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.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
November 30 2010 20:07 GMT
#41
Newb vs. Noob.

Learn the difference.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
couches
Profile Joined November 2010
618 Posts
November 30 2010 20:10 GMT
#42
It's because internet tough guys want to feel better about themselves and their accomplishments.
holdthephone
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States523 Posts
November 30 2010 20:11 GMT
#43
On December 01 2010 05:05 Barrin wrote:
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Example, Thaddius in Naxx was an infamous pug boss because kids couldn't tell the difference between a positive sign (+) and a negative sign (-). That's all the fight was. You see a sign, and you move accordingly. Rinse and repeat. Now some here may think I'm exaggerating. "hold the phone holdthephone! you're telling me people don't know the difference between a positive and a negative sign? that's a bit far fetched!"

In defense of the good players who die on that fight, it can get exceedingly exhausting trying to get it right every single time when your group keeps wiping. It is not hard to mess up when you're getting very bored of it. I myself have fallen victim of boredom deaths on that fight on multiple occasions.


everyone has their moments, but some people literally can't understand or follow directions. they ruin raids, they ruin loot systems, they ruin the fun of the entire game.

VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
November 30 2010 20:12 GMT
#44
Actually we love noobs.

Specially for breakfast.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
November 30 2010 20:16 GMT
#45
There are many people on the internet eager to please the ignorant "noob," willing to look stuff up for hours just to be helpful.
TL does not like propagating this concept, that's why it has such an amazing encyclopedia of Starcraft (Liquipedia, up at the top of the page) and strict rules about people asking questions without providing any content or initiating an intelligent discussion.
People don't hate new players (in general), they hate lazy new players that think everything should be provided to them when there are TONS of resources out there, tutorial videos, guides, coaching, etc.
It's akin to 'give a man a fish, he eats for a day; teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime.'
dolpiff
Profile Joined June 2010
France300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 20:17:23
November 30 2010 20:16 GMT
#46
I think this apparent 'hate' of noobs isn't really such a bad thing, it is more or less some kind of masquerade act put on by most of the community, but it acts as a motivation for those considered as 'noobs 'to strive to become better and more knowledgeable, so they feel less despised by the 'rest' of the community!

However i think, and it should reflect even more so at live events, that anyone with an interest in the game, whatever their degree of proficiency at it may be, is not someone to bash, but really a potential pal to hang out and have fun with irl !

ps: i place myself in the noob players pool ofc ^^

also this was a win

On December 01 2010 05:12 VIB wrote:
Actually we love noobs.

Specially for breakfast.


Talia
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany64 Posts
November 30 2010 20:16 GMT
#47
I don't think people really "hate" them.
But sometimes it can really be frustrasting to have noob in your team.
In halo 3 you can't level up without winning games and you just win games with a good team.
And in dota it's exactly the same just that the game is sooo much harder to get in to. That way you get even worser noobs and then the flame war begins....
Pandaaa
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
November 30 2010 20:16 GMT
#48
On December 01 2010 04:14 Tien wrote:
No one hates noobs.


People hate noobs that think they know everything.


SC2 brought an army of them here.

Short, yet one of the most useful first responses I've ever see. Exactly this.
Sup.
BruceLee6783
Profile Joined March 2007
United States196 Posts
November 30 2010 20:16 GMT
#49
Noobs don't like it when their lack of knowledge about something is exploited and used against them.
You have enemies? Good. It means you stood up for something.
ScrubS
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands436 Posts
November 30 2010 20:17 GMT
#50
It's not that gamers hate noobs, its just that gamers are in general extremely competative peope who look down upon bad players. And to be honest, I think sc2 is is very noob friendly game compared with WoW or shooters. There are tons of people who love to help noobs out a bit and the league system allows noobish players to play vs other noobs.
ZerglingSoup
Profile Joined June 2009
United States346 Posts
November 30 2010 20:17 GMT
#51
Not this community specifically, but in life in general, from time to time you run into small people who feel the need to put others around them down whenever they achieve something.

After all, your time spent playing video games probably won't make you a whole lot of money, won't necessarily make you smarter or healthier, and only in certain circles would it make you popular with the ladies. So aside from keeping your hand-eye coordination sharp, it has to count for something, right?

Some people just play to have fun with it, while others seek to be rewarded for their time. The ability to feel superior, and at times, act superior is one of those psychological rewards. This is especially true in the gaming world where many teenagers abound and not all of them have reached full emotional maturity by the time they start engaging in online community activities.

All that said, I really don't see that as a vibe here at TL.net. When I first started watching pro-Starcraft, the website SC2GG.com had just gotten off the ground. I participated there almost exclusively, assuming TL was more "elitist" just because of how knowledgeable everyone was. I don't know if things have changed here since then but I'm guessing I just needed to take the time to really understand how dynamic and overall well-mannered the community is.
Stream plz
_Darwin_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2374 Posts
November 30 2010 20:19 GMT
#52
Because people who post "omg roaches kill my zealots what do i do" or "collosus is impossible to beat plz help" are wasting everyone's time.

The answers to nooby questions are easily found through the search function or google or any other number of resources, and to use the forum to voice these inane questions is terrible for the forum and community.
I cant stop lactating
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
November 30 2010 20:22 GMT
#53
I do hate noobs when they are on my team, which is why I now play SC2 instead of DotA and LoL. I'm not sure why anybody would hate noobs in a 1v1 type of game; the kind of stuff you're talking about is just kids trying to feel important, and it's not at all restricted to the gamer community. See: gangsters, hipsters, art snobs, music snobs, jocks...yeah, pretty much everybody.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
November 30 2010 20:23 GMT
#54
On December 01 2010 05:00 Penke wrote:
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First of all, I don't know the community super deeply. In fact, one might consider me a noob, but from what I've seen on this forum and in the starcraft community as a whole, people are way more nice and polite compared to what I've seen in many other games. This is actually one aspect of the game itself that I really like, and this thread would in my opinion probably be better suited in some other game's forum site. It feels like the community is overall more mature and intelligent, which is reflected in its friendlyness.

Now, I don't suggest that this community or other games' communities can't or shouldn't improve on this point, because there definitely exists a lot of bad manners, even in this community.
I feel, however, that this problem will, unfortunately, always exist as the internet works as it does. The anonymity that it gives has the effect of making people behave in a different way than they would in real life since, and I think this is a very natural thing to do. Everyone has of course seen the type of insulting comments that is all over youtube, blogs or and other internet locations, and I think this type of behaviour is not at all related to gaming in any case, but rather just a way to get rid of personal aggressions in a way that is completely anonymous and when doing this, you don't feel the same way as you would when talking to another human beings face, but rather to a random username who you will never ever meet, and who will never ever affect your life in any way.

I think it's good that you brought up this issue. The only thing we can do about it however is to just ignore peoople who behave in an immature way and to behave in a friendly way ourselves so we can spread warmth throughout the internet and everybody will be a bit happier.

:D


I've experienced this as well and to me it seems like most people in the StarCraft community are starting to tolerate noobs a lot more. The most common problem in the interaction between a more experienced player and a noob is probably the experienced one trying to offer some advice while the noob feels patronized and responds by flaming. The experienced player that thought he was nice by giving some tips gets pissed and flames back. But if both are acting polite it can result in a really good and constructive discussion. I've experienced this a lot of times myself being at both ends of the equation.

If I compare the atmosphere of the StarCraft community with for example the HoN community though I really get to appreciate that most people you encounter in SCII aren't flamers. I played quite a bit of HoN before the release of SCII and got used to just entirely ignoring the constant presence of flamers regardless of skill level. In SCII that I very rarely come across that kind of flaming/BM. So just the other week I played a couple of games of HoN and realized the enormous difference in attitude between the both communities. The HoN community is generally very aggressive and a lot of players really feel a need to prove their skill and greatness while the SC community is more laid back.

Anyway it probably all comes down to pride, newer players should try to not be offended when someone points out flaws in their play and more experienced ones have to try to not be schmuck about it. Respect one another and we shall have gaming peace ^_^
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2747 Posts
November 30 2010 20:25 GMT
#55
Everyone worse than you is a noob, everyone better has no life.
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
November 30 2010 20:29 GMT
#56
love noobs. I make funny strategies when I meet them in ladder occasionally . I deliberately give up a base so that they think they are winning then roflstomp them by something silly. I know its bad
Its grack
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
November 30 2010 20:30 GMT
#57
On December 01 2010 04:13 sparkyk24 wrote:
Do you think that other things (aka., sports, art, etc.) have as frequent of arrogance?

Absolutely. This attitude happens in every part of life with people.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
November 30 2010 20:31 GMT
#58
Blizzard's ladder system gave every retard an unwarranted sense of self-importance because they managed to reach 2k diamond so now we have strategy discussions filled with know-it-all's thinking they are in the 99th percentile when in reality most of them are mediocre at best.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32046 Posts
November 30 2010 20:33 GMT
#59
On December 01 2010 05:30 Scorcher2k wrote:
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On December 01 2010 04:13 sparkyk24 wrote:
Do you think that other things (aka., sports, art, etc.) have as frequent of arrogance?

Absolutely. This attitude happens in every part of life with people.


music snobbery
overly aggressive retards in pick up ball games
douchebags fighting in beer league hockey

happens everywhere.
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HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
November 30 2010 20:37 GMT
#60
You can teach a noob how to play a game but a jackass is always going to be a jackass.
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