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Why does everyone hate noobs so much? - Page 3
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.Aar
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couches
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holdthephone
United States523 Posts
On December 01 2010 05:05 Barrin wrote: In defense of the good players who die on that fight, it can get exceedingly exhausting trying to get it right every single time when your group keeps wiping. It is not hard to mess up when you're getting very bored of it. I myself have fallen victim of boredom deaths on that fight on multiple occasions. everyone has their moments, but some people literally can't understand or follow directions. they ruin raids, they ruin loot systems, they ruin the fun of the entire game. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
Specially for breakfast. | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
TL does not like propagating this concept, that's why it has such an amazing encyclopedia of Starcraft (Liquipedia, up at the top of the page) and strict rules about people asking questions without providing any content or initiating an intelligent discussion. People don't hate new players (in general), they hate lazy new players that think everything should be provided to them when there are TONS of resources out there, tutorial videos, guides, coaching, etc. It's akin to 'give a man a fish, he eats for a day; teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime.' | ||
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dolpiff
France300 Posts
However i think, and it should reflect even more so at live events, that anyone with an interest in the game, whatever their degree of proficiency at it may be, is not someone to bash, but really a potential pal to hang out and have fun with irl ! ps: i place myself in the noob players pool ofc ^^ also this was a win On December 01 2010 05:12 VIB wrote: Actually we love noobs. Specially for breakfast. | ||
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Talia
Germany64 Posts
But sometimes it can really be frustrasting to have noob in your team. In halo 3 you can't level up without winning games and you just win games with a good team. And in dota it's exactly the same just that the game is sooo much harder to get in to. That way you get even worser noobs and then the flame war begins.... | ||
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
On December 01 2010 04:14 Tien wrote: No one hates noobs. People hate noobs that think they know everything. SC2 brought an army of them here. Short, yet one of the most useful first responses I've ever see. Exactly this. | ||
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BruceLee6783
United States196 Posts
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ScrubS
Netherlands436 Posts
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ZerglingSoup
United States346 Posts
After all, your time spent playing video games probably won't make you a whole lot of money, won't necessarily make you smarter or healthier, and only in certain circles would it make you popular with the ladies. So aside from keeping your hand-eye coordination sharp, it has to count for something, right? Some people just play to have fun with it, while others seek to be rewarded for their time. The ability to feel superior, and at times, act superior is one of those psychological rewards. This is especially true in the gaming world where many teenagers abound and not all of them have reached full emotional maturity by the time they start engaging in online community activities. All that said, I really don't see that as a vibe here at TL.net. When I first started watching pro-Starcraft, the website SC2GG.com had just gotten off the ground. I participated there almost exclusively, assuming TL was more "elitist" just because of how knowledgeable everyone was. I don't know if things have changed here since then but I'm guessing I just needed to take the time to really understand how dynamic and overall well-mannered the community is. | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
The answers to nooby questions are easily found through the search function or google or any other number of resources, and to use the forum to voice these inane questions is terrible for the forum and community. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
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Provocateur
Sweden1665 Posts
On December 01 2010 05:00 Penke wrote: + Show Spoiler + First of all, I don't know the community super deeply. In fact, one might consider me a noob, but from what I've seen on this forum and in the starcraft community as a whole, people are way more nice and polite compared to what I've seen in many other games. This is actually one aspect of the game itself that I really like, and this thread would in my opinion probably be better suited in some other game's forum site. It feels like the community is overall more mature and intelligent, which is reflected in its friendlyness. Now, I don't suggest that this community or other games' communities can't or shouldn't improve on this point, because there definitely exists a lot of bad manners, even in this community. I feel, however, that this problem will, unfortunately, always exist as the internet works as it does. The anonymity that it gives has the effect of making people behave in a different way than they would in real life since, and I think this is a very natural thing to do. Everyone has of course seen the type of insulting comments that is all over youtube, blogs or and other internet locations, and I think this type of behaviour is not at all related to gaming in any case, but rather just a way to get rid of personal aggressions in a way that is completely anonymous and when doing this, you don't feel the same way as you would when talking to another human beings face, but rather to a random username who you will never ever meet, and who will never ever affect your life in any way. I think it's good that you brought up this issue. The only thing we can do about it however is to just ignore peoople who behave in an immature way and to behave in a friendly way ourselves so we can spread warmth throughout the internet and everybody will be a bit happier. :D I've experienced this as well and to me it seems like most people in the StarCraft community are starting to tolerate noobs a lot more. The most common problem in the interaction between a more experienced player and a noob is probably the experienced one trying to offer some advice while the noob feels patronized and responds by flaming. The experienced player that thought he was nice by giving some tips gets pissed and flames back. But if both are acting polite it can result in a really good and constructive discussion. I've experienced this a lot of times myself being at both ends of the equation. If I compare the atmosphere of the StarCraft community with for example the HoN community though I really get to appreciate that most people you encounter in SCII aren't flamers. I played quite a bit of HoN before the release of SCII and got used to just entirely ignoring the constant presence of flamers regardless of skill level. In SCII that I very rarely come across that kind of flaming/BM. So just the other week I played a couple of games of HoN and realized the enormous difference in attitude between the both communities. The HoN community is generally very aggressive and a lot of players really feel a need to prove their skill and greatness while the SC community is more laid back. Anyway it probably all comes down to pride, newer players should try to not be offended when someone points out flaws in their play and more experienced ones have to try to not be schmuck about it. Respect one another and we shall have gaming peace ^_^ | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2762 Posts
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
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Scorcher2k
United States802 Posts
On December 01 2010 04:13 sparkyk24 wrote: Do you think that other things (aka., sports, art, etc.) have as frequent of arrogance? Absolutely. This attitude happens in every part of life with people. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32159 Posts
On December 01 2010 05:30 Scorcher2k wrote: Absolutely. This attitude happens in every part of life with people. music snobbery overly aggressive retards in pick up ball games douchebags fighting in beer league hockey happens everywhere. | ||
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HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
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