EPTBut in League of Legends they piss me off because they bring down the fun of the game by performing terrible.
Why does everyone hate noobs so much? - Page 4
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xLethargicax
United States469 Posts
But in League of Legends they piss me off because they bring down the fun of the game by performing terrible. | ||
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prochobo
United States232 Posts
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us.insurgency
United States330 Posts
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
present in almost every stream chat | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On December 01 2010 05:39 prochobo wrote: Because they don't use the damn search button. Where is the damn search button!? I'm serious, by the way. And where's the report button for posts? | ||
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Ripple818
United States87 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
only those who are ignorant, not grasping the idea of "everyone used to be a noob" will tend to bash on noobs, when usually they're noobs themselves. | ||
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infecteddna
Slovenia243 Posts
they so lame User was warned for this post | ||
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piskooooo
United States351 Posts
On December 01 2010 05:43 bonifaceviii wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 01 2010 05:39 prochobo wrote: Because they don't use the damn search button. Where is the damn search button!? I'm serious, by the way. And where's the report button for posts? Search is the bar on the top right, Report is the thing that says Report on the top right of each post... | ||
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OPSavioR
Sweden1465 Posts
On December 01 2010 04:14 Tien wrote: No one hates noobs. People hate noobs that think they know everything. SC2 brought an army of them here. spot on! | ||
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Piste
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YejinYejin
United States1053 Posts
On December 01 2010 06:26 Piste wrote: I never seen anyone hating noobs while playing bw :O I hate noobs when they're on my team, and ten minutes into the game, they've built nothing but cannons. Other than that, I'm fine with them, unless they act like they're the shit and they know everything, but that's not noob-specific. I think that's just a general trait that people tend to dislike. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23442 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.entropiaforum.com/gallery/files/7/9/8/9/noob_20vs_20newb.jpg) It's not problem asking for help and putting effort in. making a thread going "PvT, impossible to win?" and then posts a replay of his 1000 rating diamond play and the rest of his thread divulges into how its impossible for protoss to win and how terran cunters his every move. | ||
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sparkyk24
49 Posts
On December 01 2010 04:40 iamke55 wrote: For 99% of threads "you should suck less" rephrased is the best answer. At some point, noobs asking "how do i counter ________" need to realize that Starcraft is NOT about finding the magical solution to win. It's about playing better than your opponent, which for the lower leagues does mean "you should have better macro". Or scouting, in the case of void rays. As for what units you should make to beat void rays... well you should make something that shoots air, DUH. The simple truth is, unless the game is horribly imbalanced, "sucking less" is the best "counter" to whatever you're losing to. I couldn't disagree more. Playing better isn't just about macroing up, it's much more complicated than that. Even the pros lose to each other because their unit composition is off. For example, make something that shoots air? That's all? Any unit? Mass queens, then? Corruptors? Sometimes, the list of what units counter what unit aren't enough, and the game is endlessly complex. Maybe you're so awesome that you never needed to have this experience, but...I have had those magical solutions given to me, and all of the sudden I can beat an army composition that I never could before! On the other hand, I've outplayed my opponent in army size and macro, and lost terribly because I didn't realize how vulnerable one unit was to another. In short, "sucking less" is what they're asking about, so telling them that isn't helpful. Tell them, specifically, how. "How could I have played that game of basketball differently or better?" "You could have gotten more baskets than they did." Very cute, but not helpful. | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
On December 01 2010 04:13 sparkyk24 wrote: Everyone had to be new at some point. Sometimes, on the TL forums, I'll see a post with someone being like "how should I counter this army?" And a few people will actually be helpful while many others essentially say "you should suck less." i don't know about newbs but with this situation in particular usually people just post that to vent in strat and it gets frustrating to read all the time. it's never really a question asked earnestly, it's almost always implied that such and such combination is impossible to beat. like if someone asks how to beat sentry stalker you're just kind of like "..uh....make marine marauder". i mean the question is near impossible to answer definitively because they never post replays. | ||
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Tyree
1508 Posts
In general gamers, even myself can be pretty impatient with people who are new to games, forgetting that we were all once newbies and had no clue what we were doing. | ||
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agarangu
Chile274 Posts
The first online game I ever played was DotA, and due to the nature of the game (no matter how good you are, if there's a noob in your team it is like playing 4v6), lots of people hates noobs, insults noobs and even humillates noobs so they leave the game (and free the gold). That happens when you join a public game, but not many people have friends to play with when the just started playing an RTS. The next game you want to join, the guy that insulted you tells everyone you are a bad player, and they kick you out before the game even starts. It even happens in games with "noobs allowed", because there's always a good player feeling like pwning a newbie, looking for an easy game to win. If that's not hate, I don't know what it is. | ||
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Triss_Teh
United States32 Posts
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rally_point
Canada458 Posts
However - if you try to genuinely try to help someone, give them your best advice in the simplest form, and they don't use your advice it becomes annoying. For example, if my buddy in bronze asks me "what is the best way to improve?", I will suggest he should focus on macro concepts. If he then focuses on micro, and tells me he doesn't know what he's doing wrong, it will feel like he's ignoring my advice. This can peeve me to some extent, but at the end of the day if someone is trying to learn I am very patient and will do my very best to help them improve. Also, newer players that are cocky / know it all are disliked. These are the ones that whine about unit design and imbalance. These discussions show us that the players are blaming the game for their losses instead of blaming themselves. Pushing the blame to something else is never highly looked upon, especially when it's clear that you have other areas to improve on. I personally don't think balance matters until you are at the highest of skill levels (ie pro level). Up until that point improving your micro / macro / decision making can overcome your problems. Another type of person that fits into this group are the players that THINK they are good, and give out erroneous advice. I believe people get this impression for certain sc2 casters. If they give out poor advice to people that don't know any better it can be really frustrating. Also, the forum posters that criticize the pros and post "oh he CLEARLY should have just done this," could get on peoples nerves. There is a lot of thought that goes into competitive strategies and the environment is completely different, so saying something like this can be greatly disrespectful. Sometimes, we poke fun at noobs, but it's not meant to actually make them feel bad. For example when Tasteless or another caster jokes and says "noob, you can lower the supply depot between your cc and gas!" (actually I don't know if he's ever said that), it's all in good fun and of course he isn't trying to ward noobs away from sc2 (hell Tasteless has done a huge part in helping people get into the game). So if you hear jokes about noobs please take them lightly - we really do want you playing the game. I think this issue (if it's even an issue at all) can be boiled down to modesty. People need to be more modest with how good they think they are, be cautious about the advice they give out, and give more respect to the pros and people who have been a part of the community for a long time. | ||
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