EPTWhy does everyone hate noobs so much? - Page 2
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Paer
Sweden121 Posts
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sammler
United Kingdom381 Posts
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
It makes veterans nervous as well-- There will always be a larger number of unskilled players than skilled players, and skilled players worry the voices of unskilled players will cause changes to the game that are unwarranted. That leads to a disliking, or, sometimes, "hatred" of newer players. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
Noobs are the ones that seemingly don't want to learn anything themselves and want everything spoonfed to them (or worse, even though you're a superior player, they won't listen). They jump into situations that they have no business being in. It's very frustrating to have one on your team, because the team's success usually requires individual skill across the board. Because of that, everyone's extra sensitive now and there's a lot of pre-emptive bashing. I remember one of my friends having questions about Ken in SF4 and posting them on SRK, he got trashed. Now he's probably one of (if not the) the best Kens in the US. People want to talk about how un-nooby they are, which is unnecessary and invites even more bashing. In sports you hardly see beginners play with average players because the embarrassment is just too much, that's what happens when you get into real life. It's not without its scrubs (oh, the stories I can tell while playing basketball) but generally it doesn't happen. You get dunked on, you're probably be laughed off. In a game, you get wiped out 0-20... whatever, join a new server, play another game, turn off the computer, nothing's changed. Since there's a ton of people playing that sport, you feel that if you bash someone else, there's someone else out there that is more skilled than you and would probably just embarrass yourself. | ||
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ddrddrddrddr
1344 Posts
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Neivler
Norway911 Posts
TL.net and almost any other community followes the Jante Law. They all think they are special and TL.net is not that diffrent, as the general concept here is that they are so much more special and better than everyone else, which is not true. + Show Spoiler + Don't think you're anything special. Don't think you're as much as us. Don't think you're wiser than us. Don't convince yourself that you're better than us. Don't think you know more than us. Don't think you are more than us. Don't think you are good at anything. Don't laugh at us. Don't think anyone cares about you. Don't think you can teach us anything. | ||
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ZerglingSoup
United States346 Posts
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-Frog-
United States514 Posts
On December 01 2010 04:55 Neivler wrote: It is not because the noobs think they know so much, but since the "pros" think they are so smart. There are a lot of them here at TL.net. They think they are so much better than eveyone else that they look down and talk trash about others. TL.net and almost any other community followes the Jante Law. They all think they are special and TL.net is not that diffrent, as the general concept here is that they are so much more special and better than everyone else, which is not true. + Show Spoiler + Don't think you're anything special. Don't think you're as much as us. Don't think you're wiser than us. Don't convince yourself that you're better than us. Don't think you know more than us. Don't think you are more than us. Don't think you are good at anything. Don't laugh at us. Don't think anyone cares about you. Don't think you can teach us anything. I would listen to this guy. He pwns noobs. | ||
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Sephy90
United States1785 Posts
On December 01 2010 04:14 Tien wrote: No one hates noobs. People hate noobs that think they know everything. SC2 brought an army of them here. Basically what this guy said, but honestly we shouldn't get riled up over people like this lol. | ||
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holdthephone
United States523 Posts
Mechanically, WoW is one of the easiest games on the planet. Do your spell rotation, watch a life bar, move here, move there. The challenge is weeding out all the people who lack basic motor skills and/or the ability to comprehend simple directions. Example, Thaddius in Naxx was an infamous pug boss because kids couldn't tell the difference between a positive sign (+) and a negative sign (-). That's all the fight was. You see a sign, and you move accordingly. Rinse and repeat. Now some here may think I'm exaggerating. "hold the phone holdthephone! you're telling me people don't know the difference between a positive and a negative sign? that's a bit far fetched!" You have no idea the extent of the stupidity that plagues WoW. I could drop a logical human being into that boss fight and he'd be able to get it right on his first try -- having never played the game before. I've honestly thought of writing a book on this shit. It's completely eye-opening. Strangely enough, some the worst players out there are the ones who play 60 hours a week. You can run a top guild in less than 15. | ||
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Penke
Sweden346 Posts
Now, I don't suggest that this community or other games' communities can't or shouldn't improve on this point, because there definitely exists a lot of bad manners, even in this community. I feel, however, that this problem will, unfortunately, always exist as the internet works as it does. The anonymity that it gives has the effect of making people behave in a different way than they would in real life since, and I think this is a very natural thing to do. Everyone has of course seen the type of insulting comments that is all over youtube, blogs or and other internet locations, and I think this type of behaviour is not at all related to gaming in any case, but rather just a way to get rid of personal aggressions in a way that is completely anonymous and when doing this, you don't feel the same way as you would when talking to another human beings face, but rather to a random username who you will never ever meet, and who will never ever affect your life in any way. I think it's good that you brought up this issue. The only thing we can do about it however is to just ignore peoople who behave in an immature way and to behave in a friendly way ourselves so we can spread warmth throughout the internet and everybody will be a bit happier. :D | ||
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theBlues
El Salvador638 Posts
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
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willeesmalls
United States477 Posts
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
BTW i think it has a lot to do with the fact that esport are pretty 1v1 focused whereas regular sport are mostly team based so you cant really say you PWNED someone when in fact it was the whole team. And even if you beat someone in 1v1 like in a basket, you can still be a WAY worse player than the one you just beat simply because theres A LOT more involved in a real match. | ||
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FrostedMiniWeet
United States636 Posts
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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PizzaHash
Netherlands76 Posts
On December 01 2010 04:14 Tien wrote: No one hates noobs. People hate noobs that think they know everything. SC2 brought an army of them here. This person speaks truth. I have played SC:BW since the start, but I am still a noob since I had too many distractions to become "pro". I joined TL forums for a year? now, and I see alot like me. And to many of my kind act all knowing, but actually spewing creep | ||
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NIIINO
Slovakia1320 Posts
1. noob = newbie. A lot of ppl even dont know what it is and use it every situation like you didnt something wrong you are nub 2. in WoW its normal that ppl get mad when they get nubz into the pug. specially in this times when its so hard to know who is good and who is bad player cause everyone can easily get epic gear and than in raid its just waste of time. 3. in FPS. like CS or CoD. Didnt they said to you nub when you owned em ? its funny cause this happened to me so often. we are playing CW we are winning but we are noobs. for some ppl noob = fucker. 4. In DotA games. = everyone is noob. Do they even type GLHF, GG or something ? its land of ultra killerz without past. made for owning nubzlordz. there are BMs in every game. its sad... really. 5. Yes everyone was once new in some point. We should let noobs play with noobs and pros play with pros. and if you dont like BM in games as i do just dont play team games : / | ||
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