EPTplaying wow, or dota, or any heavily cooperative game with a noob is when the bashing really goes down. some noobs quietly take the beating while others get defensive, it's the defensive ones that drive ya nuts
Why does everyone hate noobs so much? - Page 8
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Shigy
United States346 Posts
playing wow, or dota, or any heavily cooperative game with a noob is when the bashing really goes down. some noobs quietly take the beating while others get defensive, it's the defensive ones that drive ya nuts | ||
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humansherdog
Canada85 Posts
they think all of their ideas are relevant. "hi i'm silver but i think x is OP". | ||
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Shigy
United States346 Posts
On December 01 2010 12:28 Minzy wrote: but if you can't make up for them, at least in DotA, expect to be flamed(in fact i have many fond memory's of flaming noobs out of games lovely, i have many fond memories of being on the receiving and of this assholism. i understand it, but damn it sucks when you're really trying to do good and some guy on your team calls you out every time you die | ||
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Tzel
United States72 Posts
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pfods
United States895 Posts
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Ghin
United States2391 Posts
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Wireless Mouse
6 Posts
I think it's a combination of arrogance and frustration that inevitably channels downward towards less skilled players. The newer you are, the more you feel it, but I think it happens at all levels of gaming. It is especially worse in team games where teams are inevitably going to get stacked in public games. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On December 01 2010 04:14 Tien wrote: No one hates noobs. People hate noobs that think they know everything. SC2 brought an army of them here. This. A lot of times, there are new guys that come onto TL with a lot of stuff to offer. Then you have people who's first post is to put up a link to their stream without even putting any major effort whatsoever. And then you have people who always say "hey guys, new user, long time lurker"....And then you get those exact same people writing posts about something that either doesn't make sense or is totally off the mark. It's when that happens that people start hatin' on the noobies. | ||
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pedduck
Thailand468 Posts
It 's difference thing on team play. Everyone would like to have skill player in their team. In a forum, noob is ok as long as they don't act like a pro. | ||
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x-Catalyst
United States921 Posts
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agarangu
Chile274 Posts
On December 01 2010 12:41 Ghin wrote: There's always someone willing to write a book about any subject. Being a noob just means you're too lazy to look for resources to get better. Well in my experience, no matter how much I read about how to play (the entire liquipedia's Terran Strategy, many times), and how much I practiced against the AI, the first time online they just crushed me. In SCBW, in a game titled "2v2 noob". I think playing against humans is the only way to really learn how to play. That's my humble opinion. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On December 01 2010 13:02 agarangu wrote: Well in my experience, no matter how much I read about how to play (the entire liquipedia's Terran Strategy, many times), and how much I practiced against the AI, the first time online they just crushed me. In SCBW, in a game titled "2v2 noob". I think playing against humans is the only way to really learn how to play. That's my humble opinion. I disagree. For the longest time, I always winged the way I played against other people. My builds were all based loosely around a concept of what I wanted. Sure I got D+, but I never got anywhere farther than that because I didn't have the resources and the study to advance to the next level. The other day I learned the proper timings and build order for the Flash Build, and my TvP ability just jumped straight through the roof after using it. While playing against humans helps you adapt to the creativity that humans possess, nothing is going to replace reading and studying how to play in general. | ||
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agarangu
Chile274 Posts
On December 01 2010 13:33 Zergneedsfood wrote: I disagree. For the longest time, I always winged the way I played against other people. My builds were all based loosely around a concept of what I wanted. Sure I got D+, but I never got anywhere farther than that because I didn't have the resources and the study to advance to the next level. The other day I learned the proper timings and build order for the Flash Build, and my TvP ability just jumped straight through the roof after using it. While playing against humans helps you adapt to the creativity that humans possess, nothing is going to replace reading and studying how to play in general. That's getting a little off topic, don't you think? In your example, you had been playing for a while and then you learned a build, and it worked. But by then you were no longer a noob or newbie ("...For the longest time..."), you were just playing without a build. You already knew the game, so the reading helped. When you really are a noob (someone who has just started) it does not matter how much you read. You need to practice against people in order to play well and gain the ability to follow a build order, for example. Maybe I didn't explane myself clearly in my first replay. Sorry about that. | ||
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whydowefall
United States9 Posts
Why would you want that? Why would you want the players to get better? The same can be said, to a much lesser extent, for Star Craft. You should love having players worse than you around! They are there for developing skills to use at higher levels, with a nice little boost to the winrate at the same time. And even if they are bad, they might not care, so why should you ruin the fun of a player who is just playing recreationally that you will never, EVER play again. So I'm not really surprised at how negative the SC community could be towards new players, no. But it does discourage a lot of players, who may have eventually gone on to do great things. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
Also, I play Halo online quite often, and my friends (who I now avoid on it), will just do the most RETARDED thing possible, then blame the game. They either say "That's BS" or "lolhax," when if they stopped blaming the game and thinking they were God, and watched some replays, they could be quite good. Those are the kind of noobs that I hate. Oh yeah, arrogant 12 year old noobs ftl. Edit: People who "hate" on the noobs are just as bad though. When I play a team game online (like on Halo), a lot of time if a guy doing really well has a team full of bad people, instead of trying to help, he just blames them. Saying things like "You guys fucking suck," and "You're all retarded," isn't really helping the team. So maybe part of it is selfishness. | ||
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hugedong
United States510 Posts
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Resolve
Singapore679 Posts
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TheGiftedApe
United States1243 Posts
ie: if your a newb act like it. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
However, I cannot respect someone just for being good at a game. Ultimately, it contributes little to society and the only people you can only brag about being good at a game to other nerds. Sadly, I wish this was the same for jocks. That is the reason why I like newbies. They often jump from one game to another quickly, but they usually bring the most fun to a game compared to the hardcore players who appear (but not at all) to believe that video games determine how good of a human being you are. | ||
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Ryndika
1489 Posts
I think it's mostly the arrogance that some newbies have. They come often with conclusion that the problem is in the game or someone else and not in themselves. Obiously this has something to do with age IMO which would explain the difference between WoW and EVE/SC communities. | ||
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