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Fefnir
United States50 Posts
Just depends on how comfy you are =) Windows>whatever POS Jobs thinks is good "Steve Jobs owns a PC!" lawl | ||
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PrincessLeila
France170 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15345 Posts
On June 08 2010 03:09 7mk wrote: Those are really something I dont care about.. and sure as hell not something I'd be willing to pay 1000€ extra for Plus battery life isn't even necessarily true, like I said there are notebooks with 10h+ battery life I'd really like to hear zatic's take on what he likes so much about it, I'm curious since I've never had a macbook pro Quality, battery, power, weight, display just don't come as good in one package anywhere else. It's not like it's the best in each category but if all those are important to you than the MBP will offer the best overall combination, if that makes any sense. For example I was long considering getting a Samsung X460 which looks comparable to a MBP on paper, but just working on both for 5 minutes is such a difference. Build quality is just second to none with the MacBooks. I wouldn't trade it for the touchpad alone now. I don't know why nobody else can build something seemingly so simple as a touchpad as well but when I switch to my work laptop (Lenovo) it feels like I going back to using a ball mouse. For reference I was never a mac head and the first thing I did on the MBP was install windows, so I really don't like it for OSX but for the hardware. | ||
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SilentCrono
United States1420 Posts
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LaustinSpayce
United Kingdom58 Posts
There are some programs that you can only run on OS X - if that's the case, then get a mac. (Logic Pro is my 'killer app' I need OS X for).Macs are generally decent with the CPU, but a bit rubbish on the GPU, they have a ton of extra stuff in there you may or may not use, like Firewire 800, Bluetooth, digital audio inputs and the like, do you want these? Do you need these? Is the extra cost justified? I agree with Zatic that the MBP trackpad is fantastic. It's also worth getting the matte-screen option. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
I will probably be buying a Sager, Lenovo or an MSI Getting iPhone 4G though. its too amazing to pass up  | ||
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artofmagic
United States1951 Posts
On June 08 2010 01:03 Jayme wrote: And I have to completely disagree. I would use my IBM laptop over this stupid MPB i'm forced to use any day of the week. I did decide to try a Mac just to see how i would like it but i can honestly say it hasn't been THAT awesome. Sure the startup is fast and OSX is obviously superior to say Vista...but Windows 7 has closed that gap greatly and for me windows allows me to do the things I want to do on it without jumping through hoops. Also my MPB could probably boil water on it with how freaking hot it gets sometimes. And yes, this is a 2010 MPB, if you do anything more than surf the internet on it you will burn skin on your legs if you aren't paying attention. Yes there were/are several brands that also have those features like IBM/Lenovo. I think Asus are doing quite well in that part too. But in general all macbook's line up(current) have the same unibody, battery technology, etc. Compare to HP some are just fat-ass heavy and only the hi-end models have the better build quality and features. And yes heating problem might occur if you do intensive computing on a macbook. But as a mobile computer, intensive computing is less of a concern and less common. Mind mentioning on task you have to jump through hoops to execute in OSX? | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On June 08 2010 08:56 Mykill wrote: thanks for all the advice guys! I will probably be buying a Sager, Lenovo or an MSI Getting iPhone 4G though. its too amazing to pass up nice choice, all offer great value Lenovo always has 20% off "coupon" that you can use on any of their notebooks. | ||
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aiyeeta
United States199 Posts
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machinus
United States291 Posts
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
On June 09 2010 03:35 machinus wrote: Why would you ever waste money on apple decorations? people like them some people shell out lots of money for cases on the iPods etc. | ||
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Slunk
Germany768 Posts
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samalie
Canada87 Posts
On June 08 2010 07:07 Jibba wrote: If you're going to compare the big boys, you should really just use the Envy 17, MSI GX740 or Asus G73 to the 17" Macbook Pro. Between the Macbook and an Alienware, I'd take the MBP. Envy 17 is like $1600, GX740 is $1400 and the different G73 models go from $1400-1900. You can also get good Bing Cashback deals on all the PC laptops. HP sometimes does 25%. Anyways, not sure where the OP went but he should really pose his question here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/what-notebook-should-i-buy/ Most people on TL don't know what they're talking about. >.> You'll get less biased answers there, with less PC and Mac fanboys, and people are up to date. You won't get anyone recommending their 3 year old Thinkpad, or people trying to win arguments with image macros... >.> Just priced the Envy 17, for the hell of it (again, trying to compare as directly as is possible). I won't go as deep in the analysis as I did last time, but with a quad-core I7 instead of the dual-core in the MBP/Alien, and the ATI 5850 GFX card, adding in the photo editing & other nicities that come with the MBP (or at least a PC equivalant) came out to $2,374 USD. At today's exchange, that works out to $2,474.06 CAD. THis time, a savings of $150 over the education store at apple for a similar MBP, give or take. Yes, the Envy is a better deal...but I would argue that overall the MBP is the better notebook. Face it, bottom line, while the MBP definetely commands a premium pricetag, once you get down and dirty the premium isn't that huge...at most 10-15%. Factor in the fact that you can easily sell a well taken care of MBP 3 years later for 25% of its original value...and the "Apple Tax" vanishes entirely. PC's will always be cheaper up-front, but Mac's Total Cost of Ownership is way less. Again, credentials, I'm a PC guy & database developer (Microsoft) for 15 years...I love the PC...but Mac's aren't the piles of crap they once were on a price comparative basis anymore. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 07 2010 12:39 n.DieJokes wrote: Do not get an HP laptop, the bloatware alone is enough for me to never use one again Why would you ever use a prebuilt PC without first reformatting the hard drive? | ||
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Soel
90 Posts
got 100$ off as a student, and 30$ off iWork, so that only cost 40$. ( microsoft office student edition is like 180$) Making the total be 1140$ before tax I also got a free ipod touch which I already sold, a day later, for 175$, and I got a free printer worth 150$ which I would have bought anyways. So i figure this beautiful laptop cost me only about 815$ Anyone trying to say thats not a good deal is crazy | ||
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AlliNPreFlop
59 Posts
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Neo7
United States922 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:52 samalie wrote: Just priced the Envy 17, for the hell of it (again, trying to compare as directly as is possible). I won't go as deep in the analysis as I did last time, but with a quad-core I7 instead of the dual-core in the MBP/Alien, and the ATI 5850 GFX card, adding in the photo editing & other nicities that come with the MBP (or at least a PC equivalant) came out to $2,374 USD. At today's exchange, that works out to $2,474.06 CAD. THis time, a savings of $150 over the education store at apple for a similar MBP, give or take. Yes, the Envy is a better deal...but I would argue that overall the MBP is the better notebook. Face it, bottom line, while the MBP definetely commands a premium pricetag, once you get down and dirty the premium isn't that huge...at most 10-15%. Factor in the fact that you can easily sell a well taken care of MBP 3 years later for 25% of its original value...and the "Apple Tax" vanishes entirely. PC's will always be cheaper up-front, but Mac's Total Cost of Ownership is way less. Again, credentials, I'm a PC guy & database developer (Microsoft) for 15 years...I love the PC...but Mac's aren't the piles of crap they once were on a price comparative basis anymore. You're doing it wrong. Envy 17 from Amazon Processor: i7 720QM RAM: 8GB DDR3 @ 1333 HDD: 640 GB (2x320 7200rpm) Display: 17.3" 1920x1080 FHD Video card: ATI Radeon 5850 mobile Other 'extra' features: USB 3.0, Intel 6200 wireless card, Beats audio speakers (actually 2.0 speaker quality laptop speakers), 1x eSATA, 1x HDMI, 1x Mini Display port, 1x VGA $1649.99 Default 17" MBP (upgrading ram and harddrive is a ripoff through both HP and Apple, I see no reason to do it to either) Processor: i5 540 RAM: 4GB DDR3 @ 1066 HDD: 500GB (5400rpm) Display: 17" 1920x1080 FHD Video card: Nvidia GT 330M Extras: MagSafe power port, Firewire, 1x Mini Display port, best battery life of any 17" laptop $2299 They both have backlit keyboards, multitouch trackpads, metal case, etc. Apple has much better support and reliability, but again, in specs, the machine that's $600 cheaper crushes it in performance. Not just beats, but crushes it. And if you're going to use the 10% Apple student discount (fyi, my school had Dell and CDW discounts as well), you should probably also consider the 25% Bing Cashback that goes on twice a month (until 7/30  )If you configured a near equivalent notebook through HP (i5 540, 4gigs 1066 ram, 500gb 7200 rpm hdd, same everything else) and factor in Bing, you're looking at $1236.75. If you do the really smart thing and go with an i5 430, its $1124. That's a big difference. | ||
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Ursad0n
United States523 Posts
Morale of the story, don't get a Mac | ||
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SkyTheUnknown
Germany2065 Posts
On June 08 2010 04:25 haruharu wrote: I don't think any macbook pro's other than the 13 inch are worth it. The 13 inch provides a great a combination of quality, weight, power, and battery life that other laptops in this category don't have for me. However, the 15 inch and the 17 inch are extremely pricey and there exists many pc alternatives that are more powerful and cheaper Most honst and true advice here. | ||
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