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On April 24 2004 04:55 FrozenArbiter wrote: I've played a couple (maybe just one, can't remember) japanese people in War 3, and I know there is a japanese version of starcraft (language, not a unique game). | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On April 23 2004 11:14 iggs999 wrote: agony im sorry but you are really really stupid if you dont see what they're trying to say you might not RELATE to it but i know you see the logic in it and are just trying to drag it out i clearly see what they're saying and yes i would be fucking pissed if that shit happened to me in that situation (ie living in korea when it happened) you say it happened 50 years ago but where do you draw the fucking line? 50 years is NOTHING. do you realize that there are a vast number of veterans still alive? would 30 years be unjust? how about 20? 10? yeah........IF AN ENTIRE FUCKING COUNTRY REFUSES TO APOLOGIZE for ATROCITIES which were directly commited by their grandparents or parents, i think thats a pretty valid reason to be pissed the fuck off. if you dont see that then you must have a problem  A goverment! And as We Want Peace&Co has pointed out; they don't educate the japanese people as to what really happened (I don't know anything about this but if it is true it kinda counteracts their points - how can they apoligize for something they are not aware of?). | ||
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we want peace
China202 Posts
Your comment is very considerate! | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
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On April 24 2004 04:44 we want peace wrote: Yeah, maybe you are right in terms of the poll in Taiwan. But any use of that? Only the opinions of most people can count! The president of Sweden should be selected by most Swedish people, but not 0.001% of your population, isn'it? Taiwan is recognized as a sovereign nation isn't it? http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/tw.html I mean, should really the Chinese people in, say, Manchuria decide what happens to the people living in the other end of the country? Shouldn't local issues be decided by local people? | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
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we want peace
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But I can't understand, why you want to break China into pieces?Is that a meaningful action? On April 24 2004 05:08 FrozenArbiter wrote: Taiwan is recognized as a sovereign nation isn't it? http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/tw.html I mean, should really the Chinese people in, say, Manchuria decide what happens to the people living in the other end of the country? Shouldn't local issues be decided by local people? | ||
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MoltkeWarding
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Liquid`Jinro
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On April 23 2004 16:29 Sporty wrote: As a person of taiwanese descent, i understand why chinese hate japs. Koreans a little less so. Read your history, the koreans did some of the dirty work for the japs. The japs simply massacred the chinese. Anyway debts still remain unpaid as far as chinese are concerned and interest has been accruing for the past 60 years == big payback in the future. .. No all they did was ban everything korean! They even changed the countries romanized spelling from Corea to Korea because it's unacceptable for a 'colony's name to be ahead of Japan in the alphabet.. They forceably drafted Koreans into their army and were rather (read: extremely) harsh on enforcing their policies. And I do believe people here have mentioned the countless rapes etc? But yeah, maybe not quite the same impact as on china but still. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On April 23 2004 16:27 we want peace wrote: So it's your own partial oppinion,which can't represent most Koreans. It's nothing wrong to live in a communist country. And it's also my right to do so! As a matter of fact, I can complain to our municipal gov for unsuitable things existed in my city through email, and I can get satisfactory answer. I think it ridiculous for you to fear communist, anything wrong with that? I think it quite right for China to select as communist system, not interfering by anyone else! You didn't elect them.. I do believe the Chinese goverment is definately improving but it is not a democracy.. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
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On April 23 2004 16:30 we want peace wrote: Liberate Tibet? hehe, you can try that. And you will face the strong resist made by the Chinese people! The public opinion of the CHinese people regard Tibet is a part of CHina, those who ignore that knows nothing about democracy or at least fake democracy! .. Well you took it by force, granted - before your invasion it was a rather poor country, as well as ruled by one person. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
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On April 23 2004 16:43 we want peace wrote: Stop your rude words which shows your lack in education! It's your own right to continue your unfair feelings and twisted opinion about CHina! And it's your own opinion to ingnore the public opinion of China , shouting we want to lerbrate Tibet, and the result of which is doing nothing because of your coward nature! You want democracy, but you are ignoring other people's opinion. So it's the democracy of yours but not other people's! Stop your hypercritical Your country has taken a lot of areas that prior to the cultural revolution was not at all part of China I believe..-_- Please, if you want to critcize the Japanese goverment, do not turn your blindeye towards home.. It will make you lose all your credibility | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
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On April 23 2004 17:03 we want peace wrote: You can say that the public opinions of CHina to TIbet is annexing, disregarding the core of demacracy that is the repect of the opinions of most people. Actually the Chinese common people have a strong willing in uniting our country. SO why do you neglect most people's opinion? Is that democracy? Okay, here's an example: Let's say the majority of the Swedes, Danes and Norweigans wanted a unified Scandinavia, but the other countries (Finland and Iceland) did not - do you think it would be our democratic right to invade them, and through means of force include them in our unified Scandinavia? | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
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On April 23 2004 22:29 we want peace wrote: I should say that I know very little about Tian AN Men Square Incident.But if it were true as you have described, yes, the gov of course should say sorry to the common people. But, you said that Chinese soldiers raped women, ok, give me the evidence or pics. I really do not know that, I need to read the pics and then can believe that. What's more, the topic is how Japan acts horribly in the past, but you mentioned Tian An Men, which is far from the topic. If you want to say that, that's ok, please set up another topic! Japanese, Chinese, Koreans or Swedes.. We are all human, and war is always horrible, no matter if it's americans, chinese, japanese or whoever involved.. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
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On April 23 2004 23:13 we want peace wrote: I have big problem with appology? Tian An Men Square is not caused by me, why should I say sorry to that?Will you be a little logic when sending your post? Why do you twist my idea by saying I hate Japan today?What I hate is the gov of Japan, who denied the existence and slaughter their older generation have done, not alone the apology from them.But getting sorrow expression from them is our right, for we have not got a correct explaination of why they did that till now! You are not Chinese, and of course you will not have the same idea as we do! So it's no strange why you set up the unreasonable and biased words. It's caused by your goverment (which you support), just as what the japanese did was not caused by them directly but rather by their goverment. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
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On April 24 2004 05:14 we want peace wrote: Manchuria is named by Japanese invaders. This part is located in the north-eastern China. But I can't understand, why you want to break China into pieces?Is that a meaningful action? Ah, about the Manchuria thing, what I meant is that you should have politicians deciding on a local level maybe? I mean, the US has it's states etc. China is a big country. However, you should acknowledge the fact that you did invade a lot of independent countries which are now part of China. I mean absolutely no offense - also, my knowledge of this particular subject is very much limited so I think I'll refrain from commenting on it any further as I feel I'm stepping out unto thin ice  | ||
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Honk2000
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we want peace
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On April 24 2004 06:33 Honk2000 wrote: in my class there is one japanese guy and he's a little bit weird. he says things like korea will one day belong to japan and he's not willing to accept that japan did mistakes in the past. on tv i saw a documentation that in japanese school book is written that the kamikaze pilots are heroes and they should worship them and so on. so they don't teach them the truth about the past. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
I'm korean but I'm positive that if I ever said that in a korean crowd, I'd be classified as unpatriotic when in fact I'm trying move on. I don't give a shit what happened. Wars happen all the time. Hating your own generation of another country because of a war or event 3 generations ago is stupid. Nobody gives a shit about your family's gossip. Learn to think. bye. | ||
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we want peace
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You and I have completely different thought! On April 24 2004 06:54 Heen wrote: Get over history that does not affect you. I'm korean but I'm positive that if I ever said that in a korean crowd, I'd be classified as unpatriotic when in fact I'm trying move on. I don't give a shit what happened. Wars happen all the time. Hating your own generation of another country because of a war or event 3 generations ago is stupid. Nobody gives a shit about your family's gossip. Learn to think. bye. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
While you're at it, why don't you trace back 2000 years ago and make a hate list. | ||
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Its you that has the big problem with apologies, not me. If an indian wishes to hate me because of something that happened that long ago, id think as much of him as i think of you. I really don't see why you have to express all this anger at current day japan. Why not forgive? If everyone displays hostility as you do, this world would be a seriously fucked up place. I think pretty much every country has done something in the past that could be held against them, luckily the majority of people aren't as small minded as you.
