EPTJust about that hardline thinking in general; no, I don't think they should listen whatsoever to this Mohommed bullshit.
New Prohibitions on Muhammad Cartoons? - Page 10
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
Just about that hardline thinking in general; no, I don't think they should listen whatsoever to this Mohommed bullshit. | ||
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Xinliben
United States931 Posts
Should grabbing a house and shooting a wasp's nest be illegal? No, dumbass who does it deserves his wasps / darwin award. Should grabbing a house and shooting a wasp's nest out front of an elementary school while children are all around be illegal? Yes. If people want to do stupid things like invite the wraith of angry angry wasps, go ahead, but if you risk hurting innocent people, you should be punished accordingly. | ||
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Derminator
27 Posts
On December 14 2010 06:20 DragoonPK wrote: The thing that cracks me up is that people leave everything else in the world to make fun of and just concentrate on making fun of other people's prophets xD. Seriously guys, there are lots of other stuff you can go make fun of these days, go crazy! But in the ideal world, I wouldn't want people to make fun of figures that are really important to a group of people. I mean in all honesty, Prophet Mohammed was a great PERSON. If you don't recognize him as a prophet, then at least respect his personality which was even respected by the people who opposed him at his time. I don't enjoy people making fun of these great people that tried to send a pure message like Jesus, Mohammed and Moses (The three biggest religions). Just because of how much good they contributed to the world. Just like I would not like people making fun of other great figures such as Ghandi. Well sure people joke about things all the time. What I am saying is using and depicting these people in very offensive way is not the right thing to do. If you are a sensible person at least. If only we respected everyone equally we wouldn't have been in this mess of a world we are in right now. But oh well, its too fun to give up right? *sigh* Sure, because no one in the western world makes fun of anything else except religious figures, that's right... Do you have any clue how rife the western world is with satire and mockery of all kinds? The question isn't what DO people make fun of, the question is what DON'T they make fun of, and the answer is NOTHING. And yet, some Muslims are WILLING TO COMMIT MURDER because their beloved icon gets treated the same way as EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD. He may be sacred to a lot of people, but he's not to me, and that's what this whole issue comes down to. If someone believes that's an offense worth killing me over, then that's very useful information for me to know. | ||
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DragoonPK
3259 Posts
On December 14 2010 06:34 Krikkitone wrote: He was also a military leader/judge... he might not have started hitting someone if it would just make them mad, but he might have hit them/or instructed them to be hit in certain circumstances. (as would Moses... Jesus probably wouldn't, his mission wasn't governmental, but there was the incident at the temple) A story: There was once a Jewish man living near Prophet Mohammed's house. The guy hated the prophet to death, he kept throwing animal remains infront of his house, throwing stones at him etc. (Basically stuff to bother the prophet as much as possible. One day this man got sick. So the prophet went to visit the guy. The guy asked, why the hell did you come visit me I try to make your life a misery everyday. The prophet replied by saying, " I didn't see you bothering me the past couple of days so I came to see if something wrong happened to you". All in all this is just one case of how the prophet usually reacts to things against him. He was never an angry mindless killing machine some people accuses him and his religion of being. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
the crisis the drawings "caused" was just the icing on the cake, the provocations the muslim world in the middle east had gone through, made it a ticking bomb, and the drawings were just the trigger to it. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
If people want to do stupid things like invite the wraith of angry angry wasps, go ahead, but if you risk hurting innocent people, you should be punished accordingly. Or if the "wasps" are against abortion and start bombing clinics? Some innocent bystanders might get hurt. Should we punish them for doing this potentially dangerous thing? So if the "wasps" decide that it's not fine for me to eat meat and they start bombing mcdonalds? Should we shut down all Mcdonalds? If the church of scientology decides that they'll blow up people who draw pandas because pandas are sacred, should we punish those who draw pandas and are therefore public dangers? | ||
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DragoonPK
3259 Posts
On December 14 2010 06:43 Derminator wrote: Sure, because no one in the western world makes fun of anything else except religious figures, that's right... Do you have any clue how rife the western world is with satire and mockery of all kinds? The question isn't what DO people make fun of, the question is what DON'T they make fun of, and the answer is NOTHING. And yet, some Muslims are WILLING TO COMMIT MURDER because their beloved icon gets treated the same way as EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD. He may be sacred to a lot of people, but he's not to me, and that's what this whole issue comes down to. If someone believes that's an offense worth killing me over, then that's very useful information for me to know. Hey dude. Chill, I wasn't saying that people should go crazy like they did. Thats totally wrong and retarded. What I am hoping for which is proper respect to each other, will never happen I guess. People always find new things to make fun of  . | ||
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Longshank
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
On December 14 2010 06:41 Xinliben wrote: I just think of it like this. Should grabbing a house and shooting a wasp's nest be illegal? No, dumbass who does it deserves his wasps / darwin award. Should grabbing a house and shooting a wasp's nest out front of an elementary school while children are all around be illegal? Yes. If people want to do stupid things like invite the wraith of angry angry wasps, go ahead, but if you risk hurting innocent people, you should be punished accordingly. Do remember verbal and physical assault are on different level. Even If someone swear and say awful things at you, but if you're the one who threw the first punch, you'll be in trouble. I'm not saying the above is right, but things has different magnitude. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On December 14 2010 06:51 Longshank wrote: I can't feel sorry for Lars Vilks - he's just out to provoke and acts surprised when he gets a response. It's like strolling through Harlem in a KKK robe - sure you can do that but don't whining when you get your ass kicked. Yeah provoking people should result in death threats, that's how it works in a progressive civilization. Or it's proof that there's something seriously wrong with some idiots. | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
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Krikkitone
United States1451 Posts
On December 14 2010 06:41 Xinliben wrote: I just think of it like this. Should grabbing a house and shooting a wasp's nest be illegal? No, dumbass who does it deserves his wasps / darwin award. Should grabbing a house and shooting a wasp's nest out front of an elementary school while children are all around be illegal? Yes. If people want to do stupid things like invite the wraith of angry angry wasps, go ahead, but if you risk hurting innocent people, you should be punished accordingly. Should it be illegal for blacks visit a white establishment? No, If the KKK lynches them, that's the blacks problem But what if the KKK starts lynching blacks that "know their place" because their neighbors got uppity? Or worse if the KKK starts attacking "decent white folks" that go to that establishment that allows blacks? Or even if the KKK starts attacking random people in this town because it allows whites+non-whites to visit the same establishment? Well for the safety of all concerned we should make it illegal for blacks and whites to mix. Not to mention those Orientals.. we don't want any trouble, just ship them out somewhere. Shooting the wasp's nest near an elementary school should not be banned if the entire country consists of elementary schools. Indeed it should probably be awarded... you get rid of a few wasps. Now, if the situation were something like Nazi Germany demanding that Denmark hand over their Jews it Might be understandable, because Denmark could and was easily squashed by the Nazis, threatening their existence. But in terms of threats to existence, the Muslim world... well I guss it could threaten Sweden, if the entire rest of the Western world ignored the situation... Quite frankly the "existence threat" goes the opposite way, the Western world is capable of eliminating the muslim world fairly easily (although with diplomatic consequences) but not the other way around. | ||
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NobleDog
United States65 Posts
If we publish pics of Muhammad in the same vein we see those of Jesus and Buddha et al, Muslim critics ought to just have to live with it. If we can see a crucifix in a jar of urine we can treat Muhammad the same way. | ||
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LunarC
United States1186 Posts
I'd change justified to justifiable. | ||
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TALegion
United States1187 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On December 14 2010 06:53 furymonkey wrote: Do remember verbal and physical assault are on different level. Even If someone swear and say awful things at you, but if you're the one who threw the first punch, you'll be in trouble. Not if you're at the point of harassing someone, or so the cop told me when I asked. If you're harassing someone you they effectively instigated it! | ||
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DwmC_Foefen
Belgium2186 Posts
Go ahead, do your worst. PS: I like people who are not politically correct in this fucked up world. The more shins he kicks, the better. People are too sensitive. Extremists are too extreme. Let's just al sit in our chair and watch the clock tick. Gosh | ||
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SharkSpider
Canada606 Posts
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
On December 14 2010 04:29 darmousseh wrote: There is absolutely no reason anyone should ever be prohibited from doing anything they like. I'm sure you didn't really think about writing this down but you really should refrain from making such a huge retarded statement. No reason anyone should ever be prohibited from doing anything just because they like it? Murder, rape, hard drugs are all just fine and good cause the user liked it? Pretty dumb. The only controversial aspect of the free speech debate is the line of a reasonable limit. Anything in excess is bad. | ||
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