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Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 05:04:46
January 21 2010 05:03 GMT
#41
On January 21 2010 13:57 lazz wrote:
LOL this is just an antispam measure and all you guys are going on about big brother and 1984 lololol


did u read the article?

China Mobile, one of the nation’s largest cellular providers, reported that text messages would automatically be scanned for “key words” provided by the police, according to China Daily, a state-controlled English-language newspaper. Messages will be deemed “unhealthy” if they violate undisclosed criteria established by the central government, the newspaper said.


i'm sure the government and police are doing this to keep spammers under control as if they've got too much free times on their hands, amirite?
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
January 21 2010 05:13 GMT
#42
On January 21 2010 12:49 ilovejonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 12:43 Saturnize wrote:
This has nothing to do with pedophiles

and now it is

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clever :D
theKOT
Profile Joined June 2009
United States167 Posts
January 21 2010 05:16 GMT
#43
Why don't the mobile phone companies work on blocking this themselves? It seems like the customers would appreciate not having thousands of sex spam texts and prefer providers that blocked them.
FBH and Bisu. That's all you need.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
January 21 2010 05:30 GMT
#44
On January 21 2010 14:03 Shizuru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 13:57 lazz wrote:
LOL this is just an antispam measure and all you guys are going on about big brother and 1984 lololol


did u read the article?

Show nested quote +
China Mobile, one of the nation’s largest cellular providers, reported that text messages would automatically be scanned for “key words” provided by the police, according to China Daily, a state-controlled English-language newspaper. Messages will be deemed “unhealthy” if they violate undisclosed criteria established by the central government, the newspaper said.


i'm sure the government and police are doing this to keep spammers under control as if they've got too much free times on their hands, amirite?


Because obviously this one article written form a western perspective is the end all be all on this issue. How could Iazz have been so blind? I guess we all owe you a heartfelt apology in light of the knowledge that reading this short NY Times article has, in fact, made you an expert on this particular subject. Do accept our sincerest apologies.
TranslatorBaa!
VabuDeltaKaiser
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany1107 Posts
January 21 2010 05:33 GMT
#45
On January 21 2010 12:42 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 12:28 Fishball wrote:
On January 21 2010 12:25 Sadist wrote:
On January 21 2010 12:22 Kennigit wrote:
The title of this thread is EXTREMELY misleading....



exactly. What does this have to do with pedos?


A mod changed it


Okay... I want to know which one thought this was a good idea and did it...

just a good method someone thinks he helps tl by increase posts and decrease quality..

i wonder what happens in the rooms of power of this stuff

my smiley drinks green tea. works. just, the commercial investments are lower.
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
January 21 2010 05:33 GMT
#46
On January 21 2010 12:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
This is targeted at mass spam SMSs in China lol, not random censorship. But obviously no Enhlish news source decided to explain that bit since leaving that out helps with their "China evil" message.


As someone with family in China, this is correct to my knowledge.
Of course, my relatives might just be + Show Spoiler +
evil Chinese propaganda spreaders trying to pull the wool over my eyes
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
January 21 2010 06:05 GMT
#47
Hilarious that people actually belive that it's a law to prevent spam. They could have got a legislation similar to those implemented in the US or Europe. If they have to create the law with "undisclosed criteras" it's obvious to me that they got something that they dont want to show.

That people in China say that it's nothing to be worried about doesnt suprise me the least. They are so fed with this bullshit from childhood that they actually belive it, Reminds of when I heard some friends arguing and when I aked them what was going on all the chinese guys pointed at the taiwanese guy and said "He says that Taiwan doesnt belong to China!!". Not that it's any proof of anything I've said previously, but I think it's a nice anecdote.

Also, I belive the article should say "It's a part of their campaign to regulate speech". Now, let the flame war begin.
4649!!
psion0011
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada720 Posts
January 21 2010 06:11 GMT
#48
On January 21 2010 15:05 Robinsa wrote:
Hilarious that people actually belive that it's a law to prevent spam. They could have got a legislation similar to those implemented in the US or Europe. If they have to create the law with "undisclosed criteras" it's obvious to me that they got something that they dont want to show.

That people in China say that it's nothing to be worried about doesnt suprise me the least. They are so fed with this bullshit from childhood that they actually belive it, Reminds of when I heard some friends arguing and when I aked them what was going on all the chinese guys pointed at the taiwanese guy and said "He says that Taiwan doesnt belong to China!!". Not that it's any proof of anything I've said previously, but I think it's a nice anecdote.

Also, I belive the article should say "It's a part of their campaign to regulate speech". Now, let the flame war begin.

You don't even know how to spell "believe" or "ask". You pretty much gave yourself away as an idiot before anybody had to reply!
lOvOlUNiMEDiA
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States643 Posts
January 21 2010 06:16 GMT
#49
On January 21 2010 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 14:03 Shizuru~ wrote:
On January 21 2010 13:57 lazz wrote:
LOL this is just an antispam measure and all you guys are going on about big brother and 1984 lololol


did u read the article?

China Mobile, one of the nation’s largest cellular providers, reported that text messages would automatically be scanned for “key words” provided by the police, according to China Daily, a state-controlled English-language newspaper. Messages will be deemed “unhealthy” if they violate undisclosed criteria established by the central government, the newspaper said.


i'm sure the government and police are doing this to keep spammers under control as if they've got too much free times on their hands, amirite?


Because obviously this one article written form a western perspective is the end all be all on this issue. How could Iazz have been so blind? I guess we all owe you a heartfelt apology in light of the knowledge that reading this short NY Times article has, in fact, made you an expert on this particular subject. Do accept our sincerest apologies.


You could be right. But doesn't the following passage from the OP link bother you ?:

Although China has quietly monitored cellphone text messages for some time, Kan Kaili, a professor of telecommunications at Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunication, said the new measures appeared broader and more intrusive and punitive.

“They are doing wide-ranging checks, checking anything and everything, even if it is between a husband and wife,” he said. “I don’t think people will be very happy about this.”

He said the government had established no clear legal definition of unhealthy content. He also said commercial authorities like phone companies, even though government-owned, should not be involved in checking the contents of private messages. “This is totally wrong,” he said. “This violates citizens’ basic rights.”"


This is from a Chinese professor at a Chinese University. He, not the NYT, is stating the the Chinese government has not provided a legal definition for "unhealthy content". Now, it could be that a definition is in the works and will be forthcoming soon. It could also be that Chinese government officials are angelic enough that they don't need to operate underneath an objective set of laws. Whatever the case, in the west the general opinion is that politicians should be bound by a code of laws that is as precise as reasonably possible.
To say that I'm missing the point, you would first have to show that such work can have a point.
Army of BadAsh82
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada12 Posts
January 21 2010 06:20 GMT
#50
On January 21 2010 15:16 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 21 2010 14:03 Shizuru~ wrote:
On January 21 2010 13:57 lazz wrote:
LOL this is just an antispam measure and all you guys are going on about big brother and 1984 lololol


did u read the article?

China Mobile, one of the nation’s largest cellular providers, reported that text messages would automatically be scanned for “key words” provided by the police, according to China Daily, a state-controlled English-language newspaper. Messages will be deemed “unhealthy” if they violate undisclosed criteria established by the central government, the newspaper said.


i'm sure the government and police are doing this to keep spammers under control as if they've got too much free times on their hands, amirite?


Because obviously this one article written form a western perspective is the end all be all on this issue. How could Iazz have been so blind? I guess we all owe you a heartfelt apology in light of the knowledge that reading this short NY Times article has, in fact, made you an expert on this particular subject. Do accept our sincerest apologies.


You could be right. But doesn't the following passage from the OP link bother you ?:

Although China has quietly monitored cellphone text messages for some time, Kan Kaili, a professor of telecommunications at Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunication, said the new measures appeared broader and more intrusive and punitive.

“They are doing wide-ranging checks, checking anything and everything, even if it is between a husband and wife,” he said. “I don’t think people will be very happy about this.”

He said the government had established no clear legal definition of unhealthy content. He also said commercial authorities like phone companies, even though government-owned, should not be involved in checking the contents of private messages. “This is totally wrong,” he said. “This violates citizens’ basic rights.”"


This is from a Chinese professor at a Chinese University. He, not the NYT, is stating the the Chinese government has not provided a legal definition for "unhealthy content". Now, it could be that a definition is in the works and will be forthcoming soon. It could also be that Chinese government officials are angelic enough that they don't need to operate underneath an objective set of laws. Whatever the case, in the west the general opinion is that politicians should be bound by a code of laws that is as precise as reasonably possible.


basically sums everything up. topic shud end here.
Good, Bad, Im the Guy with the Gun.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 21 2010 06:22 GMT
#51
On January 21 2010 15:16 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 21 2010 14:03 Shizuru~ wrote:
On January 21 2010 13:57 lazz wrote:
LOL this is just an antispam measure and all you guys are going on about big brother and 1984 lololol


did u read the article?

China Mobile, one of the nation’s largest cellular providers, reported that text messages would automatically be scanned for “key words” provided by the police, according to China Daily, a state-controlled English-language newspaper. Messages will be deemed “unhealthy” if they violate undisclosed criteria established by the central government, the newspaper said.


i'm sure the government and police are doing this to keep spammers under control as if they've got too much free times on their hands, amirite?


Because obviously this one article written form a western perspective is the end all be all on this issue. How could Iazz have been so blind? I guess we all owe you a heartfelt apology in light of the knowledge that reading this short NY Times article has, in fact, made you an expert on this particular subject. Do accept our sincerest apologies.


You could be right. But doesn't the following passage from the OP link bother you ?:

Although China has quietly monitored cellphone text messages for some time, Kan Kaili, a professor of telecommunications at Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunication, said the new measures appeared broader and more intrusive and punitive.

“They are doing wide-ranging checks, checking anything and everything, even if it is between a husband and wife,” he said. “I don’t think people will be very happy about this.”

He said the government had established no clear legal definition of unhealthy content. He also said commercial authorities like phone companies, even though government-owned, should not be involved in checking the contents of private messages. “This is totally wrong,” he said. “This violates citizens’ basic rights.”"


This is from a Chinese professor at a Chinese University. He, not the NYT, is stating the the Chinese government has not provided a legal definition for "unhealthy content". Now, it could be that a definition is in the works and will be forthcoming soon. It could also be that Chinese government officials are angelic enough that they don't need to operate underneath an objective set of laws. Whatever the case, in the west the general opinion is that politicians should be bound by a code of laws that is as precise as reasonably possible.

LOL you realise that ALL text messages sent from phones are able to be intercepted? any joe with a few pieces of hardware and the know-how can intercept text messages!

but no, no, no, china = evil!
lOvOlUNiMEDiA
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States643 Posts
January 21 2010 06:25 GMT
#52
On January 21 2010 15:22 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 15:16 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
On January 21 2010 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 21 2010 14:03 Shizuru~ wrote:
On January 21 2010 13:57 lazz wrote:
LOL this is just an antispam measure and all you guys are going on about big brother and 1984 lololol


did u read the article?

China Mobile, one of the nation’s largest cellular providers, reported that text messages would automatically be scanned for “key words” provided by the police, according to China Daily, a state-controlled English-language newspaper. Messages will be deemed “unhealthy” if they violate undisclosed criteria established by the central government, the newspaper said.


i'm sure the government and police are doing this to keep spammers under control as if they've got too much free times on their hands, amirite?


Because obviously this one article written form a western perspective is the end all be all on this issue. How could Iazz have been so blind? I guess we all owe you a heartfelt apology in light of the knowledge that reading this short NY Times article has, in fact, made you an expert on this particular subject. Do accept our sincerest apologies.


You could be right. But doesn't the following passage from the OP link bother you ?:

Although China has quietly monitored cellphone text messages for some time, Kan Kaili, a professor of telecommunications at Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunication, said the new measures appeared broader and more intrusive and punitive.

“They are doing wide-ranging checks, checking anything and everything, even if it is between a husband and wife,” he said. “I don’t think people will be very happy about this.”

He said the government had established no clear legal definition of unhealthy content. He also said commercial authorities like phone companies, even though government-owned, should not be involved in checking the contents of private messages. “This is totally wrong,” he said. “This violates citizens’ basic rights.”"


This is from a Chinese professor at a Chinese University. He, not the NYT, is stating the the Chinese government has not provided a legal definition for "unhealthy content". Now, it could be that a definition is in the works and will be forthcoming soon. It could also be that Chinese government officials are angelic enough that they don't need to operate underneath an objective set of laws. Whatever the case, in the west the general opinion is that politicians should be bound by a code of laws that is as precise as reasonably possible.

LOL you realise that ALL text messages sent from phones are able to be intercepted? any joe with a few pieces of hardware and the know-how can intercept text messages!

but no, no, no, china = evil!


I don't understand the point of your post.
To say that I'm missing the point, you would first have to show that such work can have a point.
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
January 21 2010 06:26 GMT
#53
On January 21 2010 15:11 psion0011 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 15:05 Robinsa wrote:
Hilarious that people actually belive that it's a law to prevent spam. They could have got a legislation similar to those implemented in the US or Europe. If they have to create the law with "undisclosed criteras" it's obvious to me that they got something that they dont want to show.

That people in China say that it's nothing to be worried about doesnt suprise me the least. They are so fed with this bullshit from childhood that they actually belive it, Reminds of when I heard some friends arguing and when I aked them what was going on all the chinese guys pointed at the taiwanese guy and said "He says that Taiwan doesnt belong to China!!". Not that it's any proof of anything I've said previously, but I think it's a nice anecdote.

Also, I belive the article should say "It's a part of their campaign to regulate speech". Now, let the flame war begin.

You don't even know how to spell "believe" or "ask". You pretty much gave yourself away as an idiot before anybody had to reply!

Youre right. Your arguments are too strong for me to respond to. I dare not have a discussion against a fierce opponent like you.

As a side note I'm not a native speaker of english and I'm a dyslectic.
4649!!
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
January 21 2010 06:35 GMT
#54
On January 21 2010 15:22 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 15:16 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
On January 21 2010 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 21 2010 14:03 Shizuru~ wrote:
On January 21 2010 13:57 lazz wrote:
LOL this is just an antispam measure and all you guys are going on about big brother and 1984 lololol


did u read the article?

China Mobile, one of the nation’s largest cellular providers, reported that text messages would automatically be scanned for “key words” provided by the police, according to China Daily, a state-controlled English-language newspaper. Messages will be deemed “unhealthy” if they violate undisclosed criteria established by the central government, the newspaper said.


i'm sure the government and police are doing this to keep spammers under control as if they've got too much free times on their hands, amirite?


Because obviously this one article written form a western perspective is the end all be all on this issue. How could Iazz have been so blind? I guess we all owe you a heartfelt apology in light of the knowledge that reading this short NY Times article has, in fact, made you an expert on this particular subject. Do accept our sincerest apologies.


You could be right. But doesn't the following passage from the OP link bother you ?:

Although China has quietly monitored cellphone text messages for some time, Kan Kaili, a professor of telecommunications at Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunication, said the new measures appeared broader and more intrusive and punitive.

“They are doing wide-ranging checks, checking anything and everything, even if it is between a husband and wife,” he said. “I don’t think people will be very happy about this.”

He said the government had established no clear legal definition of unhealthy content. He also said commercial authorities like phone companies, even though government-owned, should not be involved in checking the contents of private messages. “This is totally wrong,” he said. “This violates citizens’ basic rights.”"


This is from a Chinese professor at a Chinese University. He, not the NYT, is stating the the Chinese government has not provided a legal definition for "unhealthy content". Now, it could be that a definition is in the works and will be forthcoming soon. It could also be that Chinese government officials are angelic enough that they don't need to operate underneath an objective set of laws. Whatever the case, in the west the general opinion is that politicians should be bound by a code of laws that is as precise as reasonably possible.

LOL you realise that ALL text messages sent from phones are able to be intercepted? any joe with a few pieces of hardware and the know-how can intercept text messages!

but no, no, no, china = evil!


you realise that ALL people are able to be killed? anyone with a weapon or, hell, any functioning limbs could kill someone

but no, no, no, Jeffrey Dahmer = bad person!

am i doin it rite?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 21 2010 06:36 GMT
#55
On January 21 2010 15:25 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 15:22 lazz wrote:
On January 21 2010 15:16 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
On January 21 2010 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 21 2010 14:03 Shizuru~ wrote:
On January 21 2010 13:57 lazz wrote:
LOL this is just an antispam measure and all you guys are going on about big brother and 1984 lololol


did u read the article?

China Mobile, one of the nation’s largest cellular providers, reported that text messages would automatically be scanned for “key words” provided by the police, according to China Daily, a state-controlled English-language newspaper. Messages will be deemed “unhealthy” if they violate undisclosed criteria established by the central government, the newspaper said.


i'm sure the government and police are doing this to keep spammers under control as if they've got too much free times on their hands, amirite?


Because obviously this one article written form a western perspective is the end all be all on this issue. How could Iazz have been so blind? I guess we all owe you a heartfelt apology in light of the knowledge that reading this short NY Times article has, in fact, made you an expert on this particular subject. Do accept our sincerest apologies.


You could be right. But doesn't the following passage from the OP link bother you ?:

Although China has quietly monitored cellphone text messages for some time, Kan Kaili, a professor of telecommunications at Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunication, said the new measures appeared broader and more intrusive and punitive.

“They are doing wide-ranging checks, checking anything and everything, even if it is between a husband and wife,” he said. “I don’t think people will be very happy about this.”

He said the government had established no clear legal definition of unhealthy content. He also said commercial authorities like phone companies, even though government-owned, should not be involved in checking the contents of private messages. “This is totally wrong,” he said. “This violates citizens’ basic rights.”"


This is from a Chinese professor at a Chinese University. He, not the NYT, is stating the the Chinese government has not provided a legal definition for "unhealthy content". Now, it could be that a definition is in the works and will be forthcoming soon. It could also be that Chinese government officials are angelic enough that they don't need to operate underneath an objective set of laws. Whatever the case, in the west the general opinion is that politicians should be bound by a code of laws that is as precise as reasonably possible.

LOL you realise that ALL text messages sent from phones are able to be intercepted? any joe with a few pieces of hardware and the know-how can intercept text messages!

but no, no, no, china = evil!


I don't understand the point of your post.


text messaging is not private. it has NEVER been a private or secure method of communication. why you guys are then getting all up-in-arms about the chinese govt intercepting text messages seems completely out of proportion. text messaging is not, and has never been a private method of communication. nevermind the fact that according to all anecdotal evidence from people who ACTUALLY LIVE IN CHINA this is to stop a really fucking annoying SMS spamming problem!
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 06:38:05
January 21 2010 06:37 GMT
#56
On January 21 2010 15:35 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 15:22 lazz wrote:
On January 21 2010 15:16 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
On January 21 2010 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 21 2010 14:03 Shizuru~ wrote:
On January 21 2010 13:57 lazz wrote:
LOL this is just an antispam measure and all you guys are going on about big brother and 1984 lololol


did u read the article?

China Mobile, one of the nation’s largest cellular providers, reported that text messages would automatically be scanned for “key words” provided by the police, according to China Daily, a state-controlled English-language newspaper. Messages will be deemed “unhealthy” if they violate undisclosed criteria established by the central government, the newspaper said.


i'm sure the government and police are doing this to keep spammers under control as if they've got too much free times on their hands, amirite?


Because obviously this one article written form a western perspective is the end all be all on this issue. How could Iazz have been so blind? I guess we all owe you a heartfelt apology in light of the knowledge that reading this short NY Times article has, in fact, made you an expert on this particular subject. Do accept our sincerest apologies.


You could be right. But doesn't the following passage from the OP link bother you ?:

Although China has quietly monitored cellphone text messages for some time, Kan Kaili, a professor of telecommunications at Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunication, said the new measures appeared broader and more intrusive and punitive.

“They are doing wide-ranging checks, checking anything and everything, even if it is between a husband and wife,” he said. “I don’t think people will be very happy about this.”

He said the government had established no clear legal definition of unhealthy content. He also said commercial authorities like phone companies, even though government-owned, should not be involved in checking the contents of private messages. “This is totally wrong,” he said. “This violates citizens’ basic rights.”"


This is from a Chinese professor at a Chinese University. He, not the NYT, is stating the the Chinese government has not provided a legal definition for "unhealthy content". Now, it could be that a definition is in the works and will be forthcoming soon. It could also be that Chinese government officials are angelic enough that they don't need to operate underneath an objective set of laws. Whatever the case, in the west the general opinion is that politicians should be bound by a code of laws that is as precise as reasonably possible.

LOL you realise that ALL text messages sent from phones are able to be intercepted? any joe with a few pieces of hardware and the know-how can intercept text messages!

but no, no, no, china = evil!


you realise that ALL people are able to be killed? anyone with a weapon or, hell, any functioning limbs could kill someone

but no, no, no, Jeffrey Dahmer = bad person!

am i doin it rite?

lol
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 21 2010 06:37 GMT
#57
here we go with the china defense rofl

NOTHING BAD HAPPENS HERE GUYS

lOvOlUNiMEDiA
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States643 Posts
January 21 2010 06:52 GMT
#58
On January 21 2010 15:35 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 15:22 lazz wrote:
On January 21 2010 15:16 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
On January 21 2010 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 21 2010 14:03 Shizuru~ wrote:
On January 21 2010 13:57 lazz wrote:
LOL this is just an antispam measure and all you guys are going on about big brother and 1984 lololol


did u read the article?

China Mobile, one of the nation’s largest cellular providers, reported that text messages would automatically be scanned for “key words” provided by the police, according to China Daily, a state-controlled English-language newspaper. Messages will be deemed “unhealthy” if they violate undisclosed criteria established by the central government, the newspaper said.


i'm sure the government and police are doing this to keep spammers under control as if they've got too much free times on their hands, amirite?


Because obviously this one article written form a western perspective is the end all be all on this issue. How could Iazz have been so blind? I guess we all owe you a heartfelt apology in light of the knowledge that reading this short NY Times article has, in fact, made you an expert on this particular subject. Do accept our sincerest apologies.


You could be right. But doesn't the following passage from the OP link bother you ?:

Although China has quietly monitored cellphone text messages for some time, Kan Kaili, a professor of telecommunications at Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunication, said the new measures appeared broader and more intrusive and punitive.

“They are doing wide-ranging checks, checking anything and everything, even if it is between a husband and wife,” he said. “I don’t think people will be very happy about this.”

He said the government had established no clear legal definition of unhealthy content. He also said commercial authorities like phone companies, even though government-owned, should not be involved in checking the contents of private messages. “This is totally wrong,” he said. “This violates citizens’ basic rights.”"


This is from a Chinese professor at a Chinese University. He, not the NYT, is stating the the Chinese government has not provided a legal definition for "unhealthy content". Now, it could be that a definition is in the works and will be forthcoming soon. It could also be that Chinese government officials are angelic enough that they don't need to operate underneath an objective set of laws. Whatever the case, in the west the general opinion is that politicians should be bound by a code of laws that is as precise as reasonably possible.

LOL you realise that ALL text messages sent from phones are able to be intercepted? any joe with a few pieces of hardware and the know-how can intercept text messages!

but no, no, no, china = evil!


you realise that ALL people are able to be killed? anyone with a weapon or, hell, any functioning limbs could kill someone

but no, no, no, Jeffrey Dahmer = bad person!

am i doin it rite?


Precisely my thoughts.
To say that I'm missing the point, you would first have to show that such work can have a point.
edahl
Profile Joined February 2008
Norway483 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 07:09:24
January 21 2010 06:57 GMT
#59
On January 21 2010 12:22 Kennigit wrote:
The title of this thread is EXTREMELY misleading....

It is indeed flat out wrong when it comes to the picture the news actually presents. Someone should edit it.

On January 21 2010 15:36 lazz wrote:
text messaging is not private. it has NEVER been a private or secure method of communication. why you guys are then getting all up-in-arms about the chinese govt intercepting text messages seems completely out of proportion. text messaging is not, and has never been a private method of communication. nevermind the fact that according to all anecdotal evidence from people who ACTUALLY LIVE IN CHINA this is to stop a really fucking annoying SMS spamming problem!

It is a private method of communication. Not the most secure, but nonetheless private and you have to really overstep some boundaries to get to read them. Anything labelled "from: to: " falls under that category. You don't intercept text messages for the same reason you don't intercept mail, unless of course you're China. A country it seems in so much denial they wouldn't sense my cock down their throat if they thought it was to save the bees. You don't make an anti-spam law that accidentally covers a great deal of peoples privacy to stop something like this. If they really want to stop spam, then stop spam. This is ridiculous.
Krikkitone
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1451 Posts
January 21 2010 07:01 GMT
#60
On January 21 2010 15:36 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 15:25 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
On January 21 2010 15:22 lazz wrote:
On January 21 2010 15:16 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
On January 21 2010 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 21 2010 14:03 Shizuru~ wrote:
On January 21 2010 13:57 lazz wrote:
LOL this is just an antispam measure and all you guys are going on about big brother and 1984 lololol


did u read the article?

China Mobile, one of the nation’s largest cellular providers, reported that text messages would automatically be scanned for “key words” provided by the police, according to China Daily, a state-controlled English-language newspaper. Messages will be deemed “unhealthy” if they violate undisclosed criteria established by the central government, the newspaper said.


i'm sure the government and police are doing this to keep spammers under control as if they've got too much free times on their hands, amirite?


Because obviously this one article written form a western perspective is the end all be all on this issue. How could Iazz have been so blind? I guess we all owe you a heartfelt apology in light of the knowledge that reading this short NY Times article has, in fact, made you an expert on this particular subject. Do accept our sincerest apologies.


You could be right. But doesn't the following passage from the OP link bother you ?:

Although China has quietly monitored cellphone text messages for some time, Kan Kaili, a professor of telecommunications at Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunication, said the new measures appeared broader and more intrusive and punitive.

“They are doing wide-ranging checks, checking anything and everything, even if it is between a husband and wife,” he said. “I don’t think people will be very happy about this.”

He said the government had established no clear legal definition of unhealthy content. He also said commercial authorities like phone companies, even though government-owned, should not be involved in checking the contents of private messages. “This is totally wrong,” he said. “This violates citizens’ basic rights.”"


This is from a Chinese professor at a Chinese University. He, not the NYT, is stating the the Chinese government has not provided a legal definition for "unhealthy content". Now, it could be that a definition is in the works and will be forthcoming soon. It could also be that Chinese government officials are angelic enough that they don't need to operate underneath an objective set of laws. Whatever the case, in the west the general opinion is that politicians should be bound by a code of laws that is as precise as reasonably possible.

LOL you realise that ALL text messages sent from phones are able to be intercepted? any joe with a few pieces of hardware and the know-how can intercept text messages!

but no, no, no, china = evil!


I don't understand the point of your post.


text messaging is not private. it has NEVER been a private or secure method of communication. why you guys are then getting all up-in-arms about the chinese govt intercepting text messages seems completely out of proportion. text messaging is not, and has never been a private method of communication. nevermind the fact that according to all anecdotal evidence from people who ACTUALLY LIVE IN CHINA this is to stop a really fucking annoying SMS spamming problem!


No method of communication has ever been "private". Some third party is always able to listen in, if they are in the right place/have the right equipment.

Few methods of communication are "secure" in the sense that they can successfully get to their target (direct verbal communication being one that can't be stopped once it has been uttered).

The fact that individuals in the Chinese government are Able to do these things is ho hum. The problem is what they are using it for. 99% of the messages they stop will probably be spam, unwanted by the receiver, (good for them) the other 1% will be things containing key words like 'Free Tibet'.

The problem is because the individuals in chinese government are not kept accountable to the populace or their laws.
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