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zOula...
United States898 Posts
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artofmagic
United States1951 Posts
On June 08 2010 00:45 7mk wrote: What makes it so much better than all other laptops? as a mobile computing device, it's superior on build quality and battery life and relatively light. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On June 08 2010 01:00 artofmagic wrote: as a mobile computing device, it's superior on build quality and battery life and relatively light. And I have to completely disagree. I would use my IBM laptop over this stupid MPB i'm forced to use any day of the week. I did decide to try a Mac just to see how i would like it but i can honestly say it hasn't been THAT awesome. Sure the startup is fast and OSX is obviously superior to say Vista...but Windows 7 has closed that gap greatly and for me windows allows me to do the things I want to do on it without jumping through hoops. Also my MPB could probably boil water on it with how freaking hot it gets sometimes. And yes, this is a 2010 MPB, if you do anything more than surf the internet on it you will burn skin on your legs if you aren't paying attention. | ||
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
if you want the same computer for 1/3 the cost, buy PC | ||
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
On June 08 2010 00:56 zOula... wrote: For a laptop, i have to vote for the macbook pro. 7 hour battery life, isnt noisy with fans, doesnt crash from overheating (every PC laptop i've had this issue). I would never get a mac desktop, but if you're not going to be playing games the mac laptop is awesome ive never had problems with overheating laptops with PC (that includes leaving it on in a bag, leaving it on a comforter where all the vents were blocked) macbook pro is over priced for what you get. the battery life is nice, but it doesnt justify its $$$ tag just get an IBM | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
let us know what you end up buying and how it works out for you  | ||
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Ojahh
Ireland728 Posts
On June 07 2010 12:47 KOFgokuon wrote: don't get an HP but def get a PC Second that man, got one 5 month ago, already broken and they say its physical damage which is insane, cause this is the first of my laptops that I only used stationary, so im figthing since 6 weeks for my warranty -------- On Topic: I work for apple, but i still have my PC laptop at home and Iove it, my iMac is good for work and for my mail and pictures and music, but the endless compability in software and Hardware is not to top in a PC laptop, note also, that Apple doesn't do "Laptops" they're "Portables" because they get to fricking hot to have them on your lap. I can heavily recommend TOSHIBA, reasonable price, good parts composition, and Sturdy like hell, I treat my Notebooks well,but also rough, and believe me nothing kills a Toshiba, no Coke and juice in the keyboard, no falling from the bed about 20 times, no rain, no short-circuiting with a wrong polarized travel-adapter. (well the battery was dead but after blowing the fuse and emitting smoke out of every vent, that aint to shaby) If you want to use the PC to primarily take notes and do research in the University, a small netbook would serve that purpose best, get a Desktop for gaming, music and picture/movie storage, that way you got the best equipment for all possibilities and you wont spend more then when you buy one big screen multi functionality Laptop. (plus longterm upgrade options on the desktop) on an end note if you are going for a Mac for heaven-sakes get the AppelCareProtection, not some weird retailer insurance. I don't wanna have have you on the phone one day whining why I wont issue a 1000$ dollar logic board repair for free after 2 years. ---------- Aunty Edit says: there is no doubt that a MacbookPro 15" or 17" is one of the best Computers can buy, but what you get for your money is what decides how good something is, and I myself get a 27% discount on our products, I still went for a PC, cause I provided what i needed for 599 instead of 1350. | ||
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Ghardo
Germany1685 Posts
A: Because everyone is too lazy to learn how to use a program with near-infinite features and instead opt for easier, yet more restricting, OS and programs just so they don't have to "deal with it." In other words, because most people are morons. + Show Spoiler + not by me but sums up my thoughts pretty well. but i guess that's from a more gaming / "use the full spectrum" kind of perspective. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 08 2010 01:22 JeeJee wrote: i just hope the OP isn't blindly weighing all of these posts equally because quite frankly, a lot of them are pretty bad/misinformed (on both sides of the fence) let us know what you end up buying and how it works out for you Yeah, you can tell a lot of people haven't done research on either side of laptops lately. The change in laptop performance has changed so quickly over the past year, you really need to do research NOW to be up to date. Even a year ago and you're completely out of the loop. Apple changed the whole game of power/battery life/form factor/display a couple years ago, and now all the PC makers are catching up. This is really the first generation of laptops when they might be caught up in all of those. | ||
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tYsopz
Norway215 Posts
It's more expensive, but you get what you pay for. | ||
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Slakter
Sweden1947 Posts
For studying or other things - Mac | ||
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AaronEB
United States76 Posts
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eaT_Mi_Lquid
Germany509 Posts
I am a software engineering graduate who works all the day with the computer, therefore I may give you a different view on your problem. Coincidently i recently just bought a new laptop too. I bought the new Dell Vostro 3300 with i3 Core for about 600 € (~ 720 $), it was the first 13 '' laptop with a powerful i3/5 processor available a few weeks ago, therefore I am very happy that I am having it. My main use for it is software development, I'm running several application servers (Java EE servers), multiple programming IDEs and Adobe Photoshop at the same time on it with no problem, due to the i3 Core and the 4 gb RAM. And everything is packed in a small 13'' computer, which is the best size of a laptop imo. 14'', 15'', 17'' laptops are too big and heavy and netbooks are too small and slow to work with properly. In a case where I need a bigger screen for my works, I plug my laptop into my external monitor. As in my case a normal laptop was just perfect, because in comparison to Macs it is - much cheaper - all the necessary software needed are running on Win7 Since I have different requirements than you have I will list the criteria which is important for your decision, sorted by relevance in my opinion: - Software Compatibility this is the most important thing when you compare Macs/Win/Linux OS, since software is that what makes computers useful. I haven't tried Mac OS yet but with Win you can not go wrong, since all the professional software you need will be available to you. Linux Software compatibility is also good for Software Developers, for others such as Artists, CAD designers it may be too limited etc. This point can be circumvented by running Virtualization Software for operating systems but it is not convenient. Honestly, i don't think Mac OSX software is superior to Win software in anyway. As I mentioned all the professional software you cant get are Win software, because Windows is available on most of PCs. - Hardware what Hardware you want to have depends heavily on your use of the computer, like for me i needed a capable computer in order to run multiple applications simultanously etc.. Others need a good graphic card for Games, 3D Modelling, Video processing etc. However keep in mind that you will have a greater variety to choose from when you buy a normal laptop. Hardware modification for normal laptops is also easier to do than with Macs. In general Apple is a very proprietary company, you won't have freedom to modify your laptop as you wish, most of the external devices for Macs are proprietary too. - Size don't buy something which is too small, don't buy something which is too big, you will regret it. I've had a 15'' laptop, nowadays I would never ever go back to any 15'' laptops anymore, because they are too big and heavy. However if you plan to play games or exchange your Desktop PC with an all-in-one laptop a 13'' or 14'' laptop won't bring you the necessary computing power you need. - Design/Quality etc. Apple design and quality is worldclass. You will get that what you've paid for (even when it's always overpriced). For me laptop-case, keyboard, mouse quality is very important. You will notice it in everyday's work. - Battery Life This is the most irrelevant criteria of all for students imo. When you are working on your laptop you will always have a power outlet nearby. Most of the time you are working with your laptop is inside, and therefore will never have power problems. If you are using your laptop as a "laptop" much, you should consider buying a table  or buying a netbook or an iPad WITH Flash .I have never used my laptop outside, people should do other things than computers outside. This is coming from a computer geek.- Price at the end look at the prices and choose what it is the best for you. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have the money and care for looks. Buy a high-class business laptop from Dell, Lenovo, Sony or smth. Looking and qualitiy-wise it should be fine and you will be flexible with Windows. You have many vendors to choose your laptop system from. With Mac you only have Apple. There are only a few modifications of MacBooks you can choose from. If you have the money and care for looks and do not care about computers, buy a Mac. You will have a solid laptop, which is nice looking and is overpriced. | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
Also, my computer battery is now 100% dead on my pc. It is a mobile desktop now. While my wife's macbook (bought at same time) has a great battery running stuill. Its almost as good as it was when we bought it. Also, believe it or not, her macbook does better with games. Both of our laptops lack a dedicated graphics card (she doesn't have a pro, its just a macbook) but WoW runs perfectly on her laptop even without the video card while it will not play on mine. Starcraft 1 of course runs great on both, while SC2 will not play on either. Also, the new macbooks have that amazinng battery life. Its simply amazing. When analyzing laptops, the battery is what MAKES a laptop a laptop. Its importance cannot be overstated and Apple's simply have longer lasting batteries that do not die as fast as PCs. So there it is. Get a macbook. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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alypse
2784 Posts
Answer: Get a Mac Evidence: http://blog.gsmarena.com/how-to-fry-an-egg-buy-an-apple-macbook-pro-with-the-intel-core-i7-inside…/ | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On June 08 2010 01:00 artofmagic wrote: as a mobile computing device, it's superior on build quality and battery life and relatively light. Those are really something I dont care about.. and sure as hell not something I'd be willing to pay 1000€ extra for Plus battery life isn't even necessarily true, like I said there are notebooks with 10h+ battery life I'd really like to hear zatic's take on what he likes so much about it, I'm curious since I've never had a macbook pro | ||
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
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samalie
Canada87 Posts
(Credentials: I'm a PC guy overall, been working as a database developer for 15 years) PC's are cheaper, without a doubt, but in an apples to apples comparison (pun intended) the Macbook Pro line is only about 15% higher priced...not 1/2 or 1/3 the cost. Remeber...just because you can buy a $1000 PC laptop, doesn't mean the components are remotely similar. I've had some issues getting a true comparison with the MBP 2010 line as they are somewhat behind the curve technology-wise...last I ran the numbers a slightly better high-end Dell laptop was only about $200 cheaper than a comparable MBP. THats not much. Plus...whether this applies to you is another story...but people routinely sell Macbooks/MBP's for 1/3 to 1/2 of the original purchase price after 2 years. Try selling a 2 year old PC Notebook (Hint: I've tried, many times, licky to get a hundred or two for one that is 2 years old...most of the time I just give the shit away). Mac's in general are ALWAYS behind the performance point of PC's. Always. THere is a reason though for this...Apple tightly controls both the OS and the hardware used in the Mac lines, and as a result they deliver what is probably the strongest user experience of any computer manufacturer. About the only time a mac will crash is when you run some sort of virtualization, or while you're booted into a Windows partition LOL. They are exceptionally well designed, and because there isn't a huge variety in hardware used the OS is well developed for the specific hardware used. Generally, as said at the start...I'm a PC guy, mostly because of my gaming addiction. But I freaking LOVE OSX...it is absolutely beautiful in its simplicity. For the artsy-fartsy of us, out of the box a Mac has better software than many paid programs for the PC world...iPhoto, Garage Band, etc "just work" and work perfectly together. The default iMail though (I think) is a pile of shit. Mac's are not virus/trojan/keylogger free either...there are just fewer programs out there because of the small userbase (comparatively) to the PC world. When it comes to competitions to compromise machines, Mac's are lately the first to fall (PWN2OWN) but in a realistic real-world environment Macs are significantly less likely to pick up malware. tl:dr: Mac's are more expensive upfront for lesser performance than their Windows counterpart, but tend cheaper in the long term. If you're doing hard gaming (Read: more than WoW/SC/SC2) then Windows PC's are better, period. If gaming isn't your concern, Macs are better quality systems. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2717 Posts
I believe enough people before me have explained why. The ones that suggest getting a mac obviously have no clue or simply put looks before usability. BUT if you don't need a computer for anything but surfing, writing essays and be shiny and if you don't give a fuck about money, then get a mac. It does look better and has a fucking apple on its shell !!! | ||
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