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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 16:43:58
February 26 2011 16:42 GMT
#141
Thanks for the explanations to my questions.

Here's some rap with a message


Don't know what you think about what he has to say though.

Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Rflcrx
Profile Joined October 2010
503 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 18:15:00
February 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#142
I like that song a lot, I am generally not a fan of rap/hiphop, but this song has a message and a message I agree with mostly.

If you are into mixed european music (french/german/english) you might also like this one:
(mostly french though)

also:

he doesn't speak chinese very well but I like to listen to it anyways. From what I experienced the energy of die Ärzte is lost on chinese listeners :/
forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
February 26 2011 18:42 GMT
#143
Check out Eisbrecher and Oomph, two really good German metal bands.
"Well it’s obvious that these Terran gamers are just extremely gifted when it comes to RTS games" -Ret, in regards to the first months of SC2
teekesselchen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany886 Posts
February 26 2011 18:46 GMT
#144
Frittenbude - Mindestens in 1000 Jahrn: Gotta say that it's their best song by far, I'm not that much into their other tracks. But this one is on my favorite lists ever since I heard it (Isenseven always has great music btw and quite a few German artists, too):


Zombie Nation: Great German electro music. Internationally known for Kernkraft 400 (search for it if you don't recognize the name, you definitly know the melody). I think his other tracks are rather underestimated, this is one of my favorites:

When they were introduced, he made a witticism, hoping to be liked. She laughed extremely hard, hoping to be liked. Then each drove home alone, staring straight ahead, with the very same twist to their faces.
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
February 26 2011 18:59 GMT
#145
On February 25 2011 12:41 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 09:31 Rflcrx wrote:
What do you find confusing about the grammar? There is also a chinese version of this song out there :D


Ah it's the German grammar I found confusing. "Guck dir den Dieter an" Why "dir" and "den"? I would expect "Guck Dieter an"

"Musst du die denn färben?" Is the verb denn färben? I don't understand this too.

I was not quite satisfied with the explanations given so i hope i can clear this up more. Grammaticly this small sentence is really not that easy. "dir" is the Dativ of the personal pronoun "du".
As you probably know a Dativ is used for indirect objects like in "Ich schreibe Klaus einen Brief" - "i write a letter to Klaus".
In this case "Ich", the acting person, is the subject ( Nominativ), "Brief" (in this case with the non determining article "ein"(Akkusativ. "einen")) is the direct object ( Akkusativ-Objekt) and "Klaus" is the indirect object. Direct and indirect is meant in relation to the verb.
Analogous is the sentence " Ich schreibe dir einen Brief" meaning " I write a letter to you" with the "dir" beeing the indirect object (Dativ Objekt).

The problem with your sentence is that "gucken"(ever wondered where "to look" came from? ) normally doesn't require or even allows for an indirect object. It is hard to precisely describe how the dir acts here but it can perhabs be translated semi accurately."guck dir Dieter an" - "have a look at Dieter ( with an implied invitation to process the informatio you get by looking)".

The determined article "der" ( or in this case its Akkusativ "den") is not really proper German (you should not use it with personal names) but it's commonly used to emphasise the specificness ( sorry for that word^^) of that person.
So if a parent in the context of the song tells his child "guck dir den Dieter an" it wants his child to have a look at Dieters merits in comparison to his own failiures ( that's the processing part).

Coming back to the use of "dir" as an indirect object for "gucken" you could loosely say that allthough a person can always only look for himself in this case it's emphasised that the looking person himself is involved in the process of looking. Meaning it invites the person to not only point his eyes at Dieter but also take in the Information. So the use of the indirect object furthers the involvement of the subject if that makes any sense to you.


I can't explain why the "denn" in "Musst du die denn färben?" has the function that it does. It's a rethorical question and the function of the "denn" is, as explained earlier in this thread, to convey disapproval. I dont know how to translate it literally but "Do you really have to dye them?" said with an disapproving voice carries the meaning okish.
Usually "denn" is a Konjunktion that ushers in an explaining sentence.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 16:41:52
March 01 2011 16:27 GMT
#146
Thanks. I've asked the question in Word Reference because it might be appropriate here. And your explanations have helped me to understand.

I think I've got "Musst du die denn färben?". Liking literal translations, I would translate it as "Must you dye your hair then?"

Here's the place where you can ask for help in almost any language :D It's a very active forum.
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=2074955

The Chinese version of Junge is so funny hahahaha I respect him for learning the language but I can't help but to laugh at the pronunciation. Much of the meaning and subtleties are lost too.
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
mcbrite
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany229 Posts
March 01 2011 17:12 GMT
#147
Two songs that many of my US friends tend to like:

Loving the beats...



Dieoxhide
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark53 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 17:43:35
March 01 2011 17:38 GMT
#148
These come to mind:





Very old school, I know, but great cultural references too...

Oh, and somthing more contemporary. Good stuff:



You might also want to check out Rammsteins original rendition of it!
'Ex nihilo nihil fit'
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 15:55:21
May 03 2011 15:53 GMT
#149
Check out Jennifer Rostock's new song, it is awesome

Link:
+ Show Spoiler +
twiitar
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany372 Posts
May 03 2011 16:00 GMT
#150


This will teach you the essentials of german humour. :3
rekhyt
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany16 Posts
May 03 2011 16:01 GMT
#151
Prinz Pi - 3 Kreuze für Deutschland

an amazing song from my favourite artist Prinz Pi.
it s german rap, but with a very high literal level, he doesnt swear even one time and he speaks not too fast so i guess this song is beside from its great content a good song to hear some clear german
SYNC_qx
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany197 Posts
May 03 2011 19:01 GMT
#152
On January 12 2011 18:27 ZorAptoR wrote:
(electro) oliver koletzki has some songs with german text..., same for jeans team...

(Hip-hop/rap) i hate most of it but understandable and good german from: fantastische vier, blumentopf, schnabel, deichkind (they are pretty sarcastic), absolute beginner

(folk) if you get drunk in german speaking countries, you should know some udo jürgens (especially "griechischer wein") :D

that's about all that comes to my mind now, there is a lot more, but i most of the time hate german lyrics because it is mostly just bad written lyrics...



You just picked he worst german songs lol :D
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
May 03 2011 19:06 GMT
#153
nothing is worse than german rap
Schwammerl
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany26 Posts
May 03 2011 19:22 GMT
#154
On January 12 2011 19:13 Blobskillz wrote:
was worth it man really with that kind of music you just make bad stereotypes

User was temp banned for this post.



On May 04 2011 04:06 Skilledblob wrote:
nothing is worse than german rap


Is that you "Mr. Bavarian cant speak German" from Page 1?

Please go away...

Anyway i think songs can be a good way to understand and learn german better, here my contribution:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ㅈㅈ ಠ_ಠ
Gesperrt
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany417 Posts
May 03 2011 19:27 GMT
#155
On May 04 2011 04:06 Skilledblob wrote:
nothing is worse than german rap

Bullshit, you know the wrong artists.
EndOfTime88
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria259 Posts
May 03 2011 19:42 GMT
#156
Agonoize






They're definitely not for everyone, but I love them. ^^
"Time is what we want most,but what we use worst."-William Penn
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
May 03 2011 19:55 GMT
#157
How about Punk Rock? :D

Slime - Deutschland muss sterben
+ Show Spoiler +


Slime - Bullenschweine
+ Show Spoiler +


And, slightly related:

Ton Steine Scherben - Der Traum ist aus
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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 17:59:51
August 22 2011 17:57 GMT
#158
I don't think it is too late to revive this thread, as there is still a lot more german music to show to tl.net. For example, I did not see anything from "Wir sind Helden" yet:



This video is even slightly educational, since the spelling of the words is shown. :D
sCnDiamond
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany340 Posts
August 22 2011 18:35 GMT
#159
i got one too!



I even translate they lyrics since they are quite good:
Weltuntergangskommando - Orkan über Frankfurt (Frankfurt = city with the banking center of germany, comparable to wall street in the US)
translated: downfall squad - hurricane above Frankfurt

They stand like a stone in the surge
so proud and self-righteous
And no storm on earth could do harm to them
they decide upon good and bad
and their words are meant to last forever
and pride nibbles on their podium
and the fear in their eyes behind sunglasses
we have seen it.

chorus
I just want to be a hurricane above Frankfurt for once
One which contorts the toupees
And roams around the houses just for pure delight
and which crushes a little.

Lost every ideal, forgetten what friendship means
got lost in the garden of winners
chosen the wrong way
their words were words without a future
and pride nibbles on their podium
and the fear in their eyes behind sunglasses
we have seen it.

chorus
I just want to be a hurricane above Frankfurt for once
One which contorts the toupees
And roams around the houses just for pure delight
and which crushes a little.

I just want to be a hurricane above Frankfurt for once
I just want to be a hurricane above Frankfurt for once

I just want to be a hurricane above Frankfurt for once
One which contorts the toupees
And roams around the houses just for pure delight
and which crushes a little.

I just want to be a hurricane above Frankfurt for once
I just want to be a hurricane above Frankfurt for once

Ich will nur einmal ein Orkan über Frankfurt sein
Der ein bisschen die Toupées verdreht
Der um die um Häuser zieht aus purer Lust
und ein bisschen was zerstört

I just want to be a hurricane above Frankfurt for once
I just want to be a hurricane above Frankfurt for once
formerly spinnaker.
probob
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany227 Posts
September 17 2011 03:17 GMT
#160








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