoking has been likened to heroin and meth for good reason.
Promoting "tasty" Tobacco products is a great thing to put forth in the world.
Dude, I remember when I was like you, uptight like a water buffalo's ass (waterproof) and never did any drugs.
Then I started doing drugs and suddenly I had a social life, started getting laid more, was much more reasonable about things, related better to people, was infinitely smarter, and enjoyed life.
I stopped doing most drugs and picked up cigs because you can still work and do cigs etc. And bitch, please, don't compare smoking to heroin and meth, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what you are talking about.
what drugs were you taking? sounds like it works some serious magic. don't compare to heroin and meth? hmm, well maybe not the same high or the same killing blow, but similar withdrawals, which was exactly what the last poster correctly mentioned. and as someone who lives off doing research on these things, i think i have an idea what i'm talking about.
cool to have a thread like this. i mean smoking is a personal choice and most people are aware of what they get themselves into. but to spread crap like that? lmao.
Did u just compare heroin and meth Withdrawal to cig Withdrawal.. see I hate when people do this just to try and prove a point... Withdrawals are like standing at the gates of hell and I am being honest, I have gone through withdrawals I am not talking about cigs, i am talking about drugs... I have also gone through cig Withdrawal THEY ARE NOTHING TO COMPARE... don't u get that ppl kill over the fact they are going through Withdrawal from meth and heroin... PLEASE oh GOD do not say DUMB things like this...
What are the best brands available at generic convenience stores? I usually switch between Marlboro lights/Camel filters/Camel lights but I kinda hate them all. I stopped smoking Parliaments because they smell too much and burn too fast. American Spirits don't have much taste. Marlboro 27s are a bit too heavy and also smelly.
I think there are many different ways to smoke and one should not over do one of them ...
my favorites :
A)
Get as many smoke in your mouth as you want and inhale it. Exhale at any given point, for me its 10 seconds or more. This gives you nicotine, but also kills you. (EVERYHING KILLS YOU)
B)
Get as many smoke in your lungs as you want, exhale it through your nose. Gives you a slight taste and nicotine.
C)
Get smoke in your mouth and exhale through your nose. Takes some practice and gives you the full flavor. No tar in your loungs but no nicotine either. Still tastes the best.
And for all of those 3 options, always smoke aware. Dont stand there and dream about the last night with your girlfriend/boyfriend while you smoke. Smoke actively and you get much more our of your cigarette.
You really need to take a page out of Tyler's book. Actually just take the book.
I've never smoked a cigarette but hanging out with friends smoking the hookah is just a great time . Also it's legal which is nice, and if you work for somewhere that drug tests what else are you gonna do?
This site has a huge minor base.
An addiction to smoking unlike alcohol and cannibus is for a lot of people an unbreakable addiction.
Quiting smoking has been likened to heroin and meth for good reason.
Promoting "tasty" Tobacco products is a great thing to put forth in the world.
Dude, I remember when I was like you, uptight like a water buffalo's ass (waterproof) and never did any drugs.
Then I started doing drugs and suddenly I had a social life, started getting laid more, was much more reasonable about things, related better to people, was infinitely smarter, and enjoyed life.
I stopped doing most drugs and picked up cigs because you can still work and do cigs etc. And bitch, please, don't compare smoking to heroin and meth, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what you are talking about.
Bro seriously what the fuck are you talking about.
I smoked a pack a day for 7 years. I have smoked meth, I have done heroin and I have done every other drug other then oxycotton and acid. I have been addicted to almost everything.
I am against a thread on such an important website about such an addictive and easily accessible substance.
So I'm clueless because I refuse to continue to be some large drug companies bitch and I care enough about others to be against anything promoting it in the presence of minors?
You got laid more because you smoke? You must bang some ugly chicks if smelling like trash and having yellow teeth is your best card to play.
You really need to take a page out of Tyler's book. Actually just take the book.
I've never smoked a cigarette but hanging out with friends smoking the hookah is just a great time . Also it's legal which is nice, and if you work for somewhere that drug tests what else are you gonna do?
This site has a huge minor base.
An addiction to smoking unlike alcohol and cannibus is for a lot of people an unbreakable addiction.
Quiting smoking has been likened to heroin and meth for good reason.
Promoting "tasty" Tobacco products is a great thing to put forth in the world.
Dude, I remember when I was like you, uptight like a water buffalo's ass (waterproof) and never did any drugs.
Then I started doing drugs and suddenly I had a social life, started getting laid more, was much more reasonable about things, related better to people, was infinitely smarter, and enjoyed life.
I stopped doing most drugs and picked up cigs because you can still work and do cigs etc. And bitch, please, don't compare smoking to heroin and meth, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what you are talking about.
what drugs were you taking? sounds like it works some serious magic. don't compare to heroin and meth? hmm, well maybe not the same high or the same killing blow, but similar withdrawals, which was exactly what the last poster correctly mentioned. and as someone who lives off doing research on these things, i think i have an idea what i'm talking about.
cool to have a thread like this. i mean smoking is a personal choice and most people are aware of what they get themselves into. but to spread crap like that? lmao.
Did u just compare heroin and meth Withdrawal to cig Withdrawal.. see I hate when people do this just to try and prove a point... Withdrawals are like standing at the gates of hell and I am being honest, I have gone through withdrawals I am not talking about cigs, i am talking about drugs... I have also gone through cig Withdrawal THEY ARE NOTHING TO COMPARE... don't u get that ppl kill over the fact they are going through Withdrawal from meth and heroin... PLEASE oh GOD do not say DUMB things like this...
yes i did. i can back up my facts with scientific data that you probably don't have access to based on my assumption of your character. of course the visible symptoms of withdraw differ between person to person and from drug to drug within these individuals. but the biology of withdrawal in the brain is similar to many degrees, which is exactly what i alluded to. how about you don't go spouting dumb uninformed things based on your own story (that could be made up).
i'm not trolling in here saying this thread shouldn't exist and what not, like i said these are personal choices that are made under the assumption that you know the risks of drug consumption. what's problematic is idiots like this guy trying to get other people to join them with false facts and personal accounts.
You really need to take a page out of Tyler's book. Actually just take the book.
I've never smoked a cigarette but hanging out with friends smoking the hookah is just a great time . Also it's legal which is nice, and if you work for somewhere that drug tests what else are you gonna do?
This site has a huge minor base.
An addiction to smoking unlike alcohol and cannibus is for a lot of people an unbreakable addiction.
Quiting smoking has been likened to heroin and meth for good reason.
Promoting "tasty" Tobacco products is a great thing to put forth in the world.
Dude, I remember when I was like you, uptight like a water buffalo's ass (waterproof) and never did any drugs.
Then I started doing drugs and suddenly I had a social life, started getting laid more, was much more reasonable about things, related better to people, was infinitely smarter, and enjoyed life.
I stopped doing most drugs and picked up cigs because you can still work and do cigs etc. And bitch, please, don't compare smoking to heroin and meth, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what you are talking about.
Bro seriously what the fuck are you talking about.
I smoked a pack a day for 7 years. I have smoked meth, I have done heroin and I have done every other drug other then oxycotton and acid. I have been addicted to almost everything.
I am against a thread on such an important website about such an addictive and easily accessible substance.
So I'm clueless because I refuse to continue to be some large drug companies bitch and I care enough about others to be against anything promoting it in the presence of minors?
You got laid more because you smoke? You must bang some ugly chicks if smelling like trash and having yellow teeth is your best card to play.
You really need to take a page out of Tyler's book. Actually just take the book.
I've never smoked a cigarette but hanging out with friends smoking the hookah is just a great time . Also it's legal which is nice, and if you work for somewhere that drug tests what else are you gonna do?
This site has a huge minor base.
An addiction to smoking unlike alcohol and cannibus is for a lot of people an unbreakable addiction.
Quiting smoking has been likened to heroin and meth for good reason.
Promoting "tasty" Tobacco products is a great thing to put forth in the world.
Dude, I remember when I was like you, uptight like a water buffalo's ass (waterproof) and never did any drugs.
Then I started doing drugs and suddenly I had a social life, started getting laid more, was much more reasonable about things, related better to people, was infinitely smarter, and enjoyed life.
I stopped doing most drugs and picked up cigs because you can still work and do cigs etc. And bitch, please, don't compare smoking to heroin and meth, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what you are talking about.
what drugs were you taking? sounds like it works some serious magic. don't compare to heroin and meth? hmm, well maybe not the same high or the same killing blow, but similar withdrawals, which was exactly what the last poster correctly mentioned. and as someone who lives off doing research on these things, i think i have an idea what i'm talking about.
cool to have a thread like this. i mean smoking is a personal choice and most people are aware of what they get themselves into. but to spread crap like that? lmao.
Did u just compare heroin and meth Withdrawal to cig Withdrawal.. see I hate when people do this just to try and prove a point... Withdrawals are like standing at the gates of hell and I am being honest, I have gone through withdrawals I am not talking about cigs, i am talking about drugs... I have also gone through cig Withdrawal THEY ARE NOTHING TO COMPARE... don't u get that ppl kill over the fact they are going through Withdrawal from meth and heroin... PLEASE oh GOD do not say DUMB things like this...
yes i did. i can back up my facts with scientific data that you probably don't have access to based on my assumption of your character. of course the visible symptoms of withdraw differ between person to person and from drug to drug within these individuals. but the biology of withdrawal in the brain is similar to many degrees, which is exactly what i alluded to. how about you don't go spouting dumb uninformed things based on your own story (that could be made up).
i'm not trolling in here saying this thread shouldn't exist and what not, like i said these are personal choices that are made under the assumption that you know the risks of drug consumption. what's problematic is idiots like this guy trying to get other people to join them with false facts and personal accounts.
Can we please stop flaming? There's a disclaimer on the first page. Most people get beat over the heads with the risks of tobacco smoking throughout their childhoods by parents, television, and in schools. People know there's a risk.
It's interesting that the tobacco thread is one of the only threads on TL where people can come and flame people for enjoying a certain activity. And god forbid they'd like to talk about it with like minded people in a public forum...
If you're concerned about minors, I get it. But this is the internet, if a kid is curious about tobacco, he/she can find out all he wants to know (and most search results will yield overwhelmingly negative information). Why can't you just let us talk about this in peace? Almost every page in this thread has a "Don't smoke" post, or a "You'll never quit" post. We get it.
Now to contribute: The Gurkha Centurian I really like this one. It's a complex blend that keeps you guessing throughout the stick.
Rocky Patel's Edge Maduro This is, hands down, the best cigar for price on the market. It's sweet and creamy with a long finish. They're well made and reliable (and very affordable as cigars go). With a small cut, one of these things will smoke for up to 2 hours.
^ And for some reason they seem to ignore the horrible 'Favorite Gaming Snack' thread when todays society has such a huge problem with obesity, diabetes.
And don't get me started on the favourite chips thread. People are glamorizing extremely dangerous food everywhere on tl.net
On March 17 2011 07:06 Omnipresent wrote: Rocky Patel's Edge Maduro This is, hands down, the best cigar for price on the market. It's sweet and creamy with a long finish. They're well made and reliable (and very affordable as cigars go). With a small cut, one of these things will smoke for up to 2 hours.
These are also one of my favourite cigars, along with The whole Alec Bradley Tempus line is great; the first Tempus I smoked, I ended up smoking to the point that it was burning my fingers. Delicious
Bolivar Belicosos are the best cigars I have smoked. Incredibly creamy and smooth. Too bad they are corrospondingly expensive... I also always feel nervous buying pricy Cuban cigars since I've had some bad experiences with Cuban quality control (plugged cigars mainly).
You really need to take a page out of Tyler's book. Actually just take the book.
I've never smoked a cigarette but hanging out with friends smoking the hookah is just a great time . Also it's legal which is nice, and if you work for somewhere that drug tests what else are you gonna do?
This site has a huge minor base.
An addiction to smoking unlike alcohol and cannibus is for a lot of people an unbreakable addiction.
Quiting smoking has been likened to heroin and meth for good reason.
Promoting "tasty" Tobacco products is a great thing to put forth in the world.
Dude, I remember when I was like you, uptight like a water buffalo's ass (waterproof) and never did any drugs.
Then I started doing drugs and suddenly I had a social life, started getting laid more, was much more reasonable about things, related better to people, was infinitely smarter, and enjoyed life.
I stopped doing most drugs and picked up cigs because you can still work and do cigs etc. And bitch, please, don't compare smoking to heroin and meth, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what you are talking about.
what drugs were you taking? sounds like it works some serious magic. don't compare to heroin and meth? hmm, well maybe not the same high or the same killing blow, but similar withdrawals, which was exactly what the last poster correctly mentioned. and as someone who lives off doing research on these things, i think i have an idea what i'm talking about.
cool to have a thread like this. i mean smoking is a personal choice and most people are aware of what they get themselves into. but to spread crap like that? lmao.
Did u just compare heroin and meth Withdrawal to cig Withdrawal.. see I hate when people do this just to try and prove a point... Withdrawals are like standing at the gates of hell and I am being honest, I have gone through withdrawals I am not talking about cigs, i am talking about drugs... I have also gone through cig Withdrawal THEY ARE NOTHING TO COMPARE... don't u get that ppl kill over the fact they are going through Withdrawal from meth and heroin... PLEASE oh GOD do not say DUMB things like this...
yes i did. i can back up my facts with scientific data that you probably don't have access to based on my assumption of your character. of course the visible symptoms of withdraw differ between person to person and from drug to drug within these individuals. but the biology of withdrawal in the brain is similar to many degrees, which is exactly what i alluded to. how about you don't go spouting dumb uninformed things based on your own story (that could be made up).
i'm not trolling in here saying this thread shouldn't exist and what not, like i said these are personal choices that are made under the assumption that you know the risks of drug consumption. what's problematic is idiots like this guy trying to get other people to join them with false facts and personal accounts.
So your telling me this, in the brain there are similar nerves or sensors going off with withdrawals from cigs and from meth and herion? WELL NO SHIT... addiction in the brain is addiction, and I know I dont want to go into mass detail with this, I know different drugs attack different parts of the brain and in different ways. It doesn't matter. The fact is CIG / METH / SEX / what ever drug. THE PHYSICAL side of it is VERY different... thats the point I am making. I have never been sick for a month from not smoking, I have never had stomach / fever / throwing up / shivers / pain in every part of my body from not smoking. Its funny that people say " well I have access to these facts and that facts" till you have gone through them you have no idea. I am not saying OMG go buy some drugs, worst part of my life. I am just stating the fact is I have gone through both withdrawals and cigs are a walk in the park compared to real withdrawals. Also I work in the medical field, taking care of cancer patients I know what withdrawals are, I have helped many people go through them. You can think im making this up thats fine i dont give a shit wat someone on TL forums thinks of me.
EDIT: this is my last reply on this, we are getting way off topic on what the OP is about... so no more.
You really need to take a page out of Tyler's book. Actually just take the book.
I've never smoked a cigarette but hanging out with friends smoking the hookah is just a great time . Also it's legal which is nice, and if you work for somewhere that drug tests what else are you gonna do?
This site has a huge minor base.
An addiction to smoking unlike alcohol and cannibus is for a lot of people an unbreakable addiction.
Quiting smoking has been likened to heroin and meth for good reason.
Promoting "tasty" Tobacco products is a great thing to put forth in the world.
Dude, I remember when I was like you, uptight like a water buffalo's ass (waterproof) and never did any drugs.
Then I started doing drugs and suddenly I had a social life, started getting laid more, was much more reasonable about things, related better to people, was infinitely smarter, and enjoyed life.
I stopped doing most drugs and picked up cigs because you can still work and do cigs etc. And bitch, please, don't compare smoking to heroin and meth, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what you are talking about.
what drugs were you taking? sounds like it works some serious magic. don't compare to heroin and meth? hmm, well maybe not the same high or the same killing blow, but similar withdrawals, which was exactly what the last poster correctly mentioned. and as someone who lives off doing research on these things, i think i have an idea what i'm talking about.
cool to have a thread like this. i mean smoking is a personal choice and most people are aware of what they get themselves into. but to spread crap like that? lmao.
Did u just compare heroin and meth Withdrawal to cig Withdrawal.. see I hate when people do this just to try and prove a point... Withdrawals are like standing at the gates of hell and I am being honest, I have gone through withdrawals I am not talking about cigs, i am talking about drugs... I have also gone through cig Withdrawal THEY ARE NOTHING TO COMPARE... don't u get that ppl kill over the fact they are going through Withdrawal from meth and heroin... PLEASE oh GOD do not say DUMB things like this...
yes i did. i can back up my facts with scientific data that you probably don't have access to based on my assumption of your character. of course the visible symptoms of withdraw differ between person to person and from drug to drug within these individuals. but the biology of withdrawal in the brain is similar to many degrees, which is exactly what i alluded to. how about you don't go spouting dumb uninformed things based on your own story (that could be made up).
i'm not trolling in here saying this thread shouldn't exist and what not, like i said these are personal choices that are made under the assumption that you know the risks of drug consumption. what's problematic is idiots like this guy trying to get other people to join them with false facts and personal accounts.
EDIT: this is my last reply on this, we are getting way off topic on what the OP is about... so no more.
Should be. Everyone of us should just shut the fuck up already about this.
--------------- If you don't like smoking or you are against it, then you dont/are. Don't come here to post shit about it to those who enjoy it. Everyone here should know that tobacco is killing and addictive stuff, you control your life, you choose what the fuck you are going to do with it.
Now please, lets just stay on the topic instead of getting a good thread locked.
Haven't smoked a cigar before, had plenty of blunts though.
When I do smoke it's almost always socially, but the cigarettes I have tried and prefer would be Camels, specifically Kamel Reds or Camel Turkish Golds if I'm looking for something lighter.
I also enjoy Nat Shermans, but don't smoke them a lot. Bali shag is also great when I have to have a rolled cig.
On March 17 2011 17:06 NeonSky wrote: Haven't smoked a cigar before, had plenty of blunts though.
When I do smoke it's almost always socially, but the cigarettes I have tried and prefer would be Camels, specifically Kamel Reds or Camel Turkish Golds if I'm looking for something lighter.
I also enjoy Nat Shermans, but don't smoke them a lot. Bali shag is also great when I have to have a rolled cig.
Anyone else a fan of the Camels?
Yea.. too bad they only sell the standard camels over here. Been wanting to try some of the other flavours, like turkish gold/royal. They any better?
On March 14 2011 17:43 PraetorianX wrote: Well, I've never smoked tobacco (only cannabis).
So I started chewing Nicotine gum before 1v1 ladder games to improve my performance. Nicotine is an effective stimulant, and since I have no tolerance I figured it would help me out.
Can't say that it has. Nicotine gum tastes like shit, and I don't notice any change in mental capacity. So I dunno, maybe Nicotine just isn't my thing...
I don't know whether to laugh at you, or feel sorry for you.
Are you really saying you took nicotine gum to get a slightly better performance in some ladder matches? You do realise this is a game right?
Which some people take serious enough to travel across the world and compete for thousands of dollars for, and this person might want to be one of them.
Perhaps you're forgetting what website you're on?
which pro gamer chews nicotine gum regularly to improve performance
is it fruitdealer nestea mc mvp boxer july huk whitera idra or jinro
I think I smoked around 10 cigars, and I can appreciate the earthy, woody, creamy flavors that they offer. But I still prefer shisha (hookah). As far as I can tell, it's not nearly as addictive as cigarettes are, but some of the flavors are amazing and some can give you a killer buzz. I (now) almost exclusively smoke Tangiers.
Quick rundown on shisha brands (including only the ones I've smoked enough to know):
Nakhla This is pretty much the cheapest shisha you can find. There are other noname brands that can compete on price, but Nakhla is actually good. It uses an "unwashed" tobacco, so it's got 0.5% nicotine (I think that's by mass). This makes it a pretty strong buzz for the average smoker. The mint and double apple are classic flavors, and Nakhla does them well. Most of the flavors don't have the candy-ish artificial flavors. It's pretty dry, so you won't get huge clouds of smoke, and too much heat will scorch your bowl faster. Made in Egypt, one of the oldest shisha tobacco brands. Possibly the single most popular brand in that region. (~$10 for 250g; ~1 hr/bowl)
Al Fakhir Another brand that's been around for a long time. Al Fakhir uses washed tobacco, meaning that the smoke will be milder and give less of a buzz. (This isn't necessarily a bad thing; sometimes you just want to smoke alone for an hour and not drop dead.) This stuff is juicy as hell, which means clouds and clouds of smoke. It's also a bit more resistant to overheating, but you don't want to do that anyways. Overall the flavors are quite a bit sweeter than you'd expect, especially if you smoked Nakhla or Tangiers before. Girls seem to like this. Also, some of the flavors taste a bit artificial, like the grape. I really quite liked the spearmint gum flavor, though. The cost is a cut higher than Nakhla, but personally I don't quite see that it deserves a higher price point. (~$12 for 250g; ~1hr/bowl)
Starbuzz Possibly the most popular brand in the states. This stuff is somewhat similar to Al Fakhir in that the flavors are overall quite sweet, but the tobacco tends to last a bit longer. They have a huge selection of flavors, something like 100. Most of them aren't really worth it, in my opinion (I've tried about 30 of them). The good ones are pretty good. The ones I don't like are usually because I think they're too sweet and a bit candy-ish. *Shrug* I think it's too expensive for its quality, but others disagree. (~$22 for 250g; ~1.5hr/bowl)
Tangiers I'm not going to pretend otherwise; this is my favorite. Another American-made tobacco, it uses unwashed tobacco. There's nothing on the market that compares to the buzz this one will give you. Smoke it for a month, and you won't feel a buzz from anything else afterwards. The flavors used are synthesized stuff, but they're spot-on. The most artificial tasting flavor is "Green Apple Candy", but the name should tip you off on that one. There are about 15 flavors in the 100 or so lineup I don't particularly like, but even those have their fans. You have to spend some time maintaining this tobacco. You'll have to "acclimate" it, meaning that you'll have to let the stuff out for a few hours so it can reach equilibrium (in terms of humidity) with the air in your room. Otherwise, the flavoring compounds and nicotine will be released at different rates, making it taste pretty nasty. This is because this tobacco uses glycerin as its base, unlike pretty much every other brand which uses water. This gives Tangiers a really nice benefit, though: the bowls will last as long as you care to throw new coals on them. After about 2 hours, the flavor starts fading out but I've heard that some whackos will smoke a bowl for 6+ hours, and I imagine they mean that it's still producing smoke, not necessarily that it still tastes like anything. (~15 for 250g; 2+ hr/bowl)
Yesterday I was given some really fucking expensive cigarettes here in China. One pack was 200 RMB while normal cigarettes are between 5-10 RMB. My friends who smokes them claims that it was like medicine or something. I assume this is bullshit but I wonder if anyone has ever heard of it?
Note: I'm sure it wasn't something else than just common cigarettes (aka weed etc).
On March 20 2011 23:03 borny wrote: Just interested if anyone know about this:
Yesterday I was given some really fucking expensive cigarettes here in China. One pack was 200 RMB while normal cigarettes are between 5-10 RMB. My friends who smokes them claims that it was like medicine or something. I assume this is bullshit but I wonder if anyone has ever heard of it?
Note: I'm sure it wasn't something else than just common cigarettes (aka weed etc).
How did it taste? Similar to weed? How did it look? Kinda hard to figure out if someone just claims it as a medicine. :-)
Anybody try smoking Marlboro Ice Blast? Been in Korea for the last year and I noticed these... Been smoking em ever since... Everyone back in the states say they're just like Camel Crushes but of course Korea doesn't have any of those... Anybody want to let me know how they compare?
Is there any difference between Lights and Full Flavor Cigarettes ? My father is a heavy smoker and I don't really think that switching to lights will improve his shitty health.
In the very least, if you're going to smoke cigarettes start rolling your own. I don't know about other countries, but I do know that it is mandatory in the U.S. for manufacturers to use FSC. (Fire Safe Cigarettes). The chemicals in the papers are more detrimental to your health than tobacco could ever be.
Secondly, smokers are unconstitutionally discriminated against. If smoking is banned in public places, it should be made illegal...period HA! Government would lose too much money in tax on top of tax on top of tax.
Ask yourselves why government hasn't raised the price on pipe tobacco and cigars. It's because that's what the fat cats smoke.
Anyway, if you must smoke, please don't buy already made cigarettes. Obviously, WHO and EPA and SOS could care less about your health.
On March 14 2011 17:43 PraetorianX wrote: Well, I've never smoked tobacco (only cannabis).
So I started chewing Nicotine gum before 1v1 ladder games to improve my performance. Nicotine is an effective stimulant, and since I have no tolerance I figured it would help me out.
Can't say that it has. Nicotine gum tastes like shit, and I don't notice any change in mental capacity. So I dunno, maybe Nicotine just isn't my thing...
I don't know whether to laugh at you, or feel sorry for you.
Are you really saying you took nicotine gum to get a slightly better performance in some ladder matches? You do realise this is a game right?
Which some people take serious enough to travel across the world and compete for thousands of dollars for, and this person might want to be one of them.
Perhaps you're forgetting what website you're on?
which pro gamer chews nicotine gum regularly to improve performance
is it fruitdealer nestea mc mvp boxer july huk whitera idra or jinro
On March 14 2011 16:11 Misanthrope wrote: lol@disclaimer. Or you could just quit, it's never gone too far. Hate away haters, I smoked for 7 years, since I was 13. Mom smoked while I was in the womb, her and dad smoked around me since I was born. Quit a year ago, no aid at all, just said 'Fuck this.' put the pack down, and walked away.
I wish more people were like you.
I had dinner with a old high school friend the other day. He father had a heart attack the week before and was barely holding on. Doctors said it was pretty much entirely do to smoking.
My parents stopped smoking in the past but have always started again. Yesterday we were all sitting down and I asked them if they could stop smoking. I'm 18 now and will be going to university for a while since I want to get a phd in a field of physics so I won't be able to make money for a while. I said I wanted them to stay healthy (not terribly physically active...) so that I can enjoy life with them once I'm done with school. I want them to meet my kids, I to go see the Soccer World Cup with my father which is something we've always dreamed of doing. I want them to see me accomplish something else then good test results so they can be proud of me and know they have been successful parents. I went on.
All they said was that it wasn't so easy.
However, I do want to share my appreciation of cigars. I went to cuba not long ago and brought back some good quality cigars and enjoyed them a lot. I've smoke cigarettes in the past but it's not for me, though I like the action of smoking (turned to occasional joints for that )
I have a half dozen pipes I like to smoke with, I find it very enjoyable to relax with what I have found to be perfect combinations between pipe and tobacco.
If anyone is into smoking pipe tobacco try these; Penzance - excellent cool creamy smoke, delicious subtle undertones. Squadran Leader - nutty taste that makes your mouth water if your thinking about it but not smoking it. Hearth and Home Classic Burley - a hotter smoking tobacco that makes choosing the right pipe very important, but once you do you get a very pleasant mocha/chocolaty taste from this tobacco. This is my daily smoker because it is dirt cheap compared to tinned tobaccos.
Let it be known that there is a difference between smoking cigs and being addicting and smoki g cigars and pipe tobacco if smoked properly. I smoke cigars and pipe tobacco and I'm in no way addicted. I could sto smoking when ever I feel like it. .
That being said, I am excited that I am going to purchase my own pipe this week! Found a some tobacco store near my girlfriends house. :D
Does anyone have a good beginners guide for cigars?? I enjoy them, but it's similar to drinking the first time in that you just kind of try anything without actually appreciating the subtleties of what you're smoking. I just try random stuff and save the rings if I like it. I'm probably smoking the Coors Light of cigars more often than not.
by far the best rolling tobacco on (some) markets is the blue Old Holborn.
By comparison, golden virginia tastes like sandpaper and american spirit like hay. Although if you live in a country where it is not readily available in stores I doubt it's worth the hassle and cost of getting it.
On April 21 2011 02:04 Hawk wrote: Does anyone have a good beginners guide for cigars?? I enjoy them, but it's similar to drinking the first time in that you just kind of try anything without actually appreciating the subtleties of what you're smoking. I just try random stuff and save the rings if I like it. I'm probably smoking the Coors Light of cigars more often than not.
Starting out with cigars can be pretty intimidating. There are some guides out there, but you never really know how good they are. Here are some basics.
Things you need: A cutter – You really need a simple guillotine cutter. One with two blades is better than one with a single blade. You can get a cheap one for around $4, but prices go p dramatically from there ($20 is the most you’d ever need to spend, anything higher is purely for aesthetics). A second cutter – If you decide you like cigars, you’ll eventually want to buy a smaller cutter, wither a plug (or punch) cutter or cross cutter (also called V-cut). Punch cutters are more popular than cross cutters, but it’s all about personal preference. Some cigars simply smoke better with small cuts, and you’ll learn that over time.
Fire – You need matches or a butane lighter. Wick lighters like Zippos are not ideal for cigars. The fluid these lighters never completely combusts, and can settle in the cigar. This will damage the flavor.
A Humidor – If you buy cigars at your local shop and smoke them within a couple days, you don’t need one of these. If you intend to store your cigars for any extended period of time (letting you buy in bulk), you absolutely need a humidor and humidification system. Some humidors are pretty affordable, or may come with an order of cigars you get online. Small humidors are very easy to maintain, and the humidification system if fairly inexpensive. Research before buying.
What to smoke: Before I recommend cigars for you to try, you should know what I’m talking about. A cigar has 3 main components: filler, binder, and wrap. The filler is the bulk of the cigar. In quality cigars, it’s made of whole leaf tobacco (long filler). The binder is a leaf that is wrapped around the filler to hold it together tightly. The wrap is the final leaf that finishes off the cigar. I recommend you unwrap the next cigar you smoke, or rather, what’s left of it when you finish.
The key to starting out on cigars is to try as many different ones as you can. Your local tobacco shop owner will probably have specific recommendations for you, but here’s a rough idea on what to look for:
Hand Rolling – You’ll want to smoke hand rolled cigars pretty much exclusively. There are some decent machine made ones, but 99% are crap (made from sub-par tobacco or leftover scraps).
Variety – When starting out, buy a lot of different cigars. Try everything, from the lightest Connecticut to the blackest maduro. Find what you like. Do you like smooth or spicy cigars? Oily or dryer? Large or small gauge? Try everything. When you find a cigar that you really like, try others from that company, others from that country, and others of that style. There’s a lot of trial and error in starting out. Embrace it.
Cost – Don’t spend less than $3 or more than $6 until you have a feel for what you like. The extra cost will be wasted until you understand what you’re smoking.
Brands to try: Here are some reasonably priced brands that still give you quality cigars.
Rocky Patel’s Edge – Most Rocky Patels are pretty expensive. They make some of the best cigars in the world. The Edge is their most affordable cigar, and happens to be the best cigar per cost available, imo.
Oliva – Oliva consistently makes some of the best cigars on the market for reasonably prices. Every Oliva I’ve ever smoked has been great. They produced the cigar of the year a few years ago, the Serie V, and it’s only about $6.50 (Don’t try this until you’re experienced. It will knock you on your ass.).
Hoyo De Monterrey – This is one of the oldest companies out there. They continue to produce great cigars at reasonable prices. They also have a huge variety to choose from. Every tobacco shop carries at least something from this company.
5 Vegas – These guys have put out a lot of really respectable, really cheap cigars in the past couple years. The 5 Vegas gold is just as good as similar cigars 3 times it’s price (if you’re into Connecticuts). Try anything they make.
Punch – Punch is a Honduran company that produces a relatively small variety of cigars. Everything they make, though, is very good. I know a lot of people who smoke these as their standby cigars, even after years of smoking.
CAO – Frankly, CAO makes cigars that are built for beginners. They’re a little more expensive, but are very accessible to any smoker (in terms of flavors). I especially recommend the COA Brazilia and COA Italia. CAO also makes a lot of flavored cigars, which you should avoid.
House Blends – A lot of companies and websites have their own special blends that they sell. Some are total crap. Some are pretty good. All are affordable. The cigar.com blends are respectable, and very cheap.
That’s about it. If you are looking for more-specific recommendations, want advice on cutting/lighting/smoking, or need to know more about different types of cigars, let me know. You’ll find that cigar smokers are among the nicest people around (next to SC people, of course). If you join a cigar forum and ask for help, you’ll receive it by the bucket.
I pretty much exclusively smoke Hookah. Best shisha I've ever had is Fantasia brand Ace of Spades. It's a chocolate mint flavor. Tastes exactly like chocolate mint ice cream/thin mints. I got my gf into hookah with it.
On April 21 2011 03:26 Mykill wrote: question from a non-smoker.
Do the brands really taste very different? or do you stick to the brand that you started with?
People are generally reluctant to switch brands, however they do taste different and it's more likely for someone to switch to a higher quality brand than a lower quality one.
On April 21 2011 03:26 Mykill wrote: question from a non-smoker.
Do the brands really taste very different? or do you stick to the brand that you started with?
Huge difference. I don't really like smoking anything beyond Golden Virginia and Lucky Strikes, though I can enjoy quite a few brands if I want a fag enough. Then there are a few I won't ever smoke again because I find them fucking horribly disgusting. Pal Mal, Drum and Embassy for example.
It's preference really, there are quite a few who swear by the last three I mentioned. I started with Lambert & Butler but I just kind of stopped liking them. Preference, but there's definitely a difference.
On March 17 2011 07:06 Omnipresent wrote: Rocky Patel's Edge Maduro This is, hands down, the best cigar for price on the market. It's sweet and creamy with a long finish. They're well made and reliable (and very affordable as cigars go). With a small cut, one of these things will smoke for up to 2 hours.
Is this one really that sweet? I've had a few diff RPs but never have smoked a Maduro. Being under the impression that the darker the wrapper the more potent a cigar it is. If it really is sweet and creamy as you say i may need to see if my local spot has them.
On March 17 2011 07:06 Omnipresent wrote: Rocky Patel's Edge Maduro This is, hands down, the best cigar for price on the market. It's sweet and creamy with a long finish. They're well made and reliable (and very affordable as cigars go). With a small cut, one of these things will smoke for up to 2 hours.
Is this one really that sweet? I've had a few diff RPs but never have smoked a Maduro. Being under the impression that the darker the wrapper the more potent a cigar it is. If it really is sweet and creamy as you say i may need to see if my local spot has them.
The whole darker=stronger thing is a pretty common misconception. Maduros (dark cigars) are simply wrapped with leaves that have A) been left on the plant slightly longer and B) been cured for longer. This gives them a different flavor.
If "stronger" has a meaning in the cigar world, it's "body." The Edge is a medium-full body smoke, so it's by no means weak. The smoke does have a distinct sweetness to it.
If you're scared of darker cigars, don't be. My advice is to try them out. You may find you like them a lot. Just remember, there's a lot more to the cigar than just the darkness/lightness of the wrap. Some maduros are sweet and creamy, some have more of a coffee taste, and some are a little peppery. Let go of your fears. Try them all.
On March 17 2011 07:06 Omnipresent wrote: Rocky Patel's Edge Maduro This is, hands down, the best cigar for price on the market. It's sweet and creamy with a long finish. They're well made and reliable (and very affordable as cigars go). With a small cut, one of these things will smoke for up to 2 hours.
Is this one really that sweet? I've had a few diff RPs but never have smoked a Maduro. Being under the impression that the darker the wrapper the more potent a cigar it is. If it really is sweet and creamy as you say i may need to see if my local spot has them.
The whole darker=stronger thing is a pretty common misconception. Maduros (dark cigars) are simply wrapped with leaves that have A) been left on the plant slightly longer and B) been cured for longer. This gives them a different flavor.
If "stronger" has a meaning in the cigar world, it's "body." The Edge is a medium-full body smoke, so it's by no means weak. The smoke does have a distinct sweetness to it.
If you're scared of darker cigars, don't be. My advice is to try them out. You may find you like them a lot. Just remember, there's a lot more to the cigar than just the darkness/lightness of the wrap. Some maduros are sweet and creamy, some have more of a coffee taste, and some are a little peppery. Let go of your fears. Try them all.
I may have to do that. Thank you for your explanation of that sir. Good to know my misconception is a common one.
An addendum to Omni's guide: Punch and Hoyo de Monterrey are both Cuban brands, which are not available in the US. The Punch and Hoyo de Monterrey cigars available in the States are made by companies allowed to use the names because the US government doesn't respect Cuban trademarks. This doesn't necessarily mean they are bad, but just be aware that a Punch bought in the US and a Punch bought anywhere else in the world are completely unrelated cigars (and it is illegal to bring the Cuban ones into the US).
On the topic of Cuban cigars, I would advise that most people, particularly beginners, don't bother paying the premium for them. In the states, most 'Cubans' are counterfeit and outside the states, the real Cubans are... underwhelming. The quality control is pretty bad compared to their Honduran/Nicaraguan/etc. competitors. I have never ran into a plugged Rocky Patel or Alec Bradley (strongly recommend Alec Bradley btw, particularly the Tempus line); however, about 1/4 of the Cubans that I have smoked have had some sort of issue.
On April 22 2011 04:25 Cragus wrote: An addendum to Omni's guide: Punch and Hoyo de Monterrey are both Cuban brands, which are not available in the US. The Punch and Hoyo de Monterrey cigars available in the States are made by companies allowed to use the names because the US government doesn't respect Cuban trademarks. This doesn't necessarily mean they are bad, but just be aware that a Punch bought in the US and a Punch bought anywhere else in the world are completely unrelated cigars (and it is illegal to bring the Cuban ones into the US).
On the topic of Cuban cigars, I would advise that most people, particularly beginners, don't bother paying the premium for them. In the states, most 'Cubans' are counterfeit and outside the states, the real Cubans are... underwhelming. The quality control is pretty bad compared to their Honduran/Nicaraguan/etc. competitors. I have never ran into a plugged Rocky Patel or Alec Bradley (strongly recommend Alec Bradley btw, particularly the Tempus line); however, about 1/4 of the Cubans that I have smoked have had some sort of issue.
The Hoyos and Punches (and Romeo y Julieta and others) we get in the US are actually made from the same companies as the Cuban varieties, they're simply made elsewhere from tobacco grown outside Cuba (I think Punch also put out a pre-embargo blend a few years back, but I'm not sure).
The company is the same. The brand is legit. The location is different.
I agree though, the best cigars available today are made in Honduras and Nicaragua. Some Dominicans are alright, and Carlos Tarano make a few really good ones that use mexican tobacco.
On April 22 2011 04:25 Cragus wrote: An addendum to Omni's guide: Punch and Hoyo de Monterrey are both Cuban brands, which are not available in the US. The Punch and Hoyo de Monterrey cigars available in the States are made by companies allowed to use the names because the US government doesn't respect Cuban trademarks. This doesn't necessarily mean they are bad, but just be aware that a Punch bought in the US and a Punch bought anywhere else in the world are completely unrelated cigars (and it is illegal to bring the Cuban ones into the US).
On the topic of Cuban cigars, I would advise that most people, particularly beginners, don't bother paying the premium for them. In the states, most 'Cubans' are counterfeit and outside the states, the real Cubans are... underwhelming. The quality control is pretty bad compared to their Honduran/Nicaraguan/etc. competitors. I have never ran into a plugged Rocky Patel or Alec Bradley (strongly recommend Alec Bradley btw, particularly the Tempus line); however, about 1/4 of the Cubans that I have smoked have had some sort of issue.
The Hoyos and Punches (and Romeo y Julieta and others) we get in the US are actually made from the same companies as the Cuban varieties, they're simply made elsewhere from tobacco grown outside Cuba (I think Punch also put out a pre-embargo blend a few years back, but I'm not sure).
The company is the same. The brand is legit. The location is different.
I agree though, the best cigars available today are made in Honduras and Nicaragua. Some Dominicans are alright, and Carlos Tarano make a few really good ones that use mexican tobacco.
Cuba's cigar industry is entirely government owned and all the brands are subsidiaries of the main Cubatabaco company, the ones available in America are made by General Cigar Company which is owned by Swedish Match. The companies themselves are different, but in a couple of cases people from the pre-revolution cigar companies did start working at foreign cigar companies. This is the Supreme court case (really attempt at a case) that made this arrangement possible, if you are curious about the specific history. Of course, none of this really matters from a smoker's perspective since both Cubatabaco and General Cigar make good cigars.
I really like your Edge recommendation though - that is my go-to smoke, although i learned my lesson the hard way about not smoking the churchills on an empty stomach... which reminds me, a nifty trick for beginners if they get in that nicotine overdose situation is to eat a bunch of sugar. Not sure how it works, but it really helps the nausea.
On April 22 2011 03:51 seaofsaturn wrote: Omnipresent's cigar guide is so good. I put it in the OP.
Kinda makes me want to have a guide like that for each section.
Thanks.
Cigarettes don't need much of a guide. Buy a pack, put one in your mouth, light, smoke.
I'll do a pipe guide, as they're pretty complicated and quite intimidating.
I'm not sure a Hookah guide is really necessary, but I can do one of those as well if people want one.
Pipe guide, yes!
Yeah the other sections are kinda pointless to have guides for. I can maybe add a few pointers for hookah or something general, as owning one is a bit more of an ordeal than going to a hookah bar.
Buying your Pipe Obviously the first thing you need to do is to buy a pipe. This is where the bulk of your initial investment will go. After you get everything you need, maintaining your pipe and buying tobacco is extremely affordable.
Cost - You should buy your pipe at a tobacco shop, not a grocery or convenience store. You can spend up to several hundred dollars for a pipe, but a good starter pipe will run you somewhere between $30 and $45.
Style – Pick a pipe you like. Hold it in your hand. Make sure it’s comfortable. This will be the pipe you use for a while. Pipes are made from all sorts of materials, but the most common are wood (usually Briar) and Meerschaum. You’ll want a Briar pipe to start, as Meerschaum pipes are usually more expensive and more difficult to maintain.
The Bowl – Choosing a bowl that fits well in your hand is always the most important thing, but there are other points to consider. For your starter pipe, you should pick something with a medium size bowl. You should be able to easily fit your thumb in it (to the first knuckle) with extra room to move around. Anything much larger can be tough to manage. Anything much smaller can clog easily
Stem – Again, comfort is the most important thing here. My only advice is to pick a pipe with a slightly curved stem for your starting pipe. Straight stem pipes are fine, but you might find yourself sucking in resin and moisture through the pipe if you’re not experienced. This taste’s awful.
Pipe Cleaners – Yup, that’s why they’re called pipe cleaners. They aren’t just for arts and crafts.
Fire– Any fire will do. Wood matches work best, since you can really get them close to the tobacco.
What to Smoke There are hundreds of different types of pipe tobacco. Here are some things to look for when starting out.
Cost – You should be spending between $5-$15 for your first bag of tobacco (1oz or 0.5oz). Prices vary between shops. Your best bet is to ask the owner of your local tobacco shop for recommendations on starting tobacco.
Aromatic or Natural – There are many varieties of tobacco, but most fall in either the aromatic or natural category. Aromatics, as the name suggests, have very fragrant smoke. They tend to be slightly flavored like fruit, wine, vanilla, coco, etc. The scent is usually quite nice. You can smoke Aromatics just about anywhere, and no one will bother you. Natural tobaccos taste like tobacco. There’s obviously a good deal of variation. If you like Cigars, you’ll probably like natural tobaccos.
Cut – If you’re starting out, the cut is irrelevant. I’m just mentioning it in case your local tobacco shop is full of serious pipe people. You can figure out which cuts feel best for you, though you’ll probably decide it doesn’t matter.
Variety – Try lots of different tobaccos. Some shops will even let you sample a blend before you buy (just ask). Figure out what you like and stick with it.
How to Smoke This is the tricky part. A lot of pipe smokers have pretty involved rituals, but there are some basic things you need to know.
Packing – Loosely fill your bowl with tobacco. You can use less, but start with full bowls at first. Once it’s full, press down on the tobacco slightly with your thumb. Once you start to feel resistance let go. It’s important not to pack too tightly or too loosely. When you’re starting out, err on the side of loose packing. A tightly packed bowl can be unsmokable.
Lighting – Put the pipe in your mouth and hold the flame over the tobacco. Do not touch the flame to the tobacco itself. Pull slightly on the pipe so the flame is pulled down to the tobacco. The goal is to get the top layer to smolder. If you see fire, you’ve made a mistake.
Tamping – Once lit, take a series of small puffs to keep it going. While puffing, you should use the flat end of your multi tool (the tamper) to press down slightly on the tobacco. Carefully press around the edges. If you press too hard, the pipe may get clogged or simply go out. If done properly, you should be able to look into the bowl and see a glowing ember in the center. This heats the tobacco below it, creating smoke.
Smoking – Don’t inhale. If you have powerful lungs, it wont hurt, but pipe tobacco isn’t meant to be inhaled. Keep the stem angled towards your mouth, with the bowl below. this will help prevent moisture from dripping up the stem and into your mouth. While smoking, you may realize you’re getting less and less smoke. Tamp the tobacco slightly when this happens, and it should revitalize the pipe. You may need to relight until you get the hang of it. The draw should always be smooth, much smoother than you’re used to with cigarettes or cigars. If the draw gets too tight and you have a multitool with a poker, don’t be afraid to push the tobacco around a little. Just loosen it up. Don’t mix the embers/ash with unburned tobacco.
Practice – Really, just practice. Pipe smoking takes effort to master, but it’s a great experience once you can comfortable pack the amount you want, light it, and keep it going easily.
Cleaning Maintaining your pipe is absolutely vital, and takes very little effort. A well maintained pipe is a joy. A poorly maintained pipe is a nightmare. Every time you finish smoking, run a pipe cleaner through the stem of the pipe. You should also bend one in half and gently sweep out the inside of the bowl (being careful not to scratch the carbon buildup on the side). If you notice a lot of moisture in the pipe when you start smoking, or after you finish, you can simply leave a pipe cleaner in the pipe between smokes. This will absorb some.
You want to be sure not to clean the bowl too much. Over time, you should build a layer of black carbon around the inside of your bowl. This is desirable. It seasons the bowl and makes it easier to smoke.
If your pipe comes apart, you should periodically (every month or so) take it apart and clean whatever you can (with pipe cleaners, no water). Make sure it’s intended to come apart. Don’t force it. Many pipes are not meant to be disassembled. If yours is one of these pipes, don’t bother with the extra cleaning.
If anyone wants more information, please let me know and I’ll add it.
I just got done smoking my first pipe tonight! The tobacco store I went to didn't have any English blends though, all they had were aromatics and (From what I read frequently) crappy 'house blends'.
I just bought the aromatic I always hear about. Captain black. I believe I packed it decently but I had to relight it so many times. I believe it was because I didn't do the charring light correctly.
Either way, the tobacco that actually burned tasted good and had a quite pleasing aroma.
WAY smoother then smoking the crappy machine made cigars I used to smoke, even if I wasn't smoking the pipe properly.
On April 23 2011 13:25 UisTehSux wrote: I just got done smoking my first pipe tonight! The tobacco store I went to didn't have any English blends though, all they had were aromatics and (From what I read frequently) crappy 'house blends'.
I just bought the aromatic I always hear about. Captain black. I believe I packed it decently but I had to relight it so many times. I believe it was because I didn't do the charring light correctly.
Either way, the tobacco that actually burned tasted good and had a quite pleasing aroma.
WAY smoother then smoking the crappy machine made cigars I used to smoke, even if I wasn't smoking the pipe properly.
Grats on the first pipe.
Problems keeping a pipe lit are usually do to either A) not packing it properly OR B) not tamping it properly during the smoke. If you pack too loosely, a lot of air can reach the tobacco and it will burn itself out. Failure to tamp properly can create a gap between the burning tobacco and the unburned tobacco This effectively eliminates the fuel source, causing the pipe to burn out. Tamping too hard can cut off oxygen to the tobacco, also causing it to go out.
If you went to a shady shop (who doesn't carry any English blends, seriously?), you may have also purchased dry tobacco. Dry tobacco will burn quickly, and is prone to going out. If the tobacco feels a lot like paper, or otherwise too dry, you have some options.
A) Set it in an air-tight container with either a shot glass of water or a couple slices of fruit. Apples work well, but only if you are alright with the blend tasting fruity. A humidor will also work, but then your cigars will taste like pipe tobacco. Aromatic blends transfer flavors pretty easily.
B) Sprinkle a small amount of water (preferably distilled) in the pouch with the tobacco and mix it around.
Y'know it was probably me packing it too loosely and a combination of not tamping it properly.
About the english blend thing it was rather odd...
It's a legitimate tobacco store that sells a wide range of pipes, cigars, even hookahs. After purchasing my pipe, pipe tool, and pipe cleaners, I asked him about a good not TOTALLY aromatic blend.
Since I've been smoking the machine made cigars for awhile and I enjoyed them for the time being, I wanted a more natural blend, maybe with a little flavor but not exactly aromatic. Maybe some kind of semi-aromatic english blend?
He explained to me that ALL pipe tobacco blends are aromatic and you just had to choose from blends with varying strengths. Even with my very light research on pipe tobaccos (Youtube.. lol) I knew he didn't really know too much about pipe tobacco, maybe he was more of a cigar guy.
The captain black tobacco doesn't seem too dry for the time being so I don't think it was a problem with dryness.
I actually have a questions: After the first smoke I read for how-to's and watched more videos about how to properly light the tobacco and wanted to give it another try. I would say it was about an hour and a half is when I attempted the second time, and promptly afterwards I went on to read that you should give your pipe atleast 12 hours to rest before smoking it again. Do you think I could have messed mine up in any way?
And should I run pipe cleaners through my stem after each smoking session?
Also, I notice that when I'm smoking my pipe I don't see the lit tobacco all the time (The cherry). Is it still burning correctly if I don't see a nice full cherry upon every draw of the pipe?
On April 23 2011 18:02 UisTehSux wrote: I actually have a questions: After the first smoke I read for how-to's and watched more videos about how to properly light the tobacco and wanted to give it another try. I would say it was about an hour and a half is when I attempted the second time, and promptly afterwards I went on to read that you should give your pipe atleast 12 hours to rest before smoking it again. Do you think I could have messed mine up in any way?
No, you're fine. The idea is that you should give you pipe time to rest and dry out a little between smokes. This will help to keep the wood from warping, the seals strong, and to prevent mold. It's mostly for people who smoke pipe multiple times every day. For that, you really need a few pipes.
It's perfectly fine to smoke multiple bowls in rapid succession or with only a couple hours between them, as long as you aren't doing it every day from the same pipe.
And should I run pipe cleaners through my stem after each smoking session?
Yes. Just put one in through the mouth piece. Insert it as far as you can and move it around a bit. This will pull out most of the moisture and resin in the stem.
Depending on your pipe, you may be able to get the pipe cleaner all the way through the stem until it's visible in the bowl, or it may stop half way. If it stops half way, your pipe was likely meant to be taken apart (not every smoke, just from time to time). Some pipes have a little metal piece in them (not sure the technical term, but it looks like a metal tube with a ball on the end) that's designed to cut down on the amount of moisture that comes through the mouth piece and to prevent and moisture buildup from stopping the flow of smoke (sounds like little bubbles). This leads to a more consistent smoke. Pipes like this are usually meant to be taken apart for periodic cleaning.
Remember, always be careful before attempting to disassemble your pipe. It may not be designed to come apart. Don't force it. Also make sure the bowl and stem are both cool before you disassemble it. Taking it apart while the bowl is still warm (and the wood is expanded) can damage the seal. When in doubt, ask someone at your local shop.
Also, I notice that when I'm smoking my pipe I don't see the lit tobacco all the time (The cherry). Is it still burning correctly if I don't see a nice full cherry upon every draw of the pipe?
The cherry should pretty much always be visible while smoking, assuming you look inside the bowl. If your bowl is getting low, the cherry may be covered in ash and difficult to see. Immediately after tamping, the cherry may be slightly dim.
If you think your pipe may be going out, you can give it a series of short puffs.
I also have a quick note on packing. When taking tobacco out of the pouch, make sure it's loose before putting it in the bowl. If you pull a chunk out of the bag and put it in your pipe, it may be too dense to smoke.
Marlboro 27's are by far the most optimal cigarette that I've found to date.
Someone said something about another company being most popular in the States, but I would definitely say that Marlboro is, followed by Pall Mall.
27's aren't a light cigarette, but they are much more "mellow" and less shitty on your throat than a Marlboro Red, which I would say is the cigarette of the nation.
On April 24 2011 01:53 SpaceJam wrote: Marlboro 27's are by far the most optimal cigarette that I've found to date.
Someone said something about another company being most popular in the States, but I would definitely say that Marlboro is, followed by Pall Mall.
27's aren't a light cigarette, but they are much more "mellow" and less shitty on your throat than a Marlboro Red, which I would say is the cigarette of the nation.
In the UK I would say that the most popular Cigarettes are Malboro Gold, also known as Malboro lights. Or Benson and Hedges silver. I know this becuase I work at the checkouts at a supermarket
Nicotine is Poison, actually more poison then black widow venom. If all the Nicotine from 5 cigarettes went streight into your blood stream. You would DIE.
Chemical addiction is very powerful. The reason why people "think" they enjoy tabacco is because nicotine stimulates and connects to dopamine pathways and your brain gains a sense of satisfaction. A highly complicated neurological reaction, in all senses you're brain is being tricked, given false data.
The worst part about common day tabacco is how it has been manipulated by corporations to become a product for profit.
At least canabis remains fairly biologically unaltered. And to be honest, Canabis has massive positive potential. Once again it was removed and made illegal by corporations. Another profit based manipulation of common people's minds.
On May 25 2011 01:35 tdynasty wrote: Smoking is a terrible mistake.
Here's why.
Nicotine is Poison, actually more poison then black widow venom. If all the Nicotine from 5 cigarettes went streight into your blood stream. You would DIE.
Chemical addiction is very powerful. The reason why people "think" they enjoy tabacco is because nicotine stimulates and connects to dopamine pathways and your brain gains a sense of satisfaction. A highly complicated neurological reaction, in all senses you're brain is being tricked, given false data.
The worst part about common day tabacco is how it has been manipulated by corporations to become a product for profit.
At least canabis remains fairly biologically unaltered. And to be honest, Canabis has massive positive potential. Once again it was removed and made illegal by corporations. Another profit based manipulation of common people's minds.
If people are so adamant about anti-smoking then by all means make a stop tobacco smoking thread. When you make these posts in here it's not only pointless, but annoying.
On May 25 2011 01:35 tdynasty wrote: Smoking is a terrible mistake.
Here's why.
Nicotine is Poison, actually more poison then black widow venom. If all the Nicotine from 5 cigarettes went streight into your blood stream. You would DIE.
Chemical addiction is very powerful. The reason why people "think" they enjoy tabacco is because nicotine stimulates and connects to dopamine pathways and your brain gains a sense of satisfaction. A highly complicated neurological reaction, in all senses you're brain is being tricked, given false data.
The worst part about common day tabacco is how it has been manipulated by corporations to become a product for profit.
At least canabis remains fairly biologically unaltered. And to be honest, Canabis has massive positive potential. Once again it was removed and made illegal by corporations. Another profit based manipulation of common people's minds.
Thanks for telling us the obvious, jerk.
People really care what you think about smoking in the Tobacco smoking thread.
On May 25 2011 01:35 tdynasty wrote: Smoking is a terrible mistake.
Here's why.
Nicotine is Poison, actually more poison then black widow venom. If all the Nicotine from 5 cigarettes went streight into your blood stream. You would DIE.
Chemical addiction is very powerful. The reason why people "think" they enjoy tabacco is because nicotine stimulates and connects to dopamine pathways and your brain gains a sense of satisfaction. A highly complicated neurological reaction, in all senses you're brain is being tricked, given false data.
The worst part about common day tabacco is how it has been manipulated by corporations to become a product for profit.
At least canabis remains fairly biologically unaltered. And to be honest, Canabis has massive positive potential. Once again it was removed and made illegal by corporations. Another profit based manipulation of common people's minds.
I agree with you that the chronic is awesome, other than that get out of here troll, go whine in the anti-tobacco thread or something where people will actually care.
I used to be a cigarette smoker myself, smoked Marlboro Reds for 5 years but I have been 1 year and 1 month quit and counting!
Right now I have a very nice Cigar collection in my humidor which currently consists of:
They are so good and relaxing after a long day, combined with a glass of fine rum or whisky and its just heavenly. Throw in some friends and Poker and then its a great evening!
Ill post some pictures of my humidor later if you guys are interested.
I used to smoke cigarettes and, still on occasion, smoke cigars. But I bought a pipe about 2 weeks ago and have been trying different tobaccos and I must say: I love it more than anything. The best thing about smoking from a pipe, is that the lingering smoke smell isn't as strong as opposed to smoking a cigarette or a cigar. My hands don't smell of smoke, and my clothes and breath don't smell as bad from the smoke either.
The time you spend packing your pipe, cleaning it, and sitting down an enjoying it is way better as well. It actually takes some time to smoke instead of just sucking it back.
On May 25 2011 00:54 Ganjamaster wrote: Marlboro Reds are the only serious end game cigarettes, every smoker just drifts towards them like flies to the light.
I have never liked Marlboro Reds, usually I go with either Unfiltered Lucky Strikes, unfiltered Camels or Camel Filters. I used to smoke Parliament Full Flavors when I was a coke addict for obvious reasons but they are too expensive now.
"The public health authorities never mention the main reason many Americans have for smoking heavily, which is that smoking is a fairly sure, fairly honorable form of suicide." ~Kurt Vonnegut
Love the post and everything in it besides the notion that it's too late for you to stop smoking. You may not want to, but it is not impossible! And it's not healthy to go around telling folks that it is impossible to quit x ( My dad started smoking cigarettes two years before I was born, and has pretty much been trying to quit since the day he got hooked... Failed literally hundreds of times, and this year he has finally quit cold turkey, and i havent seen him with a cigarette since! ALSO -- my korean friend's father had been smoking for THRITY PLUS YEARS and finally quit recently. Both of them say they feel 100% better now that they've put it behind them.
I have smoked hookah for about 3 years now and I never get cravings (that i cant manage at least) and it's great for parties (not to mention all the girls i know LOVE hookah) (hint hint) Long story short I hope that if any of you smoke enough cigarettes per day to pose the serious health risks, that you at least make an attempt to stop. If not for health reasons, just for the sheer cost per pack -- and pick up a hookah if you need something to ween with!
On May 25 2011 06:32 RBKeys wrote: I used to smoke cigarettes and, still on occasion, smoke cigars. But I bought a pipe about 2 weeks ago and have been trying different tobaccos and I must say: I love it more than anything. The best thing about smoking from a pipe, is that the lingering smoke smell isn't as strong as opposed to smoking a cigarette or a cigar. My hands don't smell of smoke, and my clothes and breath don't smell as bad from the smoke either.
The time you spend packing your pipe, cleaning it, and sitting down an enjoying it is way better as well. It actually takes some time to smoke instead of just sucking it back.
As much as I love cigars, there really is something special about a pipe. Take as much or as little as you like. Smoke it as quickly or slowly as you like. There's also something really nice about maintaining your pipe. If you do it properly, you know your pipe is better than it was 6 months ago.
On May 25 2011 06:45 Moldwood wrote: Love the post and everything in it besides the notion that it's too late for you to stop smoking. You may not want to, but it is not impossible! And it's not healthy to go around telling folks that it is impossible to quit x ( My dad started smoking cigarettes two years before I was born, and has pretty much been trying to quit since the day he got hooked... Failed literally hundreds of times, and this year he has finally quit cold turkey, and i havent seen him with a cigarette since! ALSO -- my korean friend's father had been smoking for THRITY PLUS YEARS and finally quit recently. Both of them say they feel 100% better now that they've put it behind them.
Wait, you mean you think people should quit smoking? I've never heard anything like that before. Tell me again about the health risks. What's that all about? Are you sure? I thought tobacco was good for you...
Really though, we know. If by some freak chance we didn't know, people have taken time to tell us on every page of this thread.
I turned 18 about just over a week ago Yesterday I bought a small packet of Montecristo minis They are really quite tasty Im not going to buy the big cigars for a while yet because they are expensive and I dont have the time Also my parents are very anti smoking so yeaaaa I dont think that I could ever smoke cigarettes because they taste so artifical and you can taste the chemicals in them Cigars are just pure tobacco and that is why I would recommend them.
On June 19 2011 15:55 Dcamp0308 wrote: This is a big bump but, does anyone know of any good places to buy tobacco pipes.
I have a tobacco shop called TinderBox in my area that is great for great pipes and pipe tobacco. Apparently it's a pretty well known business you should search for them in your area.
I bought a Savinelli Tevere 111ks pipe there and I highly recommend it.
On June 19 2011 15:55 Dcamp0308 wrote: This is a big bump but, does anyone know of any good places to buy tobacco pipes.
Head shops?
Definitely not head shops.
Just do some google searches for tobacco shops in your area. Check the website or call to find out if they sell pipes. If you want to know what kind of pipe to buy, check the guide in the OP (shameless plug).
"Quiting smokin is easy, ive done it hundreds of times." Oscar Wilde Anywho cool thread, I would like to smoke a pipe or cigars but im a poor college student, one day.
I don't know how widespread these places are, but at least in Denver there's a shop that lets you make your own custom blend cigarettes for $23/carton. Because you're technically the one producing them (you push the red button that makes the machine work), it bypasses most of the taxes on cigs, saves a ton of money, and gives you a personal blend. Pretty awesome.
It is possibly the most underrated form of smoking. It's image may conjure up relations to hash and stoners, but I assure you it is smoking in its most innocent form. It's tobacco mixed with sweet fruit flavors and molasses, ignited by hot coals, and as the smoke is pulled through it is filtered and cooled by a bowl of water. The best description for it is "candy air". If you smoke anything at all you should smoke this. My favorite flavors are Cherry, or a Raspberry-Rose blend. Apple is also quite popular. It's a pain to clean, but it's worth it to indulge on occasion, and if you're lucky you can find a place near you where they serve them. It lasts for hours and it's one of my preferred methods of social gathering.
"Many young adults are misled by the sweet, aromatic and fruity quality of hookah smoke, which causes them to believe it is less harmful than hot, acrid cigarette smoke. In fact, because a typical hookah session can last up to an hour, with smokers typically taking long, deep breaths, the smoke inhaled can equal 100 cigarettes or more, according to a 2005 study by the World Health Organization."
" An additional hazard: the tobacco in hookahs is heated with charcoal, leading to dangerously high levels of carbon monoxide, even for people who spend time in hookah bars without actually smoking"
On June 20 2011 06:53 contraSol wrote: I don't know how widespread these places are, but at least in Denver there's a shop that lets you make your own custom blend cigarettes for $23/carton. Because you're technically the one producing them (you push the red button that makes the machine work), it bypasses most of the taxes on cigs, saves a ton of money, and gives you a personal blend. Pretty awesome.
That sounds effing amazing! been rolling my own with some good ol fashion drum tobacco.
It is possibly the most underrated form of smoking. It's image may conjure up relations to hash and stoners, but I assure you it is smoking in its most innocent form. It's tobacco mixed with sweet fruit flavors and molasses, ignited by hot coals, and as the smoke is pulled through it is filtered and cooled by a bowl of water. The best description for it is "candy air". If you smoke anything at all you should smoke this. My favorite flavors are Cherry, or a Raspberry-Rose blend. Apple is also quite popular. It's a pain to clean, but it's worth it to indulge on occasion, and if you're lucky you can find a place near you where they serve them. It lasts for hours and it's one of my preferred methods of social gathering.
"Many young adults are misled by the sweet, aromatic and fruity quality of hookah smoke, which causes them to believe it is less harmful than hot, acrid cigarette smoke. In fact, because a typical hookah session can last up to an hour, with smokers typically taking long, deep breaths, the smoke inhaled can equal 100 cigarettes or more, according to a 2005 study by the World Health Organization."
" An additional hazard: the tobacco in hookahs is heated with charcoal, leading to dangerously high levels of carbon monoxide, even for people who spend time in hookah bars without actually smoking"
.... One of my friends straight up told me it wasn't harmful.. I feel so violated now, never again hookah!
The worst part of not smoking is the gigantic amount of smoke I inhale anyways.
I get that smokers don't care that they are willfully inhaling several carcinogens, and chemicals that make the body respond by producing CarcinoEmbryonic Antigen (CEA), but I do, and that's why I don't smoke. So why do I have to be completely surrounded by people blowing smoke in my face pretty much everywhere I go?
It's like smokers formed a pact, with the purpose of fogging up the air immediately surrounding me. I'll never understand why some people can be so rude, especially when a person's health is being compromised.
So if we could all remember some basic kindness, and not blow smoke in Chargelot's face whenever he does manage to make a public appearence at a SC2 event, I would really appreciate it.
On March 14 2011 16:11 Misanthrope wrote: lol@disclaimer. Or you could just quit, it's never gone too far. Hate away haters, I smoked for 7 years, since I was 13. Mom smoked while I was in the womb, her and dad smoked around me since I was born. Quit a year ago, no aid at all, just said 'Fuck this.' put the pack down, and walked away.
I smoke a pipe. My fisrt pipe was a gift from a friend, a striaght stemmed briar pipe with a medium bowl. Ive since gotten a curved stem briar one ($22) with a deep bowl but since the stem has a very narrow tube it gets very ressy. i also had a small meershaum one that i liked a lot but it broke. I intend to purchase another straight stemmed pipe at school for around forty bucks.
I started with flavors like cherry and a few of the blends at my local smoke shops and have settled on vanilla. I dont have much experience with natural tabacco flavors, but i've also only been smoking a pipe for around nine months. I've never spent more than $5.30 an oz on tobacco (my usual blend is $3.78), making it much cheaper than cigarettes.
I differ from the vast majority of pipe smokers in that i inhale the smoke a certain amount. Its not like a cigarette where you can draw it in straight but if you fill your mouth or inhale through the nose a lot at the same time you can get a massive amount of nicotine.
One thing i love most about smoking a pipe is the comments. Whenever someone young smokes a pipe people always comment on how cool it is or, with aromatic scents, how nice you smell.
On June 20 2011 07:21 Chargelot wrote: The worst part of not smoking is the gigantic amount of smoke I inhale anyways.
I get that smokers don't care that they are willfully inhaling several carcinogens, and chemicals that make the body respond by producing CarcinoEmbryonic Antigen (CEA), but I do, and that's why I don't smoke. So why do I have to be completely surrounded by people blowing smoke in my face pretty much everywhere I go?
It's like smokers formed a pact, with the purpose of fogging up the air immediately surrounding me. I'll never understand why some people can be so rude, especially when a person's health is being compromised.
So if we could all remember some basic kindness, and not blow smoke in Chargelot's face whenever he does manage to make a public appearence at a SC2 event, I would really appreciate it.
(Not personally attacking anyone, just saying, remember your non-smoking counterpart!)
Dear Non-smoking Counterpart,
We can no longer smoke in bars or restaurants. In the USA at least, there are few to no buildings you can actually smoke inside these days. That leaves the outdoors, which is great for you, since your risk of getting cancer from second-hand smoke outside, unless you purposefully position yourself in the center of a group of smokers for prolonged periods over your lifetime, is miniscule. Our apologies if you don't like the smell, but you don't hear anyone clamoring for the removal of busy streets and cars, so maybe just keep your slight discomfort to yourself and get over it. If people are actually blowing smoke directly into your face, don't blame tobacco: they're douchebags. However, it seems to me that a more likely explanation is a mixture of hyperbole and the world-view that you somehow figure into the decision-making processes of complete strangers. We hope you enjoy the multitude of other threads on this forum, but this one is for the second-class citizens also known as tobacco smokers.
I smoke regular cigarettes and my favorite brand is "Kent Blue".
I believe it's the best cigarette you can find in Europe and adheres perfectly to my taste. It is slightly stronger than average and has a distinct "full flavor". It handles tough and seems more dense than the all-time classic Marlboro Lights. It feels especially good in the winter but can get a bit dry in the summer. I know that's true for all cigarettes, but this one, I found to be the most tolerant to "seasonal" smoking.
Drinks, I absolutely recommend it with: Coffee, Bourbon. Why? Strong aroma drinks with unique tastes complement the "full flavor" very well. Don't put too much sugar in your coffee and try it out with Jim Beam or Jack Daniels.
Price is as much as Marlboro pretty much everywhere in Europe, e.g. between 4 and 5 EUR in Western Europe and around 2-3 EUR in Eastern. For the frequent travelers, I can confirm that it is widely available in continental Europe.
If you live in the EU and want to change your cigarette brand I strongly recommend this brand in particular. You won't be disappointed!
Disclaimer: Although I'm a communication graduate, this was NOT a sponsored post, simply my humble opinion
On June 20 2011 07:21 Chargelot wrote: The worst part of not smoking is the gigantic amount of smoke I inhale anyways.
I get that smokers don't care that they are willfully inhaling several carcinogens, and chemicals that make the body respond by producing CarcinoEmbryonic Antigen (CEA), but I do, and that's why I don't smoke. So why do I have to be completely surrounded by people blowing smoke in my face pretty much everywhere I go?
It's like smokers formed a pact, with the purpose of fogging up the air immediately surrounding me. I'll never understand why some people can be so rude, especially when a person's health is being compromised.
So if we could all remember some basic kindness, and not blow smoke in Chargelot's face whenever he does manage to make a public appearence at a SC2 event, I would really appreciate it.
(Not personally attacking anyone, just saying, remember your non-smoking counterpart!)
Dear Non-smoking Counterpart,
We can no longer smoke in bars or restaurants. In the USA at least, there are few to no buildings you can actually smoke inside these days. That leaves the outdoors, which is great for you, since your risk of getting cancer from second-hand smoke outside, unless you purposefully position yourself in the center of a group of smokers for prolonged periods over your lifetime, is miniscule. Our apologies if you don't like the smell, but you don't hear anyone clamoring for the removal of busy streets and cars, so maybe just keep your slight discomfort to yourself and get over it. If people are actually blowing smoke directly into your face, don't blame tobacco: they're douchebags. However, it seems to me that a more likely explanation is a mixture of hyperbole and the world-view that you somehow figure into the decision-making processes of complete strangers. We hope you enjoy the multitude of other threads on this forum, but this one is for the second-class citizens also known as tobacco smokers.
Regards, Smokers
You forgot to mention that we pay more taxes on cigarettes than income. Try to think of the children when you walk by a smoker and are discomforted for a few moments.
I smoke a pack of camel filters a day and god damn if it doesn't make me a happier person. Dying? Yes. Happy? Also yes.
I love hookas. Best brand of tobacco for that is starbuzz, try it out! A few tips while preparing a water pipe: -Don't fill the bowl too much, the tobacco mustn't reach the top. -Make very small holes on the aluminum. -Put the coal on the side of the bowl, not in the center.
+1 more to Straught's advice. Also, I would add that spending a little bit extra on your hookah supplies really makes a difference. Good shisha (starbuzz and JMs are my favorites) and high-quality coals (the natural kind have superior quality, at the expense of the convenience of quick-light coals) are a must.
I've heard some interesting theories about aluminum foil (shiny side down vs. up) and increased carcinogens vs. hotter temperatures, does anyone know if they have merit?
Smoked my first "Real" cigar last week or so, it was nice! My parents hated the smell of the smoke though, said it smelled like horse shit compared the my pipe tobaccos, lol.
Damn these things last forever. :o .
I now understand why people tell me Cigar smoking is a really social thing, smoking this one alone for almost two hours made me feel so lonely. T.T
Surprise that I didn't notice this thread earlier. I've trying to quit for sometime now but just can't do it. I smoke 1 pack a day of regular cigarrettes, preferable Marlboro White or something equivalent. Smoking goes will with coffee, its amazing feeling when you wake up, light your cigarrete drink your coffee at the same time, its the best time in the day for me :D
On June 21 2011 13:50 UisTehSux wrote: Smoked my first "Real" cigar last week or so, it was nice! My parents hated the smell of the smoke though, said it smelled like horse shit compared the my pipe tobaccos, lol.
Damn these things last forever. :o .
I now understand why people tell me Cigar smoking is a really social thing, smoking this one alone for almost two hours made me feel so lonely. T.T
La Gloria Cubana. :D
One of my first cigars was a La Gloria Cubana Serie R Maduro. They make great cigars.
If you want to smoke cigars but don't want to commit to a few hours, there's nothing wrong with getting a robusto that you can smoke in 45 min to an hour if you want. It's currently the most popular size for most brands.
Alternatively, Oliva came out with a line called "Nub" a couple years ago. They're only a few inches. I've only had one, but they get great reviews.
On June 21 2011 14:51 FearTheReaperMan wrote: Anyone ever smoke mowl bowls? Thats what we call them at least. Its weed and tobacco out of a bong, It gives u a head rush like no other.
They are the best with camels or american sprit. Imo
Any tinker smoker from down under knows what those are :p
Good way of saving abit of weed specially if your a ciggarette smoker and dont mind the little extra tobbaco in your chop though if I had decent amount of $$ id probably never spin my weed, having a ciggy after a good chop is a bliss
Dont feel I'm old enough to really smoke cigars or pipes (26) time and place for everything
On June 21 2011 14:51 FearTheReaperMan wrote: Anyone ever smoke mowl bowls? Thats what we call them at least. Its weed and tobacco out of a bong, It gives u a head rush like no other.
They are the best with camels or american sprit. Imo
Any tinker smoker from down under knows what those are :p
Good way of saving abit of weed specially if your a ciggarette smoker and dont mind the little extra tobbaco in your chop though if I had decent amount of $$ id probably never spin my weed, having a ciggy after a good chop is a bliss
Dont feel I'm old enough to really smoke cigars or pipes (26) time and place for everything
<3 Jucies
I'm 18 and I smoke a pipe and cigars. As long as you are legal it's fine. :D
On June 21 2011 14:39 Caphe wrote: Surprise that I didn't notice this thread earlier. I've trying to quit for sometime now but just can't do it. I smoke 1 pack a day of regular cigarrettes, preferable Marlboro White or something equivalent. Smoking goes will with coffee, its amazing feeling when you wake up, light your cigarrete drink your coffee at the same time, its the best time in the day for me :D
Theres nothing better than waking up when the sun is rising and drinking coffee and smoking a cigarette. God i miss that. (Yes, i wake up middle of the day all the time)
The nine graphic images that will be mandatory on all cigarette packages now. Thoughts/feelings?
As a non-smoker, I like the shock-based encouragement for people to quit/not start. As a capitalist, I find government control imposed on a product to be bad. So I'm in the middle here.
The nine graphic images that will be mandatory on all cigarette packages now. Thoughts/feelings?
As a non-smoker, I like the shock-based encouragement for people to quit/not start. As a capitalist, I find government control imposed on a product to be bad. So I'm in the middle here.
if it steers young people away from making unbelievably stupid decisions, it's good
The nine graphic images that will be mandatory on all cigarette packages now. Thoughts/feelings?
As a non-smoker, I like the shock-based encouragement for people to quit/not start. As a capitalist, I find government control imposed on a product to be bad. So I'm in the middle here.
Coming soon to America!
I'm not going to quit smoking no matter what you call them or label them. If someone impossibly didn't know cigarettes are terrible for you kk good but I'll just laugh and light up.
Note: The humidor is currently stacked to the brim and thus the order is not the best. A few Robustos have their outer leaf cracked. They are from an earlier batch which I brought back from my stay in the States, the TSA was not kind to them. I took the vitolas off and passed them as dominican, but they still did not treat them right. I also dont think being thrown around in the luggage helped either. But there was not realy any other way and they survived well enough. Im going to smoke them earlier, thus they are on the top layer.
Note: The humidor is currently stacked to the brim and thus the order is not the best. A few Robustos have their outer leaf cracked. They are from an earlier batch which I brought back from my stay in the States, the TSA was not kind to them. I took the vitolas off and passed them as dominican, but they still did not treat them right. I also dont think being thrown around in the luggage helped either. But there was not realy any other way and they survived well enough. Im going to smoke them earlier, thus they are on the top layer.
Comments, recommendations?
Excellent humidor! :D
I'm going to be hanging out with a good friend tonight that I haven't seen since junior year of highschool. We plan on taking a trip to the local cigar shop and picking up some. My treat.
I am a smokoholic. I don't care what the brand is.. just be cheap. I smoke tailors and rollies, but mostly rollies cause they are the cheapest. Also rollies do taste better.
I've tried snuz wasn't a fan.
I've tried cigars, Was told you aren't suppose to inhale it, just bumpuff it.. Seems pointless. Instinctive reaction is to inhale. Not a fan.
Shisha is awesome, but I don't understand how to operate the damn pipe with the coals and everything.
Not a fan of any other drug. Even alcohol is meh.. But smoking that bitch has my heart.
Shisha is awesome, but I don't understand how to operate the damn pipe with the coals and everything.
What you mean? Just load up one or two coals (me and my friends usually use only one) and place it to the aluminium foil and smoke.
From late page, this is a good advice:
On June 20 2011 09:53 Straught wrote: I love hookas. Best brand of tobacco for that is starbuzz, try it out! A few tips while preparing a water pipe: -Don't fill the bowl too much, the tobacco mustn't reach the top. -Make very small holes on the aluminum. -Put the coal on the side of the bowl, not in the center.
On June 24 2011 05:23 Paver wrote: I am a smokoholic. I don't care what the brand is.. just be cheap. I smoke tailors and rollies, but mostly rollies cause they are the cheapest. Also rollies do taste better.
I've tried snuz wasn't a fan.
I've tried cigars, Was told you aren't suppose to inhale it, just bumpuff it.. Seems pointless. Instinctive reaction is to inhale. Not a fan.
Shisha is awesome, but I don't understand how to operate the damn pipe with the coals and everything.
Not a fan of any other drug. Even alcohol is meh.. But smoking that bitch has my heart.
Some people way overcomplicate the whole hookah smoking process. Put some foil over the top of the bowl. Poke some holes in it. Add as many or as few coals as you need to keep it going. If it stops burning, add a new coal or push the coals to another side of the bowl.
The only other thing you need to know is to clean your hookah. It's the most important thing. Soap + water is fine.
The nine graphic images that will be mandatory on all cigarette packages now. Thoughts/feelings?
As a non-smoker, I like the shock-based encouragement for people to quit/not start. As a capitalist, I find government control imposed on a product to be bad. So I'm in the middle here.
To be honest, I don't see those (and similar) warnings working at all. If we have to have a warning on cigarette packs to encourage quitting, why not make it something like "Dear smoker, how about waiting a couple of minutes more before the next one, you'd probably enjoy it even more, and your lung will be happier."
On April 22 2011 05:45 Omnipresent wrote: Buying your Pipe
One additional thing I would recommend to look for when buying a pipe is the location of the hole connecting to the stem in the bowl: All tobacco below this hole will be left over each time you use the pipe. Not only is this a waste of tobacco, but also to the taste of the pipe, because unburnt, possibly moist tobacco should not stay in there for longer periods of time. Hence, the lower this hole sits in the bowl, the better the pipe.
Interestingly, the height of the hole in the bowl varies quite a lot from pipe to pipe, although it makes absolutely no sense to put it anywhere except as close to the bottom as possible. I guess that makes this the most common design flaw in pipes.
On April 22 2011 05:45 Omnipresent wrote: Buying your Pipe
One additional thing I would recommend to look for when buying a pipe is the location of the hole connecting to the stem in the bowl: All tobacco below this hole will be left over each time you use the pipe. Not only is this a waste of tobacco, but also to the taste of the pipe, because unburnt, possibly moist tobacco should not stay in there for longer periods of time. Hence, the lower this hole sits in the bowl, the better the pipe.
Interestingly, the height of the hole in the bowl varies quite a lot from pipe to pipe, although it makes absolutely no sense to put it anywhere except as close to the bottom as possible. I guess that makes this the most common design flaw in pipes.
This is definitely something to think about, but first time buyers aren't likely to know what they like best.
For example, I actually prefer pipes with holes slightly higher than the bottom. They're much easier to clean and generally smoke more smoothly. Pipes with holes directly at the bottom sometimes clog with carbon, and are difficult to clear out (pipes with holes at the bottom center, not coming from the side).
As far as your concern about unburned tobacco, you should gently sweep out the inside of your bowl with a pipe cleaner after each smoke. There shouldn't really be any unused tobacco left. It's still a waste of tobacco, though (but not much).
Hey guys it's my 18th birthday today, so of course I have to celebrate it by exercising my new right to buy tobacco products! There's a local tobacco shop called CB Perkins where I'm planning on going to buy my first cigar. I'm (obviously) very inexperienced and have literally no idea what to buy, so I need some suggestions. I'm looking to buy in the $5 range (max). I found this website, but idk if it's the same CB Perkins as the one in my area because it's not listed under locations. Anyway, I guess this is my list of possible choices: http://fujipub.com/cbperkins/index.html#cigar
On June 29 2011 01:21 Kazragore wrote: Hey guys it's my 18th birthday today, so of course I have to celebrate it by exercising my new right to buy tobacco products! There's a local tobacco shop called CB Perkins where I'm planning on going to buy my first cigar. I'm (obviously) very inexperienced and have literally no idea what to buy, so I need some suggestions. I'm looking to buy in the $5 range (max). I found this website, but idk if it's the same CB Perkins as the one in my area because it's not listed under locations. Anyway, I guess this is my list of possible choices: http://fujipub.com/cbperkins/index.html#cigar
Happy birthday. There are some suggestions in the guide in the OP, but your best bet is to ask the shop owner (or whoever is working) for a suggestion. Avoid flavored of "infused" cigars.
A really good bet for a first cigar is a Punch. They're sold at most shops, are quite affordable, reliable, and taste pretty good. It's also a pretty easy smoke. You wont feel nauseous or anything from smoking, even if you aren't used to tobacco.
If you aren't used to smoking, pick a short robusto or something with a small ring gauge. Smoking a larger cigar may upset your stomach a bit. You'll also want a cutter, but you can get a really cheap one for your first cutter. If you don't intend to make cigars a regular thing, it's acceptable to just use a really sharp knife (no need to buy a cutter for a single cigar), or you can ask the guy at the shop to cut it for you (most shops will do this).
Cigar people are generally helpful/friendly, so don't be afraid to ask questions at the shop.
Note: The humidor is currently stacked to the brim and thus the order is not the best. A few Robustos have their outer leaf cracked. They are from an earlier batch which I brought back from my stay in the States, the TSA was not kind to them. I took the vitolas off and passed them as dominican, but they still did not treat them right. I also dont think being thrown around in the luggage helped either. But there was not realy any other way and they survived well enough. Im going to smoke them earlier, thus they are on the top layer.
Comments, recommendations?
Disclaimer: Not to flame nor for you take personally.
I personally know a cigar shop owner and according to his standards he would say you are a douche. He owns 3 shops and tells me how people will walk in with money all the time and buy 300 cigars of what is "known". Thus by seen smoking relatively expensive cigars, they try to associate themselves with a false image.
He also taught me when I smoke I should always take off the bands before I smoke, not to show off which brand it is I smoke. It is of mutual appreciation of true cigar aficionados and when somebody sees you smoke a cigar and it appeals to their senses - they will come to you ask what it is you smoke, leading to discussion and sharing flavor notes, instead of recognizing the cigar manufacturer by the band. Many commoners will show off their brand of choice obnoxiously to gain the attention and pretend they know something about cigars but lack the knowledge and history of what they are smoking, let alone can describe it accurately.
It is also ideal to have scrap dried cedar around to layer your cigars in your humidor, and to have strips handy for your smoke. I was taught to light the cedar spill first in order to light your smoke. The sulfur from matches, and butane from lighters will ruin your smoke and by lighting cedar spill, you can have a nice initial light without over-burning or contaminating the flavors.
Where is your humidor from (which manufacturer?) My preferred smoke of choice was Montecristo no.2 after a heavy meal. I'd usually have a few 95% cocoa dark chocolates to compliment the smoke. When do you smoke, and with what (if, at all)?
Note: The humidor is currently stacked to the brim and thus the order is not the best. A few Robustos have their outer leaf cracked. They are from an earlier batch which I brought back from my stay in the States, the TSA was not kind to them. I took the vitolas off and passed them as dominican, but they still did not treat them right. I also dont think being thrown around in the luggage helped either. But there was not realy any other way and they survived well enough. Im going to smoke them earlier, thus they are on the top layer.
Comments, recommendations?
Disclaimer: Not to flame nor for you take personally.
I personally know a cigar shop owner and according to his standards he would say you are a douche. He owns 3 shops and tells me how people will walk in with money all the time and buy 300 cigars of what is "known". Thus by seen smoking relatively expensive cigars, they try to associate themselves with a false image.
He also taught me when I smoke I should always take off the bands before I smoke, not to show off which brand it is I smoke. It is of mutual appreciation of true cigar aficionados and when somebody sees you smoke a cigar and it appeals to their senses - they will come to you ask what it is you smoke, leading to discussion and sharing flavor notes, instead of recognizing the cigar manufacturer by the band. Many commoners will show off their brand of choice obnoxiously to gain the attention and pretend they know something about cigars but lack the knowledge and history of what they are smoking, let alone can describe it accurately.
It is also ideal to have scrap dried cedar around to layer your cigars in your humidor, and to have strips handy for your smoke. I was taught to light the cedar spill first in order to light your smoke. The sulfur from matches, and butane from lighters will ruin your smoke and by lighting cedar spill, you can have a nice initial light without over-burning or contaminating the flavors.
Where is your humidor from (which manufacturer?) My preferred smoke of choice was Montecristo no.2 after a heavy meal. I'd usually have a few 95% cocoa dark chocolates to compliment the smoke. When do you smoke, and with what (if, at all)?
I know that ridiculously elitist diatribe didn't just start with you calling someone else a douche for their cigar choices.
I'd bet you anything that you can't tell the difference between a cigar lit with a cedar stick, a cigar lit with a match (after the sulfur burns off, or probably even before), and a cigar properly lit with a butane (not wick) lighter. Band on, band off, who cares? That's one of the things cigar elitists argue about to demonstrate their superiority. Oil transfer between cigars in a humidor is minimal. There's no reason to layer with extra cedar, and definitely no reason to tell others they're wrong for not doing it.
I also like how you bash someone for buying popular/expensive/known cigars and then go on to talk about how much you love your Montecristo no. 2s, which are popular/expensive/known.
You talk down to people, deriding "commoners" for what you perceive to be poor etiquette. Saying you don't intend to flame doesn't mean you aren't flaming. Treat other people and their choices with respect.
So I recently switched from Menthol Cigarettes to Full Flavors. The mint taste of the menthol really bothered me and I'm glad to be rid of it. Do you guys prefer your smoke with Menthol or without?
I did a lot of trial and error in the beginning (cigarettes) and I've settled on Kool 100s!
I can't smoke non-100's cigarettes, I feel like in 2 puffs it's down to the last inch, and I never smoke that because it's just nasty, no matter how much of a smoker I am :X
I usually prefer menthol for the taste and strength, but I find the taste of Newports kind of nasty (in my opinion they aren't menthols, they are 'something else'), and most non-menthols taste like ass, with the exception of select few like Marlboros.
Lights are absolutely disgusting, and I dislike turkish tobacco.
I love how you embrace the fact that tobacco WILL kill you and it's too late to stop so you go on and know everything about it. And it becomes a hobby! Not that I'm intrested in tobacco or anything but I just like the approche. Awesome thread.
i've smoked just about everything in tobacco form. started off with reds and american spirits which probably didnt help my lungs. but i've gone from quitting to starting to menthols to ultralights.
cigars are enjoyable but i probably only partake in them once every couple years.
hookah is great although i've found myself smoking bowls on bowls by myself while working on music.
pipe tobacco was fun. i bought one of those long wizard pipes like what gandalf had in one of those lotr movies. my friends have permanently borrowed it to smoke weed out of it.
On June 29 2011 09:23 Castrophy wrote: So I recently switched from Menthol Cigarettes to Full Flavors. The mint taste of the menthol really bothered me and I'm glad to be rid of it. Do you guys prefer your smoke with Menthol or without?
I can't smoke non-menthol cigarettes...recently I've been smoking Newports, and they're really good IMO.
Note: The humidor is currently stacked to the brim and thus the order is not the best. A few Robustos have their outer leaf cracked. They are from an earlier batch which I brought back from my stay in the States, the TSA was not kind to them. I took the vitolas off and passed them as dominican, but they still did not treat them right. I also dont think being thrown around in the luggage helped either. But there was not realy any other way and they survived well enough. Im going to smoke them earlier, thus they are on the top layer.
Comments, recommendations?
Disclaimer: Not to flame nor for you take personally.
I personally know a cigar shop owner and according to his standards he would say you are a douche. He owns 3 shops and tells me how people will walk in with money all the time and buy 300 cigars of what is "known". Thus by seen smoking relatively expensive cigars, they try to associate themselves with a false image.
He also taught me when I smoke I should always take off the bands before I smoke, not to show off which brand it is I smoke. It is of mutual appreciation of true cigar aficionados and when somebody sees you smoke a cigar and it appeals to their senses - they will come to you ask what it is you smoke, leading to discussion and sharing flavor notes, instead of recognizing the cigar manufacturer by the band. Many commoners will show off their brand of choice obnoxiously to gain the attention and pretend they know something about cigars but lack the knowledge and history of what they are smoking, let alone can describe it accurately.
It is also ideal to have scrap dried cedar around to layer your cigars in your humidor, and to have strips handy for your smoke. I was taught to light the cedar spill first in order to light your smoke. The sulfur from matches, and butane from lighters will ruin your smoke and by lighting cedar spill, you can have a nice initial light without over-burning or contaminating the flavors.
Where is your humidor from (which manufacturer?) My preferred smoke of choice was Montecristo no.2 after a heavy meal. I'd usually have a few 95% cocoa dark chocolates to compliment the smoke. When do you smoke, and with what (if, at all)?
I can assure your "friend" I am not a douche because I very seldomly smoke cigars outside my home or with anyone else than close friends of mine who share my interests in cigars. Moreover, I always extend the courtesy of offering any cigar from that box to any of my guests as hospitality would require.
I buy these cigars because I know, from personal experience, that I find them the best. It is also true they are considered among the "elite" of cigars and that is why they are priced accordingly, but the reason I buy them is because I thoroughly enjoy them. It is a little bit hard for me to "obnoxiously gain attention" of other people if I do not leave the confines of my apartment (except the balcony) with the cigars. The reason I do not take them anywhere is because I understand that the great majority of the public does not enjoy being in rooms where cigars are being smoked and that feeling is perfectly understandable and I do not mean to impose on them. I doubt the rare occasion where I smoke one of my own cigars in a public venue could be considered obnoxiously garnering attention, but if it is then so be it. Moreover, if I wanted to obnoxiusly boast or brag I would post pictures with my growing whisky and rum collection (perfect combination with the cigars) which I do not since it is beyond the scope of this thread.
My humidor brand is Zino by Davidoff. My favorite cigar usually depends on the occasion. I love to smoke cigars while playing cards, and for those purposes I enjoy larger vitolas whereas after dinner or accompanying an afternoon drink I would prefer a smaller vitola. All in all, I would have to round it down to 2 cigars which would be the Cohiba Robusto and the Monecristo No. 4. The reason behind it is because I find them both to be relatively balanced for their class/size (The robusto more intense with a larger draw, the No. 4 with a delicate yet noticeable hints of chocolate and coffee).
I usually smoke in the evenings with friends, every 2 weeks on Thursdays. Sometimes we smoke before we go out to the club, but that is very seldom. I accompany my cigars usually with single malt whisky, straight. Right now I am very fond of Macallan Elegancia 12 yrs and Lagavulin 15 yrs for special occasions.
Anyone have experience with dipping/chewing tobacco?
I just bought a tin of Skoal long cut peach by accident, I was pretty dumb because I thought it would be loose tobacco that you smoke... then I open the tin, and think to myself wtf is this wet stuff :S
Tried to hold some in between my bottom lip and teeth, but the stuff gets broken apart so easily and I have to spit like every 5-10 seconds which is annoying, not to mention bits and pieces inevitably move around to other parts of my mouth which I find unpleasant.
Are you supposed to suck/swallow the fruity juices? How long are you supposed to hold it every time?
I used to smoke Du Maurier, but I switched to Pall Mall because I'm currently in between jobs and trying to save a bit of money. Of course my loved ones say " IF YOU WANNA SAVE MONEY JUST DON'T SMOKE"
ughhh, just let me sit back, enjoy my smoke and watch my day 9 daily.
On July 02 2011 05:02 Ravencruiser wrote: Anyone have experience with dipping/chewing tobacco?
I just bought a tin of Skoal long cut peach by accident, I was pretty dumb because I thought it would be loose tobacco that you smoke... then I open the tin, and think to myself wtf is this wet stuff :S
Tried to hold some in between my bottom lip and teeth, but the stuff gets broken apart so easily and I have to spit like every 5-10 seconds which is annoying, not to mention bits and pieces inevitably move around to other parts of my mouth which I find unpleasant.
Are you supposed to suck/swallow the fruity juices? How long are you supposed to hold it every time?
Some advice would be appreciated
Hey man I'm sure I can help you out because I used to dip a lot. First the reason you lost a lot of the dip is you probaly didn't pack it. You want to have the dip as tightly packed as possible. Then when you take a pinch put it between your thumb and index finger and pull your bottom lip out while putting it as tight as possible. You might lose a little bit but if you do it right the majority of it will still be there.
Now to the actual consuming of it. You want to suck on it like you are generating saliva. don't swallow the juice you get but instead spit it out in a bottle or spitoon or the ground. The stuff that you spit is really gross and most people will be disgusted by it. You can keep it in as long as you want but I find that longer then a half hour it gets a little tiresome because of the whole not swallowing at all. After it's out I would defiently suggest you wash your mouth out with water to make sure you don't swallow any of it.
If you are worried about it getting out of control you can always buy pouches will still do the job. Grizzly seems to have the best pouches in my experience. Snus is also another option which is ment to be swallowed but it is a lot less strong and wont buzz you as much.
I've found that Mint flavor is really good and sold in most stores. Cherry Skoal was by far my favorite though but I can only find it at the indian reservation near my house.
Thanks for the advice, I'm getting a pretty strong nicotine buzz from the stuff which is surprising, considering I've been smoking ~5 ciggs everyday for the past 2 weeks.
I find the tingling sensation terribly irritating though, which made me nauseous so I suppose this will take some getting used to. If I keep the ball of snuff in one place, that part of my mouth starts to tingle then hurt after about 5 minutes, forcing me to relocate the ball to another part of my mouth which break the ball... ahhh I'm so noob, pretty frustrated at the moment:S
Is this stuff smokable by any chance? It's still tobacco right, but are there additives that are (relatively even more) harmful if combusted?
The nine graphic images that will be mandatory on all cigarette packages now. Thoughts/feelings?
As a non-smoker, I like the shock-based encouragement for people to quit/not start. As a capitalist, I find government control imposed on a product to be bad. So I'm in the middle here.
Won't stop current smokers, and I doubt it'll have too much of an impact on younger people. After all, schools teach kids that cigs are bad anyway.
On July 02 2011 05:42 Ravencruiser wrote: Thanks for the advice, I'm getting a pretty strong nicotine buzz from the stuff which is surprising, considering I've been smoking ~5 ciggs everyday for the past 2 weeks.
I find the tingling sensation terribly irritating though, which made me nauseous so I suppose this will take some getting used to. If I keep the ball of snuff in one place, that part of my mouth starts to tingle then hurt after about 5 minutes, forcing me to relocate the ball to another part of my mouth which break the ball... ahhh I'm so noob, pretty frustrated at the moment:S
Is this stuff smokable by any chance? It's still tobacco right, but are there additives that are (relatively even more) harmful if combusted?
Yeah the tingling is pretty bothersome but you get used to it after a while. I've never thought about smoking it but I feel like it would be pretty tough considering it's not really dried out.
So the price of cigarettes keep going up and I'm looking for a solution.
I was told buying cartons online is a real good deal, but the first few finds on google sketch me out a little bit. The prices seem too good to be true and I'm afraid of buying fake cigs or get my credit card stolen from some eastern European country.
I was wondering if anyone could recommend a reliable source for this type of service.
On July 03 2011 02:58 Unifex wrote: So the price of cigarettes keep going up and I'm looking for a solution.
I was told buying cartons online is a real good deal, but the first few finds on google sketch me out a little bit. The prices seem too good to be true and I'm afraid of buying fake cigs or get my credit card stolen from some eastern European country.
I was wondering if anyone could recommend a reliable source for this type of service.
I don't know were you live but if you have an indian reservation near you it would definetly be worth the trip. There is one about 20 minutes from my house. I buy a carton of Seneca Reds (Pretty much the same thing as Marb Reds) for 20 dollars. That's a great deal in my opinion concidering if I bought 10 packs of marbs at a gas station it would be 100 dollars.
I love em, me and my friends get together all the time to play cards and chat and this is all we smoke haha. We also go to Sheesha bar's occasionally, but i prefer Cloves.
On July 03 2011 05:58 Dcamp0308 wrote: I just turned 18 a few months back, and smoking is really new for me. But one of my buddies turned me onto these.
I love em, me and my friends get together all the time to play cards and chat and this is all we smoke haha. We also go to Sheesha bar's occasionally, but i prefer Cloves.
Oh yes. Those are the best cloves Djarum makes (that I've had). I don't smoke many cigarettes, but even I occasionally pick up a pack of Blacks. Don't smoke them around people unless you're willing to share. Whenever I light one, it seems like there are at least half a dozen people looking to "borrow" one. Even some non-smokers make an exception.
On July 03 2011 05:58 Dcamp0308 wrote: I just turned 18 a few months back, and smoking is really new for me. But one of my buddies turned me onto these.
I love em, me and my friends get together all the time to play cards and chat and this is all we smoke haha. We also go to Sheesha bar's occasionally, but i prefer Cloves.
Oh yes. Those are the best cloves Djarum makes (that I've had). I don't smoke many cigarettes, but even I occasionally pick up a pack of Blacks. Don't smoke them around people unless you're willing to share. Whenever I light one, it seems like there are at least half a dozen people looking to "borrow" one. Even some non-smokers make an exception.
Yeah they're quite good. Me and my buddies usually get together a few times a week just to sit around and smoke them. Im trying to cut down on how much i smoke, but they're too good!
On July 02 2011 05:51 Euronyme wrote: I rarely smoke, as I usually go for snus instead http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus. Tastes so fucking good and lasts way longer.
If I do buy ciggarettes for a night out or so, it's gotta be prince.
It tastes like a soft wooden heaven.
I´m exactly the same, I go for snus daily but when I drink I smoke and then Prince it is.
I have recently quit smoking. (1 Month so far) My mother was diagnosed a little over a month ago with Lung Cancer. I just recently found out that if she does not respond well the next round of chemo and radiation she will only have 2 months. =/ No Agenda here, do what you want with the information. It made me quit, in a heartbeat.
If I'm being a debbie downer or just posting something that shouldn't be posted, let me know.
I've actually been thinking about making this post for a while, so don't take it as an attack or anything. I'm sorry about your mom, and I hope she does well.
But here it goes...
On pretty much every page, there's at least one post telling people not to smoke, that they can still quit, or are inconsiderate/stupid for smoking. Frankly, this isn't the place. This has been pointed out before, but I'd like to illustrate it more clearly. Here are the links to posts discouraging smoking. + Show Spoiler +
Now that's 52 posts in less than 22 full pages (as of this update). This list DOES NOT include posts by smokers who mention trying to quit in the past, that they're currently trying to quit, or wish they never started. It doesn't include the disclaimer on the original post or other similar messages within individual posts. It also doesn't include posts discussing proposed warning labels on tobacco (unless the post itself is also explicitly anti-tobacco), or any post quoting the above posts for purposes of discussion.
This is the tobacco smoking thread. For lack of a better comparison, it's a fanclub for tobacco. The pages are littered with anti-smoking messages. This sort of thing wouldn't happen in other fanclubs, and I wish it wouldn't happen here. We know it's addictive. We know it's dangerous. We don't need to be told, and neither does anyone else.
To the people in these posts, We appreciate the concern, but please stop.
I'll be updating this post as "stop smoking" posts continue to flow in. I'm sure they will.
For the cigar aficianados out there, I'll throw out another vote of confidence in the Oliva Series V -- my go to cigar.They're hands down the best cigar for their price and will stand up to any of the premium cigars like Cohiba Robustos or Montecristo #2's that cost 2-3x as much. However, as Omnipresent pointed out, they are strong and will probably knock you on your ass if you're new to cigars. The Series V does come in mulitple sizes, so you can get a smaller/shorter one to start off with if you want.
Where i work they only allow coffee/lunch breaks(obviously lol) but all the bosses there are smokers,so when i see that they are going for ciggy i can follow em and have a break while i smoke i am cunning man!
I smoke about 20 gram tobacco a day which is allot. Ive been thinking about quitting for a while now and some posts in this thread have motivated me to stop. Hopefully I will put in an effort in the following weeks. Smoking is expensive and does nothing for you except damaging your health.
I find it would be pretty easy to quit after a weekend drinking. I usually smoke shitloads when Im drunk and my throat hurts alot the next day and I dont even feel like smoking for 3-5 days. Same when Im ill. But still, there has always been something thats dragged me back into smoking.. Maybe one day I can actually do it. D:
Being a former smoker, i did enjoy a good flavored mini-cigar (vanilla) or a shisha pipe (the hookah, you call it), but in terms of pure tobacco consumption, nothing beat a good old ciggarete.
Also was a vivid fan of the "greener" alternative. Although that tends to come with its disadvantages, a couple being you wont be best friends with law enforcement, and you'll be forever bronze leaguer. (Providing you play during the effects :D)
Seriously though, give up dudes. Isnt as hard as you'd think, although you do gain a bit of weight, at least i know i did -_- fuckin podgy belly! :D dont knock you for it though, good times
is canada the only country where the standard is 25 packs of smokes as opposed to 20? whenever i go to America no one knows how to open a canadian pack (you push the bottom).
and to the post above me, i smoke the greener alternative all day and limit my SC2 playing to being high and im diamond, though you could argue id be masters if this was not the case.
Yo, it`s never too late to quit, I`ve known tons of people who used to smoke and they quit, a number of them cold turkey. You really just need to want to quit to quit, plus there`s all this nicotine patch shit that makes quitting all the more easier.
I just used a 2L bottle, cut it near the top, and dipped the end in bubble fluid. Shisha works best because it's easier to inhale more smoke, thus bigger bubbles. Happy smoking!!
Just received some Peter Stokkebye Balken Supreme pipe tobacco, it is an extremely good english blend. It is also fairly well priced as it is a bulk blend.
I'm not a big fan of smoking, I get sick and have too much of a head rush if I take more than a drag. Tried dipping too, I can stand some Skoal apple but that's about it. Again too much of a head rush to be pleasurable and a bit messy.
But I love Camel Snus. Any other fans out there? You don't need to spit and you get a pleasant buzz that lasts. Awesome for work and long class days.
There's difference between smoking and smoking... Most people smoke without enjoying it... After reading the pipe-guide, I know what I want for christmas :D
My smoke of choice are Lucky Strikes (filterless) and Camel Wides. Also enjoy Parliament full flavors, Marlboro 27s, and American spirits. Smoke djarums when I feel like a treat.
Recently I've become more interested in rolling my own cigarettes, thinking about buying tubes and getting a cig injector machine. I'm starting to notice more of the FSC chemical taste in manufactured cigarettes and I'm not crazy about it.
On September 10 2011 13:54 iliera wrote: There's difference between smoking and smoking... Most people smoke without enjoying it... After reading the pipe-guide, I know what I want for christmas :D
On September 04 2011 03:18 PureMetal wrote: I'm not a big fan of smoking, I get sick and have too much of a head rush if I take more than a drag. Tried dipping too, I can stand some Skoal apple but that's about it. Again too much of a head rush to be pleasurable and a bit messy.
But I love Camel Snus. Any other fans out there? You don't need to spit and you get a pleasant buzz that lasts. Awesome for work and long class days.
Cool, wasn't even aware that snus existed in the US. Haven't tried Camel Snus, not sure if I can buy it here in Sweden. I have tried pretty much every brand of swedish snus though. I find it to last much longer than a cigarette does, but the taste is something that takes a while to appreciate.
Do you happen to know how long snus has existed in the US? I know you have the regular chewing tobacco, but this is the first time I see something that seems to be identical to our beloved (many would disagree on that point ^^) snus.
smoke djarums, havent looked back. I enjoy the fact that there's actually "green" stores, with organic and chaep foods and other stuff, that also has expensive wines and beers, AND has an entire enclosed cabinet dedicated to all sorts of cigars and (GOOD quality) cigarettes and other whatnot.
smoking has existed since the beginning of time. don't let all the paid for lobbying against it fool you, or the paid for "scientific" studies.
people always need to fight for control of something.
On July 26 2011 21:46 BestZergOnEast wrote: The oldest man who ever lived was a smoker apparently. I try not to smoke, but it's hard.
think of it like bad eating habits.
If you exercise a lot to counteract it, and you moderate the "junk food", you will stay pretty healthy and live longer as a result.
You might say that smoking or junk food is the counter to longevity, and exercise is the muta harass or infestor fungal that counters smoking or junk food.
But remember, in moderation. one a day is fine. 1 pack a day is obviously not.
On September 10 2011 14:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: My smoke of choice are Lucky Strikes (filterless) and Camel Wides. Also enjoy Parliament full flavors, Marlboro 27s, and American spirits. Smoke djarums when I feel like a treat.
Recently I've become more interested in rolling my own cigarettes, thinking about buying tubes and getting a cig injector machine. I'm starting to notice more of the FSC chemical taste in manufactured cigarettes and I'm not crazy about it.
I switched to roll my own as a pretty casual smoker and don't think I could ever go back to buying FSC cigs... or even want to bum one. I've been buying the pouches of the US Grown American Spirit tobacco and it's good . I would recommend buying some good rolling paper though because the papers that come with the tobacco aren't really that good (although still better than FSC crap.) I've been using the standard orange zigzag papers.
I've actually been buying cloves to make my own clove cigarettes which has been pretty nice for a change up from normal cigarettes. Has anyone else done this? I have no problem getting the good clove flavor and cracking effect, but I haven't really had success adding other flavors to the smoke. I would like to make my own coffee or vanilla flavored cigs. Anyone have experience doing so?
On September 10 2011 13:54 iliera wrote: There's difference between smoking and smoking... Most people smoke without enjoying it... After reading the pipe-guide, I know what I want for christmas :D
On September 10 2011 14:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: My smoke of choice are Lucky Strikes (filterless) and Camel Wides. Also enjoy Parliament full flavors, Marlboro 27s, and American spirits. Smoke djarums when I feel like a treat.
Recently I've become more interested in rolling my own cigarettes, thinking about buying tubes and getting a cig injector machine. I'm starting to notice more of the FSC chemical taste in manufactured cigarettes and I'm not crazy about it.
I switched to roll my own as a pretty casual smoker and don't think I could ever go back to buying FSC cigs... or even want to bum one. I've been buying the pouches of the US Grown American Spirit tobacco and it's good . I would recommend buying some good rolling paper though because the papers that come with the tobacco aren't really that good (although still better than FSC crap.) I've been using the standard orange zigzag papers.
I've actually been buying cloves to make my own clove cigarettes which has been pretty nice for a change up from normal cigarettes. Has anyone else done this? I have no problem getting the good clove flavor and cracking effect, but I haven't really had success adding other flavors to the smoke. I would like to make my own coffee or vanilla flavored cigs. Anyone have experience doing so?
It's my understanding that making clove cigarettes taste good is actually pretty complicated. I actually tried Djarum Black-Vanilla recently, and they taste almost identical to regular Blacks. Good luck though.
I'm going to try making my own pipe blend using tobacco from a couple cigars that I accidentally let dry out and crack. I can't smoke them regularly anymore, so it's worth a shot.
On September 10 2011 15:34 brachester wrote: start using chewing gums, alot of people use it to quit smoking
I recently started smoking black cloves, I usually smoke one every other night or so. Been doing this for a couple months now and I get a good buzz. Is there a different brand of cigarillo or cigarette that will give me a better buzz and wouldn't be too expensive?
Iv'e also been wondering if I will be able to continue getting a buzz from tobacco long term, assuming i stick to one cig every other day or so (don't want to smoke more for fear of getting too used to em). Iv'e been told to just move to pot if all i'm looking for is that buzz but I really don't want to do that..
If you don't smoke really often, or really large amounts, any physical effects you feel should remain relatively consistent.
As far as a quick smoke goes, you'll usually get the best buzz from cloves or certain unfiltered cigarettes. If you have more time, there are a lot of cigars that will knock you flat on your ass if you're not prepared. Some richer Hookah tobaccos can have potent effects as well.
On September 10 2011 16:23 GirThemPiggies wrote: What kind of cigars exactly? Most people i know recommend not inhaling them
Definitely don't inhale. Be careful trying some of the more potent cigars if you're not experienced. You may get sick. Here are a few brands I can think of off the top of my head that fit what you're asking for.
On September 10 2011 16:23 GirThemPiggies wrote: What kind of cigars exactly? Most people i know recommend not inhaling them
You don't need to inhale to get the nicotine buzz. I know nothing about cigars but I'd guess that pretty much any one of them would have that effect if you only smoke 1 cig a day.
The thing you miss when not inhaling is the throat hit. It's something you get hooked to after you have smoked for a while.
On September 10 2011 13:54 iliera wrote: There's difference between smoking and smoking... Most people smoke without enjoying it... After reading the pipe-guide, I know what I want for christmas :D
On September 10 2011 14:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: My smoke of choice are Lucky Strikes (filterless) and Camel Wides. Also enjoy Parliament full flavors, Marlboro 27s, and American spirits. Smoke djarums when I feel like a treat.
Recently I've become more interested in rolling my own cigarettes, thinking about buying tubes and getting a cig injector machine. I'm starting to notice more of the FSC chemical taste in manufactured cigarettes and I'm not crazy about it.
I switched to roll my own as a pretty casual smoker and don't think I could ever go back to buying FSC cigs... or even want to bum one. I've been buying the pouches of the US Grown American Spirit tobacco and it's good . I would recommend buying some good rolling paper though because the papers that come with the tobacco aren't really that good (although still better than FSC crap.) I've been using the standard orange zigzag papers.
I've actually been buying cloves to make my own clove cigarettes which has been pretty nice for a change up from normal cigarettes. Has anyone else done this? I have no problem getting the good clove flavor and cracking effect, but I haven't really had success adding other flavors to the smoke. I would like to make my own coffee or vanilla flavored cigs. Anyone have experience doing so?
It's my understanding that making clove cigarettes taste good is actually pretty complicated. I actually tried Djarum Black-Vanilla recently, and they taste almost identical to regular Blacks. Good luck though.
I'm going to try making my own pipe blend using tobacco from a couple cigars that I accidentally let dry out and crack. I can't smoke them regularly anymore, so it's worth a shot.
Smoking a pipe is one of the most relaxing hobbies I have encountered. If you are looking for a flip side to the high adrenaline activity of playing Starcraft, consider smoking a pipe. There is definitely a learning curve involved with a pipe, but once you work through it the flavors you can get from tobacco is amazing. It really isn't all that expensive if you live in the USA, tobacco and pipes are relatively cheap compared to the rest of the world.
On September 10 2011 14:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: My smoke of choice are Lucky Strikes (filterless) and Camel Wides. Also enjoy Parliament full flavors, Marlboro 27s, and American spirits. Smoke djarums when I feel like a treat.
Recently I've become more interested in rolling my own cigarettes, thinking about buying tubes and getting a cig injector machine. I'm starting to notice more of the FSC chemical taste in manufactured cigarettes and I'm not crazy about it.
I switched to roll my own as a pretty casual smoker and don't think I could ever go back to buying FSC cigs... or even want to bum one. I've been buying the pouches of the US Grown American Spirit tobacco and it's good . I would recommend buying some good rolling paper though because the papers that come with the tobacco aren't really that good (although still better than FSC crap.) I've been using the standard orange zigzag papers.
I've actually been buying cloves to make my own clove cigarettes which has been pretty nice for a change up from normal cigarettes. Has anyone else done this? I have no problem getting the good clove flavor and cracking effect, but I haven't really had success adding other flavors to the smoke. I would like to make my own coffee or vanilla flavored cigs. Anyone have experience doing so?
How long does it take to make a single cigarette? I'm pretty clumsy and I'm bad with things like folding or whatever it would be a lot easier to buy premade tubes and inject them.
On September 04 2011 03:18 PureMetal wrote: I'm not a big fan of smoking, I get sick and have too much of a head rush if I take more than a drag. Tried dipping too, I can stand some Skoal apple but that's about it. Again too much of a head rush to be pleasurable and a bit messy.
But I love Camel Snus. Any other fans out there? You don't need to spit and you get a pleasant buzz that lasts. Awesome for work and long class days.
Cool, wasn't even aware that snus existed in the US. Haven't tried Camel Snus, not sure if I can buy it here in Sweden. I have tried pretty much every brand of swedish snus though. I find it to last much longer than a cigarette does, but the taste is something that takes a while to appreciate.
Do you happen to know how long snus has existed in the US? I know you have the regular chewing tobacco, but this is the first time I see something that seems to be identical to our beloved (many would disagree on that point ^^) snus.
I'd guess camel snus has been around for a while. Is your snus flavored in sweden? camel frost is super minty
On September 10 2011 14:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: My smoke of choice are Lucky Strikes (filterless) and Camel Wides. Also enjoy Parliament full flavors, Marlboro 27s, and American spirits. Smoke djarums when I feel like a treat.
Recently I've become more interested in rolling my own cigarettes, thinking about buying tubes and getting a cig injector machine. I'm starting to notice more of the FSC chemical taste in manufactured cigarettes and I'm not crazy about it.
I switched to roll my own as a pretty casual smoker and don't think I could ever go back to buying FSC cigs... or even want to bum one. I've been buying the pouches of the US Grown American Spirit tobacco and it's good . I would recommend buying some good rolling paper though because the papers that come with the tobacco aren't really that good (although still better than FSC crap.) I've been using the standard orange zigzag papers.
I've actually been buying cloves to make my own clove cigarettes which has been pretty nice for a change up from normal cigarettes. Has anyone else done this? I have no problem getting the good clove flavor and cracking effect, but I haven't really had success adding other flavors to the smoke. I would like to make my own coffee or vanilla flavored cigs. Anyone have experience doing so?
How long does it take to make a single cigarette? I'm pretty clumsy and I'm bad with things like folding or whatever it would be a lot easier to buy premade tubes and inject them.
Rolling your own cigarette is super easy and quick. Buy a ZigZag 78mm rolling machine :D. They are like 2 bucks.. and it probably only takes 30 seconds to make a cigarette depending on how much of a rush you are in. Sorry for the late response.
On September 10 2011 14:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: My smoke of choice are Lucky Strikes (filterless) and Camel Wides. Also enjoy Parliament full flavors, Marlboro 27s, and American spirits. Smoke djarums when I feel like a treat.
Recently I've become more interested in rolling my own cigarettes, thinking about buying tubes and getting a cig injector machine. I'm starting to notice more of the FSC chemical taste in manufactured cigarettes and I'm not crazy about it.
I switched to roll my own as a pretty casual smoker and don't think I could ever go back to buying FSC cigs... or even want to bum one. I've been buying the pouches of the US Grown American Spirit tobacco and it's good . I would recommend buying some good rolling paper though because the papers that come with the tobacco aren't really that good (although still better than FSC crap.) I've been using the standard orange zigzag papers.
I've actually been buying cloves to make my own clove cigarettes which has been pretty nice for a change up from normal cigarettes. Has anyone else done this? I have no problem getting the good clove flavor and cracking effect, but I haven't really had success adding other flavors to the smoke. I would like to make my own coffee or vanilla flavored cigs. Anyone have experience doing so?
How long does it take to make a single cigarette? I'm pretty clumsy and I'm bad with things like folding or whatever it would be a lot easier to buy premade tubes and inject them.
Rolling your own cigarette is super easy and quick. Buy a ZigZag 78mm rolling machine :D. They are like 2 bucks.. and it probably only takes 30 seconds to make a cigarette depending on how much of a rush you are in. Sorry for the late response. + Show Spoiler +
If that looks too complicated, they also make rolling machines contained in little boxes. You can store all your materials in there and the rolling is really simple.
Last week I went and bought a bunch of new pipe tobacco after not smoking any of my pipes for a couple years. I missed it so much, and this thread reminded me.
I smoke Camel lights (Camel blue now called) and cannabis all night while I play SC2 and LoL, they are definitely both a great complement to gaming. Been smoking cigarettes for 9 years now and cannabis for 13. It's cool to find a thread about this and it's not something like "why I don't smoke" or something like that, I Live in Virginia, and this country was built on tobacco Money. I don't see why we shouldn't be able to discuss something we enjoy even though majority of people are so against it and think it's so disgusting. To each his (or her) own, I say...
@UisTehSux I've never smoked either, but I've never had a bad La Gloria Cubana. Though I must say, that picture looks more like a painting than a photo.
@Unifex Buying cigarettes over the internet is pretty tough. Most states require vendors to buy tax stamps that are attached to each pack or carton sold. This means that, in most cases, it's illegal to buy cigarettes from an out of state company and have them shipped to you. That is, unless the vendor has a stock of tax stamps for a bunch of different states (which is cost prohibitive), and it might even be illegal anyway. I think you can do it if you live in Texas (had a friend who used to do it, but I'm not sure where he got them from), but I know you can't in my state. This pretty much means online cigarette companies have a hard time staying in business. Good luck.
On November 22 2011 12:00 Unifex wrote: Could anyone recommend a web site to buy cheaper cigarettes online? The prices just went up again in NYC and it's becoming absurd.
I tried googling but a lot of them seem like sketchy eastern european sites.
I have ordered couple packs once from tygerpipes.com (chinese site??). Fairly fast delivery and no problems, but i have no idea how they'll deliver to US or how much cheaper it is.
On November 22 2011 12:00 Unifex wrote: Could anyone recommend a web site to buy cheaper cigarettes online? The prices just went up again in NYC and it's becoming absurd.
I tried googling but a lot of them seem like sketchy eastern european sites.
I would give you the site that I order mine form when I have something worthy of a cigar coming up but it is only cuban cigars so not good for people in the US I did google cigars online for US and there are quite a few sites that sell them at solid prices, just go google it and you should find something reasonable
I have an interesting gripe where I have to smoke after every long game of Starcraft (30min+). Not really an issue, but after a laddering session I can seriously damage my tobacco stock. Since It's purely for the stress relief (I think!) would it be worth buying cheaper tobacco for that specific use? Unlike when I normally smoke (rolls, Golden Virginia) I dont get half as much enjoyment out of it and seem to burn through it at a heroic pace.
Anyone had a similar experience, not nessecarily Starcraft? Would it be worth buying cheap crap like Sky blue or Red Band for the sole purpose of smoking after laddering? Or would the change from the norm offset my fix and become wasted money?
On November 22 2011 12:00 Unifex wrote: Could anyone recommend a web site to buy cheaper cigarettes online? The prices just went up again in NYC and it's becoming absurd.
I tried googling but a lot of them seem like sketchy eastern european sites.
I would give you the site that I order mine form when I have something worthy of a cigar coming up but it is only cuban cigars so not good for people in the US I did google cigars online for US and there are quite a few sites that sell them at solid prices, just go google it and you should find something reasonable
He was asking about cigarettes, which are hard to get over the internet in the US.
For cigars, I buy mine from cigar.com. They've got a pretty solid selection and very reasonable prices. They're also constantly doing offers for free shipping, daily deals, weekend specials, etc. The forum community there is also pretty helpful.
On November 22 2011 12:00 Unifex wrote: Could anyone recommend a web site to buy cheaper cigarettes online? The prices just went up again in NYC and it's becoming absurd.
I tried googling but a lot of them seem like sketchy eastern european sites.
I would give you the site that I order mine form when I have something worthy of a cigar coming up but it is only cuban cigars so not good for people in the US I did google cigars online for US and there are quite a few sites that sell them at solid prices, just go google it and you should find something reasonable
He was asking about cigarettes, which are hard to get over the internet in the US.
For cigars, I buy mine from cigar.com. They've got a pretty solid selection and very reasonable prices. They're also constantly doing offers for free shipping, daily deals, weekend specials, etc. The forum community there is also pretty helpful.
That looks like a solid site. Any cigar people recommend a good maduro cigar? I've normally shied away from the darker wrappers for fear they might be too strong to me. I'm normally a more mild cigar smoker that enjoys the sweeter smoke vs the slight harsher/coffee flavored smoke that come sometimes with Maduro's. Looking to branch out though so any recommendations are welcome.
I would prefer to smoke American Spirits, they seem to affect me physically a lot less. However the Taxes here in Alaska at least in Anchorage are crazy, it adds up to 5.50 in taxes per pack. For now I smoke Camel Filters two dollars cheaper and not to bad as long as I don't chain smoke.
On November 22 2011 12:00 Unifex wrote: Could anyone recommend a web site to buy cheaper cigarettes online? The prices just went up again in NYC and it's becoming absurd.
I tried googling but a lot of them seem like sketchy eastern european sites.
I would give you the site that I order mine form when I have something worthy of a cigar coming up but it is only cuban cigars so not good for people in the US I did google cigars online for US and there are quite a few sites that sell them at solid prices, just go google it and you should find something reasonable
He was asking about cigarettes, which are hard to get over the internet in the US.
For cigars, I buy mine from cigar.com. They've got a pretty solid selection and very reasonable prices. They're also constantly doing offers for free shipping, daily deals, weekend specials, etc. The forum community there is also pretty helpful.
That looks like a solid site. Any cigar people recommend a good maduro cigar? I've normally shied away from the darker wrappers for fear they might be too strong to me. I'm normally a more mild cigar smoker that enjoys the sweeter smoke vs the slight harsher/coffee flavored smoke that come sometimes with Maduro's. Looking to branch out though so any recommendations are welcome.
The maduro I recommend to absolutely everyone who's trying to expand their cigar tastes is Rocky Patel's Edge Maduro. It's a serious cigar at a reasonable price. It's sweeter, so you don't have to worry about a "harsher" (by which I assume you mean either peppery or earthy) flavors that some maduros have.
If you're just trying to get into maduros, a standard old Macanudo Maduro never hurt anyone. It likely wont be something you'll choose as a go-to cigar in the future, but it's a decent intro.
Otherwise, for starters, either the COA Brazilia or Italia are accessible smokes. A standard Arturo Fuente Maduro or Hoyo Honduran maduro or Dark Sumatra are also really good choices. La Gloria Cubana Serie R is also a good starter.
Don't be intimidated. If you experienced unpleasant harshness the last time you smoked a maduro, your probably just had a bad (either poor quality or poor condition) cigar. I've picked some pretty safe ones, but you should really branch out from there. If you're buying at a local shop, don't hesitate to ask for recommendations.
On November 22 2011 12:00 Unifex wrote: Could anyone recommend a web site to buy cheaper cigarettes online? The prices just went up again in NYC and it's becoming absurd.
I tried googling but a lot of them seem like sketchy eastern european sites.
I would give you the site that I order mine form when I have something worthy of a cigar coming up but it is only cuban cigars so not good for people in the US I did google cigars online for US and there are quite a few sites that sell them at solid prices, just go google it and you should find something reasonable
He was asking about cigarettes, which are hard to get over the internet in the US.
For cigars, I buy mine from cigar.com. They've got a pretty solid selection and very reasonable prices. They're also constantly doing offers for free shipping, daily deals, weekend specials, etc. The forum community there is also pretty helpful.
That looks like a solid site. Any cigar people recommend a good maduro cigar? I've normally shied away from the darker wrappers for fear they might be too strong to me. I'm normally a more mild cigar smoker that enjoys the sweeter smoke vs the slight harsher/coffee flavored smoke that come sometimes with Maduro's. Looking to branch out though so any recommendations are welcome.
The maduro I recommend to absolutely everyone who's trying to expand their cigar tastes is Rocky Patel's Edge Maduro. It's a serious cigar at a reasonable price. It's sweeter, so you don't have to worry about a "harsher" (by which I assume you mean either peppery or earthy) flavors that some maduros have.
If you're just trying to get into maduros, a standard old Macanudo Maduro never hurt anyone. It likely wont be something you'll choose as a go-to cigar in the future, but it's a decent intro.
Otherwise, for starters, either the COA Brazilia or Italia are accessible smokes. A standard Arturo Fuente Maduro or Hoyo Honduran maduro or Dark Sumatra are also really good choices. La Gloria Cubana Serie R is also a good starter.
Don't be intimidated. If you experienced unpleasant harshness the last time you smoked a maduro, your probably just had a bad (either poor quality or poor condition) cigar. I've picked some pretty safe ones, but you should really branch out from there. If you're buying at a local shop, don't hesitate to ask for recommendations.
Thank you very much! I'll head to my local smoke shop and see about that Rocky Patel you recommended. I've had awesome experiences with the RP Connecticut Cigar and look forward to trying the Maduro.
On November 22 2011 12:00 Unifex wrote: Could anyone recommend a web site to buy cheaper cigarettes online? The prices just went up again in NYC and it's becoming absurd.
I tried googling but a lot of them seem like sketchy eastern european sites.
I would give you the site that I order mine form when I have something worthy of a cigar coming up but it is only cuban cigars so not good for people in the US I did google cigars online for US and there are quite a few sites that sell them at solid prices, just go google it and you should find something reasonable
He was asking about cigarettes, which are hard to get over the internet in the US.
For cigars, I buy mine from cigar.com. They've got a pretty solid selection and very reasonable prices. They're also constantly doing offers for free shipping, daily deals, weekend specials, etc. The forum community there is also pretty helpful.
That looks like a solid site. Any cigar people recommend a good maduro cigar? I've normally shied away from the darker wrappers for fear they might be too strong to me. I'm normally a more mild cigar smoker that enjoys the sweeter smoke vs the slight harsher/coffee flavored smoke that come sometimes with Maduro's. Looking to branch out though so any recommendations are welcome.
The maduro I recommend to absolutely everyone who's trying to expand their cigar tastes is Rocky Patel's Edge Maduro. It's a serious cigar at a reasonable price. It's sweeter, so you don't have to worry about a "harsher" (by which I assume you mean either peppery or earthy) flavors that some maduros have.
If you're just trying to get into maduros, a standard old Macanudo Maduro never hurt anyone. It likely wont be something you'll choose as a go-to cigar in the future, but it's a decent intro.
Otherwise, for starters, either the COA Brazilia or Italia are accessible smokes. A standard Arturo Fuente Maduro or Hoyo Honduran maduro or Dark Sumatra are also really good choices. La Gloria Cubana Serie R is also a good starter.
Don't be intimidated. If you experienced unpleasant harshness the last time you smoked a maduro, your probably just had a bad (either poor quality or poor condition) cigar. I've picked some pretty safe ones, but you should really branch out from there. If you're buying at a local shop, don't hesitate to ask for recommendations.
Thank you very much! I'll head to my local smoke shop and see about that Rocky Patel you recommended. I've had awesome experiences with the RP Connecticut Cigar and look forward to trying the Maduro.
If you like the Rocky Patel Connecticut, try the 5 Vegas Gold (which, come to think of it, also comes in a maduro). It's a pretty similar cigar at a better price. Frankly, even though I don't smoke many Connecticuts, I prefer it.
On November 22 2011 17:59 SirAnnihilate wrote: I have an interesting gripe where I have to smoke after every long game of Starcraft (30min+). Not really an issue, but after a laddering session I can seriously damage my tobacco stock. Since It's purely for the stress relief (I think!) would it be worth buying cheaper tobacco for that specific use? Unlike when I normally smoke (rolls, Golden Virginia) I dont get half as much enjoyment out of it and seem to burn through it at a heroic pace.
Anyone had a similar experience, not nessecarily Starcraft? Would it be worth buying cheap crap like Sky blue or Red Band for the sole purpose of smoking after laddering? Or would the change from the norm offset my fix and become wasted money?
Cheers, Annihilate
Buy an electronic cigarette. They are great for this kind of thing, where you crave for a smoke but are already tired of it after a couple draws (since you smoked one 10 mines before already). They are also cheaper than tobacco
Yeah it does look like a painting. The cigar was beautiful. From the construction to the classic look of the band it was nice. It was leathery/earthy till about the 2/3 mark where I detected a very subtle fruity undertone. It seemed to be on the back step of every draw, barely being recognized by my palette but it was very nice. No dramatic changes in flavor, a very consistent cigar.
good post mate, i enjoy smoking in almost all its forms, we all need our little evil pleasures right? hookah is very good way to puff but ive always found it to be too far from tobacco and the best way is in a pipe in my mind mix some nice high quality pipe tobacco with a bit of sage and you have th emost delicious smelling smoke ever
On November 22 2011 17:59 SirAnnihilate wrote: I have an interesting gripe where I have to smoke after every long game of Starcraft (30min+). Not really an issue, but after a laddering session I can seriously damage my tobacco stock. Since It's purely for the stress relief (I think!) would it be worth buying cheaper tobacco for that specific use? Unlike when I normally smoke (rolls, Golden Virginia) I dont get half as much enjoyment out of it and seem to burn through it at a heroic pace.
Anyone had a similar experience, not nessecarily Starcraft? Would it be worth buying cheap crap like Sky blue or Red Band for the sole purpose of smoking after laddering? Or would the change from the norm offset my fix and become wasted money?
Cheers, Annihilate
I'm having the same issue here, only with LoL instead of SC2. I go for a smoke between every single game, which is much more often than I smoke when I'm not playing. Would be interesting to hear if someone could come up with a good solution for this. Either some way to stop this behaviour or some way to make it cheaper ^^
On September 04 2011 03:18 PureMetal wrote: I'm not a big fan of smoking, I get sick and have too much of a head rush if I take more than a drag. Tried dipping too, I can stand some Skoal apple but that's about it. Again too much of a head rush to be pleasurable and a bit messy.
But I love Camel Snus. Any other fans out there? You don't need to spit and you get a pleasant buzz that lasts. Awesome for work and long class days.
Cool, wasn't even aware that snus existed in the US. Haven't tried Camel Snus, not sure if I can buy it here in Sweden. I have tried pretty much every brand of swedish snus though. I find it to last much longer than a cigarette does, but the taste is something that takes a while to appreciate.
Do you happen to know how long snus has existed in the US? I know you have the regular chewing tobacco, but this is the first time I see something that seems to be identical to our beloved (many would disagree on that point ^^) snus.
I'd guess camel snus has been around for a while. Is your snus flavored in sweden? camel frost is super minty
Not really, there are some flavors, but I just stick to the stronger standard ones most of the time. Don't think I've ever tried minty or fruity snus. Just a lot of tobacco <3
On November 22 2011 17:59 SirAnnihilate wrote: I have an interesting gripe where I have to smoke after every long game of Starcraft (30min+). Not really an issue, but after a laddering session I can seriously damage my tobacco stock. Since It's purely for the stress relief (I think!) would it be worth buying cheaper tobacco for that specific use? Unlike when I normally smoke (rolls, Golden Virginia) I dont get half as much enjoyment out of it and seem to burn through it at a heroic pace.
Anyone had a similar experience, not nessecarily Starcraft? Would it be worth buying cheap crap like Sky blue or Red Band for the sole purpose of smoking after laddering? Or would the change from the norm offset my fix and become wasted money?
Cheers, Annihilate
I'm having the same issue here, only with LoL instead of SC2. I go for a smoke between every single game, which is much more often than I smoke when I'm not playing. Would be interesting to hear if someone could come up with a good solution for this. Either some way to stop this behaviour or some way to make it cheaper ^^
It sounds like you've associates smoking with a specific activity (gaming) and now you do them together without thinking (and at an accelerated pace). It's like how some people always smoke when they drive, drink coffee, drink liquor, or after a meal, but not that often other times during the day. If that's the case, your best bet is to completely prevent yourself from smoking at all while gaming. Try to disassociate the activities from one another.
Have a smoke before you sit down and when you finish, but put the cigarettes out of reach while you're playing. Get up and go outside, or step into a different room if you need a smoke during a gaming session. If it's reasonable, don't ever smoke while you're at your desk at all.
On November 22 2011 17:59 SirAnnihilate wrote: I have an interesting gripe where I have to smoke after every long game of Starcraft (30min+). Not really an issue, but after a laddering session I can seriously damage my tobacco stock. Since It's purely for the stress relief (I think!) would it be worth buying cheaper tobacco for that specific use? Unlike when I normally smoke (rolls, Golden Virginia) I dont get half as much enjoyment out of it and seem to burn through it at a heroic pace.
Anyone had a similar experience, not nessecarily Starcraft? Would it be worth buying cheap crap like Sky blue or Red Band for the sole purpose of smoking after laddering? Or would the change from the norm offset my fix and become wasted money?
Cheers, Annihilate
I'm having the same issue here, only with LoL instead of SC2. I go for a smoke between every single game, which is much more often than I smoke when I'm not playing. Would be interesting to hear if someone could come up with a good solution for this. Either some way to stop this behaviour or some way to make it cheaper ^^
I used to have this problem, but with soda. So I decided to stop buying more than a 6 pack a week of soda. It's simple!
The pipe smoking guide was really interesting. I bought one on my 18th birthday mostly for the sake of exercising my newly gained right. I've smoked it a few times but I didn't read into it at all and my experience wasn't the best. It probably has a lot to do with the fact that I bought a shitty pipe at a drug store and shitty tobacco along with it. Is there any particular blend that could be considered a good starting point? Its not my intention to become a frequent smoker but I'd like to have the proper pipe smoking experience.
On November 23 2011 18:49 Immaterial wrote: The pipe smoking guide was really interesting. I bought one on my 18th birthday mostly for the sake of exercising my newly gained right. I've smoked it a few times but I didn't read into it at all and my experience wasn't the best. It probably has a lot to do with the fact that I bought a shitty pipe at a drug store and shitty tobacco along with it. Is there any particular blend that could be considered a good starting point? Its not my intention to become a frequent smoker but I'd like to have the proper pipe smoking experience.
If you're buying from a local shop, you may be limited by what they have to offer. Ask for help at the shop, and don't be afraid to try some while you're there (many shops allow free samples). This is a review site I've used in the past.
On November 23 2011 18:49 Immaterial wrote: The pipe smoking guide was really interesting. I bought one on my 18th birthday mostly for the sake of exercising my newly gained right. I've smoked it a few times but I didn't read into it at all and my experience wasn't the best. It probably has a lot to do with the fact that I bought a shitty pipe at a drug store and shitty tobacco along with it. Is there any particular blend that could be considered a good starting point? Its not my intention to become a frequent smoker but I'd like to have the proper pipe smoking experience.
The best advice to a new smoker is to invest in a good quality pipe. The cheaper drug store pipes turn away more new smokers than they attract because they smoke hot, wet and since the quality of the briar they use in them is the lowest possible they also tend to make tobacco taste bad.
Also, learning to smoke a pipe is has a very long curve. You will have 20 bad smokes before you "get" what your supposed to do and how to manage the burn. Don't give up, you will have a "holy shit" moment when the tobacco suddenly starts tasting like whipped cream then changing to chocolate brownies and finally finishing off with the taste of a camp fire.
As far as tobacco goes there are so many good quality tobaccos to choose from on the market today. There are 5 general types of pipe tobaccos which have unique flavors and smoking qualities. Tobacco is like grapes used for wine making, the soil, sun, water and other environmental conditions affect the outcome of the crops grown.
1) Virginia tobacco - made with pure Virginia tobacco leaf with the best blends being pressed. Most are stoved or lightly steamed by the manufacturer. The pressing helps to meld the leaves together and "ages" the tobacco without actually using time to mature the leaf. The more mature the blend is the better the quality becomes when stored and sealed properly.
Samuel Gawath's Full Virginia Flake is an example of a pure Virginia tobacco. G.L. Pease Jack Knife Plug is also excellent!
2) Burley tobacco - made with tobaccos grown in Virgina, Kentucky, Tennesee and from other parts of the world. These blends are generally air dried in barns and do not go through any other types of processing other than cutting before being packed into tins.
Prince Albert is a common and tasty burley tobacco. Good for beginners as it behaves in a pipe quite nicely.
3) English blends - made with Virginia, Latakia(both Cyrian and Syrian), Turkish and possibly other oriental leaf. English tobaccos get their flavoring from the Latakia tobacco which is processed by "flue curing"(basically drying the tobacco over a bon-fire) which adds a very nice smokey taste over all. I believe that English tobaccos are difficult for beginners to enjoy because the flavor and smoking qualities are more difficult to appreciate as a new smoker. But like many other things in life, many pipe smokers evolve their palate over time from the more simple straight burley tobaccos to the more sophisticated English blends.
Peter Stokkebye's Balken Supreme is a very good English at a reasonable price. Esoterica's Penzance is the best tobacco ever produced and is an English, but demand is so high that it has not been available for a couple of years.
4) VaPers blends - made with Virginia tobaccos and include a small portion of perique tobacco. The perique tobacco has a unique flavor and is only grown in the St James Parish in Louisiana. I have little experience with Va/Pers, but the ones I did smoke were good, but not great.
Escudo or Samuel Gawath's St James Flake are examples of Va/Pers.
5) Aromatics - made with all types of tobaccos and are generally heavily cased(sprayed with sugar, honey, anise, etc). Generally the most popular smoke with new smokers because you can get some very tasty smoking tobaccos in the aromatic category. Beware aromatics as they burn very hot because the smoke point of the casing is usually higher than the smoke point of the tobacco causing tongue bite(pain).
A popular aromatic is Captain Black.
All in all you can't go wrong with Virginias and English blends, IMO! Always buy tinned tobacco until you find a tobacco that you enjoy, then it is possible to buy it in bulk. Generally if the tobacco is tinned then they believe that the leaf is worth packaging where if it is from a pouch it will not have the highest quality standards.
4noggins.com has a very good selection of quality tobaccos.
On November 22 2011 20:18 ePdeLay wrote: the ones you roll up are worse then normal packet cigarettes because they have no filter
Do you have any actual statistics on the cancer rates of filters vs non-filters? I don't think I've ever seen any and every time I see some anti-smoking campaign booth set up anywhere I ask them for statistics and they don't have any answers.
Kind of off topic, but I just bought my first pack of cigarettes yesterday, and I thought I'd share with some of you guys. They're Marlboro Lights, a good newbie smoke I think.
I gotta admit, being the health freak that I am (work out consistently, healthy/balanced diet), I never thought I'd get into something like cigarettes. But it is just so relaxing to have a smoke after a meal, and start my homework with a little buzz and good music.
I hope to keep it 1 cig a day and no more, and none at all when there aren't any deadlines or exams.
Yes, I agree with everyone that says I shouldn't do this. But my god, had I ever known eleven dollars could offer so much pleasure.
On November 30 2011 08:35 ZiegFeld wrote: Kind of off topic, but I just bought my first pack of cigarettes yesterday, and I thought I'd share with some of you guys. They're Marlboro Lights, a good newbie smoke I think.
I gotta admit, being the health freak that I am (work out consistently, healthy/balanced diet), I never thought I'd get into something like cigarettes. But it is just so relaxing to have a smoke after a meal, and start my homework with a little buzz and good music.
I hope to keep it 1 cig a day and no more, and none at all when there aren't any deadlines or exams.
Yes, I agree with everyone that says I shouldn't do this. But my god, had I ever known eleven dollars could offer so much pleasure.
you can say the same for a ball of crack for 10 bucks my god what pleasure. if you still can stop it. quit smoking for a half year back on now T T
On November 30 2011 08:35 ZiegFeld wrote: Kind of off topic, but I just bought my first pack of cigarettes yesterday, and I thought I'd share with some of you guys. They're Marlboro Lights, a good newbie smoke I think.
I gotta admit, being the health freak that I am (work out consistently, healthy/balanced diet), I never thought I'd get into something like cigarettes. But it is just so relaxing to have a smoke after a meal, and start my homework with a little buzz and good music.
I hope to keep it 1 cig a day and no more, and none at all when there aren't any deadlines or exams.
Yes, I agree with everyone that says I shouldn't do this. But my god, had I ever known eleven dollars could offer so much pleasure.
you can say the same for a ball of crack for 10 bucks my god what pleasure. if you still can stop it. quit smoking for a half year back on now T T
A ball of crack doesn't last you a month though
Honestly, as long as I brush my teeth and maintain my workout, I don't think this is so bad.
On November 22 2011 20:18 ePdeLay wrote: the ones you roll up are worse then normal packet cigarettes because they have no filter
Do you have any actual statistics on the cancer rates of filters vs non-filters? I don't think I've ever seen any and every time I see some anti-smoking campaign booth set up anywhere I ask them for statistics and they don't have any answers.
Well you can get filters for the roll-your-own ones. I generally prefer them because they are made of tobacco instead of a bunch of random stuff which makes it burn slower and taste better, it is not really a health issue.
On November 30 2011 08:35 ZiegFeld wrote: Kind of off topic, but I just bought my first pack of cigarettes yesterday, and I thought I'd share with some of you guys. They're Marlboro Lights, a good newbie smoke I think.
I gotta admit, being the health freak that I am (work out consistently, healthy/balanced diet), I never thought I'd get into something like cigarettes. But it is just so relaxing to have a smoke after a meal, and start my homework with a little buzz and good music.
I hope to keep it 1 cig a day and no more, and none at all when there aren't any deadlines or exams.
Yes, I agree with everyone that says I shouldn't do this. But my god, had I ever known eleven dollars could offer so much pleasure.
you can say the same for a ball of crack for 10 bucks my god what pleasure. if you still can stop it. quit smoking for a half year back on now T T
A ball of crack doesn't last you a month though
Honestly, as long as I brush my teeth and maintain my workout, I don't think this is so bad.
Sorry to say bro, but white teeth and nice abs do not counter carcinogens.
EDIT: I also learned a fun fact. Apparently, the pleasant "buzz" you are getting is your brain starving for oxygen due to constricting blood vessels. The more you know!
A professor once gave me a deep piece of wisdom. He said (this may or may not be somewhat embellished), "Liberals smoke cigarettes, conservatives smoke cigars, [brilliant folk] smoke pipes."
I started smoking when at high school, because it was kinda cool. But about one year later, I felt it is undermining my health. I was unable to run very fast of for a long time, I was coughing a lot and I felt worse overall. So I quit and I started to do some sports, but some of my friends kept smoking and you can really see how their health progresses over years.
Anyway I still buy like 2 packs/year to survive the exam period. I have like 1 cigarette before exam and one after.
So when I buy them cigarettes, I buy camels (took me really long time to find out the right brand for me)
I dont buy cigars, but they are sometimes given to me as a gift (birthday and stuff)
And my roommate is some kinda of Hookah club member and know everything about them, so he prepares really good Hookas. I try to smoke as few Hookas as possible, but me and my roommates throw a party from time to time so I have a go here and there. Well and about smoking pipes...I understand how people can like them, but it is kinda meh for me.
Oh man I am trying to live healthy, but now when I am reading this, I smoke A LOT.
OP: It can make you look pretty cool, but Clind Eastwood smokes that one cigar the whole movie , sharing it with Eli Wallach. So basically, he is just holding a cigar in his mouth for several days.
Been smoking more hookah lately, my favourite shisha flavour by far is al fhaker two apple. Its very fun to experiment though, cherry+cola is nice, as is apple+orange, and for a real eye-watering kick try grape+mint+chocolate. Some dont turn out nice at all though.
I really want to try unwashed tobacco, but dont know where to find it here in aus. Was reading on some arab smoking forums that its meant to be much more pure/traditional, like drinking straight whiskey instead of pre-mixed cans.
Apart from that im just sticking to my port royal wine+rum pouch tobacco, cigarettes are becomming stupidly expensive (upwards of $12 for a pack of 20 really bad cigarettes) in Australia so experimentation is basically not a possibility on my wage.
To all the people crying, smoking tobacco or any product thereof is a choice. If you are not prepared for the consequences simply don't start or quit now. Please allow every individual to make their own choice.
in my honest opinion i believe americans have much worse habits than smoking. I smoke and i run every day. Just ran a 5k turkey trot on thanksgiving in 22 minutes. I laugh when ppl tell me that smoking is bad especially when they are overweight. I eat healthy, exercise my body both aerobically and anaerobically and have never had any health issues. Smoking is bad when you combine it was a poor diet and lack of overall physical activity. When i was younger I worked at a starbucks and while enjoying a cig on my 10 minute break an extremely fat lady with a large frap was leaving the starbucks and felt the need to tell me "smoking will kill you". Had i been a lesser person i would have replied, "obesity causes heart-attacks" or something along those lines. In my opinion ordering a meal from a fast food restaurant is worse than buying a pack of smokes. I happen to enjoy cigs, preferably camels or marlboros. And honestly.....who wants to live to be a hundred?? chances are at that age you wont even be able to wipe your own butt
On November 30 2011 14:20 Disarm22 wrote: in my honest opinion i believe americans have much worse habits than smoking. I smoke and i run every day. Just ran a 5k turkey trot on thanksgiving in 22 minutes. I laugh when ppl tell me that smoking is bad especially when they are overweight. I eat healthy, exercise my body both aerobically and anaerobically and have never had any health issues. Smoking is bad when you combine it was a poor diet and lack of overall physical activity. When i was younger I worked at a starbucks and while enjoying a cig on my 10 minute break an extremely fat lady with a large frap was leaving the starbucks and felt the need to tell me "smoking will kill you". Had i been a lesser person i would have replied, "obesity causes heart-attacks" or something along those lines. In my opinion ordering a meal from a fast food restaurant is worse than buying a pack of smokes. I happen to enjoy cigs, preferably camels or marlboros. And honestly.....who wants to live to be a hundred?? chances are at that age you wont even be able to wipe your own butt
I mean dood, rationalize it however you need.... but smoking is objectively bad for you.... you would be more healthy if you didn't smoke.
OT: An occasional Cigar with a smokey glass of scotch by a camp fire.... good times indeed.
I am what I would call a seasonal tobacco smoker, I smoke from about november to january every year, Since I lost the vast majority of my taste buds as a child, I tend to smoke cigarettes almost exclusively. I'm from northwestern Ontario and I smoke Players as it seems to give me the best buzz of all the cheap behind the counter cigs.
I mostly smoke because it really helps remove stress and at my job it tends to get super busy around the time I smoke, and thats also when there are lots of exams in uni.
I dislike the general need people feel to tell you to stop smoking. I think everyone is aware of the danger and people still feel obligated to tell us that we are killing ourselves, even thought they have their own terrible habits that can/will kill them early. I find after smoking I am able to work harder and I feel better (especially starting up in november, hello headrushes!) also I find that I am much more sociable after smoking.
I unlike most people however have enough willpower to just quit cold turkey, it was the same thing with pot, I smoked it all throughout high school extremely regularly, but after high school I realized how much money I was spending on it then just stopped. I quit literally every year and maybe I don't have the 20 year habit addictive, my body is dependant on nicotine every year.
Smoking is probably the worst habit you could have, but it is so terribly demonized. I mean you can't advertise cigarettes in NA except for in magazines and you always have to catch flack from some self-righteous sheltered idiot for smoking. Eating exclusively fatty foods and not exercising is probably literally the second worst habit possible, but you don't see people outside McDonalds or BK or whatever telling people they are killing themselves and you ALWAYS see Mcdonald's commercials.
I think for the most part smoking is demonized because when it came into prominence Doctor's said it was good for you and our parents generation had to watch most of their parents die because of it, and thus causing an emotional backed crusade (worst kind). I think that the generation of kids of our children will demonize fast food because they will watch their grandparents die to obesity/heart disease.
I've quit not too long ago, but this is not going to be a "never start" or "QUIT NOW!" post.
I've read a few posts in this thread where people said that when rolling your own you really have to want one, or that after rolling for a while they got annoyed with it and started asking friends for "real" cigarettes.
At first I mainly switched for financial reasons, because cigarettes got more and more expensive. It's also true that at first it was a bit annoying, but after a short while two things happened.
1. Rolling became so much second nature that "only smoking when I really want one" didn't really apply to me. I could roll anywhere and anytime. While walking in the wind or rain, you name it.
2. Even though my financial situation got better I didn't want to switch back to "real" cigarettes. They tasted like shit. Way, way, WAY to dry and (for lack of a better word) "crunchy". Also they burned down in what felt like a nanosecond if you wouldn't constantly drag on them. Tobacco (even though I smoked a rather strong halfzware) tastes way smoother, and it kinda even feels like you're moisturizing your throat and lungs while smoking.
I can only recommend everyone who smokes regular cigarettes to give tobacco a try (you can, like I did, roll in filters). If you stick to it for a little bit you won't look back.
On November 30 2011 18:08 SACtheXchng wrote: I've quit not too long ago, but this is not going to be a "never start" or "QUIT NOW!" post.
I've read a few posts in this thread where people said that when rolling your own you really have to want one, or that after rolling for a while they got annoyed with it and started asking friends for "real" cigarettes.
At first I mainly switched for financial reasons, because cigarettes got more and more expensive. It's also true that at first it was a bit annoying, but after a short while two things happened.
1. Rolling became so much second nature that "only smoking when I really want one" didn't really apply to me. I could roll anywhere and anytime. While walking in the wind or rain, you name it.
2. Even though my financial situation got better I didn't want to switch back to "real" cigarettes. They tasted like shit. Way, way, WAY to dry and (for lack of a better word) "crunchy". Also they burned down in what felt like a nanosecond if you wouldn't constantly drag on them. Tobacco (even though I smoked a rather strong halfzware) tastes way smoother, and it kinda even feels like you're moisturizing your throat and lungs while smoking.
I can only recommend everyone who smoked regular cigarettes to give tobacco a try (you can, like I did, roll in filters). If you stick to it for a little bit you won't look back.
Shit! Now I seriously want to smoke one :D
Must...
Remain...
Strong!!!
I have to agree; though I switched back to real cigarettes some years ago - just being too lazy. Just judging the taste, rolled ones can be so much better, since you can deceide for yourself how much tobacco you want in them and influence how fast they burn down too.
As a coincidence: The brand you smokes 7 years ago, is the one I smoke now
i only smoke water pipe, or Hooka as you call it... But i do it like 10 times a year and it is basicly only for the nice taste. Then maybe a cigarr on new years eve, but i don't think i have to worry about that ^^
On November 30 2011 13:09 beg wrote: it's amazing how cigarettes have fucked my health up. to the point where i think i might have cancer, but i'm afraid to go to the doctor.
oh yea, wrong place to talk about stuff like that. oops. sorry. not. smoking is bullshit.
It takes decades and decades to develop cancer from smoking so unless your in your 50's i think you can relax
havent smoked any tobacco in quit some time now, usually smoke a cigar every now and then (maybe 1 a month or so) even though they're soo goood
On November 30 2011 18:08 SACtheXchng wrote: I've quit not too long ago, but this is not going to be a "never start" or "QUIT NOW!" post.
I've read a few posts in this thread where people said that when rolling your own you really have to want one, or that after rolling for a while they got annoyed with it and started asking friends for "real" cigarettes.
At first I mainly switched for financial reasons, because cigarettes got more and more expensive. It's also true that at first it was a bit annoying, but after a short while two things happened.
1. Rolling became so much second nature that "only smoking when I really want one" didn't really apply to me. I could roll anywhere and anytime. While walking in the wind or rain, you name it.
2. Even though my financial situation got better I didn't want to switch back to "real" cigarettes. They tasted like shit. Way, way, WAY to dry and (for lack of a better word) "crunchy". Also they burned down in what felt like a nanosecond if you wouldn't constantly drag on them. Tobacco (even though I smoked a rather strong halfzware) tastes way smoother, and it kinda even feels like you're moisturizing your throat and lungs while smoking.
I can only recommend everyone who smoked regular cigarettes to give tobacco a try (you can, like I did, roll in filters). If you stick to it for a little bit you won't look back.
Shit! Now I seriously want to smoke one :D
Must...
Remain...
Strong!!!
I have to agree; though I switched back to real cigarettes some years ago - just being too lazy. Just judging the taste, rolled ones can be so much better, since you can deceide for yourself how much tobacco you want in them and influence how fast they burn down too.
As a coincidence: The brand you smokes 7 years ago, is the one I smoke now
Yeah, I was at like 1.5 packs/day of those back when I switched, LOL. How much do you pay these days for a pack of those in Germany (I'm German too btw)?
A pack of Drum is 5.50€ plus papers and filters I usually paid around 7€ per 1.5 days or so.
I honestly don't even care that much about health reasons when thinking about smoking, since the world we live in poisons us anyways and in numerous ways, but having ~140€ more per month is actually a nice thing now that I have quit
Personally I only smoke when drinking or when hanging out with friends that do smoke, it's just too expensive these days. You only live once, why not do the things you enjoy.
On November 30 2011 09:41 BoxedLunch wrote: so... I started smoking when I got out of high school, and smoked for about 2 years.
Then I quit cold turkey for a girl I was dating last year.
Yesterday, job stress and anxiety got the better of me, and I caved and bought a pack of smokes. advice TL?
Yes, check out this book called "The Easyway to Stop Smoking" By Allen Carr. It basically dispels the illusion that smokers enjoy smoking, that smoking relives stress, and a host of other illusions that people have been brainwashed into by the tobacco companies. I checked it out at the library and I don't even smoke but I read most of it but 2 chapters and it is highly enlightening.
Me, i got laid so many times thanks to cigarettes, met so many new people, became much more relaxed (stop biting my nails) and it's the best excuse ever now if you want to leave or just take a break from anything.
And now that we get so much hate it's even easier to bound with fellow smokers outside.
On November 30 2011 09:41 BoxedLunch wrote: so... I started smoking when I got out of high school, and smoked for about 2 years.
Then I quit cold turkey for a girl I was dating last year.
Yesterday, job stress and anxiety got the better of me, and I caved and bought a pack of smokes. advice TL?
Yes, check out this book called "The Easyway to Stop Smoking" By Allen Carr. It basically dispels the illusion that smokers enjoy smoking, that smoking relives stress, and a host of other illusions that people have been brainwashed into by the tobacco companies. I checked it out at the library and I don't even smoke but I read most of it but 2 chapters and it is highly enlightening.
Those books are funny actually. And guys not smoking talking about brain washing and how to quit somking lol. Smoking does relieve stress, "tickles" the brain in a good way, makes you more calm. Also nicotine IS a drug. And as any drug, when you use it you develop dependency. I managed to quit because I wanted to do it and just decided that "if others can, am I weaker? wtf". It wasn't easy, and the first 2 weeks are a pain (with peaks around 3-5th days). No, not because of the brain washing tobacco companies did on me. You just PHYSICALLY feel a lot of stuff. You find yourself getting nervous about almost anything. You can't sit down for 1 seconds. You go through a lot of anxiety periods. But with strong will you can do it.
On November 30 2011 09:41 BoxedLunch wrote: so... I started smoking when I got out of high school, and smoked for about 2 years.
Then I quit cold turkey for a girl I was dating last year.
Yesterday, job stress and anxiety got the better of me, and I caved and bought a pack of smokes. advice TL?
Yes, check out this book called "The Easyway to Stop Smoking" By Allen Carr. It basically dispels the illusion that smokers enjoy smoking, that smoking relives stress, and a host of other illusions that people have been brainwashed into by the tobacco companies. I checked it out at the library and I don't even smoke but I read most of it but 2 chapters and it is highly enlightening.
Those books are funny actually. And guys not smoking talking about brain washing and how to quit somking lol. Smoking does relieve stress, "tickles" the brain in a good way, makes you more calm. Also nicotine IS a drug. And as any drug, when you use it you develop dependency. I managed to quit because I wanted to do it and just decided that "if others can, am I weaker? wtf". It wasn't easy, and the first 2 weeks are a pain (with peaks around 3-5th days). No, not because of the brain washing tobacco companies did on me. You just PHYSICALLY feel a lot of stuff. You find yourself getting nervous about almost anything. You can't sit down for 1 seconds. You go through a lot of anxiety periods. But with strong will you can do it.
Smoking does not relieve stress, it causes stress. How does smoke going into your lungs relieve stress? It does not. You are suffocating yourself when you smoke, is suffocation not stressful? Isn't it stressful that your muscles and organs can't get the air that they need? I don't know about you but I wouldn't feel too calm if I am suffocating. Smoking is a drug addiction, not a genuine crutch. It does not help anyone but in fact destroys lives.
On December 01 2011 00:50 Kaozpanna wrote: Started smoking a couple of months ago. I see it mostly as a social thing or just too relax. I usually smoke marlboro or prince.
Thinking of switching to "snus" though.
Snus is great. Allows you to be much more discreet in your tobacco use. The buzz off the first couple is amazing.
On November 30 2011 09:41 BoxedLunch wrote: so... I started smoking when I got out of high school, and smoked for about 2 years.
Then I quit cold turkey for a girl I was dating last year.
Yesterday, job stress and anxiety got the better of me, and I caved and bought a pack of smokes. advice TL?
Yes, check out this book called "The Easyway to Stop Smoking" By Allen Carr. It basically dispels the illusion that smokers enjoy smoking, that smoking relives stress, and a host of other illusions that people have been brainwashed into by the tobacco companies. I checked it out at the library and I don't even smoke but I read most of it but 2 chapters and it is highly enlightening.
Those books are funny actually. And guys not smoking talking about brain washing and how to quit somking lol. Smoking does relieve stress, "tickles" the brain in a good way, makes you more calm. Also nicotine IS a drug. And as any drug, when you use it you develop dependency. I managed to quit because I wanted to do it and just decided that "if others can, am I weaker? wtf". It wasn't easy, and the first 2 weeks are a pain (with peaks around 3-5th days). No, not because of the brain washing tobacco companies did on me. You just PHYSICALLY feel a lot of stuff. You find yourself getting nervous about almost anything. You can't sit down for 1 seconds. You go through a lot of anxiety periods. But with strong will you can do it.
Smoking does not relieve stress, it causes stress. How does smoke going into your lungs relieve stress? It does not. You are suffocating yourself when you smoke, is suffocation not stressful? Isn't it stressful that your muscles and organs can't get the air that they need? I don't know about you but I wouldn't feel too calm if I am suffocating. Smoking is a drug addiction, not a genuine crutch. It does not help anyone but in fact destroys lives.
You are aware that nicotine is pychoactive though, right? With psychoactive substances all kinds of shit can happen. What you should be feeling and what your brain makes you feel are not always the same
I smoked marijuana for years (and still do! ) before I started smoking cigarettes, mainly because I felt like the hand to mouth fixation i already had with marijuana had gotten out of hand and i was just really high all the time. So when I picked up smoking cigarettes, yes I knew it was dumb but at the time I was just looking for something else to smoke that isn't as expensive or mind altering as marijuana. Another thing that was going through my mind when I picked up smoking is that I have a difficult time socializing with people at work/school and I was desperate to change that when I moved to where I'm living now. Taking a smoke break with a classmate/coworker gives ample time to get to know them in a situation where I don't feel like I'm bothering them. I know it's sick to basically kill myself to feel comfortable in social situations but that's just what was going through my head at the time.
Don't judge smokers too hard, we all know it's dumb and we spend a lot of time thinking about why we're out there having a cigarette and questioning our inner thought process about it.
I once to a lab chem class in college with a guy who was a heavy smoker (had to leave several times during a 4 hour lab) and we talked about it once. I have no problem with it and had a 4 year relationship with a smoker so I dont come from a hostile place and he said something to the effect of "it makes you smell, your teeth and nails yellow and your skin age but you dont know what you are missing". I took it to mean that smoking is just like adding a new necessary desire like going to the bathroom or eating. We have all been in that place when you have to go to the bathroom so bad you might explode and when you finally go it is the best thing in the world. Smoking becomes just another one of those things...
the great thing about smoking is that you can make people show up o_O
you are waiting for someone,he is not on time,you decide to have another cigarette while waiting->bam,he shows up! don't know why but it has happened to me so often,it actually is ridiculous. works for public transport too,but only if you don't think about it.
another thing if i have a hard time finding a solution for a problem,don't know how to continue with whatever,i like having a cigarette to calm down and normally the solution pops up during that time.
Is there a brand of smokes in Canada that's not as disgusting as Belmont or Marlboros? It's not that they're too harsh, but the smell it leaves on clothes and my fingers is unbearable.
On November 30 2011 09:41 BoxedLunch wrote: so... I started smoking when I got out of high school, and smoked for about 2 years.
Then I quit cold turkey for a girl I was dating last year.
Yesterday, job stress and anxiety got the better of me, and I caved and bought a pack of smokes. advice TL?
Yes, check out this book called "The Easyway to Stop Smoking" By Allen Carr. It basically dispels the illusion that smokers enjoy smoking, that smoking relives stress, and a host of other illusions that people have been brainwashed into by the tobacco companies. I checked it out at the library and I don't even smoke but I read most of it but 2 chapters and it is highly enlightening.
Those books are funny actually. And guys not smoking talking about brain washing and how to quit somking lol. Smoking does relieve stress, "tickles" the brain in a good way, makes you more calm. Also nicotine IS a drug. And as any drug, when you use it you develop dependency. I managed to quit because I wanted to do it and just decided that "if others can, am I weaker? wtf". It wasn't easy, and the first 2 weeks are a pain (with peaks around 3-5th days). No, not because of the brain washing tobacco companies did on me. You just PHYSICALLY feel a lot of stuff. You find yourself getting nervous about almost anything. You can't sit down for 1 seconds. You go through a lot of anxiety periods. But with strong will you can do it.
Smoking does not relieve stress, it causes stress. How does smoke going into your lungs relieve stress? It does not. You are suffocating yourself when you smoke, is suffocation not stressful? Isn't it stressful that your muscles and organs can't get the air that they need? I don't know about you but I wouldn't feel too calm if I am suffocating. Smoking is a drug addiction, not a genuine crutch. It does not help anyone but in fact destroys lives.
You are aware that nicotine is pychoactive though, right? With psychoactive substances all kinds of shit can happen. What you should be feeling and what your brain makes you feel are not always the same
I am not saying your brain is telling you to stop smoking, I am telling you your body is telling you to stop smoking. The thing is people have been fooled into thinking that they are actually missing something if they don't smoke. Others think that the brainwashing that tobacco companies use isn't working. If the brainwashing didn't work then people wouldn't smoke. If someone remembers their first cigarette, is it enjoyable? Most people probably coughed and had to "train" themselves to believe they enjoyed it. People need to remember nicotine is filling the hole which it itself has created. People actually believe that non-smokers are having a harder time dealing with stress and that they have an easier time because they smoke.
On November 30 2011 09:41 BoxedLunch wrote: so... I started smoking when I got out of high school, and smoked for about 2 years.
Then I quit cold turkey for a girl I was dating last year.
Yesterday, job stress and anxiety got the better of me, and I caved and bought a pack of smokes. advice TL?
Yes, check out this book called "The Easyway to Stop Smoking" By Allen Carr. It basically dispels the illusion that smokers enjoy smoking, that smoking relives stress, and a host of other illusions that people have been brainwashed into by the tobacco companies. I checked it out at the library and I don't even smoke but I read most of it but 2 chapters and it is highly enlightening.
I personally don't care who Allen Carr is or what he does, smoking relieves stress. Maybe not in a direct head clearing way marijuana does, but when you smoke you can usually see and start chatting with other smokers which distracts you from your stress and thus relieving you of it. Also if you are smoking after an extended break or starting you feel a very strong headrush which relieves stress headaches.
On November 30 2011 09:41 BoxedLunch wrote: so... I started smoking when I got out of high school, and smoked for about 2 years.
Then I quit cold turkey for a girl I was dating last year.
Yesterday, job stress and anxiety got the better of me, and I caved and bought a pack of smokes. advice TL?
Yes, check out this book called "The Easyway to Stop Smoking" By Allen Carr. It basically dispels the illusion that smokers enjoy smoking, that smoking relives stress, and a host of other illusions that people have been brainwashed into by the tobacco companies. I checked it out at the library and I don't even smoke but I read most of it but 2 chapters and it is highly enlightening.
Those books are funny actually. And guys not smoking talking about brain washing and how to quit somking lol. Smoking does relieve stress, "tickles" the brain in a good way, makes you more calm. Also nicotine IS a drug. And as any drug, when you use it you develop dependency. I managed to quit because I wanted to do it and just decided that "if others can, am I weaker? wtf". It wasn't easy, and the first 2 weeks are a pain (with peaks around 3-5th days). No, not because of the brain washing tobacco companies did on me. You just PHYSICALLY feel a lot of stuff. You find yourself getting nervous about almost anything. You can't sit down for 1 seconds. You go through a lot of anxiety periods. But with strong will you can do it.
Smoking does not relieve stress, it causes stress. How does smoke going into your lungs relieve stress? It does not. You are suffocating yourself when you smoke, is suffocation not stressful? Isn't it stressful that your muscles and organs can't get the air that they need? I don't know about you but I wouldn't feel too calm if I am suffocating. Smoking is a drug addiction, not a genuine crutch. It does not help anyone but in fact destroys lives.
You are aware that nicotine is pychoactive though, right? With psychoactive substances all kinds of shit can happen. What you should be feeling and what your brain makes you feel are not always the same
I am not saying your brain is telling you to stop smoking, I am telling you your body is telling you to stop smoking. The thing is people have been fooled into thinking that they are actually missing something if they don't smoke. Others think that the brainwashing that tobacco companies use isn't working. If the brainwashing didn't work then people wouldn't smoke. If someone remembers their first cigarette, is it enjoyable? Most people probably coughed and had to "train" themselves to believe they enjoyed it. People need to remember nicotine is filling the hole which it itself has created. People actually believe that non-smokers are having a harder time dealing with stress and that they have an easier time because they smoke.
I'd like to point out a few things.
1. You came to the tobacco smoking thread to rail against tobacco. This makes very little sense. 2. You keep bumping a thread which discusses the joys of smoking, of which you disapprove. This all but guarantees more views, and again, makes almost no sense. 3. You're here to impart your unwanted wisdom upon us. You gained this wisdom after never having smoked tobacco, and after reading "most" of one book by one guy. This isn't much information on which to base an opinion, and it certainly isn't enough cause to come to a thread of smokers to tell us we've been brainwashed. 4. The TL quit smoking team is over there. Perhaps they would be more interested in what you have to say.
I gotta say I dont like the idea of this thread one bit tbh. There is no good thing about smoking, all it does is ruin your health. Yeah sure it feels good, when you light a cigarette, when you feel stressed, is sitting at the pc playing a game, or your bored, relaxed or what ever. But there is nothing good about smoking, all it is is an addictive drug that keeps you coming back, because it makes you feel good.
That's why I dont like the idea of this thread, and I dont like that TL.net allows it. Bur obv. they cant just close it, because then they would have to close both the alcohold threads and the high thread, which would be pretty bad.
But let me ask everybody here.
Who here is actually glad that they started smoking?
On November 30 2011 09:41 BoxedLunch wrote: so... I started smoking when I got out of high school, and smoked for about 2 years.
Then I quit cold turkey for a girl I was dating last year.
Yesterday, job stress and anxiety got the better of me, and I caved and bought a pack of smokes. advice TL?
Yes, check out this book called "The Easyway to Stop Smoking" By Allen Carr. It basically dispels the illusion that smokers enjoy smoking, that smoking relives stress, and a host of other illusions that people have been brainwashed into by the tobacco companies. I checked it out at the library and I don't even smoke but I read most of it but 2 chapters and it is highly enlightening.
Those books are funny actually. And guys not smoking talking about brain washing and how to quit somking lol. Smoking does relieve stress, "tickles" the brain in a good way, makes you more calm. Also nicotine IS a drug. And as any drug, when you use it you develop dependency. I managed to quit because I wanted to do it and just decided that "if others can, am I weaker? wtf". It wasn't easy, and the first 2 weeks are a pain (with peaks around 3-5th days). No, not because of the brain washing tobacco companies did on me. You just PHYSICALLY feel a lot of stuff. You find yourself getting nervous about almost anything. You can't sit down for 1 seconds. You go through a lot of anxiety periods. But with strong will you can do it.
Smoking does not relieve stress, it causes stress. How does smoke going into your lungs relieve stress? It does not. You are suffocating yourself when you smoke, is suffocation not stressful? Isn't it stressful that your muscles and organs can't get the air that they need? I don't know about you but I wouldn't feel too calm if I am suffocating. Smoking is a drug addiction, not a genuine crutch. It does not help anyone but in fact destroys lives.
You are aware that nicotine is pychoactive though, right? With psychoactive substances all kinds of shit can happen. What you should be feeling and what your brain makes you feel are not always the same
I am not saying your brain is telling you to stop smoking, I am telling you your body is telling you to stop smoking. The thing is people have been fooled into thinking that they are actually missing something if they don't smoke. Others think that the brainwashing that tobacco companies use isn't working. If the brainwashing didn't work then people wouldn't smoke. If someone remembers their first cigarette, is it enjoyable? Most people probably coughed and had to "train" themselves to believe they enjoyed it. People need to remember nicotine is filling the hole which it itself has created. People actually believe that non-smokers are having a harder time dealing with stress and that they have an easier time because they smoke.
I'd like to point out a few things.
1. You came to the tobacco smoking thread to rail against tobacco. This makes very little sense. 2. You keep bumping a thread which discusses the joys of smoking, of which you disapprove. This all but guarantees more views, and again, makes almost no sense. 3. You're here to impart your unwanted wisdom upon us. You gained this wisdom after never having smoked tobacco, and after reading "most" of one book by one guy. This isn't much information on which to base an opinion, and it certainly isn't enough cause to come to a thread of smokers to tell us we've been brainwashed. 4. The TL quit smoking team is over there. Perhaps they would be more interested in what you have to say.
There was no need point all that out, I am well aware of what I am posting and where I am posting it. I already posted in the thread you directed me to previously. If you look back this all started with me recommending the book to someone who wanted to stop smoking and he just happened to post this in this thread. Second off I directed them to the book because one of my friends quit smoking right after reading the book. Do i need to have an experience of misery to know that I don't want anything to do with it? I mean really? I need to smoke to see how miserable smokers are?
On November 30 2011 09:41 BoxedLunch wrote: so... I started smoking when I got out of high school, and smoked for about 2 years.
Then I quit cold turkey for a girl I was dating last year.
Yesterday, job stress and anxiety got the better of me, and I caved and bought a pack of smokes. advice TL?
Yes, check out this book called "The Easyway to Stop Smoking" By Allen Carr. It basically dispels the illusion that smokers enjoy smoking, that smoking relives stress, and a host of other illusions that people have been brainwashed into by the tobacco companies. I checked it out at the library and I don't even smoke but I read most of it but 2 chapters and it is highly enlightening.
I personally don't care who Allen Carr is or what he does, smoking relieves stress. Maybe not in a direct head clearing way marijuana does, but when you smoke you can usually see and start chatting with other smokers which distracts you from your stress and thus relieving you of it. Also if you are smoking after an extended break or starting you feel a very strong headrush which relieves stress headaches.
On December 01 2011 16:10 MadNeSs wrote: I gotta say I dont like the idea of this thread one bit tbh. There is no good thing about smoking, all it does is ruin your health. Yeah sure it feels good, when you light a cigarette, when you feel stressed, is sitting at the pc playing a game, or your bored, relaxed or what ever. But there is nothing good about smoking, all it is is an addictive drug that keeps you coming back, because it makes you feel good.
That's why I dont like the idea of this thread, and I dont like that TL.net allows it. Bur obv. they cant just close it, because then they would have to close both the alcohold threads and the high thread, which would be pretty bad.
But let me ask everybody here.
Who here is actually glad that they started smoking?
I am.
Look, I'm not suggesting children should be allowed to smoke, or even that I'd recommend for adults. It's a personal choice that calm, rational, intelligent people can make. I made my decision, and I'm glad I picked up my first cigar, pipe, hookah, and yes, even cigarette.
It's not popular to say, but it's true. There are plenty of posts in this thread which suggest I am not alone.
We know it's bad for us. Don't think for a minute that we don't. We knew before we even thought about starting (except perhaps those who got started as children, which should never be allowed to happen). I've been a casual smoker for years, mostly socially, but sometimes alone. Even at the rate I smoke (which is relatively low), I know there's a reasonable chance it will kill me. For me, as a rational adult, it's worth it.
On December 01 2011 16:10 MadNeSs wrote: I gotta say I dont like the idea of this thread one bit tbh. There is no good thing about smoking, all it does is ruin your health. Yeah sure it feels good, when you light a cigarette, when you feel stressed, is sitting at the pc playing a game, or your bored, relaxed or what ever. But there is nothing good about smoking, all it is is an addictive drug that keeps you coming back, because it makes you feel good.
That's why I dont like the idea of this thread, and I dont like that TL.net allows it. Bur obv. they cant just close it, because then they would have to close both the alcohold threads and the high thread, which would be pretty bad.
But let me ask everybody here.
Who here is actually glad that they started smoking?
I am.
Look, I'm not suggesting children should be allowed to smoke, or even that I'd recommend for adults. It's a personal choice that calm, rational, intelligent people can make. I made my decision, and I'm glad I picked up my first cigar, pipe, hookah, and yes, even cigarette.
It's not popular to say, but it's true. There are plenty of posts in this thread which suggest I am not alone.
We know it's bad for us. Don't think for a minute that we don't. We knew before we even thought about starting (except perhaps those who got started as children, which should never be allowed to happen). I've been a casual smoker for years, mostly socially, but sometimes alone. Even at the rate I smoke (which is relatively low), I know there's a reasonable chance it will kill me. For me, as a rational adult, it's worth it.
You only smoke when you're with people, and not everyday? Then I hope you wont become a real smoker someday, but when you do, you will regret it.
Anyway I'm not talking about party smokers, but people who smoke every day (the real smokers), and not just some wannabe's who want to tell me there oppinion of smoking, when they arent actually smokers...
And just for the rekord, most poeple who starts smoking late are people who were party smokers to begin with.
I have a fairly nice pipe which I bought in Italy, and I had a great time learning to smoke it and such but I think I've got a problem now because now that I'm back I just don't have as many oppurtunities to smoke - it's just not something I can 'fit in' like I could when I was travelling.
But I don't mind smoking less, the main problem is that my tobacco completely dries out before I can get any decent use out of it. Also, I've had to experiment once again with different tobaccos, which is annoying because there are many I don't like.
anyway, I was wondering since I am pretty much self taught; are there any protips that somebody can lend me which might for example increase the life of my tobacco? also, is there anyone from melbourne (australia) who can point me to a good pipe place? (tobacco, accessories etc)
pipes are the best ^_^ coffee makes me a better person, and pipes make me a more relaxed one
On December 01 2011 16:10 MadNeSs wrote: I gotta say I dont like the idea of this thread one bit tbh. There is no good thing about smoking, all it does is ruin your health. Yeah sure it feels good, when you light a cigarette, when you feel stressed, is sitting at the pc playing a game, or your bored, relaxed or what ever. But there is nothing good about smoking, all it is is an addictive drug that keeps you coming back, because it makes you feel good.
That's why I dont like the idea of this thread, and I dont like that TL.net allows it. Bur obv. they cant just close it, because then they would have to close both the alcohold threads and the high thread, which would be pretty bad.
But let me ask everybody here.
Who here is actually glad that they started smoking?
I am.
Look, I'm not suggesting children should be allowed to smoke, or even that I'd recommend for adults. It's a personal choice that calm, rational, intelligent people can make. I made my decision, and I'm glad I picked up my first cigar, pipe, hookah, and yes, even cigarette.
It's not popular to say, but it's true. There are plenty of posts in this thread which suggest I am not alone.
We know it's bad for us. Don't think for a minute that we don't. We knew before we even thought about starting (except perhaps those who got started as children, which should never be allowed to happen). I've been a casual smoker for years, mostly socially, but sometimes alone. Even at the rate I smoke (which is relatively low), I know there's a reasonable chance it will kill me. For me, as a rational adult, it's worth it.
You only smoke when you're with people, and not everyday? Then I hope you wont become a real smoker someday, but when you do, you will regret it.
Anyway I'm not talking about party smokers, but people who smoke every day (the real smokers), and not just some wannabe's who want to tell me there oppinion of smoking, when they arent actually smokers...
And just for the rekord, most poeple who starts smoking late are people who were party smokers to begin with.
I have plenty of friends and work with plenty of people who are pack-a-day or more smokers. Some regret it, some don't. There are plenty of posts in this thread from people you call "real smokers" who don't appear to regret it, and plenty who do.
There's always the risk of real addiction. I average smoking a few times a week. I've been smoking at about this pace for probably 6 years, but I know there's a risk it will become more. I know I don't necessarily have control over that. I'm completely ok with it.
You need to realize that even with all the serious health risks, including an almost 100% chance of early death for regular smokers, and the chance that any time I smoke I increase the chance that I'll become dependent, it can still be worth it.
Look at it like a basic cost-benefit analysis. It's the same thing you do every time you get in the car to drive, every time you have a drink (if you drink), and every time you go skiing/skydiving/etc. The cost here is a chance of addiction and early death. The benefit is the joy of smoking. I've made the calculation, and for me, it's worth it.
Again, I'm not recommending it. I've made my decision, and everyone else can do the same.
On December 01 2011 16:42 Tonybarbosa wrote: I have a fairly nice pipe which I bought in Italy, and I had a great time learning to smoke it and such but I think I've got a problem now because now that I'm back I just don't have as many oppurtunities to smoke - it's just not something I can 'fit in' like I could when I was travelling.
But I don't mind smoking less, the main problem is that my tobacco completely dries out before I can get any decent use out of it. Also, I've had to experiment once again with different tobaccos, which is annoying because there are many I don't like.
anyway, I was wondering since I am pretty much self taught; are there any protips that somebody can lend me which might for example increase the life of my tobacco? also, is there anyone from melbourne (australia) who can point me to a good pipe place? (tobacco, accessories etc)
pipes are the best ^_^ coffee makes me a better person, and pipes make me a more relaxed one
If you have a humidor or any air tight jar (even ziplock bags are ok, if you're not storing it really long term and your use more than one), you can get a pretty cheap humidification system that will maintain proper moisture. Most decent tobacco shops sell gels, crystals, or little foam blocks (that you soak in solution) that can maintain humidity. Here are some.
While they aren't particularly expensive ($5-$10, unless you really go all out), it's not necessarily worth it for pipe tobacco. That is, these are designed to keep humidors full of cigars, which can very easily reach hundreds of dollars in value, at the proper humidity for a very long time. If you're only trying to maintain a small amount of pipe tobacco for a month or two, you probably don't need anything like this. Simply keeping your tobacco in a sealed container can help. You can put a shot glass of water inside if you're still having problems (careful not to spill). Some people recommend adding a slice of apple or other fruit to a tin or bag of tobacco (preferably an aromatic), though I've heard some people claim it makes the tobacco smoke differently. I've never tried it myself.
The key is to keep your tobacco humidified, not to rehumidify dry tobacco. I mean, feel free to rehumidify it if it's already dry, but this can damage the flavor, and is not ideal.
^ Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it - it's this kind of stuff that I was having absurd difficulty translating into Italian and it will help me a lot
used to smoke this: but then this summer it suddenly started to taste like shit don't know why lol so i tried out pueblo and cross roads but in the end i switched to this one and really like it
Been smoking for close to six years now. Started at fifteen/sixteen because... hell I can't remember why. First smoke was a Red. Loved it. Smoked another the next day. Bought a pack couple of days later, never really looked back all that much. Its just a thing that I do. Sure I regret it sometimes, but the fact is: the only thing keeping me from stopping is the simple joy of having a smoke.
A lot of assumptions in this thread. Does smoking make me happy? What kind of question is that? Yes and no. I am happy when I taste the smoke and feel the burn of it in my throat. I'm not so happy when I'm gasping on a run. Should I quit? Probably. Do I care? Not really. There are a million and a half things that people do every single day that are more unhealthy, and frankly, more disgusting; I don't see why smokers have to be the ones preached to and acted like we're six years old with our hands in a cookie jar.
Fact is, I as a stupid kid when I started smoking. Did a whole bunch of other stupid stuff. But as it stands, I'm an adult who is fully aware of the decision that he is making and is fully aware of the harmful nature of the product. Tobacco companies aren't brainwashing anyone. You know who funds those anti-tobacco commercials? Tobacco companies. Seriously, there are plenty of crusades that will yield much greater results.
That being said; the concern is inevitable and appreciated; however misplaced. If you don't like smoking, don't smoke. Don't assume you know anything about it, though. It ain't food and water, and it ain't comparable to any other drug. It's what it is and that's it. And now, I will have a final smoke before I sleep. Goodnight.
I recently quit smoking about one year ago, give or take a few weeks. Anyway, I have tried a large selection of cigarettes but I had two favorites that stuck for a long while. Camel Turkish Royal is an amazing full flavored cigarette. Peace lights the BEST smoke I have ever had, it is a Japanese blend and it was a joy to smell and smoke.
I have a question. How much does a pack of cigarettes usually cost in the US? This is coming from a scandinavian, where it's freaking expensive, and everybody just (have to) buy(s) the cheapest ones.
On December 04 2011 21:39 MadNeSs wrote: I have a question. How much does a pack of cigarettes usually cost in the US? This is coming from a scandinavian, where it's freaking expensive, and everybody just (have to) buy(s) the cheapest ones.
How expensive it is in Denmark then? In Finland, most of the packs cost from four to five euros. I've heard NY is really expensive place for a smoker..
On December 04 2011 21:39 MadNeSs wrote: I have a question. How much does a pack of cigarettes usually cost in the US? This is coming from a scandinavian, where it's freaking expensive, and everybody just (have to) buy(s) the cheapest ones.
~$9 per pack, depending on what you get. The cheaper stuff like Winston and Next go for ~6, and imports such as Benson and Hedges go for double that price.
If you buy by the carton it's usually a lot cheaper especially from discount e-tailers, usually $~30-50 for 10 packs (200).
On July 06 2011 07:56 dbosworld wrote: I have recently quit smoking. (1 Month so far) My mother was diagnosed a little over a month ago with Lung Cancer. I just recently found out that if she does not respond well the next round of chemo and radiation she will only have 2 months. =/ No Agenda here, do what you want with the information. It made me quit, in a heartbeat.
If I'm being a debbie downer or just posting something that shouldn't be posted, let me know.
I think people who smoke absolutely NEEDS to make peace with cancer, before they even start.
I don't want to be a negative downer either, but something like 1/4 (or was it 1/3?) of ALL people develop cancer at some point in their lives, and put decades of radiation and tar into your body probably doesn't help your chances.
So why do I still smoke? Because I made my peace with dying from suicide, the day that I start suffering horribly from smoking would be the day that I put a bullet through my brain. I figured with my good diet and exercise regime I most likely won't have seriously debilitating consequences from moderate smoking until I'm past my middle ages, I'm happy with living to just 50, that's just about enough time to outlive my parents and since I won't have any kids either, it's not like I would be missed. Less personal suffering, less burden on the overloaded healthcare system, and a happier life before death. Win, win, win and win.
Thanks. The cigar part was very, very interesting! I'm defo gonna check out some of the brands you mentioned because I really like to smoke after eating, and I hear that smoking a cigar after food is amazing.
-much better quality paper than Rizla or Zig-Zag, the taste is better with them as well
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anything goes really, as long as it's the slim version (but not super-slim, that's just stupid)
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or Karelias personally tastes better but it's much more expensive here (per gram), while Bali Shag Yellow is the perfect bang for your buck, at least for my taste. I also sometimes smoke Bali Shag White, but that's "halfzware" (half-dark tobacco) and I always prefer brighter, Virginia-like tobaccos.
Even though in winter I often buy regular ciggies (I'm too lazy to roll at home and smoking at college breaks and waiting at bus and tram stops can be pretty hard if your hands turn to fucking ice everytime you go rolling one). The only cigarette I would say I actually fully enjoy smoking are red Lucky Strikes - these things are fucking delicious.
Normally, I prefer roll-your-own by FAR, as it's cheaper and tastes a gajillion times better. I would say I smoke cigs primarily cause I need a junkie fix and I smoke tobacco cause it tastes great to me (AND cause I need a fix, ofc ). I don't like flavored bullshit like Vanilla Choice or Black Devil black tobacco (Black Devil white tobacco is actually pretty cool, although it can sometimes taste a bit sour) cause the artificial perfumed taste sticks in my mouth and makes me sick - it's okay to smoke like 1 in 10 flavored for variety, but if I smoke them constantly, I feel like throwing up. I also prefer rolling my spliffs with rolling tobacco, easier to roll with, burns slower cause it's moist AND gives a much smoother smoke, but most of my friends don't agree with me so w/e.
For everyone hating on smoking: How is it less disgusting than any of your other habits like eating without washing your hands, sleeping on a bedpillow that hasn't been washed in 24 hours, or standing within 5 meters of an operating motor vehicle (heavy CO emissions) ?
The truth is, anything is moderation can be helpfull to your lifestyle. If you smoke a pack a day, you WILL get sick. If you smoke 4 cigs a week when you go out to drink friday nights, you won't.
Same goes for alcohol, marijuana, fast food, bacon, whatever. If you work out 7 days a week you will hurt yourself too!
I like to roll my own for two reasons: They handle so much better (burn longer, taste so much more humid and soft) and plus it looks classy as fuck when I bust out my pack of Drum and roll one up while chatting up a girl or whatever (what I'm saying here is rolling looks cool, not necessarily the actual smoking!).
And what do I get out of it? First of all it's relaxing as hell. You know that feeling of meditation where you slow your heartbeat and limit your oxygen intake? Yeah, that happens. How about the pleasure of getting fresh air and walking around outside? The natural relaxation you get from putting something in your mouth? (oral fixations are natural for anyone who enjoys eating, kissing etc) And of course, the excuse to set aside 5 minutes of my over-stimulated time.
Of course, if you abuse smoking, you can forget about all that. This is where nicotine (An alkaloid, very similar to caffeine) is the deciding factor in your brain chemistry.
The following is standard issue for pretty much any night:
On December 04 2011 21:39 MadNeSs wrote: I have a question. How much does a pack of cigarettes usually cost in the US? This is coming from a scandinavian, where it's freaking expensive, and everybody just (have to) buy(s) the cheapest ones.
Where I live a pack of Marlboro 100's or Newport Reds will go for between $5 and $6 depending on that specific store.
On December 04 2011 21:39 MadNeSs wrote: I have a question. How much does a pack of cigarettes usually cost in the US? This is coming from a scandinavian, where it's freaking expensive, and everybody just (have to) buy(s) the cheapest ones.
~$9 per pack, depending on what you get. The cheaper stuff like Winston and Next go for ~6, and imports such as Benson and Hedges go for double that price.
If you buy by the carton it's usually a lot cheaper especially from discount e-tailers, usually $~30-50 for 10 packs (200).
Benson & Hedges are imports in America? Here they are less expensive then Camels and Malboros, I couldn't smoke anything else then them, not as expensive as the others and taste better imo.
I've smoked many cigs over te last couple years....but only with friends at parties and what not. I don't see the addiction in my opinion. I love smoking cigs watching the wall and jamming on the guitar though, but I haven't had one since july
On December 05 2011 07:30 Vasher_Pwnzer wrote: I've smoked many cigs over te last couple years....but only with friends at parties and what not. I don't see the addiction in my opinion. I love smoking cigs watching the wall and jamming on the guitar though, but I haven't had one since july
Addiction doesn't take hold until you do it at regular intervals.
My wife smokes and I hate it. I don't make a point of reminding her. But she knows.
She can brush her teeth, chew gum, whatever man. That shit is gross. \
That being said, I love her like nothing else and it really doesn't matter. It's her choice. If smoking were a deal breaker, I'd be a shitty husband imho.
I think it's stupid, but so long as you're not blowing that shit in my face or smoking in a car with me, I couldn't give one single solitary fuck.
On December 05 2011 07:34 Microsloth wrote: I think it's stupid, but so long as you're not blowing that shit in my face or smoking in a car with me, I couldn't give one single solitary fuck.
Thank you. I wish more non-smokers were such non-assholes as well. Actually, most smokers I know (who aren't douchebags), including me, often go out of their way to not blow smoke at people, even when it's outside and/or accidental (the wind, etc.) 'cause I know what it's like to be a non-smoker. And if I see someone with a kid I literally run the fuck away as far as I can. Most of us aren't insensitive douchebags, regardless of what the general consensus within the non-smoking public seems to be.
On December 04 2011 21:39 MadNeSs wrote: I have a question. How much does a pack of cigarettes usually cost in the US? This is coming from a scandinavian, where it's freaking expensive, and everybody just (have to) buy(s) the cheapest ones.
~$9 per pack, depending on what you get. The cheaper stuff like Winston and Next go for ~6, and imports such as Benson and Hedges go for double that price.
If you buy by the carton it's usually a lot cheaper especially from discount e-tailers, usually $~30-50 for 10 packs (200).
Benson & Hedges are imports in America? Here they are less expensive then Camels and Malboros, I couldn't smoke anything else then them, not as expensive as the others and taste better imo.
Well yes, Benson & Hedges are from the UK so it's no surprise it's cheaper in France than in North America haha, vice versa as the Camels and Malboros brands are U.S. based. But yes, they are amazing, I love B & H menthol, so incredibly smooth with a great but not overpowering minty taste.
Belmont silvers (light) are still my favourite favorite cigarettes, I highly recommend it to smokers who haven't tried them.
Thanks to this thread I've starting exploring tobacco again. I was dipping, but my wife wanted me to stop that. so...
I've tried several types of cigars, and although I don't know much about them I've found a few that I like. The thing I'm most excited about is rolling my own cigarettes.
I met a guy on my college campus today that showed me how to roll. After 3 failed attempts I've finally rolled a nice tight smoke of a decent diameter. I was so excited I had to share. :-)
I'm looking forward to picking up a pipe later this month.
On December 04 2011 21:39 MadNeSs wrote: I have a question. How much does a pack of cigarettes usually cost in the US? This is coming from a scandinavian, where it's freaking expensive, and everybody just (have to) buy(s) the cheapest ones.
~$9 per pack, depending on what you get. The cheaper stuff like Winston and Next go for ~6, and imports such as Benson and Hedges go for double that price.
If you buy by the carton it's usually a lot cheaper especially from discount e-tailers, usually $~30-50 for 10 packs (200).
WTH, where in the US is it $9/pack?!?!?!
I pay $5.25 and feel cheated... I would probably have an aneurism over $9
On December 04 2011 21:39 MadNeSs wrote: I have a question. How much does a pack of cigarettes usually cost in the US? This is coming from a scandinavian, where it's freaking expensive, and everybody just (have to) buy(s) the cheapest ones.
~$9 per pack, depending on what you get. The cheaper stuff like Winston and Next go for ~6, and imports such as Benson and Hedges go for double that price.
If you buy by the carton it's usually a lot cheaper especially from discount e-tailers, usually $~30-50 for 10 packs (200).
WTH, where in the US is it $9/pack?!?!?!
I pay $5.25 and feel cheated... I would probably have an aneurism over $9
NY has really high cigarette taxes apparently. Like 4 dollars of tax on a pack
I've been smoking for about 6 years now (couple packs a week) and I still don't like it lol. Unless I'm drinking I just get a very exhausted feeling and sometimes nauseous feeling.
On December 04 2011 21:39 MadNeSs wrote: I have a question. How much does a pack of cigarettes usually cost in the US? This is coming from a scandinavian, where it's freaking expensive, and everybody just (have to) buy(s) the cheapest ones.
~$9 per pack, depending on what you get. The cheaper stuff like Winston and Next go for ~6, and imports such as Benson and Hedges go for double that price.
If you buy by the carton it's usually a lot cheaper especially from discount e-tailers, usually $~30-50 for 10 packs (200).
Benson & Hedges are imports in America? Here they are less expensive then Camels and Malboros, I couldn't smoke anything else then them, not as expensive as the others and taste better imo.
B&H used to be grown here but recently I think they stopped because of lack of sales? now you can only find them at certain stores. Best spliff tobacco ever.
On December 10 2011 19:02 Soliduok wrote: I've been smoking for about 6 years now (couple packs a week) and I still don't like it lol. Unless I'm drinking I just get a very exhausted feeling and sometimes nauseous feeling.
Anyone else experience this?
I do. And I've been smoking for exactly as long as you. But I guess I have kept smoking off and on over the years because of the taste/experience, or boredom, and when I'm stressed it definitely has a calming/comforting effect. Other than that it's mostly the same feelings as you. I'm not sure why I keep going back to it when it does so little for me, but I only smoke 3 cigs a day so it's mostly just for the enjoyment of the smoking experience I guess, not for the nicotine effect itself.
On December 10 2011 19:02 Soliduok wrote: I've been smoking for about 6 years now (couple packs a week) and I still don't like it lol. Unless I'm drinking I just get a very exhausted feeling and sometimes nauseous feeling.
Anyone else experience this?
I do. And I've been smoking for exactly as long as you. But I guess I have kept smoking off and on over the years because of the taste/experience, or boredom, and when I'm stressed it definitely has a calming/comforting effect. Other than that it's mostly the same feelings as you. I'm not sure why I keep going back to it when it does so little for me, but I only smoke 3 cigs a day so it's mostly just for the enjoyment of the smoking experience I guess, not for the nicotine effect itself.
Yea I honestly just like to take a stroll outside sometimes because of boredom and smoking gives me the excuse to do it. I'm not going to just go outside and stand lol. It is also an escpae for when I get the video game rage. But yea it's definitely not for the effect for me as well.
Have you tried different brands? Did anything change? Have you ever been tested for allergies that may be associated with cigarettes?
On December 10 2011 19:02 Soliduok wrote: I've been smoking for about 6 years now (couple packs a week) and I still don't like it lol. Unless I'm drinking I just get a very exhausted feeling and sometimes nauseous feeling.
Anyone else experience this?
I do, im not a regular smoker though and i only smoke cigars (which has alot more nicotine than cigarettes). When i havent smoked in a long while i get really nauseous unless im drinking alcohol at the same time. Since you smoke so regurarly you'd think that your body has gotten used to the nicotine but appearantly you havent ^^
I smoke no more than one cigar a month at the most so in my case its a bit more understandable
On December 10 2011 19:02 Soliduok wrote: I've been smoking for about 6 years now (couple packs a week) and I still don't like it lol. Unless I'm drinking I just get a very exhausted feeling and sometimes nauseous feeling.
Anyone else experience this?
I do, im not a regular smoker though and i only smoke cigars (which has alot more nicotine than cigarettes). When i havent smoked in a long while i get really nauseous unless im drinking alcohol at the same time. Since you smoke so regurarly you'd think that your body has gotten used to the nicotine but appearantly you havent ^^
I smoke no more than one cigar a month at the most so in my case its a bit more understandable
I get this when i haven't smoked for some days or if i smoke pre rolled cigarettes, the normal ones with filters. Iam a regular smoker but only self rolled tabacco. So i think its just a "non used to" overderdos for nicotine, but its weird if u get this everytime(?) after some years of smoking.
On December 04 2011 21:39 MadNeSs wrote: I have a question. How much does a pack of cigarettes usually cost in the US? This is coming from a scandinavian, where it's freaking expensive, and everybody just (have to) buy(s) the cheapest ones.
~$9 per pack, depending on what you get. The cheaper stuff like Winston and Next go for ~6, and imports such as Benson and Hedges go for double that price.
If you buy by the carton it's usually a lot cheaper especially from discount e-tailers, usually $~30-50 for 10 packs (200).
WTH, where in the US is it $9/pack?!?!?!
I pay $5.25 and feel cheated... I would probably have an aneurism over $9
NYC its 9-10 a pack for sure
North Jersey its like 8-9.
I know people who drive to Indian reservations just to get cheap ass cases because its so expensive by me. Guess you are lucky ^^
On December 05 2011 06:26 Abraxas514 wrote: The truth is, anything is moderation can be helpfull to your lifestyle. If you smoke a pack a day, you WILL get sick. If you smoke 4 cigs a week when you go out to drink friday nights, you won't.
On December 05 2011 06:26 Abraxas514 wrote: The truth is, anything is moderation can be helpfull to your lifestyle. If you smoke a pack a day, you WILL get sick. If you smoke 4 cigs a week when you go out to drink friday nights, you won't.
I'm pretty sure no matter how you split it 4 cigs a week is not a "few per day" which is what they were testing in the article.
Also, all the study showed was that the arteries of light (few a day w/e that actually means 3-6 i assume) smokers were stiffer after exercise than non smokes, but the same at rest.
So while 4 cigarettes a week is certainly not "helping" your lifestyle. This article mostly shows it won't really impact it at all either.
imo its slightly pretentious to just link an article and consider that a sufficient rebuttal of someone's argument. EDIT: to be fair the title is misleading as well. Should always read the methodology of an experiment, headlines are meant to grab attention, the results convey the facts.
On December 05 2011 06:26 Abraxas514 wrote: The truth is, anything is moderation can be helpfull to your lifestyle. If you smoke a pack a day, you WILL get sick. If you smoke 4 cigs a week when you go out to drink friday nights, you won't.
Cool thread. Ever since i stopped using "snus" (swedish, or probably scandinavian type of tobacco which you put under your lip) on a regular basis, i enjoy the occasional cigarette instead (probably around 4-5/week). But im thinking of getting a pipe instead, since i use it so rarely i might as well REALLY enjoy it! :>
Been smoking roll ups for approx 6 years, and in the last 4 weeks or so, my papers just wont stick! never had this problem before, they just stick then.. come unstuck as im smoking. I have bought different brands from multiple locations and still had a problem, so it has to be something im doing, and yet i havnt had this once in 6 years, i havnt changed the way i roll or lick my papers.
i started smoking at a young age, an then i stopped an i started again cause i stopped smoking weed. if you look at the cancer statistics in japan they are way low because of there diet. I do think that being a healthy smoker will lead into an longer life. and plus one of my great granpas died at like 80 an smoked since he was a kid. so i believe i can live threw it lol. an if i dont then what ever i guess it happens
On December 30 2011 07:56 Voltaire wrote: Would smoking four bowls of hookah a day be worse for you health wise than a pack of cigarettes? What do you guys think?
Hookah is almost certainly better, or rather, less bad, than smoking cigarettes, but four bowls sounds like a lot. I suppose it depends how big the bowl is, how thoroughly you're smoking it, how effective your hookah's water filter is, how often/well you clean your hoses, and what exactly you're smoking out of it. When I pack my hookah, it will easily run for 3 hours (12 hours for 4 bowls). Since I'm guessing you don't smoke Hookah for 12 hours a day, you probably don't have a very large bowl, don't pack it very full, or don't smoke it all the way. My bet is that it's still better for you, even when comparing 4 bowls to 1 pack, but I have absolutely no data to back that up. I'm not even sure how one would go about figuring that out.
If you're curious why, there are a few reasons: 1. Hookah tobacco is less processed than cigarettes or other forms of tobacco. Tobacco for cigarettes is soaked in all manner of chemicals in order to remove some of the harshness and normalize flavors between batches (your Marlboro Reds need to taste the same every time). Hookah tobacco avoids this because so much of the flavor comes from the good the tobacco is covered in (usually just something high in sugar, like honey, molassas, or a simple syrup) and anything else they've added to it, like bots of fruit or other herbs.
2. Hookas use a water filter, which is surprisingly effective for removing particulates and other contaminants. If your hookah has many pipes that lead into the water (creating smaller bubbles), then the filter is more effective than a hookah with just 1 pipe. Just look at the water in your hookah after only one use. Filters on cigarettes, if they have them at all, simply don't cut it. Dont get me wrong, it's partially because the cigarette tobacco is so aweful for you in the first place, but still... Hell, there are even hookah hoses designed to take filters, and filters designed to fit on the end of any hose. If you're concerned, you could look into those.
Smoked for 4 years during high school. Mostly colts, cpt blacks, and eventually a briar wood pipe. Occasional hookah bar with friends and cigs while drunk at parties. In my first year of college I just said fuck this and quit instantly (drinking too) . I still have my briar pipe though, it's beautiful. Sometimes I kinda want to smoke a bowl but I don't.
Pipes are amazing, some of the finishes put on them are just beautiful. I love sand blast and rusticated pipes the most, never really found the polished/clean finish to be appealing.
Hookah is awesome, I feel like its an icebreaker for people you don't really know at a party. Also picking a nice flavor will make or break it for those icebreaking opportunities. I feel like it would be hard for me to pack a bowl of hookah alone, it would not be the same without friends. I make sure I keep the smoking to a moderate level for a certain period of time. I smoke once or twice a week, sometimes not at all.
On December 04 2011 21:39 MadNeSs wrote: I have a question. How much does a pack of cigarettes usually cost in the US? This is coming from a scandinavian, where it's freaking expensive, and everybody just (have to) buy(s) the cheapest ones.
~$9 per pack, depending on what you get. The cheaper stuff like Winston and Next go for ~6, and imports such as Benson and Hedges go for double that price.
If you buy by the carton it's usually a lot cheaper especially from discount e-tailers, usually $~30-50 for 10 packs (200).
WTH, where in the US is it $9/pack?!?!?!
I pay $5.25 and feel cheated... I would probably have an aneurism over $9
I payed 10 bucks flat for a pack of marlboro's in Manhattan Here in dutchland they have a nationwide set price of 5 euro for 19 sigs
On December 10 2011 16:17 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:
On December 05 2011 00:21 HardMacro wrote:
On December 04 2011 21:39 MadNeSs wrote: I have a question. How much does a pack of cigarettes usually cost in the US? This is coming from a scandinavian, where it's freaking expensive, and everybody just (have to) buy(s) the cheapest ones.
~$9 per pack, depending on what you get. The cheaper stuff like Winston and Next go for ~6, and imports such as Benson and Hedges go for double that price.
If you buy by the carton it's usually a lot cheaper especially from discount e-tailers, usually $~30-50 for 10 packs (200).
WTH, where in the US is it $9/pack?!?!?!
I pay $5.25 and feel cheated... I would probably have an aneurism over $9
I payed 10 bucks flat for a pack of marlboro's in Manhattan Here in dutchland they have a nationwide set price of 5 euro for 19 sigs
Here you are lucky if you pay under $16 for a 25 pack I resorted to rolling my own
On December 10 2011 16:17 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:
On December 05 2011 00:21 HardMacro wrote:
On December 04 2011 21:39 MadNeSs wrote: I have a question. How much does a pack of cigarettes usually cost in the US? This is coming from a scandinavian, where it's freaking expensive, and everybody just (have to) buy(s) the cheapest ones.
~$9 per pack, depending on what you get. The cheaper stuff like Winston and Next go for ~6, and imports such as Benson and Hedges go for double that price.
If you buy by the carton it's usually a lot cheaper especially from discount e-tailers, usually $~30-50 for 10 packs (200).
WTH, where in the US is it $9/pack?!?!?!
I pay $5.25 and feel cheated... I would probably have an aneurism over $9
I payed 10 bucks flat for a pack of marlboro's in Manhattan Here in dutchland they have a nationwide set price of 5 euro for 19 sigs
Here you are lucky if you pay under $16 for a 25 pack I resorted to rolling my own
In UK its generally £6-7 for a 20 pack, whereas rolling your own is much cheaper, especially if you buy your tobacco from abroad :D
On December 05 2011 06:26 Abraxas514 wrote: The truth is, anything is moderation can be helpfull to your lifestyle. If you smoke a pack a day, you WILL get sick. If you smoke 4 cigs a week when you go out to drink friday nights, you won't.
That article is so irresponsibly titled and written, it actually makes me mad.
It's a fucking sensationalist article about "increasing rigidity of arteries" after one cigarette. Doctors measure tobacco smoke damage in "pack years" which is one pack a day for a year. Any article that tells you very moderate cigarette exposure will have a real negative effect on your long term health is written by an idiot.
Also, rolling your own cigarettes tastes better, is more fulfilling, and helps you smoke in moderation. And is MUCH cheaper, good rolling tobacco is about 20$ a bag, which can roll me about 100 cigs.
On December 10 2011 16:17 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:
On December 05 2011 00:21 HardMacro wrote:
On December 04 2011 21:39 MadNeSs wrote: I have a question. How much does a pack of cigarettes usually cost in the US? This is coming from a scandinavian, where it's freaking expensive, and everybody just (have to) buy(s) the cheapest ones.
~$9 per pack, depending on what you get. The cheaper stuff like Winston and Next go for ~6, and imports such as Benson and Hedges go for double that price.
If you buy by the carton it's usually a lot cheaper especially from discount e-tailers, usually $~30-50 for 10 packs (200).
WTH, where in the US is it $9/pack?!?!?!
I pay $5.25 and feel cheated... I would probably have an aneurism over $9
I payed 10 bucks flat for a pack of marlboro's in Manhattan Here in dutchland they have a nationwide set price of 5 euro for 19 sigs
Here you are lucky if you pay under $16 for a 25 pack I resorted to rolling my own
In UK its generally £6-7 for a 20 pack, whereas rolling your own is much cheaper, especially if you buy your tobacco from abroad :D
Yeah, it sucks! I pay £7.50 for 20 marlboro gold silvers here, rip off
On December 05 2011 06:26 Abraxas514 wrote: The truth is, anything is moderation can be helpfull to your lifestyle. If you smoke a pack a day, you WILL get sick. If you smoke 4 cigs a week when you go out to drink friday nights, you won't.
That article is so irresponsibly titled and written, it actually makes me mad.
Also, rolling your own cigarettes tastes better, is more fulfilling, and helps you smoke in moderation. And is MUCH cheaper, good rolling tobacco is about 20$ a bag, which can roll me about 100 cigs.
Yeah, definitely this. I've had cigarettes only a handful of times (I'm a cigar smoker), and I can definitely taste all the extra chemical shit that's in cigarettes.
When I was last in Vegas, I was strolling through the Caesars Palace Forum Shops, and there was a Cigar and Brandy lounge.
For some reason, although I've never smoked, the idea of being old-school classy with a cigar, some good friends and some brandy really appealed to me.
However I didn't take the opportunity, and in Canada I've never seen a similar place.
Started out nice with a woodsy/spiciness. From the middle onward the spice subsided and I got a light coffee with some of that spice still in the background, very nice. Smoke was billowing, draw was smooooooooooth, smoke creamy and white. Construction was excellent and burn consistent. I think this may be my favorite cigar, despite my rather small dabbles into the worlds selection. HIGHLY recommend!
do any of you smoke tobacco out of a bong? if u haven't but want to i advise caution, the first time i did it i honestly started reaching for my phone thinking i might need to call for help before having a heart attack
I plan to stop the cigarette nonsense and go to pipe smoking. I definitely prefer the taste, and while it's not as convenient as pre-rolled, it definitely tastes far better and makes me look sick-nerd baller while reading. It's hard to bum someone your pipe, too.
Now, where is my wizard hat and robe...? I'm not short enough to be a hobbit.
On July 24 2012 23:59 Obvious.660 wrote: I plan to stop the cigarette nonsense and go to pipe smoking. I definitely prefer the taste, and while it's not as convenient as pre-rolled, it definitely tastes far better and makes me look sick-nerd baller while reading. It's hard to bum someone your pipe, too.
Now, where is my wizard hat and robe...? I'm not short enough to be a hobbit.
I agree with this sentiment. I roll my cigs because I prefer to smoke much smaller quantities at a time, and because I enjoy all the steps up to actually smoking (and attracting attention when I roll on bar counters).
But honestly I find cigarette packs to be too easily abusable. Whether you're smoking from a pipe, rolling your own or just smoking some hookah, you are doing something you like. When you're smoking ten cigarettes out of a pack a day then you are abusing a good thing, and you will get sick eventually.
I wish there were pipe bars in Montreal because I would be there every weekend.
On July 24 2012 12:47 thrawn2112 wrote: do any of you smoke tobacco out of a bong? if u haven't but want to i advise caution, the first time i did it i honestly started reaching for my phone thinking i might need to call for help before having a heart attack
lol dude i did that as a joke one time. so so so very harsh.
Hookah is the best to just sit and relax with, but if i can't have that a nice tasty cigar is also nice (I do this about 1 time a month) can't reconcile spending too much money on it though so i partake in the cheap ones that the posted guide warns against, sorry
I've actually quit smoking cigs for a while now. I plan to go full cigar when i'm a little bit wealthier because right now i don't think i can afford smoking nice cigar being an high school student. Plus i don't want to smoke garbage cigar.
Since i'm still cig addict, i'm starting to smoke those:
Nothing special but i like the taste, it last waaaay longer than a cigarette and the amount of smoke + better taste makes me slowing down which is good for my bank account. I like the way the taste stay for some time, that bitter sweet flavor, followed by a kind of fruity savor. Anyway, it's the way i'm smoking right now and i enjoy it a lot more than whatever i smoked before. FYI, a pack of 20 costs 6.7€, that's 8USD, pretty cheap i'ld say. With the amount i'm smoking everyday, i have to buy 1 pack a week. I tried different kind but those are the best i found where i live (Bordeaux, France). If you know better, let me know
reading the bit about pipes made me wanna smoke mine again..
damn, i havent smoked a pipe in 3 years...and come to think of it, cant find my tools
in any case, if any1 is thinking about smoking pipe, just go for it. Personally I was blessed with an excellent cigar/pipe shop near my house, but just gather advice online and you'll be fine. Obviously it is hard to smoke a pipe as often as say a sigaret simply because of the effort involved. For me its always been a "special" thing, not done daily, but more of a monthly thing.
The "monthly" thing however stopped, and so did my pipe smoking. So here's to you Omnipresent, tomorrow ill go by my shop again, and buy my first pipe tobacco in years. I know i'll love every second of it :D
I recently bought a Hookah of my own (Been bumming off my friends at parties and whatnot) And i gotta say its probably one of the most enjoyable smoking apparatus (apparati?) that ive ever used. Theres so many different flavors and things you can do, such as adding flavoring to the water to enhance the taste and whatnot. Also a fun social experience to hang with your buds/significant other/etc and maybe have a few beers while smoking. Great stuff
On July 25 2012 11:46 Adron wrote: reading the bit about pipes made me wanna smoke mine again..
damn, i havent smoked a pipe in 3 years...and come to think of it, cant find my tools
in any case, if any1 is thinking about smoking pipe, just go for it. Personally I was blessed with an excellent cigar/pipe shop near my house, but just gather advice online and you'll be fine. Obviously it is hard to smoke a pipe as often as say a sigaret simply because of the effort involved. For me its always been a "special" thing, not done daily, but more of a monthly thing.
The "monthly" thing however stopped, and so did my pipe smoking. So here's to you Omnipresent, tomorrow ill go by my shop again, and buy my first pipe tobacco in years. I know i'll love every second of it :D
Welcome back.
I recently bought 10 Gurkha Black Dragon Fury in the 4x60 "Nublizer" size.
It's the first time I've smoked anything in that size. Ever since Oliva came out with its "Nub" line, which is basically a shorter fatter robusto or rothschild, this size has become much more popular. It's not something I would reach for on a cool fall evening, but it's really great in the heat of the summer (assuming you're in a position where you have to smoke outside).
I've smoked one so far. The total burn time was short, but the smoke was really dense. It tastes almost like sucking on an espresso bean. There's a little spice, but not as much as I had read. I suspect these will be much better once they've had some time to sit in my humidor after shipping. The oily wrapper is already starting to show much more than when they arrived. I'm going to have to let these rest a while before trying another.
On July 25 2012 12:17 fofa2000 wrote: Smoking Best way to die early, Hope the pleasure is worth it. Also it smells bad.
On July 25 2012 12:07 -KarmA wrote: I recently bought a Hookah of my own (Been bumming off my friends at parties and whatnot) And i gotta say its probably one of the most enjoyable smoking apparatus (apparati?) that ive ever used. Theres so many different flavors and things you can do, such as adding flavoring to the water to enhance the taste and whatnot. Also a fun social experience to hang with your buds/significant other/etc and maybe have a few beers while smoking. Great stuff
I had a hookah before, but they are such a pain to clean and maintain. I really enjoyed the crap out of it when it was new though, but ended up not using it at all because it just lost its smoothness, I guess due to being almost impossible to clean thoroughly. My hookah died in that weird quake we had on the east coast (US) last year. Not gonna replace it, I think I'd rather just stick to going to the hookah bar occasionally. Now that I think about it, I took it to a few parties and it was a pretty big success. Enjoy.
On July 25 2012 12:07 -KarmA wrote: I recently bought a Hookah of my own (Been bumming off my friends at parties and whatnot) And i gotta say its probably one of the most enjoyable smoking apparatus (apparati?) that ive ever used. Theres so many different flavors and things you can do, such as adding flavoring to the water to enhance the taste and whatnot. Also a fun social experience to hang with your buds/significant other/etc and maybe have a few beers while smoking. Great stuff
I had a hookah before, but they are such a pain to clean and maintain. I really enjoyed the crap out of it when it was new though, but ended up not using it at all because it just lost its smoothness, I guess due to being almost impossible to clean thoroughly. My hookah died in that weird quake we had on the east coast (US) last year. Not gonna replace it, I think I'd rather just stick to going to the hookah bar occasionally. Now that I think about it, I took it to a few parties and it was a pretty big success. Enjoy.
For anyone else who feels like hookas are a lot of work:
The key to keeping your hookah in good condition is really just basic maintenance. Change the water every time you smoke (yes, every time) and rinse it with warm/soapy water every few uses. Leave the hoses somewhere they can dry, preferably hanging somewhere, and run water through them if they ever taste strange or leave particulate in your mouth. Take the hookah apart (stem, base, hoses, bowl) if you're not going to use it for a while.
Cleaning really is a pain in the ass, but you should almost never need to clean your hookah if you maintain it properly. Just follow those basic steps, and keep an eye out or discoloration or rust. A hookah can start to taste really funky if you're not careful. This is one of those areas where it's a lot less work prevent problems than fix them later on.
I enjoy going to hookah bars in whatever town I happen to land in, they are almost always good fun, especially when there is live music (my girlfriend has a lot of musician friends who we meet up with at these bars, and they generally play whenever they get the opportunity.) I started smoking Garcia Vega's years ago on my friend's roof when we had "smoke night," where we would just smoke, stare and the stars, and talk about anything. Now it has evolved into trying to carry a bong up a ladder etc; essentially, it has outgrown its roots and has become a bit of fun rather than tradition, as nobody really seems to care for cigars/long talks anymore without weed.
However, I smoke marlb 27 100's, and I'm about to take off for one of those ' - ' a
I don't smoke really anymore..maybe a cigarette once every 2 weeks. Usually just Parliament Blue. I'm not really too picky. Also a Prime Time every once in a while for old times sake.
Actually I have been smoking Marlboro 27s (100s, because I don't mind looking like a woman from time to time; jokesies, I do enjoy smoking cigs for a longer period of time.) and camel blue 99's (when the previous are unavailable.)
If anyone else knows/is a fan of this particular taste, any recommendations on other mellow-type cigs (or, also, recommendations for cigars for special occasions.) Obviously the cigars won't taste like them, but that range of flavor is about where I stand as far as favorite tobacco products. Any other suggestions that are close to those types?
what's the least you've ever paid for a pack of american spirits? i prefer to buy my own tobacco but if i buy cigs i will ony buy these. the cheapest i've ever found them was $7.45 after tax
On July 25 2012 14:09 thrawn2112 wrote: what's the least you've ever paid for a pack of american spirits? i prefer to buy my own tobacco but if i buy cigs i will ony buy these. the cheapest i've ever found them was $7.45 after tax
Oo Here in Oklahoma you can get cheap style (Pall Mall, etc.) for about $4.30 including tax. Marlboro 27s are what I always buy, and those are about $5:40 with tax here, and about 50% of the time have a $1 off logo on them, making them like $4:35. I don't know how the prices are anymore on Ft. Sill, as I don't go there much anymore, but they are even cheaper there.
It breaks my heart knowing that my NY family is paying like $10/pack for 27s = '[
EDIT: I think you can go on Oklahoma Native American reservations to buy smokes for even cheaper (like $30-35/carton, IIRC,) though I have never done so myself. Every story I have heard about buying cigs from reservations have come from scumbags (but hey, if I don't act like their friend, someone else is going to and smoke their weed for them.)
Let's not forget that shisha smoke is very different from tobacco smoke. Most of the white smoke cloud is glycerin burning, which is used to treat sore throats or for hand creams. This is why the smoke is so soft and doesn't smell like a cigarette.
American spirit is nice, it's like taking some drum rolling tobacco and boiling it five or six times.
And for anyone who enjoys 100s:
You might really enjoy rolling your own cigarettes. A tightly rolled cig burns longer, makes less smoke, tastes much nicer (as the tobacco is more humid, has more flavour) and makes you enjoy it so much more by taking away the instant gratification factor.
On July 26 2012 10:39 seaofsaturn wrote: Yeah. I think I am doing okay so far, finding moments where it's tasting really good (in between it being too hot and going completely out, of course)
As far as cost effectiveness goes, I am more concerned about running out of matches than running out of tobacco
Is there a better way to burn the tobacco? Something similar to how you light a fancy cigar (with a piece of cedar wood)? Or maybe with a hot coal (like with a shisha) ?
On July 25 2012 14:09 thrawn2112 wrote: what's the least you've ever paid for a pack of american spirits? i prefer to buy my own tobacco but if i buy cigs i will ony buy these. the cheapest i've ever found them was $7.45 after tax
Oo Here in Oklahoma you can get cheap style (Pall Mall, etc.) for about $4.30 including tax. Marlboro 27s are what I always buy, and those are about $5:40 with tax here, and about 50% of the time have a $1 off logo on them, making them like $4:35. I don't know how the prices are anymore on Ft. Sill, as I don't go there much anymore, but they are even cheaper there.
It breaks my heart knowing that my NY family is paying like $10/pack for 27s = '[
EDIT: I think you can go on Oklahoma Native American reservations to buy smokes for even cheaper (like $30-35/carton, IIRC,) though I have never done so myself. Every story I have heard about buying cigs from reservations have come from scumbags (but hey, if I don't act like their friend, someone else is going to and smoke their weed for them.)
In NC if you go to a major store(read not a local store) you can get almost every brand besides Marlboro Reds for like 3.50 or so a pack. Red's are like 5$ a pack no matter where you go though
On July 26 2012 10:39 seaofsaturn wrote: Yeah. I think I am doing okay so far, finding moments where it's tasting really good (in between it being too hot and going completely out, of course)
As far as cost effectiveness goes, I am more concerned about running out of matches than running out of tobacco
Is there a better way to burn the tobacco? Something similar to how you light a fancy cigar (with a piece of cedar wood)? Or maybe with a hot coal (like with a shisha) ?
It's really all about practice. You should be able to light any pipe once and then smoke it to the bottom. There's absolutely no shame in relighting, but once you've got the hand of it you should only need to light once or twice a bowl. There are a few keys to watch for.
How tight is the pack? This is where you have the most control. Pack too loosely and the tobacco will burn itself out. Pack too tightly and the tobacco doesn't get enough air to keep an ember going. How moist is the tobacco. This one is pretty obvious. Dry tobacco burns too quickly, wet tobacco not at all.
But seriously, it just takes practice. Don't bother trying anything fancy to light your pipe and please don't put a coal anywhere near it.
Been smoking hookah for about a year now, feels good man.
I don't get withdrawl symptoms and I don't crave it. It's really nice to smoke on a cool summer night while watching a good show (gets you very buzzed). Fairly smooth until the coal starts charring the tobacco.
On July 27 2012 11:59 darthfoley wrote: how did you guys get into smoking?
not condeming you, just curious because i've heard people who were 13, or people who started at parties. always wondered about that type of stuff
i would usually accept a cig whenever a friend offered me one, but at that point i wasn't addicted or anything. i became addicted when i picked up smoking cigs in order to cover the smell of weed
also it may have had something to do with being pretty close to homeless and having to walk everywhere
On July 27 2012 11:59 darthfoley wrote: how did you guys get into smoking?
not condeming you, just curious because i've heard people who were 13, or people who started at parties. always wondered about that type of stuff
Had a first "try" at 10 (cigar from a friend of my brother), was terrible. Tried again when i was 12 when a friend stole some cigarettes from his mother, meh. Really started at 14/15, came along with the whole beer/weed/party thing ^__^
I roll myself now, only tobacco without additives.
On July 27 2012 11:59 darthfoley wrote: how did you guys get into smoking?
not condeming you, just curious because i've heard people who were 13, or people who started at parties. always wondered about that type of stuff
I used to be really anti-smoking, but one day I tried one, enjoyed it, and smoked 1 daily. I didn't start my heavy smoking until I met a group of friends that were 'full-time smokers'. Dunno why I tried it, but I only regret the money I've spent on the habit, which is strange, because I used to HATE smoking with a passion.
i started smoking at the age of 16, together with drinking. started with getting cigs from friends at the weekend to buying a pack for the weekend to smoking leftovers on sunday/monday to smoking a pack per day, 2 on saturdays.
i after 12 years, i once again stopped last sunday. i still love smoking i think, but atm i can't afford it and i want to put my money to "better" use in the future. today will be my first evening with alcohol and no cigs, it will be very funny ^^
On July 28 2012 00:59 SuperPro wrote: Why does teamliquid have these threads?
Sigh...
you're gonna have to try harder than that. my experience on teamliquid has been that these types of threads are more fun to hang out in than all the ones where people pretend to debate but are actually just arguing
On July 28 2012 00:57 ChriS-X wrote: i think im gonna invest in a e cig, apparently less bad for your health and doesnt stink too.
if your real concern is health then you should just stop smoking altogether. i've tried the e cigs and it was cool for awhile, but they tasted nasty as fuck, the novelty wore off and i eventually started missing the feeling of actual smoking
i think no matter if it's weed or tobacco, i simply enjoy the physical act of smoking
I mostly smoke pall mall and american spirits. I don't have any friends who smoke, I started on my own in HS because I felt that I needed a light drug I guess, and I ended up liking it. No matter what I do it always comes down to 15 cigs a day, it's kind of weird. Not sure how I gauge that every time... just happens.
The best cigs I've had have been hand rolled I think. I never used filters though and eventually stopped because that shit was staining my fingers from rolling so many lol.
I don't like smoking in the warmer months as much as the winter, probably because I have bad allergies and smoking just messes with my chest even more. So pretty much every summer I quit for 3-4 months or I switch to snus which I'm overdue for. Snus time this time.
Tobacco in China is a mind-blowingly gigantic industry. Somewhere in the range of 65% of all males smoke, and you can do it literally everywhere. Sure no smoking signs are popping up here and there, but you can ignore them in 98% of the places.
Cigarette after breakfast, another on the taxi, a few more at work in the morning, a quarter of a pack at lunch, then some more at the office in the afternoon. Then finally, half a pack for the night, be it at a footbath parlor, a karaoke bar, wherever.
I used to smoke a pack a week back in Canada, and no I'm closing in on 2 packs a day X_X
The variety and insanely ubiquitous availability of cigarette brands, at all price ranges from. 50 cents to 20USD, is something to marvel at. I've tried about 3 dozen different brands, and I enjoyed all 2 dozens of it.
I'm going to keep this short to seem the least preachy and least intrusive as possible, as I'm sure you all get your fair share of "omg stop smoking it's so bad for you". You're all adults, I know you know it's bad for you and you all have your reasons. We all do. However, I definitely have to recommend that Allen Carr book that was mentioned earlier in the thread. I was just starting to get into smoking back in high school, and was really starting to get hooked after a couple of months. I read that book more out of humor than for a serious intent to quit, I always found those self-help books and stuff particularly funny to skim through as they were mostly nonsensical bullshit of BELIEEEEEEEVE IN URSELF and stuff like that.
Well, after I finished reading it I never fucking picked up a cig again. It just completely set me off from it. My friend Lee, known him all my life, was a chain smoker since, oh, 8th grade or something and shortly after I got in touch with him again after graduation I told him to read it. He's been wanting to quit for a while and was finding it, well, really fucking hard and he quit just cold turkey like a month after I recommended it to him from it.
I know it's all anecdotal evidence and to some, it may just seem like self-help bullshit. But that book stopped me just before the ball really started rolling in my addiction, and stopped one of my good friends from his addiction he was struggling with.
But, that's all I'll say. It DOES relieve stress like very little else and who the fuck am I to tell someone how to live their life when it doesn't affect me at all. But I know some of you are perhaps wanting to quit, so def give it a read. ^^
On July 28 2012 10:10 Candadar wrote: I'm going to keep this short to seem the least preachy and least intrusive as possible, as I'm sure you all get your fair share of "omg stop smoking it's so bad for you". You're all adults, I know you know it's bad for you and you all have your reasons. We all do. However, I definitely have to recommend that Allen Carr book that was mentioned earlier in the thread. I was just starting to get into smoking back in high school, and was really starting to get hooked after a couple of months. I read that book more out of humor than for a serious intent to quit, I always found those self-help books and stuff particularly funny to skim through as they were mostly nonsensical bullshit of BELIEEEEEEEVE IN URSELF and stuff like that.
Well, after I finished reading it I never fucking picked up a cig again. It just completely set me off from it. My friend Lee, known him all my life, was a chain smoker since, oh, 8th grade or something and shortly after I got in touch with him again after graduation I told him to read it. He's been wanting to quit for a while and was finding it, well, really fucking hard and he quit just cold turkey like a month after I recommended it to him from it.
I know it's all anecdotal evidence and to some, it may just seem like self-help bullshit. But that book stopped me just before the ball really started rolling in my addiction, and stopped one of my good friends from his addiction he was struggling with.
But, that's all I'll say. It DOES relieve stress like very little else and who the fuck am I to tell someone how to live their life when it doesn't affect me at all. But I know some of you are perhaps wanting to quit, so def give it a read. ^^
fuck off, you're derailing the thread into very dangerous territory. this is the tobacco smoking thread, not the stop smoking tobacco thread. as soon as people start making stop smoking arguments that's all this thread will become
On July 28 2012 10:10 Candadar wrote: I'm going to keep this short to seem the least preachy and least intrusive as possible, as I'm sure you all get your fair share of "omg stop smoking it's so bad for you". You're all adults, I know you know it's bad for you and you all have your reasons. We all do. However, I definitely have to recommend that Allen Carr book that was mentioned earlier in the thread. I was just starting to get into smoking back in high school, and was really starting to get hooked after a couple of months. I read that book more out of humor than for a serious intent to quit, I always found those self-help books and stuff particularly funny to skim through as they were mostly nonsensical bullshit of BELIEEEEEEEVE IN URSELF and stuff like that.
Well, after I finished reading it I never fucking picked up a cig again. It just completely set me off from it. My friend Lee, known him all my life, was a chain smoker since, oh, 8th grade or something and shortly after I got in touch with him again after graduation I told him to read it. He's been wanting to quit for a while and was finding it, well, really fucking hard and he quit just cold turkey like a month after I recommended it to him from it.
I know it's all anecdotal evidence and to some, it may just seem like self-help bullshit. But that book stopped me just before the ball really started rolling in my addiction, and stopped one of my good friends from his addiction he was struggling with.
But, that's all I'll say. It DOES relieve stress like very little else and who the fuck am I to tell someone how to live their life when it doesn't affect me at all. But I know some of you are perhaps wanting to quit, so def give it a read. ^^
fuck off, you're derailing the thread into very dangerous territory. this is the tobacco smoking thread, not the stop smoking tobacco thread. as soon as people start making stop smoking arguments that's all this thread will become
Just had an Ashton Cabinet cigar a friend of mine brought me a week or so ago, was quite a nice, if expensive, smoke. It had a somewhat mild creamy feel overall. I recommend any cigar enthusiast give it a try.
On July 28 2012 10:10 Candadar wrote: I'm going to keep this short to seem the least preachy and least intrusive as possible, as I'm sure you all get your fair share of "omg stop smoking it's so bad for you". You're all adults, I know you know it's bad for you and you all have your reasons.
There. You should have stopped right there.
On July 28 2012 13:52 Powerpill wrote: Just had an Ashton Cabinet cigar a friend of mine brought me a week or so ago, was quite a nice, if expensive, smoke. It had a somewhat mild creamy feel overall. I recommend any cigar enthusiast give it a try.
Ashton is one of those brands... They make very well blended, very well constructed cigars out of some of the finest and most maticulously screened tobaccos available. They're just too damn expensive. You can get a cigar 90% as good for half the price. I'm not trying to knock Ashtons, but you should really only think of buying them if a) you have a ton of disposable income; b) you can get them at a steep markdown; or C) it's a special occasion.
It's the same with a lot of "super premium" brands. I just mentioned that I bought a few Gurkhas, but I got them at something like $3.50 a stick (instead of ~$10+ retail). There are really great deals out there if you keep an eye out and have some patience.
On July 28 2012 00:57 ChriS-X wrote: i think im gonna invest in a e cig, apparently less bad for your health and doesnt stink too.
Here's a video to watch. It's from a really good science-themed YouTube channel.
Due to lack of Marijuana, I decided to try out smoking. I got myself a packet of the cheapest cigarettes I could buy and just went at them. Is it weird that I feel really sick after smoking one? Maybe I'm not used to it or holding it in too long, but it feels like a waste of $10 right now.
Also, in New Zealand, they are planning to make smoking illegal by 2025, which I think is sad. I think people should be allowed doing what they want with their bodies, and it will just criminalise a lot of people too. Probably won't happen though, they just bring it up on the news every once in a while.
On July 28 2012 00:59 SuperPro wrote: Why does teamliquid have these threads?
Sigh...
you're gonna have to try harder than that. my experience on teamliquid has been that these types of threads are more fun to hang out in than all the ones where people pretend to debate but are actually just arguing
On July 28 2012 00:57 ChriS-X wrote: i think im gonna invest in a e cig, apparently less bad for your health and doesnt stink too.
if your real concern is health then you should just stop smoking altogether. i've tried the e cigs and it was cool for awhile, but they tasted nasty as fuck, the novelty wore off and i eventually started missing the feeling of actual smoking
i think no matter if it's weed or tobacco, i simply enjoy the physical act of smoking
There are various different tastes you can purchase for e-cigs.
I had couple electronic cigarettes (two in case the other one ran out of battery;) and I tried to quit smoking with those. They helped me quite a bit, but still I wanted to experiense the real taste of L&M full flavor
Somehow I lost my e-cigs after three days, but I was tobacco-free for 3 full days! Of course motivation is needed to quit, theres no magic tricks.
On July 28 2012 17:37 Lorken wrote: I got myself a packet of the cheapest cigarettes I could buy and just went at them.
On July 28 2012 17:37 Lorken wrote:it feels like a waste of $10 right now.
that's crazy expensive. and about feeling dizzy... it's probably your weed smoking skills that are causing you to completely inhale the smoke rather than suck on it like a lot of people do. lots of my weed smoking friends say the same thing whenever they take some hits off of a cigarette.
lol i'd say that super cheap cigarettes are an awful substitute for weed
Epic thread. I am a rollies man, normal ciggies make me feel like shit. Not much variety available in SA, so I am Black Bobs / Golden Virgina man (pictured). I like the process of rolling as much if not more than the actual smoke. There is something pleasing about making a perfect little rollie.
Incidentally I did not notice anything about the massive variety of filters/paper available. Any thickness imaginable, hemp paper, flavoured paper, etc. I have settled on thin Rizla with cut corners and the thinnest filters I can find. This with flavoured baccie (cherry usually) makes for a killer smoke in my opinion.
On July 28 2012 18:12 thrawn2112 wrote: i like dlx and raw. i dont know anything about buying filters, but if i did i might try using them
How do you roll then O_o Smoking without filters is a nightmare (stains on teeth, tobacco in mouth, burning etc.) Maybe you just an hardcore dude ^_^
well once i get down to the roach i put it out and save it for the bong same like i do with joints
the tobacco in the mouth happens a lot lol. i had a friend who would tear off pieces of the paper pack and roll them into tiny cylinders to stick on the ends of the rolled cigarette. wasn't a proper filter but it solved the problems of tobacco falling out and having more paper between your skin and the lit end.
On July 28 2012 18:12 thrawn2112 wrote: i like dlx and raw. i dont know anything about buying filters, but if i did i might try using them
How do you roll then O_o Smoking without filters is a nightmare (stains on teeth, tobacco in mouth, burning etc.) Maybe you just an hardcore dude ^_^
well once i get down to the roach i put it out and save it for the bong same like i do with joints
the tobacco in the mouth happens a lot lol. i had a friend who would tear off pieces of the paper pack and roll them into tiny cylinders to stick on the ends of the rolled cigarette. wasn't a proper filter but it solved the problems of tobacco falling out and having more paper between your skin and the lit end.
If you roll the mouth end of your paper into a Z shape it achieves a similar end. It's how I roll my joints. I just use ultra-slim filters for my smokes, though, as I don't like smoking tobacco without a filter.
On July 28 2012 17:37 Lorken wrote: Due to lack of Marijuana, I decided to try out smoking. I got myself a packet of the cheapest cigarettes I could buy and just went at them. Is it weird that I feel really sick after smoking one? Maybe I'm not used to it or holding it in too long, but it feels like a waste of $10 right now.
Also, in New Zealand, they are planning to make smoking illegal by 2025, which I think is sad. I think people should be allowed doing what they want with their bodies, and it will just criminalise a lot of people too. Probably won't happen though, they just bring it up on the news every once in a while.
I'm assuming you bought some Pall Mall Baselines or similar, if you got them for $10, and they're a really poor introduction to smoking tobacco.
If you genuinely want to get a feel for good tobacco smoking, buy a pouch. Even if you don't finish it, I'm sure you'll have a friend who would take it off your hands, or you could just save it for rolling spliffs.
A nice, smooth blend like Port Royal Black Label or Park Drive Fine Cut, and the slimmest filters you can find. Zigzag yellows are fine, but I like these badboys. Not as easy to find, but quite a number of dairies, foursquares and petrol stations stock them. They come in sticks wrapped in plastic, so you can chuck a few in your pouch on your way out the door and they wont dry out your tobacco (putting loose filters in your pouch dries out your tobacco so dont do it!).
Feeling sick after smoking can happen when you first start. There was about a 5 day period for me where I would feel a little nausea after smoking, but I pushed past it.
On July 28 2012 17:37 Lorken wrote:it feels like a waste of $10 right now.
that's crazy expensive. and about feeling dizzy... it's probably your weed smoking skills that are causing you to completely inhale the smoke rather than suck on it like a lot of people do. lots of my weed smoking friends say the same thing whenever they take some hits off of a cigarette.
lol i'd say that super cheap cigarettes are an awful substitute for weed
Lol yea, I wasn't trying to substitute for weed, just wanted to try out tobacco just my itself. I like the head high you get from it (I've done half weed/tobacco bong hits) and I was hoping it would be the same with cigarettes. I can smoke 1/2 of one, get the 20 min high and smoke the other 1/2 later on in the day and it seems to work out fine. I've been told cigarettes are expensive in NZ, but it's only ~$8 USD so not that bad but they keep increasing taxes on it and on alcohol for some reason. Another thing I dislike about cigarettes is it feels like I'm damaging my lungs way more than with weed (probably because it's not in a bong). I need to get some pipe tobacco and try that out, it smells so nice
On July 28 2012 17:37 Lorken wrote: Due to lack of Marijuana, I decided to try out smoking. I got myself a packet of the cheapest cigarettes I could buy and just went at them. Is it weird that I feel really sick after smoking one? Maybe I'm not used to it or holding it in too long, but it feels like a waste of $10 right now.
Also, in New Zealand, they are planning to make smoking illegal by 2025, which I think is sad. I think people should be allowed doing what they want with their bodies, and it will just criminalise a lot of people too. Probably won't happen though, they just bring it up on the news every once in a while.
I'm assuming you bought some Pall Mall Baselines or similar, if you got them for $10, and they're a really poor introduction to smoking tobacco.
If you genuinely want to get a feel for good tobacco smoking, buy a pouch. Even if you don't finish it, I'm sure you'll have a friend who would take it off your hands, or you could just save it for rolling spliffs.
A nice, smooth blend like Port Royal Black Label or Park Drive Fine Cut, and the slimmest filters you can find. Zigzag yellows are fine, but I like these badboys. Not as easy to find, but quite a number of dairies, foursquares and petrol stations stock them. They come in sticks wrapped in plastic, so you can chuck a few in your pouch on your way out the door and they wont dry out your tobacco (putting loose filters in your pouch dries out your tobacco so dont do it!).
Feeling sick after smoking can happen when you first start. There was about a 5 day period for me where I would feel a little nausea after smoking, but I pushed past it.
lol yea, they're pall malls I've been told to try out the exact same ones you told me too my a veteran friend. I have to finish the pack I have now though, and I do about one a week so it's going to take a while.
Also, if you smoke regularly (a few ciggy's/day) is it pretty easy to get addicted or does it take quite a long time? Some of my friends seem to be able to go cold turkey even after ~1 year of continued smoking and others can't seem to stop even when they want after a few months of starting. Must me dependent on genes or health or something right?
On July 28 2012 17:37 Lorken wrote: I got myself a packet of the cheapest cigarettes I could buy and just went at them.
On July 28 2012 17:37 Lorken wrote:it feels like a waste of $10 right now.
that's crazy expensive. and about feeling dizzy... it's probably your weed smoking skills that are causing you to completely inhale the smoke rather than suck on it like a lot of people do. lots of my weed smoking friends say the same thing whenever they take some hits off of a cigarette.
lol i'd say that super cheap cigarettes are an awful substitute for weed
Lol yea, I wasn't trying to substitute for weed, just wanted to try out tobacco just my itself. I like the head high you get from it (I've done half weed/tobacco bong hits) and I was hoping it would be the same with cigarettes. I can smoke 1/2 of one, get the 20 min high and smoke the other 1/2 later on in the day and it seems to work out fine. I've been told cigarettes are expensive in NZ, but it's only ~$8 USD so not that bad but they keep increasing taxes on it and on alcohol for some reason. Another thing I dislike about cigarettes is it feels like I'm damaging my lungs way more than with weed (probably because it's not in a bong). I need to get some pipe tobacco and try that out, it smells so nice
On July 28 2012 17:37 Lorken wrote: Due to lack of Marijuana, I decided to try out smoking. I got myself a packet of the cheapest cigarettes I could buy and just went at them. Is it weird that I feel really sick after smoking one? Maybe I'm not used to it or holding it in too long, but it feels like a waste of $10 right now.
Also, in New Zealand, they are planning to make smoking illegal by 2025, which I think is sad. I think people should be allowed doing what they want with their bodies, and it will just criminalise a lot of people too. Probably won't happen though, they just bring it up on the news every once in a while.
I'm assuming you bought some Pall Mall Baselines or similar, if you got them for $10, and they're a really poor introduction to smoking tobacco.
If you genuinely want to get a feel for good tobacco smoking, buy a pouch. Even if you don't finish it, I'm sure you'll have a friend who would take it off your hands, or you could just save it for rolling spliffs.
A nice, smooth blend like Port Royal Black Label or Park Drive Fine Cut, and the slimmest filters you can find. Zigzag yellows are fine, but I like these badboys. Not as easy to find, but quite a number of dairies, foursquares and petrol stations stock them. They come in sticks wrapped in plastic, so you can chuck a few in your pouch on your way out the door and they wont dry out your tobacco (putting loose filters in your pouch dries out your tobacco so dont do it!).
Feeling sick after smoking can happen when you first start. There was about a 5 day period for me where I would feel a little nausea after smoking, but I pushed past it.
lol yea, they're pall malls I've been told to try out the exact same ones you told me too my a veteran friend. I have to finish the pack I have now though, and I do about one a week so it's going to take a while.
Also, if you smoke regularly (a few ciggy's/day) is it pretty easy to get addicted or does it take quite a long time? Some of my friends seem to be able to go cold turkey even after ~1 year of continued smoking and others can't seem to stop even when they want after a few months of starting. Must me dependent on genes or health or something right?
i think that the cheaper cig you buy the more extra shit other than tobacco they are putting into it. also menthols have a lot of extra crap. the difference between your average cigarette and 100% pure tobacco is SO obvious. and yeah it's different from person to person, but trying to not get addicted by only smoking a small amount doesnt seem like a good plan, as the small amount you are using will eventually lead to a slightly bigger small amount, and so on.
like someone else said if you are interested in tobacco then go with something other than cigarettes. a pouch is way cheaper, tastes better, there's not an assload of extra chemicals, and you get the fun of rolling your own
On July 28 2012 17:37 Lorken wrote: I got myself a packet of the cheapest cigarettes I could buy and just went at them.
On July 28 2012 17:37 Lorken wrote:it feels like a waste of $10 right now.
that's crazy expensive. and about feeling dizzy... it's probably your weed smoking skills that are causing you to completely inhale the smoke rather than suck on it like a lot of people do. lots of my weed smoking friends say the same thing whenever they take some hits off of a cigarette.
lol i'd say that super cheap cigarettes are an awful substitute for weed
Lol yea, I wasn't trying to substitute for weed, just wanted to try out tobacco just my itself. I like the head high you get from it (I've done half weed/tobacco bong hits) and I was hoping it would be the same with cigarettes. I can smoke 1/2 of one, get the 20 min high and smoke the other 1/2 later on in the day and it seems to work out fine. I've been told cigarettes are expensive in NZ, but it's only ~$8 USD so not that bad but they keep increasing taxes on it and on alcohol for some reason. Another thing I dislike about cigarettes is it feels like I'm damaging my lungs way more than with weed (probably because it's not in a bong). I need to get some pipe tobacco and try that out, it smells so nice
On July 28 2012 17:37 Lorken wrote: Due to lack of Marijuana, I decided to try out smoking. I got myself a packet of the cheapest cigarettes I could buy and just went at them. Is it weird that I feel really sick after smoking one? Maybe I'm not used to it or holding it in too long, but it feels like a waste of $10 right now.
Also, in New Zealand, they are planning to make smoking illegal by 2025, which I think is sad. I think people should be allowed doing what they want with their bodies, and it will just criminalise a lot of people too. Probably won't happen though, they just bring it up on the news every once in a while.
I'm assuming you bought some Pall Mall Baselines or similar, if you got them for $10, and they're a really poor introduction to smoking tobacco.
If you genuinely want to get a feel for good tobacco smoking, buy a pouch. Even if you don't finish it, I'm sure you'll have a friend who would take it off your hands, or you could just save it for rolling spliffs.
A nice, smooth blend like Port Royal Black Label or Park Drive Fine Cut, and the slimmest filters you can find. Zigzag yellows are fine, but I like these badboys. Not as easy to find, but quite a number of dairies, foursquares and petrol stations stock them. They come in sticks wrapped in plastic, so you can chuck a few in your pouch on your way out the door and they wont dry out your tobacco (putting loose filters in your pouch dries out your tobacco so dont do it!).
Feeling sick after smoking can happen when you first start. There was about a 5 day period for me where I would feel a little nausea after smoking, but I pushed past it.
lol yea, they're pall malls I've been told to try out the exact same ones you told me too my a veteran friend. I have to finish the pack I have now though, and I do about one a week so it's going to take a while.
Also, if you smoke regularly (a few ciggy's/day) is it pretty easy to get addicted or does it take quite a long time? Some of my friends seem to be able to go cold turkey even after ~1 year of continued smoking and others can't seem to stop even when they want after a few months of starting. Must me dependent on genes or health or something right?
It is entirely dependent on the individual. I know people who were hooked a few weeks in, yet I've been smoking for four years and I can still take it or leave it on a daily basis. Sometimes I'll go several months of smoking 10-15 a day, then I'll be short on money for the week or busy with work and not have a single one for 1-2 weeks and it doesn't really bother me much. Everyone is totally different, which is what annoys me about the presumption a lot of people make that all smokers are addicted.
On July 28 2012 18:12 thrawn2112 wrote: i like dlx and raw. i dont know anything about buying filters, but if i did i might try using them
How do you roll then O_o Smoking without filters is a nightmare (stains on teeth, tobacco in mouth, burning etc.) Maybe you just an hardcore dude ^_^
well once i get down to the roach i put it out and save it for the bong same like i do with joints
the tobacco in the mouth happens a lot lol. i had a friend who would tear off pieces of the paper pack and roll them into tiny cylinders to stick on the ends of the rolled cigarette. wasn't a proper filter but it solved the problems of tobacco falling out and having more paper between your skin and the lit end.
If you roll the mouth end of your paper into a Z shape it achieves a similar end. It's how I roll my joints. I just use ultra-slim filters for my smokes, though, as I don't like smoking tobacco without a filter.
I just cut up some old business cards or some cheap deck of playing cards into half centimeter slivers and roll them into a spiral, then stick them into the tobacco joint, and let it expand.
The filter is about stopping tobacco from getting pulled out the smoking end. If you REALLY want less harmful smoke, just roll thinner cigarettes and smoke less at a time (which is less hot, tastes much better, and burns for WAY longer)
Hey, started smoking about 3-4 months ago due to a stressful job, I have been smoking mostly Marlboro fags, but I think the taste is a little to harsh so I have started trying out different brands. Any advises on some good fags?
On August 03 2012 00:59 Pusekatten wrote: Hey, started smoking about 3-4 months ago due to a stressful job, I have been smoking mostly Marlboro fags, but I think the taste is a little to harsh so I have started trying out different brands. Any advises on some good fags?
Be a boss and smoke a nice pipe. Your co-workers will be impressed.
On August 03 2012 00:59 Pusekatten wrote: Hey, started smoking about 3-4 months ago due to a stressful job, I have been smoking mostly Marlboro fags, but I think the taste is a little to harsh so I have started trying out different brands. Any advises on some good fags?
Be a boss and smoke a nice pipe. Your co-workers will be impressed.
Hehe, heard it takes a while to prepare the pipe, and even longer to actually smoking it. Don't think I have time for all of that at work, sorry.
To all you smokers out there, it ain't fucking cool. It's not something that you can just be like "oh yeah, i already smoke, so deal with it" about.
The thing most of you are failing to understand is that you're not just doing harm to yourself. Second hand smoke is just as bad. I speak from experience here. My entire family smokes (inside), and they have since i was born. My mom smoked while she carried me. Now, my lungs are just as bad as a smoker's lungs. And I've never smoked a cigarette in my life. When i went to the doctor due to some pain and difficulty while breathing (i was 15), she looked at me, and said with sincere disappointment "you're a smoker, right?". That's how bad it is.
So while i really don't give a fuck about your health, do your children/non smoking friends/relatives a favor and quit, because there's no such thing as simply not smoking around them.
Ah man, 4 ciggarretes in 2 days. Im dying! First I ran out of tobacco and now I lost my rolling papers when I finnaly bought more... Im not sure if I will make it in time to the store to buy more, im busy untill late tonight. Gah!
On August 03 2012 01:32 GhostLink wrote: To all you smokers out there, it ain't fucking cool. It's not something that you can just be like "oh yeah, i already smoke, so deal with it" about.
The thing most of you are failing to understand is that you're not just doing harm to yourself. Second hand smoke is just as bad. I speak from experience here. My entire family smokes (inside), and they have since i was born. My mom smoked while she carried me. Now, my lungs are just as bad as a smoker's lungs. And I've never smoked a cigarette in my life. When i went to the doctor due to some pain and difficulty while breathing (i was 15), she looked at me, and said with sincere disappointment "you're a smoker, right?". That's how bad it is.
So while i really don't give a fuck about your health, do your children/non smoking friends/relatives a favor and quit, because there's no such thing as simply not smoking around them.
To all you non smokers out there, it ain't fucking cool. It's not something that you can just be like "oh yeah, I never smoked, so deal with it" about.
The thing most of you are failing to understand is that you're not doing harm to yourself. Second hand non smoke is just as good. I speak from experience here. My entire family doesn't smoke (inside), and haven't since i was born. My mom didn't smoke while she carried me. Now, my lungs are just as good as a non smoker's lungs. And I've never smoked cigarettes all my life. When i went to the doctor due to some pain and difficulty while breathing (i was 15), she looked at me, and said with sincere disappointment "how did you get so ugly?". That's how bad it is.
So while i really don't give a fuck about your health, do your children/smoking friends/relatives a favor and start, because there's no such thing as simply being a complete moron.
On August 03 2012 01:32 GhostLink wrote: To all you smokers out there, it ain't fucking cool. It's not something that you can just be like "oh yeah, i already smoke, so deal with it" about.
The thing most of you are failing to understand is that you're not just doing harm to yourself. Second hand smoke is just as bad. I speak from experience here. My entire family smokes (inside), and they have since i was born. My mom smoked while she carried me. Now, my lungs are just as bad as a smoker's lungs. And I've never smoked a cigarette in my life. When i went to the doctor due to some pain and difficulty while breathing (i was 15), she looked at me, and said with sincere disappointment "you're a smoker, right?". That's how bad it is.
So while i really don't give a fuck about your health, do your children/non smoking friends/relatives a favor and quit, because there's no such thing as simply not smoking around them.
To all you non smokers out there, it ain't fucking cool. It's not something that you can just be like "oh yeah, I never smoked, so deal with it" about.
The thing most of you are failing to understand is that you're not doing harm to yourself. Second hand non smoke is just as good. I speak from experience here. My entire family doesn't smoke (inside), and haven't since i was born. My mom didn't smoke while she carried me. Now, my lungs are just as good as a non smoker's lungs. And I've never smoked cigarettes all my life. When i went to the doctor due to some pain and difficulty while breathing (i was 15), she looked at me, and said with sincere disappointment "how did you get so ugly?". That's how bad it is.
So while i really don't give a fuck about your health, do your children/smoking friends/relatives a favor and start, because there's no such thing as simply being a complete moron.
On August 03 2012 00:59 Pusekatten wrote: Hey, started smoking about 3-4 months ago due to a stressful job, I have been smoking mostly Marlboro fags, but I think the taste is a little to harsh so I have started trying out different brands. Any advises on some good fags?
Try Malboro Beyond, the ones with a small menthol ball in the filter that you break. I hate menthol cigarettes, and so did most of the people I recommended the beyond's to, however it tastes nothing like menthol cigarettes but it has the silky smooth smoke that they do. No one I recommended them to have smoked anything else since :p
P.S Haven't smoked for a month now! It's weird, first week/10 days is so fucking horrible, then it goes away, and now a month later it's horrible again... IDK why...
On August 03 2012 00:59 Pusekatten wrote: Hey, started smoking about 3-4 months ago due to a stressful job, I have been smoking mostly Marlboro fags, but I think the taste is a little to harsh so I have started trying out different brands. Any advises on some good fags?
Try Malboro Beyond, the ones with a small menthol ball in the filter that you break. I hate menthol cigarettes, and so did most of the people I recommended the beyond's to, however it tastes nothing like menthol cigarettes but it has the silky smooth smoke that they do. No one I recommended them to have smoked anything else since :p
P.S Haven't smoked for a month now! It's weird, first week/10 days is so fucking horrible, then it goes away, and now a month later it's horrible again... IDK why...
Never tried the beyond, I used to smoke Marlboro Smooths, those were decent for a while but I think they changed the formula a few months after they were introduced because they suddenly tasted awful to me. Switched back to reds after that.
@Groog; yeah I guess depending on the person those cravings could come/go. Maybe get a vaporizer that you can use instead? Or are you just gonna stick to cold turkey?
On August 03 2012 00:59 Pusekatten wrote: Hey, started smoking about 3-4 months ago due to a stressful job, I have been smoking mostly Marlboro fags, but I think the taste is a little to harsh so I have started trying out different brands. Any advises on some good fags?
Try Malboro Beyond, the ones with a small menthol ball in the filter that you break. I hate menthol cigarettes, and so did most of the people I recommended the beyond's to, however it tastes nothing like menthol cigarettes but it has the silky smooth smoke that they do. No one I recommended them to have smoked anything else since :p
P.S Haven't smoked for a month now! It's weird, first week/10 days is so fucking horrible, then it goes away, and now a month later it's horrible again... IDK why...
Thanks mate, I think they sell those here, Its a gray pack, with a big red ">" on it right? I have also been thinking about Marlboro gold touch, but I cant find them anywhere :/
Never tried the beyond, I used to smoke Marlboro Smooths, those were decent for a while but I think they changed the formula a few months after they were introduced because they suddenly tasted awful to me. Switched back to reds after that.
@Groog; yeah I guess depending on the person those cravings could come/go. Maybe get a vaporizer that you can use instead? Or are you just gonna stick to cold turkey?
Second time I'm quitting... Cold turkey + cannabis when it gets really bad is the best way I've found dealing with the withdrawal. What I've found is that there are periods when the withdrawal comes back, for me it was worst at like 1 week, 1 month and 3 months. Just wanted to share my pain... ^^
On August 03 2012 00:59 Pusekatten wrote: Hey, started smoking about 3-4 months ago due to a stressful job, I have been smoking mostly Marlboro fags, but I think the taste is a little to harsh so I have started trying out different brands. Any advises on some good fags?
Try Malboro Beyond, the ones with a small menthol ball in the filter that you break. I hate menthol cigarettes, and so did most of the people I recommended the beyond's to, however it tastes nothing like menthol cigarettes but it has the silky smooth smoke that they do. No one I recommended them to have smoked anything else since :p
P.S Haven't smoked for a month now! It's weird, first week/10 days is so fucking horrible, then it goes away, and now a month later it's horrible again... IDK why...
Thanks mate, I think they sell those here, Its a gray pack, with a big red ">" on it right? I have also been thinking about Marlboro gold touch, but I cant find them anywhere :/
Malboro Gold Beyond are the ones I used to smoke. Yes, that's the pack (Gold one has a golden >). It has a holographic round sticker on it as well.
On August 03 2012 17:31 Pusekatten wrote: Just tried out those gold beyond, and have to say they are the best I have tried so far. Thanks for the tips lad
idk if they are available where you live but try finding a cigarette that has natural tobacco with no additives
On August 03 2012 17:31 Pusekatten wrote: Just tried out those gold beyond, and have to say they are the best I have tried so far. Thanks for the tips lad
idk if they are available where you live but try finding a cigarette that has natural tobacco with no additives
american spirits in the us
Is there any way to see if it has nautral tobacco, or do you just have to know it be heart? All the packs here got those warrnings and scare pictures on them, so its not common to have any writing on them except the brand name.
On August 03 2012 17:31 Pusekatten wrote: Just tried out those gold beyond, and have to say they are the best I have tried so far. Thanks for the tips lad
idk if they are available where you live but try finding a cigarette that has natural tobacco with no additives
american spirits in the us
Is there any way to see if it has nautral tobacco, or do you just have to know it be heart? All the packs here got those warrnings and scare pictures on them, so its not common to have any writing on them except the brand name.
I know right, they're awesome. The only bad thing about them is that they are so smooth down the throat that it's way too easy to chain-smoke them :p
If you wanna try some natural tobacco, I think Prince (might be some other brand) has some. They come in brown/light brown/yellow + white packs, representing the strength. At least I think they're natural seeing as how fast they burned and the strong taste of tobacco.
back when I was smoking weed i'd do it every now and then just for kicks. now i've got a small plastic bottle bong I made and it's the only way I smoke tobacco. i buy natural american spirits either in cig form or pouch form and use that. i actually prefer it to smoking cigarettes as it A) provides a stronger hit B) I have exact control on how much or little I smoke when it's time for tobacco and C) i've found that I generally go through tobacco less quickly than if i just smoke cigs
wake up, do a tobacco hit, and then i have to lay down and i'm unable to move for like 5 minutes
On August 03 2012 00:59 Pusekatten wrote: Hey, started smoking about 3-4 months ago due to a stressful job, I have been smoking mostly Marlboro fags, but I think the taste is a little to harsh so I have started trying out different brands. Any advises on some good fags?
Try Malboro Beyond, the ones with a small menthol ball in the filter that you break. I hate menthol cigarettes, and so did most of the people I recommended the beyond's to, however it tastes nothing like menthol cigarettes but it has the silky smooth smoke that they do. No one I recommended them to have smoked anything else since :p
P.S Haven't smoked for a month now! It's weird, first week/10 days is so fucking horrible, then it goes away, and now a month later it's horrible again... IDK why...
Just wanted to note on this that Marlboro Beyond are some of the worst so called "click" cigarettes on the market. Better ones include Lark 7 Mint Splash (best one by far), Camel Activate and Lucky Strike Click&Roll.
It's the only thing I smoke, but I stay away from the marlboro ones, I think the normal Marlboro mint tastes way better.
Tobacco is an interesting substance. For years I smoked Marijuana religiously, and I found that in isolation if I was careful and focused, Marijuana could be a catalyst for insights about the world. However, Marijuana became harder and harder to obtain. Being a straight guy without any interest in sexual encounters with men, and without any inclination toward darker acts sometimes required to obtain weed, I found that dealers were not cooperating with me.
I'm a friendly and polite guy, and I think that I'm interesting to talk with. Anyway, I was willing to pay the full price of weed (an absurd 60$ to buy an eighth of an ounce). That wasn't enough, so I had trouble finding dealers because I was uncompromising. I consider USD to be legal tender, and even on the black market buying weed, my expectation as an economist is that I should be able to buy weed with $ alone, and not resort to any other form of payment (certainly not homosexual sex or any sort of occult ritual).
So it happened that despite being a regular weed smoker, I found myself high and dry. I have what Stephen King calls the American tendency to go to extremes. So, being unable to buy weed, I decided to buy a pipe and some pipe Tobacco. Naturally, I bought like 5 ounces of Black Cavendish and just went to town. I also had a portable vape, and so that was my starting point.
I'd sit on the back porch by the parents' pool and smoke. I let the dog in to roam around the yard and keep me company. Dogs get a bad rap. They're very intelligent creatures with a good sense of the world, and having Scout to pounce on bugs and bees, not to mention the occasional Skink, kept my spirits high while I smoked. I didn't start slow.
I was pushing about half an ounce through my Iolite (portable vape) pretty much every day, sitting in a cast iron rocker beneath a big umbrella to ward sunburns. Anyway, I'd just smoked through my last half ounce of weed, and at the tail end of it I saw some new sights. I had a glass piece at the time, a sort of hand me down from the first guy I regularly smoked with. Toward the middle of the last bowl I actually got probably three smoke rings from the bowl itself -- something I never see out of a glass piece. I was smoking pretty fast though, so maybe the quick combustion had something to do with it.
The smoke rings rose perfectly round from the piece, and I had a weird sense they belonged to Clint Eastwood and maybe Jack Nicholson (?). It was a weird sort of intuition, though not impossible because my dad had some contact with those guys back in his hey day. Nicholson, you know, has been dodging death for years, and Eastwood probably not much different. I suspect those guys have some movies left to film.
It so happened that not long after, I felt like the splitting image of Eastwood. And I guess that got me fired up to do some serious smoking. I was talking like him -- like I imagined Eastwood'd talk if he were there. It felt right.
My dad walks onto the porch and says to me, "You know, my dad was driving until he was 90." I'd struggled through 5 fills of the vape to that point, and I looked at him like he was crazy. I got the impression he was telling me that my grandfather could have knocked out another 4.
The spirit of Eastwood was still strong in me, and I was gonna back down. So make my day, I said to myself, if grandpa could do 9 of these, then I'm sure you did 10. I'll do 11.
By the 7th fill I was buzzed like a kite with my tail floating in the wind. I opened the back gate of from the patio to the yard and started walking the path. We've got a bench by the dog door, so I sat down there and decided to take out number 8.
There was a peculiar branch with some young leaves on it, probably a hundred, maybe a hundred fifty feet away. It was maybe forty feet off the ground and hanging over the creek. I fixed my gaze on those leaves and resolved to learn my grandfather's art of focus -- don't take your eyes off it while you smoke. I was light-headed, but I pushed through the smoke, and felt the world fading in and out in a blur of indigo shades, almost like the arrayed lines in a 3D movie or the splay of colors when gasoline meets water.
A mosquito was on my ankle gorging itself. And fast as lightning my hand shot down and slapped it, leaving some rivulets of blood behind. I hoped not much of it was mine.
Making my way back up to the porch, I told myself, "There's no way in hell I've got another of these in me."
Nonetheless, I sat back down in the cast iron rocker with the top of the lattice half way cut, in a perfect straight line right across the top. The number 13 popped up in my mind, and I knew that was my target.
I loaded the vape again as dark began to fall. In the twilight, things began to get interesting. It seemed like spirits, white wisps were dancing above the patio, near level with the bushes. There's a chimney, like an exhaust above my dad's office, a black one above a second black one. At the time, it seemed to me obvious that the lower one was his, and the one above it was my grandfather's.
That's the way of our line, I'd say, to quote Gladiator, "What we do in life echoes in eternity."
And so it seemed to me at the time. We put in a day's work while we're here, and when we pass, there's no fading. Every day we're gone from the mortal plane, our higher self repeats the works of our life, and adds to the value of our house. I didn't know my grandfather that well; but, I'll tell you, from what I knew of him, I knew there was a lot of catching up to do.
So I had a Citronella candle burning to ward away the insects, and a big umbrella over my head to guard against showers. With the dark setting in and what looked like the wisps of spirits sailing through the air, I felt like I had already passed partway into that next world. It seemed my every motion was accompanied by a ghostly echo, an eerie blur of white.
I felt certain no harm could find me there, if I was in the presence of so many ancestors whose works and courage I could only imagine. So, despite the faintness in my head, I hit the ignition and felt the crackle of the vaporizer springing to life.
I smoked reverently, gazing up to that second chimney above my dad's office. With this abundance of wisps circling the patio, gently gliding with an unfelt breeze, nothing seemed more important than to embrace the legacy of a family I had not been born into. As an adopted child, it's tough to feel like part of the family, and with the world troubled like it is, I'd never been able to grow close to my parents; much less the ironclad, war-hardened suit of armor that called itself my grandfather. Those sparkling blue eyes and the absolute certainty, not to mention genius, of his every move was nothing short of terrifying to me as a youth.
Older now, having seen and done many things beyond the wildest dreams of those younger years, I felt something like destiny hovering about me, calling me to peer into a history I thought I'd abandoned; a history I felt I had no part in and that was no part of me.
Still, it settled on me that this legacy was mine to embrace.
In the midst of that ninth bowl, there began some voices. They seemed to reach to me from a distant past, when men fought with metal blades and arrows tipped with steel. I experienced a vision of some ancient rite of passage, like Leonidas and the wolf, and I heard the voice of a youth terrified of what it meant to become a man.
"I can't do it."
I continued to pull on the vaporizer, drawing in smoke from the Tobacco. I was lighting it fiercely then, burning more than vaporizing the Tobacco. And so the story continued. My mind turned to those who couldn't rise to the challenge, and yet it seemed those voices faded quickly. Working my way through the smoke, the youthful voices vanished, and in their place rose the voices of men. Or more than men, I could hear authority in their presence; so not men, but kings. Men whose responsibility was to far more than just themselves.
Before my eyes, the wisps continued to dance, and I felt the surge of destiny, as though finally my lineage embraced me, though until that moment its origin had escaped me.
On October 06 2012 04:26 Unifex wrote: dude, I was gonna say you need a better dealer, one who does not require homo sex, but damn that seems like some good weed.
i've got a guy who is pretty good up where i've got my apartment. lately he's received death threats to the effect that he can't sell to me. so, hopefully that'll get cleared up and i'll be able to buy again
I've smoked Golden Virginia almost exclusively for 16 years. No smoker's cough or any of that crap but I've recently started weight training at the grand old age of 31 and I feel it is holding back my progress. Going to give quitting a real go for new year.
On October 05 2012 20:14 YokoKano wrote: Tobacco is an interesting substance. For years I smoked Marijuana religiously, and I found that in isolation if I was careful And so it seemed to me at the time. We put in a day's work while we're here, and when we pass, there's no fading. Every day we're gone from the mortal plane, our higher self repeats the works of our life, and adds to the value of our house.
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Before my eyes, the wisps continued to dance, and I felt the surge of destiny, as though finally my lineage embraced me, though until that moment its origin had escaped me.
Stopped smoking for about 2 weeks due to being sick for 1 week and traveling with family for another, then this morning took some LONG and DEEP drags out of a ZhongHua.
The nicotine rush hit me like a bullet train; the instant delivery of dopamine felt so much stronger than what tobacco should offer. Then the dizziness... oh man, I had to sit down and then put my head down on my desk for 10 minutes before the nausea subsided. I was laughing from the euphoria yet unable to sit up and really enjoy it, definitely an unique experience.
80% pure pleasure and 20% nauseating dizziness... all in all, a good morning felt like smoking for the first time ahhh
Never tried the beyond, I used to smoke Marlboro Smooths, those were decent for a while but I think they changed the formula a few months after they were introduced because they suddenly tasted awful to me. Switched back to reds after that.
@Groog; yeah I guess depending on the person those cravings could come/go. Maybe get a vaporizer that you can use instead? Or are you just gonna stick to cold turkey?
Second time I'm quitting... Cold turkey + cannabis when it gets really bad is the best way I've found dealing with the withdrawal. What I've found is that there are periods when the withdrawal comes back, for me it was worst at like 1 week, 1 month and 3 months. Just wanted to share my pain... ^^
On August 03 2012 00:59 Pusekatten wrote: Hey, started smoking about 3-4 months ago due to a stressful job, I have been smoking mostly Marlboro fags, but I think the taste is a little to harsh so I have started trying out different brands. Any advises on some good fags?
Try Malboro Beyond, the ones with a small menthol ball in the filter that you break. I hate menthol cigarettes, and so did most of the people I recommended the beyond's to, however it tastes nothing like menthol cigarettes but it has the silky smooth smoke that they do. No one I recommended them to have smoked anything else since :p
P.S Haven't smoked for a month now! It's weird, first week/10 days is so fucking horrible, then it goes away, and now a month later it's horrible again... IDK why...
Thanks mate, I think they sell those here, Its a gray pack, with a big red ">" on it right? I have also been thinking about Marlboro gold touch, but I cant find them anywhere :/
Malboro Gold Beyond are the ones I used to smoke. Yes, that's the pack (Gold one has a golden >). It has a holographic round sticker on it as well.
Canabis is a good way to help you give up sigarettes but its not realy stopping your nicotine adiction. An average joint contains more then 10 times the amount of nicotine then a sigarette, i guess it lasts for a while. If you smoke a joint before sleeping you can pretty easily do the next day without sigarettes till the evening (and you smoke a joint again) Am dying to give up smoking again (only quitted once) but its not easy Will give it a try again soon as i absolutely hate smoking. Wish it was illegal
On October 08 2012 11:16 Rassy wrote: Canabis is a good way to help you give up sigarettes but its not realy stopping your nicotine adiction. An average joint contains more then 10 times the amount of nicotine then a sigarette, i guess it lasts for a while.
Pretty sure you can't get addicted to weed like you can with a cigarette. I dunno where you heard a joint contains 10 times the amount of nicotine compared to a cigarette, that's insanity.
On October 08 2012 11:16 Rassy wrote: Canabis is a good way to help you give up sigarettes but its not realy stopping your nicotine adiction. An average joint contains more then 10 times the amount of nicotine then a sigarette, i guess it lasts for a while.
Pretty sure you can't get addicted to weed like you can with a cigarette. I dunno where you heard a joint contains 10 times the amount of nicotine compared to a cigarette, that's insanity.
I think he means Tar, not sure if 10x is accurate though
On October 08 2012 11:16 Rassy wrote: Canabis is a good way to help you give up sigarettes but its not realy stopping your nicotine adiction. An average joint contains more then 10 times the amount of nicotine then a sigarette, i guess it lasts for a while.
Pretty sure you can't get addicted to weed like you can with a cigarette. I dunno where you heard a joint contains 10 times the amount of nicotine compared to a cigarette, that's insanity.
I think he means Tar, not sure if 10x is accurate though
oh dear.
I don't mean to derail but Cannabis is WAY healthier option than tobacco. Nicotine is not in weed (I don't know where you got that) and the tar residue is nothing compared to tobacco (at least the processed ones like Marl and Camel)
edit. What do you guys think of Winstons? Tried them a bit and honestly they are a meh to me. Better than the mainstream ones like Marl but ehh
So, to owners of the Storz and Bickel Volcano, the solid valve set comes with a balloons that has a metal clip at the top. How do they accomplish this? Presumably the metal clip is not re-usable with future balloons. If the metal clip is re-usable, how do you accomplish this?
If the metal clip is not re-usable, could Storz & Bickel sell balloon replacement sets with metal clips at the top?
On October 08 2012 11:16 Rassy wrote: Canabis is a good way to help you give up sigarettes but its not realy stopping your nicotine adiction. An average joint contains more then 10 times the amount of nicotine then a sigarette, i guess it lasts for a while.
Pretty sure you can't get addicted to weed like you can with a cigarette. I dunno where you heard a joint contains 10 times the amount of nicotine compared to a cigarette, that's insanity.
I think he means Tar, not sure if 10x is accurate though
oh dear.
I don't mean to derail but Cannabis is WAY healthier option than tobacco. Nicotine is not in weed (I don't know where you got that) and the tar residue is nothing compared to tobacco (at least the processed ones like Marl and Camel)
edit. What do you guys think of Winstons? Tried them a bit and honestly they are a meh to me. Better than the mainstream ones like Marl but ehh
I'd never smoke cigarettes. The only way to smoke Tobacco is with a pipe or a vaporizer. Stay healthy my friends!
On October 08 2012 11:16 Rassy wrote: Canabis is a good way to help you give up sigarettes but its not realy stopping your nicotine adiction. An average joint contains more then 10 times the amount of nicotine then a sigarette, i guess it lasts for a while.
Pretty sure you can't get addicted to weed like you can with a cigarette. I dunno where you heard a joint contains 10 times the amount of nicotine compared to a cigarette, that's insanity.
I think he means Tar, not sure if 10x is accurate though
oh dear.
I don't mean to derail but Cannabis is WAY healthier option than tobacco. Nicotine is not in weed (I don't know where you got that) and the tar residue is nothing compared to tobacco (at least the processed ones like Marl and Camel)
edit. What do you guys think of Winstons? Tried them a bit and honestly they are a meh to me. Better than the mainstream ones like Marl but ehh
I'd never smoke cigarettes. The only way to smoke Tobacco is with a pipe or a vaporizer. Stay healthy my friends!
There is 0 research that says smoking a vaporizer is healthier than smoking cigs. For all we know, vaporized nicotine might cause cancer at a HIGHER rate than cigarettes.
[edit] And that's why I smoke Pall Malls unfiltered. [/edit]
I mean, it reduces the amount of chemicals you inhale by like 500, but the ones that cause cancer, lung/heart disease and emphysema are still in there, so make your choices. I smoke them because if I'm gonna smoke, I'm gonna fucking smoke.
On October 31 2012 18:21 EleanorRIgby wrote: do filters even do anything? i think they cool the smoke down a bit and stop tiny ashes but do they make smokes healthier?
They are rather perfunctory but at least in my case improve the experience and make the cigarette smoother. I am sure they filter some stuff out, but not the carcinogens (obviously).
I bought a pack of Lucky Strike Unfiltered once, would wake up feeling like I was kicked in the chest. I know I just didn't know how to smoke them properly, but having that open end basically had me pulling tobacco out of my mouth the first few.
On October 08 2012 11:16 Rassy wrote: Canabis is a good way to help you give up sigarettes but its not realy stopping your nicotine adiction. An average joint contains more then 10 times the amount of nicotine then a sigarette, i guess it lasts for a while.
Pretty sure you can't get addicted to weed like you can with a cigarette. I dunno where you heard a joint contains 10 times the amount of nicotine compared to a cigarette, that's insanity.
I think he means Tar, not sure if 10x is accurate though
oh dear.
I don't mean to derail but Cannabis is WAY healthier option than tobacco. Nicotine is not in weed (I don't know where you got that) and the tar residue is nothing compared to tobacco (at least the processed ones like Marl and Camel)
edit. What do you guys think of Winstons? Tried them a bit and honestly they are a meh to me. Better than the mainstream ones like Marl but ehh
Winstons are not better than Marlboro i hate to tell you. People dont pay outrageous prices for Marlboro reds because they're bad. You must be smoking some shitty Marlboro's if you think winstons or anything else even comes remotely close.
On October 31 2012 18:21 EleanorRIgby wrote: do filters even do anything? i think they cool the smoke down a bit and stop tiny ashes but do they make smokes healthier?
They are rather perfunctory but at least in my case improve the experience and make the cigarette smoother. I am sure they filter some stuff out, but not the carcinogens (obviously).
I bought a pack of Lucky Strike Unfiltered once, would wake up feeling like I was kicked in the chest. I know I just didn't know how to smoke them properly, but having that open end basically had me pulling tobacco out of my mouth the first few.
they are IMO one of the best regular pack of cigarettes and jokingly the manliest as that's what the clerks always comment to me when I go to the a tobacco shop or the grocery. It hits you pretty good IMO got drunk at a party and chained a whole pack bad idea but it felt good at the time lol
On October 31 2012 18:21 EleanorRIgby wrote: do filters even do anything? i think they cool the smoke down a bit and stop tiny ashes but do they make smokes healthier?
They are rather perfunctory but at least in my case improve the experience and make the cigarette smoother. I am sure they filter some stuff out, but not the carcinogens (obviously).
I bought a pack of Lucky Strike Unfiltered once, would wake up feeling like I was kicked in the chest. I know I just didn't know how to smoke them properly, but having that open end basically had me pulling tobacco out of my mouth the first few.
they are IMO one of the best regular pack of cigarettes and jokingly the manliest as that's what the clerks always comment to me when I go to the a tobacco shop or the grocery. It hits you pretty good IMO got drunk at a party and chained a whole pack bad idea but it felt good at the time lol
Oh I love me some Lucky Strike filters, unfortunately I can't find them here in the states, but Lucky's are a good smoke if readily available.
On October 31 2012 18:21 EleanorRIgby wrote: do filters even do anything? i think they cool the smoke down a bit and stop tiny ashes but do they make smokes healthier?
They are rather perfunctory but at least in my case improve the experience and make the cigarette smoother. I am sure they filter some stuff out, but not the carcinogens (obviously).
I bought a pack of Lucky Strike Unfiltered once, would wake up feeling like I was kicked in the chest. I know I just didn't know how to smoke them properly, but having that open end basically had me pulling tobacco out of my mouth the first few.
they are IMO one of the best regular pack of cigarettes and jokingly the manliest as that's what the clerks always comment to me when I go to the a tobacco shop or the grocery. It hits you pretty good IMO got drunk at a party and chained a whole pack bad idea but it felt good at the time lol
Oh I love me some Lucky Strike filters, unfortunately I can't find them here in the states, but Lucky's are a good smoke if readily available.
I was talking about filterless as they are the only kind they sell here. I heard before my time that they sold filtered here and sell them in Europe I heard at some point or another.
On October 31 2012 18:21 EleanorRIgby wrote: do filters even do anything? i think they cool the smoke down a bit and stop tiny ashes but do they make smokes healthier?
They are rather perfunctory but at least in my case improve the experience and make the cigarette smoother. I am sure they filter some stuff out, but not the carcinogens (obviously).
I bought a pack of Lucky Strike Unfiltered once, would wake up feeling like I was kicked in the chest. I know I just didn't know how to smoke them properly, but having that open end basically had me pulling tobacco out of my mouth the first few.
they are IMO one of the best regular pack of cigarettes and jokingly the manliest as that's what the clerks always comment to me when I go to the a tobacco shop or the grocery. It hits you pretty good IMO got drunk at a party and chained a whole pack bad idea but it felt good at the time lol
Oh I love me some Lucky Strike filters, unfortunately I can't find them here in the states, but Lucky's are a good smoke if readily available.
I was talking about filterless as they are the only kind they sell here. I heard before my time that they sold filtered here and sell them in Europe I heard at some point or another.
I am in the states too, I feel your pain. I lived in China for a year, could get them in between the border of Zhuhai and Macau. I lived in glory and triumph, with 15$ cartons of Lucky Filters. I miss those days.
It's been awhile since I've had a good cigar. It's hard to get them where I am at the moment, and I can't stand most flavored cigars which is the only thing sold in stores here. I'll have to go on a trip to get some. That said a couple days ago I picked up a packet of cigarillos called "Backwoods" which I'd heard about quite a bit over the last couple years. They're flavored but they actually taste like cigars at the same time, they're pretty good. Super expensive though.
I really need to travel to the next state over and get a box of Man o' War Puro Authentico. Pretty sure that's what they're called. Really good, pretty expensive. ($60~ for a box of 10) Also the only cigar brand where I've smoked several and they've all been equally good.
On October 08 2012 11:16 Rassy wrote: Canabis is a good way to help you give up sigarettes but its not realy stopping your nicotine adiction. An average joint contains more then 10 times the amount of nicotine then a sigarette, i guess it lasts for a while.
Pretty sure you can't get addicted to weed like you can with a cigarette. I dunno where you heard a joint contains 10 times the amount of nicotine compared to a cigarette, that's insanity.
I think he means Tar, not sure if 10x is accurate though
oh dear.
I don't mean to derail but Cannabis is WAY healthier option than tobacco.
While that may or may not be true, a lot of people that are comfortable using nicotine aren't comfortable using cannabis. I'm one of those people for instance. I don't care that other people use it, but I'd never. While I'm aware that there are healthier ways of taking it in than smoking it, the vast majority of users still seem to smoke it though, and as long as they continue to do that it's not good for them, completely discounting it's own negative effects. Of course I'd never smoke cigarettes either. Just personal preference. Again nothing against people who do though. Carry on, smokers.
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