EPTIf it's true, I don't know what they intend to do about the people who will have to be working there. Are they going to be checking into work at a nuclear plant not even up to safety regulations in hazmat suits every day?
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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members. Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true. | ||
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dump
Japan514 Posts
If it's true, I don't know what they intend to do about the people who will have to be working there. Are they going to be checking into work at a nuclear plant not even up to safety regulations in hazmat suits every day? | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
On March 25 2011 06:42 dump wrote: I just heard a rumor that they're still intending to use the Fukushima plants after the crisis is over. If it's true, I don't know what they intend to do about the people who will have to be working there. Are they going to be checking into work at a nuclear plant not even up to safety regulations in hazmat suits every day? Is it safe to assume that they'll be renovating/repairing the plant, and replacing the fuel rods? If not, then I really don't know what the answer to your question it. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On March 25 2011 06:42 dump wrote: I just heard a rumor that they're still intending to use the Fukushima plants after the crisis is over. If it's true, I don't know what they intend to do about the people who will have to be working there. Are they going to be checking into work at a nuclear plant not even up to safety regulations in hazmat suits every day? I read in the news that it would be at least 1-2 years before they would even power up Fukushima #2 as they evaluate their emergency plan and make the necessary renovations, and that plant was hardly even touched. | ||
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Dimagus
United States1004 Posts
But good luck building any new power plants for a few years. | ||
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ggmail
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ggmail
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sc.Kryos
United States6 Posts
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NIJ
1012 Posts
On March 25 2011 07:20 Dimagus wrote: The issue is that the plants are still there, near the coast and able to be hit by tsunamis. Sure, now they know all the things that can go wrong but the fact remains that they can't relocate, they'd have to build completely new ones on higher ground and further inland. But good luck building any new power plants for a few years. Even if they can overcome cost, there's probably other factors required which i imagine would limit the suitable area for plant inland. And japan is small and coastal as it is. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
 Death toll from Japan's earthquake and tsunami reaches 10,035 people, with 17,443 still missing, national police say. | ||
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
http://www.slideshare.net/iaea/table-summary-of-reactor-unit-status-at-of-24-march0600-utc RPV - reactor pressure vessel = the core of the reactor Sadly this reads "around half the fuel is uncovered (stable)" for three of the four reactors and that is probably the reason for the increased radiation in these power plants. The IAEA sums up daily updates on the situation of the power plants in their thread. http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/tsunamiupdate01.html | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
Is this serious, or are they still trying to milk this reactor business for all it's worth? Honestly the media has cried wolf about this reactor, saying it's chernobyl 2 since the start, so I don't even know whether to be nervous and scared, or simply annoyed. | ||
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
On March 25 2011 07:20 Dimagus wrote: The issue is that the plants are still there, near the coast and able to be hit by tsunamis. Sure, now they know all the things that can go wrong but the fact remains that they can't relocate, they'd have to build completely new ones on higher ground and further inland. But good luck building any new power plants for a few years. Why would they relocate? They these plants needed to be next to a large water body for a reason, they didn't pick the spot for the scenery. Sure they could build it slightly inland, but as shown that tsunami can still wipe out a city, there isn't much point. Something has to be done to prevent tusnami causing damage, but moving the plant isn't one of them. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On March 25 2011 21:12 RoosterSamurai wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110325/ap_on_re_as/as_japan_earthquake Is this serious, or are they still trying to milk this reactor business for all it's worth? Honestly the media has cried wolf about this reactor, saying it's chernobyl 2 since the start, so I don't even know whether to be nervous and scared, or simply annoyed. According to NHK news, 3 workers were injured after coming into contact with water in the turbine building adjacent to the reactor #3 building. The contents of the radioactive water suggest that the water was from the containment vessel. So it could be that the vessel sustained damage. However, the current pressure in the reactor core is stable and this suggests that there unlikely to have been a breach. Also, the radioactive water was found in the turbine building. Therefore, one possibility is that the leak is coming from the pipes/pumps connecting the containment vessel to the turbine building. So basically, they are not sure yet whether the containment vessel was breached or not. | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
On March 25 2011 21:37 Ryo wrote: According to NHK news, 3 workers were injured after coming into contact with water in the turbine building adjacent to the reactor #3 building. The contents of the radioactive water suggest that the water was from the containment vessel. So it could be that the vessel sustained damage. However, the current pressure in the reactor core is stable and this suggests that there unlikely to have been a breach. Also, the radioactive water was found in the turbine building. Therefore, one possibility is that the leak is coming from the pipes/pumps connecting the containment vessel to the turbine building. So basically, they are not sure yet whether the containment vessel was breached or not. So, then there is no way that Associated Press can really make the speculation that there was a breach in the core with the information given. It's simply more speculation and fear mongering to milk a few more views from the situation..? I suspected as much. Thanks. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On March 25 2011 21:39 RoosterSamurai wrote: So, then there is no way that Associated Press can really make the speculation that there was a breach in the core with the information given. It's simply more speculation and fear mongering to milk a few more views from the situation..? I suspected as much. Thanks. From what I read, the speculation is not from the press but from a Tepco spokesperson. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:07 Ropid wrote: From what I read, the speculation is not from the press but from a Tepco spokesperson. Yes, they did mention that there was a possibility that the containment vessel sustained damaged but they also mentioned that the pressure from the reactor core was relatively stable. Hence, they are not sure if the vessel was breached or not. So one possibility mentioned was damage to the pipes connecting the vessel to the turbine building, which could account for why there was a 15cm pool of radioactive water in the basement of the turbine building. At this point nothing is certain because the control room of reactor #3 is not functional yet. They have no way of determining where the leak is coming from until they restore full power to the control room and this operation is hampered by the high radiation levels. They also suspect a possibile leak somewhere in reactors #1 & 2 because of the high radiation levels. But still not sure where the leak (if there is indeed one) is coming from (whether it is the pipes, valves, compression pool or containment vessel). | ||
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smileyyy
Germany1816 Posts
The National Institute of Radiological Sciences, where the three arrived earlier in the day for highly specialized treatment, said the two were exposed to 2 to 6 sieverts of radiation below their ankles, whereas exposure to 250 millisieverts is the limit set for workers dealing with the ongoing crisis, the worst in Japan's history. While the two in their late 20s and early 30s may develop symptoms of burns later, all three can walk without assistance and are expected to leave the institute as early as Monday, it said, adding it will continue monitoring them over time. http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/81122.html ??? What are they saying ? 2-6 these guys are most likely gonna die. Dunno about all the news and their fear mongering. I wouldnt trust any news from a country with strong pro-nuclear lobby. I also think that Tepco are withholding information or they really dont have any clue about whats going on. I really respect all the workers who are sacrificing themselves. I doubt that many of them will have long life after the accident is over. I really hope it will turn out good :o User was warned for this post | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On March 26 2011 01:29 smileyyy wrote: ??? What are they saying ? 2-6 these guys are most likely gonna die. Dunno about all the news and their fear mongering. I wouldnt trust any news from a country with strong pro-nuclear lobby. I also think that Tepco are withholding information or they really dont have any clue about whats going on. I really respect all the workers who are sacrificing themselves. I doubt that many of them will have long life after the accident is over. I really hope it will turn out good :o Don't come in randomly and say shit that is misinformation. Yeah 2-6 of those guys will die, just like everyone else. While you might "think" TEPCO is withholding information, radiation levels are currently low as can be verified by radiation counters on US naval vessels near the Fukushima Daiichi plant. There is no real reason why the government would lie outright about how bad it is and endanger a major part of it populace. Post some legit sources leading you to these conclusions that TEPCO "really don't have any clue about whats going on" or don't post in this thread. | ||
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Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
??? What are they saying ? 2-6 these guys are most likely gonna die. Dunno about all the news and their fear mongering. I wouldnt trust any news from a country with strong pro-nuclear lobby. I also think that Tepco are withholding information or they really dont have any clue about whats going on. I find it pretty annoying that you treat this like some conspiracy theory do you have evidence for anything you said or you just like to use your intuition? | ||
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Danjoh
Sweden405 Posts
On March 26 2011 01:29 smileyyy wrote: ??? What are they saying ? 2-6 these guys are most likely gonna die. Dunno about all the news and their fear mongering. I wouldnt trust any news from a country with strong pro-nuclear lobby. I also think that Tepco are withholding information or they really dont have any clue about whats going on. I really respect all the workers who are sacrificing themselves. I doubt that many of them will have long life after the accident is over. I really hope it will turn out good :o I wouldn't really trust the news of a country who has focused all of it's attention to a possible worst case scenario of something that might happen, when at thesame time there was a horrible disaster that killed thousands of people... And Germany especially seems to have a very big anti-nuclear power lobby. According to Randal Munroes chart, 2Sv is treatable, 4Sv is sometimes treatable, and 8Sv is fatal. Does it matter how you were exposed to this? Or does the radiation spread quickly to the entire body? And why did the workers even get water in their boots in the first place, shouldn't they be wearing hazard suits or something? | ||
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