What this boilds down to, is basically personality.

There are the bad personalities, which often aspire to become the worst "noobs", unwilling to learn, listen and suggest.

And the friendlier and more rounded personalities, who aspire to learn and put advice to use in a contructive manner. People who analyze the situation, without first casting blame on everything and everyone besides themselves in a fit of fury and rage. Those are the noobs nobody likes.

As most people have already stated in this thread, I believe.

sikyon

Canada1045 Posts

November 30 2010 23:59 GMT

#122

Imagine that I'm in a warzone. Bombs are going off all around me, zerglings are rushing towards my position and my seige tank just got sniped by mutas.

And then the marine next to me turns around and says "how do I shoot out of the bunker?"

MasterFischer

Denmark836 Posts

December 01 2010 00:01 GMT

#123

On December 01 2010 08:59 sikyon wrote:
Imagine that I'm in a warzone. Bombs are going off all around me, zerglings are rushing towards my position and my seige tank just got sniped by mutas.

And then the marine next to me turns around and says "how do I shoot out of the bunker?"

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Ahhahahahahaha :D

That made me laugh.. Good one.

sl0w

United States447 Posts

December 01 2010 00:23 GMT

#124

On December 01 2010 08:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
In starcraft, there's nothing wrong with noobs. In fps games and dota, there is. When you have a teammate that drags you down, it's quite frustrating. Your overall game experience is being degraded because of their existence. That's why people hate noobs so much.

Starcraft has team games too you know. Although I only play team games for fun, it really is infuriating to be paired up with someone in 2v2 who goes mass DTs.

hoor3x

United States100 Posts

December 01 2010 00:26 GMT

#125

people that "hate" noobs got beat up in highschool

User was warned for this post

Offhand

United States1869 Posts

December 01 2010 00:28 GMT

#126

When you're 10 minutes into a game and the guy on your team only has a marauder and two marines, the word "noob" is a very appropriate description.

The word is pretty much reserved as an insult, there aren't too many self-admitted noobs (or maybe just an overwhelming number of oblivious idiots).

Supamang

United States2298 Posts

December 01 2010 00:38 GMT

#127

There are a couple reasons I can think of. The first is that the term "noob" is kind of a blanket derogatory term. Its kinda like people calling something "gay" or someone a "fag". They might not necessarily be suggesting that something or someone is homosexual, but they use that term to insult whenever they are frustrated.

Second, to go with the first reason, without face to face contact, it is easier to bitch someone out without consequence. Without face to face contact, people wont feel as sympathetic to a new person either. When someone isn't playing well, more experience people on their team will get frustrated and just go with insults instead of helping them out.

Third, avid gamers probably don't have a chance to feel better than others in real life nearly as often as theyd like to. They might be made to feel inferior in their normal life, so they want to make up for it when they play games. It feels good to be better than people at something, and putting people down online probably enhances this feeling of superiority.

Twitches

Canada365 Posts

December 01 2010 00:39 GMT

#128

I don't hate noobs or "noob thump." I think the term has just become a put down and is thrown around a lot of games as the community becomes increasingly elitist. As for the annoying part of why I think people dislike noobs, is because in some games you're very reliant on your team. The more team oriented the game.. The more noob bashing and worse the community seems to get (Such as Hero's of Newerth.)

That's just my two cents.

swanized

Canada2480 Posts

December 01 2010 00:40 GMT

#129

On December 01 2010 04:45 sammler wrote:
The best thing about SC2 is in-game, it's all down to you (1v1). When I tried to get into HoN and QL after quitting WoW, all I would get is 'teal leave' or 'leave tdm, quit browser'. I really liked those games but never even got a through a noob-labeled game without some sort of abuse. In the end, even though I wanted to get good at those games, it's hard to spend your precious free time being abused.

I remember playing ROC DotA and getting quizzed about items cost to see if I was a noob. at some point after getting quizzed enough I'd learn the quizzing patterns and memorize the costs and I could finally start playing DotA regularly

slappy

United States1271 Posts

December 01 2010 00:45 GMT

#130

everyone was a noob when they started

VIB

Brazil3567 Posts

December 01 2010 00:47 GMT

#131

On December 01 2010 09:45 slappy wrote:
everyone was a noob when they started

Only noobs say that. Personally, I pwned the doctor who tried to slap me when I was born and been rolling like that ever since.

Subversion

South Africa3627 Posts

December 01 2010 01:10 GMT

#132

putting down noobs makes ppl feel smart and elite, when in fact there's 1000s of people who could crush them and call them noob.

they know this, so they try and lift themselves up by stomping on others

Mohdoo

United States15725 Posts

December 01 2010 01:44 GMT

#133

The entire sc2 strategy forum is why. Noobs stay noobs because they can't recognize their own play flaws, rage, blame imba etc. Every play player i've ever met gas that kinda attitude. They want to be good, they play a lot, but they don't have what it takes to be good. Sound they blame other stuff and rage.

thoraxe

United States1449 Posts

December 01 2010 01:56 GMT

#134

What is the counter to Ultras as a Terran? Not counting flying units of course.

Setev

Malaysia390 Posts

December 01 2010 03:05 GMT

#135

On December 01 2010 04:54 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
There's noobs and there's noobs. Some are inquisitive and others are obnoxious. Just like there are pros who are pedagogical and pros who are idra.

Haha Idra can now be made into adjectives and verbs? Eg. I'm gonna Idra you if you MMM my zerg.~XD~

Kyhol

Canada2575 Posts

December 01 2010 03:10 GMT

#136

I don't really enjoy playing against noobs because I'd rather have a highly skilled opponent so that we can produce a good match.
I like the word noob, the word sounds like boob.
Boobies
Noobies....
<3boob

Igakusei

United States610 Posts

December 01 2010 03:13 GMT

#137

I love playing with noobs that are trying to learn. Most of my gametime is spent with silver-platinum players that I can beat most of the time, because it's lower stress than playing ladder and I love teaching.

The ones I get angry at are the ones that join my very hard or insane computer games when I'm trying to just take a break and have fun for a few minutes. Seriously guys, if you can't beat a medium computer by yourself, what the hell are you doing queuing vs insane in team games?

Tazza

Korea (South)1678 Posts

December 01 2010 03:16 GMT

#138

It's because it's human nature to want to feel dominance over others. When a person calls someone a noob, they're trying to establish dominance over that person. I don't think anyone hates noobs unless they're on their team because some people have to be bad for anyone to look good

mOnion

United States5657 Posts

December 01 2010 03:25 GMT

#139

With anything, including sports, the problem isn't the arrogance of the skilled, its the misplaced arrogance of the shitty. It annoyed me in track and it annoys me in SC2.

Minzy

Australia387 Posts

December 01 2010 03:28 GMT

#140

as a DotA player for many year's, i hate noobs for crapping all over the beautiful game, their garbage ability to be so unbelievably terrible at the game almost always results in a loss, no matter if you help them or not, they will be the reason you lose, now losing in a game where you know there is nothing you could have done to change that outcome is just plain irritating.

I could go play a garbage game(ie. LoL) which is noob friendly(respawning rax's, good idea), but skill and game mechanics are a must, im not saying im the best, im saying im one of the better player's, who wants to play with equally good players, i have no issue's losing in a game that was well played by both sides, i might even say GG. But losing because of someone else(noob) is infuriating, everyone DOES make mistakes, but if you can't make up for them, at least in DotA, expect to be flamed(in fact i have many fond memory's of flaming noobs out of games, from both my team, and the opponents, playing with 3 friends meant there was always room for 1 pub noob to be on our team), even winning against noobs is irritating.

For Starcraft/2, i dont really care, its 1v1, thats cool, of course i get pissed when they do some BS cheesy strat, but when i win, it just makes it that much more sweeter. for 2v2+... see above.