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You see in our society we are all encouraged to have dreams to strive for, but perhaps we would achieve a lot more if we all had one dream at a time?
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:7 You see in our society we are all encouraged to have dreams to strive for, but perhaps we would achieve a lot more if we all had one dream at a time? | ||
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MPXMX
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![]() OK here's a good question: How did the step from inorganic to organic material occur long long time ago on earth? Really, wtf, it's a question that has been bugging me for a year. | ||
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when the government is wrong =] | ||
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i guess my question sort of addresses the evolution theory - how did magma evolve to life? | ||
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From then on out it was a race to reproduce the most and along the way eating your rival got introduced ![]() Honestly though, that is simply theory. No one really knows. however, it is generally accepted that if you have amino acids, protiens, carbon, and a few other elements sitting togethering in a VIOLENT setting like the earth was at that time you will eventually "spark' something. And if that spark survives than it just might evolve. When you get to college there are courses on evolution adn also paleobiology. Paleobiology is basically teh evolution and lifestyle of really relaly ancient organisms. It is concerned with questions liek, why did it evolve, what was this organisms purpose, and waht was its surroundings like. It is an extrememly interesting subject so long as you like long dead organisms. Its my minor ![]() | ||
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On September 19 2004 21:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye. I like that, mostly because that was the idea behind my ID. Where did you get it or did you come up with it yourself? | ||
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Hind sight is 20/20. | ||
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secret to being happy: live life with as little regret as possible. | ||
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"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him." "Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to truth." - Deus Ex ^_^ | ||
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- From "Boy," a short story I am currently at work on. | ||
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'God is omnipotent, in this omnipotency there is the ability to exist, therefore God exists' I know it can be easily bashed, but it was stated by Spinoza, some famous Dutch philosopher, around the 16the century Also, some guy in bnet once had in his profile: 'What would chairs look like if our heads were placed between our legs?' ![]() | ||
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Since brass, nor stone, nor earth, nor boundless sea, But sad mortality oversways their power, How with this rage shall beauty hold a plea, Whose action is no stronger than a flower? | ||
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On September 19 2004 21:50 itzme_petey wrote: Saw this on someone's sig. Hind sight is 20/20. 20-20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. | ||
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COUNTERED! | ||
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"Military intelligence... two words combined that can't make sense." - Dave Mustaine (Hangar 18) | ||
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"The universe is of infinite size, thus it must have an infinite number of planets. Since not all planets are inhabited, it follows that there is finite number of populated planets. Logically, any finite number divided by an infinite number must be so close to zero as makes no difference, hence the average population of the universe is zero. This means that any people you may meet from time to time are figments of your imagination." - Hitchikers Guide to the Universe i believe. | ||
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Wish I could Carpe diem every day, stormer | ||
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On September 20 2004 11:34 Stormer wrote: Carpe diem... You are the best poster this site has | ||
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On September 20 2004 09:08 MPXMX wrote: A mother slapping a child to instill discipline is a form of good violence COUNTERED! yeah you're right. Agressivity is bad is what I meant. | ||
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On September 20 2004 11:35 Beyonder wrote: You are the best poster this site has i disagree,and to prove my point i will now shoot you in the face. | ||
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On September 20 2004 11:33 iNCuBuS_ wrote: Never test the depth of water with both feet? lol , nice one xD | ||
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On September 20 2004 09:10 SickofLife wrote: Evolution, nor Creationism are theories, they are beliefs. A theory can be scientifcally proven; however, neither of the previously mentioned can be proven. "Military intelligence... two words combined that can't make sense." - Dave Mustaine (Hangar 18) Almost all scientific theories are impossible to 'prove' in the literal sense of the word. A scientific theory is useful as long as it is consistent with empirical observations. The theory of evolution is no different. | ||
ahk-gosu
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True power lies within defeating your enemy without fighting. If you strengthen your rear you will weaken your front, if you strengthen your front you will weaken your rear, if you strengthen your left you will weaken your right, if you strengthen your right you will weaken your left. and if you spread out your defense evenly then all sides will be weak. If those who are sent to draw water begin by drinking themselves, the army is suffering from thirst. If some are seen retreating and some are seen advancing it is a lure. So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. | ||
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On September 20 2004 01:15 Malmis wrote: "Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven." pshh not true. whoever made this quote is going to hell. and no he isnt going to rule hell ![]() | ||
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On September 20 2004 08:51 PaTieNt wrote: Would it make a difference if religion existed?..does humanity need a beleif in order to stay relief? be comftable of living and handling everyday problems becuase they stick to that beleif. What about the people who don't beleive...does their life just seem more miserable than the others? Why does the human race need so much excuses and lies just to feel comftable about their enviroment and their reality? yes it would because if religion didnt exist you would not have wrote this post ![]() | ||
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On September 20 2004 12:04 z7-TranCe wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2004 11:35 Beyonder wrote: On September 20 2004 11:34 Stormer wrote: Carpe diem... You are the best poster this site has i disagree,and to prove my point i will now shoot you in the face. We always do solve our differences in a civil way | ||
MPXMX
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On September 20 2004 12:04 z7-TranCe wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2004 11:35 Beyonder wrote: On September 20 2004 11:34 Stormer wrote: Carpe diem... You are the best poster this site has i disagree,and to prove my point i will now shoot you in the face. Haha I just got it... | ||
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EDIT: Also, two of my favorite quotes. "Live today like it's your last" "Learn today like you'll live forever" -Plato (I could be wrong though) | ||
gLyo
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XvObiVx
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On September 20 2004 09:10 SickofLife wrote: Evolution, nor Creationism are theories, they are beliefs. A theory can be scientifcally proven; however, neither of the previously mentioned can be proven. Wow, have you taken biology yet? Really, in 9th grade I learned this. Evolution, whether you like it or not, has been proven. When you read about Charles Darwin, and his finches in particular, you learn that evolution has taken place. Evolution occurred when a bird species was isolated to a group of islands. These islands would have different kinds of seeds to feed off of, and if those nuts were walnuts, the birds with the most powerful and largest beaks would get food the easiest. Thus, small beaked birds would die out, leaving the birds with the largest beaks. And it'd go on for generations, where the genes for large beaks would be brought together again and again. So they had evolved from a normal-sized beak to a larger. | ||
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when knights were bold, and toilets weren't invented, you could leave a load, in the middle of the road, and walk away contented. | ||
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On September 20 2004 12:33 Beyonder wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2004 12:04 z7-TranCe wrote: On September 20 2004 11:35 Beyonder wrote: On September 20 2004 11:34 Stormer wrote: Carpe diem... You are the best poster this site has i disagree,and to prove my point i will now shoot you in the face. We always do solve our differences in a civil way quite and a civil shotgun blast will do that'll do pig that''ll do | ||
ahk-gosu
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On September 20 2004 17:51 bburn wrote: In days of old, when knights were bold, and toilets weren't invented, you could leave a load, in the middle of the road, and walk away contented. what if a horse kicketh thou in thou ass? thou is not contented? yes? | ||
koit
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"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him." That's Voltaire, buddy. | ||
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Wow, have you taken biology yet? Really, in 9th grade I learned this. Evolution, whether you like it or not, has been proven. Don't accuse others of ignorance when you yourself don't understand the concept of a theory. | ||
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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC, AKA Marcus Porcius Cato) "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Mark Twain (1835-1910) "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'." - unknown "Many a man's reputation would not know his character if they met on the street." - Elbert Hubbard (1856-1915) "The truth is more important than the facts." - Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959) "Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." - Tolstoy "Success usually comes to those who are too busy to be looking for it" - Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862) "The secret of success is to know something nobody else knows." - Aristotle Onassis (1906-1975) "Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake." - Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower (1887-1956) "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." Ralph Waldo Emerson What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." - Samuel Johnson (1709-1784) "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss Edit: Yes, just a bunch of quotes, but hey, I thought they were worth listing for this topic. | ||
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You are victorious! Victory | ||
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On September 20 2004 12:21 ahk-gosu wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2004 01:15 Malmis wrote: "Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven." pshh not true. whoever made this quote is going to hell. and no he isnt going to rule hell ![]() I really really hope that was a joke. The fucking devil said that, loosely translated, in the bible. Non servitum. Literally I will not serve, but that is the origins of that phrase. | ||
maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
On September 20 2004 09:10 SickofLife wrote: Evolution, nor Creationism are theories, they are beliefs. A theory can be scientifcally proven; however, neither of the previously mentioned can be proven. "Military intelligence... two words combined that can't make sense." - Dave Mustaine (Hangar 18) Speaking of what doesnt make sense. I am assuming you mean Neither Evolution nor creationsim...However you are sadly mistaken. THeories CAN NOT be proven. Evolution is a theory, a VERY strong one, while creationism is a belief. It was a nice try to split hairs, but sadly you have no intellect. | ||
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evolution is a belief, but it is also much more. | ||
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maleorderbride
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The only goddamn way that evolution could not be true is if there were some little green-skined monsters in orbit around us redesigning every single organism to fit their pathological plan. | ||
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On September 22 2004 14:32 maleorderbride wrote: To shed additional light, I graduate in 9 months with a degree in paleobiology, which is the evolutionary side of geology. The only goddamn way that evolution could not be true is if there were some little green-skined monsters in orbit around us redesigning every single organism to fit their pathological plan. they aren't green skinned :/ | ||
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SChasu
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"only gay people don't give straight answers" "big penis" | ||
eternalbliss
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"What came first, the chicken or the egg?" I wanna see someone answer that then get flamed and bitched at for doing so lol[ | ||
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On September 20 2004 17:43 XvObiVx wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2004 09:10 SickofLife wrote: Evolution, nor Creationism are theories, they are beliefs. A theory can be scientifcally proven; however, neither of the previously mentioned can be proven. Wow, have you taken biology yet? Really, in 9th grade I learned this. Evolution, whether you like it or not, has been proven. When you read about Charles Darwin, and his finches in particular, you learn that evolution has taken place. Evolution occurred when a bird species was isolated to a group of islands. These islands would have different kinds of seeds to feed off of, and if those nuts were walnuts, the birds with the most powerful and largest beaks would get food the easiest. Thus, small beaked birds would die out, leaving the birds with the largest beaks. And it'd go on for generations, where the genes for large beaks would be brought together again and again. So they had evolved from a normal-sized beak to a larger. Its a theory as it HASNT been proven fully. Thats why its a theory which has a lot of evidence to support it but its not fully proved. There are still many gaps that need to be filled in before it becomes a Law. | ||
Veigh
Netherlands300 Posts
If you think that a theory is something that is absolutely, 100% sure, you're stupid. In fact, by definition there can't be a theory that is logically 100% correct. You can always come with some silly 'what if'-question. Theories always have some falsifiability (the what-if-question) attached to them, that's what makes them scientifically accepted. The more falsifiable a theory is, the more aspects it has, that you can test, deepen out and clarify. It's easy to see that the evolution theory has more aspects about which something can be said then the creation theory, so the evo-theory is more scientifically then the creation theory for sure. With creationist theory, the problem is, there is hardly any aspect that a critic can test, check or criticize. The answer is always: you gotta believe in it. But evolutionists try to convince with explanations, with tests and with maleorderbride's silly calcium skeletons. Now that's what you call proof and that's what makes it a theory | ||
Veigh
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BTW, the natural-law subject is something that isn't without problems either, but I think this is already enough intellectual chitchat for mr. SickofLife | ||
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On September 22 2004 14:22 maleorderbride wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2004 12:21 ahk-gosu wrote: On September 20 2004 01:15 Malmis wrote: "Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven." pshh not true. whoever made this quote is going to hell. and no he isnt going to rule hell ![]() I really really hope that was a joke. The fucking devil said that, loosely translated, in the bible. Non servitum. Literally I will not serve, but that is the origins of that phrase. *It was in a story by Dante (inferno?), not the bible, I'm pretty sure. | ||
Gandalf
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On September 20 2004 09:10 SickofLife wrote: Evolution, nor Creationism are theories, they are beliefs. A theory can be scientifcally proven; however, neither of the previously mentioned can be proven. "Military intelligence... two words combined that can't make sense." - Dave Mustaine (Hangar 18) What have you been reading my friend? Probably nothing. Evolution is the process by which a certain species changes over time. Man didnt always walk erect, we have PROOF of that in discovered skeletons, but now we DO walk erect. Thats a change. We have EVOLVED from walking with bent backs to walking with straight ones. Thats PROOF of evolution. And only one of thousands. If you were to pick up some books, you would see COUNTLESS examples and proofs of evolution. Evolution is not a belief, it is a scientific fact that has been proven beyond doubt. Read some books my friend, before you start making statements that make no sense. | ||
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Gandalf
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Guess = Hypothesis You work on it, prove it = Theory Law = You work on the theory enough to show it has NO exceptions So a theory, for the most part, will be true, unlees its an EXCEPTION we're considering. To call it a "best guess" is just plain dumb. The guy who gave the example of the finches was right. | ||
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Gandalf
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On September 22 2004 15:44 Slaughter)BiO wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2004 17:43 XvObiVx wrote: On September 20 2004 09:10 SickofLife wrote: Evolution, nor Creationism are theories, they are beliefs. A theory can be scientifcally proven; however, neither of the previously mentioned can be proven. Wow, have you taken biology yet? Really, in 9th grade I learned this. Evolution, whether you like it or not, has been proven. When you read about Charles Darwin, and his finches in particular, you learn that evolution has taken place. Evolution occurred when a bird species was isolated to a group of islands. These islands would have different kinds of seeds to feed off of, and if those nuts were walnuts, the birds with the most powerful and largest beaks would get food the easiest. Thus, small beaked birds would die out, leaving the birds with the largest beaks. And it'd go on for generations, where the genes for large beaks would be brought together again and again. So they had evolved from a normal-sized beak to a larger. Its a theory as it HASNT been proven fully. Thats why its a theory which has a lot of evidence to support it but its not fully proved. There are still many gaps that need to be filled in before it becomes a Law. The line between laws and theories isnt that sharp. You'll find laws will have exceptions too. It will be IMPOSSIBLE to elevate the theory of evolution to the status of a law. Why? Because to do so, we will have to prove the working of the evolutionary theory in ALL evolution. Something that has been going on since the first glimmer of life on this planet. Is it really possible to prove the evolution of EVERY SINGLE species this planet has EVER seen? Of course not! Even on earth TODAY, we are not familiar with all the species of life. Which is why it will always remain a theory. | ||
Veigh
Netherlands300 Posts
On September 22 2004 16:07 Gandalf wrote: A hypothesis is a "guess" made. It becomes a theory when sufficient proof has been provided. A theory is NOT a best guess, its much more than that. A theory, essentially, will hold true in nearly all cases unless specifically proven otherwise. To simplify: Guess = Hypothesis You work on it, prove it = Theory Law = You work on the theory enough to show it has NO exceptions So a theory, for the most part, will be true, unlees its an EXCEPTION we're considering. To call it a "best guess" is just plain dumb. The guy who gave the example of the finches was right. But Gandalf, of course you know that a law only works in a specific scientific framework. Because, after a law has been established, more and more problems will arise with that law will appear, after a while they will become to big to keep the law believable. At that moment, the whole framework will collapse, there is a state of hyper-science, and after a while, everything will be settled and answered within a new timeframe. That's why we aren't completely Galilean and Newtonian anymore mmm, maybe a bit offtopic this whole story, I'd better go to bed | ||
Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On September 22 2004 16:08 SS-guy wrote: hey gandalf u been watching apes.... we never "evolved" from anything Theres essentially two different schools of thought. One, that we evolved from ape like ancestors. Enough proof of this has been found to at least warrant a theory. Two, that we were created as is, or the "religious" school of thought. We're not here to discuss which is right and which is wrong, but rather the falsability or the provability of either. So yes, it IS possible we evolved from apes, there is enough scientific data to at least warrant that assumption. What have you been watching? Dexter? Your ape like intelligence provides further proof. | ||
Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On September 22 2004 16:15 Veigh wrote: Show nested quote + On September 22 2004 16:07 Gandalf wrote: A hypothesis is a "guess" made. It becomes a theory when sufficient proof has been provided. A theory is NOT a best guess, its much more than that. A theory, essentially, will hold true in nearly all cases unless specifically proven otherwise. To simplify: Guess = Hypothesis You work on it, prove it = Theory Law = You work on the theory enough to show it has NO exceptions So a theory, for the most part, will be true, unlees its an EXCEPTION we're considering. To call it a "best guess" is just plain dumb. The guy who gave the example of the finches was right. But Gandalf, of course you know that a law only works in a specific scientific framework. Because, after a law has been established, more and more problems will arise with that law will appear, after a while they will become to big to keep the law believable. At that moment, the whole framework will collapse, there is a state of hyper-science, and after a while, everything will be settled and answered within a new timeframe. That's why we aren't completely Galilean and Newtonian anymore mmm, maybe a bit offtopic this whole story, I'd better go to bed I was going to state something similar, but you beat me to it. You're right, its infinitely difficult and tricky to elevate something to the level of law, simply because of the improbablity that EVERYTHING has been checked and proven. What if, the day after, a new objection were to be raise? Would we then revert it to theory status? And keep this conversion/reversion going on? Which is why the word that sticks to the side of a concept, either "theory" or "law", should not be delved into too deeply. We need to comprehend the mechanics of any theory or law, and use our own intelligence to derive conclusions. | ||
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