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Mordanis
United States893 Posts
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:59 mordanis wrote: Just a quick question for everyone. I have a pair of Sennheiser HD 202 headphones and my computer doesn't have a dedicated sound card. I've recently noticed that the sound of trombones isn't ... right. I play trombone, so I am fairly familiar with the sound, and it just doesn't sound like a trombone. So is it an issue with my onboard sound being incapable of pumping out high quality audio or my headphones. One last thing I could think of is that I just ripped the song in question from an original (not burned from a pc) cd in lossless format, so I don't think thats the problem, but I have no idea. Get higher quality headphones before trying to improve source. On November 30 2011 14:04 cHaNg-sTa wrote: What's everyone's opinion on coiled vs. straight cords? I've been looking at Audio-Technica ATH-M50 and it comes in both coiled (4' to 9' extended) and straight (11' long) cords. I'm torn on which one to get. Anyone that has experience with both have a suggestion? I like straight. I like the extra length and I don't mind a cable hanging on the floor. | ||
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BuZZ123
United States262 Posts
What are the best earbuds with the best sound that I can buy for thirty dollars, and would be good at the gym? Thanks!!! | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:59 mordanis wrote: Just a quick question for everyone. I have a pair of Sennheiser HD 202 headphones and my computer doesn't have a dedicated sound card. I've recently noticed that the sound of trombones isn't ... right. I play trombone, so I am fairly familiar with the sound, and it just doesn't sound like a trombone. So is it an issue with my onboard sound being incapable of pumping out high quality audio or my headphones. One last thing I could think of is that I just ripped the song in question from an original (not burned from a pc) cd in lossless format, so I don't think thats the problem, but I have no idea. Depending on your expectations, even with many hundreds of dollars of gear, it may not sound "right." The low-end Sennheiser models are not particularly good; even for the price, there are often better alternatives. So there's a lot of improvement to be had, but I'm not sure if I'd expect it to ever sound that real, even assuming the recording and mastering is very good (even if it's CD quality, the sounds on the CD may not have been captured or processed that well to begin with). You may be missing the vibrations from sound waves hitting parts of the body other than the ears, and this is an issue with headphones in general. There's perhaps also the issue of volume. If you're used to playing or listening to trombone from fairly short distances, they can be quite loud obviously. Cheaper and smaller closed headphones--particularly those that do not create a very good seal around the ears--have lots of trouble reproducing bass frequencies well at high volumes. Expect 10% distortion and higher in those scenarios, even on many better headphones. I'm not sure how most onboard audio solutions are set up internally, but it's possible that they have some kind of DC blocking capacitor at the output. Particularly if this is sized improperly (too small) or has the wrong audio characteristics, this can roll off the bass, making the lowest tones a few dB or more quieter than the rest of the range, and introduce additional linearity problems. Onboard audio in general is not always of very high fidelity (often not that bad at all though), but as T.O.P alluded to, the headphones are a much much much bigger factor. You're looking for a headphones upgrade, if you're spending money. On December 02 2011 11:20 BuZZ123 wrote: Hey! I already have a nice gaming headset for my pc, however, I am now getting into working out and weightlifting. I get rather bored while I am at the gym and would like to get some nice earbuds to go with my newly purchased sansaclip. Since it is only to workout, I have decided that thirty dollars is the limit for my investment here. What are the best earbuds with the best sound that I can buy for thirty dollars, and would be good at the gym? Thanks!!! I'm not so sure about looking for sound quality first when working out, since it's hard to get a consistent sound while moving around, much less exercising. Typically, a consistent fit, wearing comfort, microphonics (hopefully no massive cable noises whenever you move), isolation from outside noises, build quality, etc. (which would ensure more consistent sound, thus better sound quality in practice?) tend to play a bigger role. Meelectronics have several models that are pretty sturdy and built well, and have a sound most people would like. Try the M6? Something else? | ||
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Myrista
United States32 Posts
i want cheap and not shitty headphones no skullcandy bullshit etc etc | ||
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
I have been thinking about getting a headphone for a long time(newbie audiophile) and I have glanced through this thread randomly at times. Considering that I want to buy a headphone, what would be a good starting choice? I heard alot about ATH-AD700 and ATH-M50, but many people say those are actually just average in all aspects. Should I buy them though since the only headphone i own now is a steelseries siberia headset or are there other better options? I use my headphones primarily for listening to music and playing games only though(not for working out). What im looking for is mainly comfort, affordability and sound quality. I don't really need that much bass oomph since i listen to a wide range of music, from rock to orchestra (no jazz though). Also just a question that i don't know whether it belongs here or not, but my headphone has been emitting static or crackling noises whenever i play dota 2 or starcraft 2. It works fine with playing music and other games though, so does that mean my soundcard is of too low quality and not that my headphones are spoilt? | ||
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EternitysEnd
United States30 Posts
They are a little snug for my liking, but they are new and at least that means they don't slide around...unless I start some heavy headbanging. Also, each side of the set can be adjusted separately so as to accommodate one of your ears being slightly higher/lower than the other. They are circumaural and block a good deal of exterior sound, but not all. Cost maybe 60 dollars (?), off amazon. Just figured I would post this in case it helps anyone...PM if you need something more specific. | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
http://www.nixiekits.eu/MiniHeadphoneAmp.htm Decided to get the kit instead of having it pre-built, I'm confident enough to build it myself and I'll find it really rewarding. Next time maybe I'll design my own instead of just a kit. Anyone built one before and have any tips before I start? I think it's going to take about a week to arrive. I'll post again when I'm done to report on how it sounds. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On December 02 2011 13:33 Myrista wrote: are koss portapros still good in this day and age i want cheap and not shitty headphones no skullcandy bullshit etc etc Sure. They're still popular. Just make sure that's the ergonomics, fit, sound leakage, etc. you are looking for. On December 03 2011 16:17 Invictus wrote: I have been thinking about getting a headphone for a long time(newbie audiophile) and I have glanced through this thread randomly at times. Considering that I want to buy a headphone, what would be a good starting choice? [snip] Also just a question that i don't know whether it belongs here or not, but my headphone has been emitting static or crackling noises whenever i play dota 2 or starcraft 2. It works fine with playing music and other games though, so does that mean my soundcard is of too low quality and not that my headphones are spoilt? As mentioned above, try it out before buying if possible. ATH-M50 clamp and shallow cups may not suit everyone, and ATH-AD700 may be a bit too loose (and touch weird places on the ear, albeit lightly) for others. There's no model that everybody likes, in terms of fit or sound. Have you tried the back panel connection for the audio, if you're currently using the front panel? Sounds in DOTA2 or SC2 but not otherwise seem to imply that the increased load on the CPU and GPU are causing electromagnetic interference or other electrical disturbances that are being picked up somewhere in the audio chain (most likely, the cables aka "antennas" running past such noisy sources). On December 04 2011 05:16 Deadeight wrote: I've just ordered a new headphone amp kit from Nixie: http://www.nixiekits.eu/MiniHeadphoneAmp.htm Decided to get the kit instead of having it pre-built, I'm confident enough to build it myself and I'll find it really rewarding. Next time maybe I'll design my own instead of just a kit. Anyone built one before and have any tips before I start? I think it's going to take about a week to arrive. I'll post again when I'm done to report on how it sounds. Seems interesting. Many projects are documented much less well. 10+% IMD even into 150 ohms (easy), at levels below 0.2V (reasonable listening levels)? IMHO getting such an amp is like buying green-tinted swirly goggles to put on before going to the art museum--maybe cool but not something I'd spend money on to use regularly...anyway, to each his own. For normal electronics stuff, it helps a lot to have the right tools for the job, like a reasonably good temp-controlled soldering iron and decent solder of proper gauge. But the hole spacings for that amp in particular look pretty wide, so it should be pretty easy even with sub-par gear. I don't solder that much though. Do all the usual things like not work on carpet and ground yourself first, and be careful with some of the more sensitive components (but I don't particularly see anything especially prone to dieing there). edit: how's the kit come like? It's easier to have a list of parts handy (and the schematic) and cross off the parts as you put them in. I'd put multiple components into the board at a time and then solder them all at once, rather than one at a time...flipping twice for every component can get old fast. These tips are just IMHO though. | ||
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Neurosis
United States893 Posts
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zZygote
Canada898 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On December 04 2011 06:26 zZygote wrote: Planning on picking up a SRH-440 for Boxing Day, is $99 a good price for these headphones? I'm also planning on travelling with it, is it durable if I decide to pack it in a backpack? Is it an L-connector or a straight one? Thanks guys Price is around 80 USD I think usually (higher now). Canadian prices on headphones are usually a lot higher, so 99 CAD sounds good to me. I don't know if I've ever seen full-size headphones with an L-connector. These are straight I, and detachable on the headphones side...so you could use your own anyway. | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
On December 04 2011 06:15 Myrmidon wrote: Seems interesting. Many projects are documented much less well. 10+% IMD even into 150 ohms (easy), at levels below 0.2V (reasonable listening levels)? IMHO getting such an amp is like buying green-tinted swirly goggles to put on before going to the art museum--maybe cool but not something I'd spend money on to use regularly...anyway, to each his own. For normal electronics stuff, it helps a lot to have the right tools for the job, like a reasonably good temp-controlled soldering iron and decent solder of proper gauge. But the hole spacings for that amp in particular look pretty wide, so it should be pretty easy even with sub-par gear. I don't solder that much though. Do all the usual things like not work on carpet and ground yourself first, and be careful with some of the more sensitive components (but I don't particularly see anything especially prone to dieing there). edit: how's the kit come like? It's easier to have a list of parts handy (and the schematic) and cross off the parts as you put them in. I'd put multiple components into the board at a time and then solder them all at once, rather than one at a time...flipping twice for every component can get old fast. These tips are just IMHO though. I agree it's not standard, looked interesting so thought I'd give it a go. I've got another more standard headphone amp that I've been using for a while and I didn't want to just build one that will be identical. I'm going to do it in the lab at uni so all ok for equipment I think, and thanks for the tip of sticking multiple things in at once, hadn't really thought about that. | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On December 04 2011 09:38 Xinder wrote: I'm sure it's been answered to death a few times over but I went back about 10 pages and didn't see anything to my question. I have a pair of Audio Technica M-50s for home but obviously they're not the most super portable for trips or while I'm at work. I like listening to dubstep and am curious of any good earbuds out there for dubstep. Or if there are just an in general all around good earbud I'd settle for that too. I just like the comfort and portability that earbuds have so if there are any that can match up with some of the over the ear headphones that'd be awesome. Price isn't too big of a deal though sub $300 would be nice I think Triple Fi 10 offers the best sound quality at the everyday low price they're selling at. http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Ears-TripleFi-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B0019RBJOE ($161 right now) I have it and I feel that the comfort part of this in ear monitor is really below average. It's one of the biggest and heaviest IEMs out there. In fact I wear it backwards for increased comfort. But the sound is good. It's great for dubstep because it has great bass. | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
On December 04 2011 09:49 T.O.P. wrote: I think Triple Fi 10 offers the best sound quality at the everyday low price they're selling at. http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Ears-TripleFi-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B0019RBJOE ($161 right now) I have it and I feel that the comfort part of this in ear monitor is really below average. It's one of the biggest and heaviest IEMs out there. In fact I wear it backwards for increased comfort. But the sound is good. It's great for dubstep because it has great bass. So are they not as comfortable for you when you wear them with the cord wrapped behind your ears? | ||
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buddahbrot
Germany47 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.muenster.de/~w.beinha/SE/IMAGES/HIFI/wolfb_sf5mod3.jpg) Theoretically you can wear them with the cord straight down instead of over the ear, but they won't hold in your ear very long because of the weight of the speaker plus the force being applied directly to it instead of on the ear. | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
On December 04 2011 10:21 buddahbrot wrote: He probably refers to the "flipside mod", which means swapping the left and right speaker (the triple.fi have detachable cables). The result looks like this: + Show Spoiler + Theoretically you can wear them with the cord straight down instead of over the ear, but they won't hold in your ear very long because of the weight of the speaker plus the force being applied directly to it instead of on the ear. Ohhh. Ok thanks. Reading some of the reviews from Amazon people have said they've had some cable issues and had to have them replaced 2 or 3 times in a year. What is your guys opinion on the durability of those earbuds? | ||
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On December 04 2011 10:25 Xinder wrote: Ohhh. Ok thanks. Reading some of the reviews from Amazon people have said they've had some cable issues and had to have them replaced 2 or 3 times in a year. What is your guys opinion on the durability of those earbuds? I think they're quite durable. | ||
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