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Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
January 29 2010 19:31 GMT
#161
If you told me that you were judging me by my governments actions during the last eight years I would have told you to go F yourself...
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 19:36:27
January 29 2010 19:35 GMT
#162
lol..this is pretty insane

they are just asking for it more and more every day

and by it I mean a + Show Spoiler +
revolution
vitalek
Profile Joined January 2010
Latvia3 Posts
January 29 2010 19:40 GMT
#163
On January 21 2010 12:03 Navi wrote:
even if a man doesn't have his mags, he can still use his IMAGINATION

Chiina is fighting a losing war.


I have heard that using imagination is the healthiest thing and pretty much THAT is their target. That is unless ure some kind of maniac... Then pics with real chix are hleathier...must BE!
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
January 29 2010 20:05 GMT
#164
On January 30 2010 03:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Justified wasthe wrong word, understandable is probably closer to what I meant to say - there's an easy to see reason underlying the hate is what I'm getting at.

And it's not hate persay, more of a general/strong discontentment at the way things are. If modern day Germany refuses to acknowledge the Holocaust like Japan is doing with its atrocities, I'm sure it would cause just as much, if not more of an uproar. The double standards/general ignorance here is kind of annoying - anyone even hints at the possibility of denying the Holocaust immediately gets jumped on, whereas the Japanese government and educational institutions systemically attempt to suppress knowledge of their WWII atrocities in China/Korea/Southeast Asia/the Pacific.


I think we should stop this discussion instead of letting it take over the thread (as has been the case many times before this topic is brought up).

The only reason I brought up anti-japanese sentiment was because his response was so irrelvant to what he quoted.

On a final note, it's not fair to say they're wholly denying the atrocities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan this list demonstrates this.
Hello=)
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
January 30 2010 00:08 GMT
#165
On January 30 2010 01:46 zobz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2010 16:53 haduken wrote:
^ and again, who really gave a toss?

Hence my point, he and his course is noble but are by no mean a representation of the society as a whole.

For something like this to succeed, you will need at least some group of powers to back it.

Communist party is huge. I think you grossly misunderstand the political dynamics.

Academics have served the communist party as much as anyone else. They are so very much separated from the majority.

So 8000 people have signed of it? Seriously, even crappy emo sites like mop.com get that many sign-age on their polls.
It seems to me that he was never trying to make a case that there is a problem in china On the basis of the fact that people are trying to do something to stop it. Rather he was saying that there's a problem, and that people who are trying to stop it are often misunderstood as to what they "want".

He's saying that obviously censorship and propoganda in china has been successful to quite some degree. That people think there is no problem, who get most of their information from chinese media, does not at all signify that there is no problem. Why don't you try and tell me that blatant internet censorship, actually trying to prevent the people from having discussions and doing research on the actions of their own government, is not seriously fucked up?


? I think you misunderstood me. I obviously think that it's fucked. But I've being arguing that it's not just the government being evil but rather the society and it's will to accept a government that impose such things on them. Having random 'democratic' advocates popping up left and right don't disapprove this point when you view in context that majority do not share their view even being told about it.

the reason for that is the existing insecurity and benefits that CCP bought to many people. The people don't give a toss but Liu because the situation is really not that bad. You will have to make China some thing like the haiti and ghetto it up 100x to make people revolt.
Rillanon.au
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
January 30 2010 08:14 GMT
#166
On January 30 2010 04:35 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
lol..this is pretty insane

they are just asking for it more and more every day

and by it I mean a + Show Spoiler +
revolution


Gotta think that this move is a move to prevent stuff like exactly that. Controlling the flow of information is step number 1 for stopping any sort of movement. I doubt the government really cares one bit about pornography, this is about control. If you can filter and go through every text message sent, it becomes that much easier to find those with revolutionary sentiments and put them in prison for a long time with a farce of trial. It makes it harder for those people to meet and pass along vital information in a giant country with tons of people. This pornography campaign makes the decisions more palatable both to the citizens and those abroad, but lets call it what it is: control.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
January 30 2010 17:16 GMT
#167
On January 30 2010 04:35 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
lol..this is pretty insane

they are just asking for it more and more every day

and by it I mean a + Show Spoiler +
revolution


You know, I'm envious that you could even think of the "R" word in connection with government cracking down on cellphone porn spam. It really does show that you live a happy life with only trivial worries.
Meh
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
January 31 2010 18:27 GMT
#168
On January 31 2010 02:16 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2010 04:35 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
lol..this is pretty insane

they are just asking for it more and more every day

and by it I mean a + Show Spoiler +
revolution


You know, I'm envious that you could even think of the "R" word in connection with government cracking down on cellphone porn spam. It really does show that you live a happy life with only trivial worries.
There are many serious political problems in the U.S. The problem is that many of its people are distracted by pety problems of consumerism to the point where they fail to even recognize there are more serious problems, much less want to organize a revolt.

And you're now demonstrating that the same is true in china. Yes your government needs to step in and take partial control of your cell phone industry and directly regulate messages citizens send to each other, and it's just to stop the spam. Spam sucks. All the power to them.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
mangomango
Profile Joined September 2009
United States265 Posts
January 31 2010 18:50 GMT
#169
First they came for the porn, and I did not speak out—because real men don't use porn;
Then they came for the pornographers, and I did not speak out—because I was not a pornographer;
Then they came for the sexters, and I did not speak out—because I was not a sexter;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out.
Husky: Every drone you lose is like a needle in the eye. Nony: probes win $10k (Earn it! Idra Fighting) :P
rererebanned
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
67 Posts
January 31 2010 19:08 GMT
#170
This thread makes me so sad.
Basically only few posters even notice that "fighting pornography" is just used as a method of propaganda to justify introduction of strict censorship. This means absolute control over everyone; I assume that ALL the text messages will be stored for years too, or even indefinitely. It's not only a Chinese thing, it also happens in many other countries. And people agree for it; because they seem to buy the garbage that they are fed.
As if governments cared about people. They only care for themselves. And always did.
Why is this so hard to understand?

On January 21 2010 17:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:

Again, if the Chinese government were displeased and angered enough, the CCP would not be in power right now. The fact that they're in power and have people defending their actions is proof that what they're doing is beneficial to the majority of the people. Dynastic changes in Chinese history were always, without fail, brought on by tyrannical rule that angered the people. Droughts and famines played a part, but if it was a wise and just, or even average, ruler, without a reputation of failures (warranted or unwarranted), there would not be enough cause for a revolution. It matters little what the government says, all that matters is the effects of the actions.


Generaly people who rule a country, usually have some supporters, or, create a special caste of them. I'm not saying that chinese government = ultimate evil, but I would only like to point out, that your logic is completely flawed.
In Russia, Poland and other satelite states, members of the communist party; or supporters would receive benefits. Military, police and parts of some strategic utilities would even have their own shops - some people would struggle to buy basic goods (like bread), while others could buy them easily. Students would be forced to participate in events to show their 'love' for communism; those who did it from their own will, usually would benefit from it.
Not that I say that this is what exactly happens in China, but it's common sense that the government cares of its supporters and fights the opposition in some way or another.

In fact, I would even say that people in general you will find peole that support even the dumbest theory; like a guy in this thread just wrote that SMS messaging is not a private method of communication. Yes, it is private; it should be kept private. In democratic countries the government should not read it; and other parties should be convicted for trying to do so. If we say that storing all text messages is wrong, then why not follow the old Stasi methods? They could read all the mail in the 1980s, we could easily reintroduce that. Or maybe everyone should get a chip implanted that would record all our actions? After all it would benefit us; because this would certainly prevent some criminal acts.

Some Chinese person in some other thread wrote that such ways need to be introduced in China, because "all people are greedy" and otherwise it would end with a war. I wonder why cant China become democratic in some form of a process - of education perhaps? The answer is simple, the government would lose their power. The guy below seems to be pretty brainwashed:

On January 29 2010 02:40 TwoSugarsAndACream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 16:18 Robinsa wrote:
Thats exactly the problem. Even if they are discontent with the government they wont even be able to text it without facing the risk of going to jail. I dont know what the chinese people want, but I agree with you; It would indeed be best if they could express themselves instead of someone else talkinig for them. Last time I checked people that actually spoke their mind in china ended up in jail, or worse.


You know, I think if the Japanese won the war Chinese people would be all fine and dandy right? WRONG robinsa, you are criticizing a government that protected us from your country who raped and destroyed us. So before you say anything about china or comment on the cruelty of the chinese government, think about what your nation did to us first. And by the way, what do you have to say about the japanese refusing to teach kids about the rape of nanking and the negative things they did to China?


Again, this logic seems so flawed.
Basically you wrote that "everyone who isnt with us, is against us, because you support >the japanese, our enemies from 50 years ago<". You also seem to claim that any other government, would not fight japanese.
The US government, in fact is "democratic" (if you can call a 2 party "winner-takes-all" sysem democratic) and somehow fought the Japs. Ok, if you know about pearl harbour, you can see that the democratic government didnt really care about its own people too, but in general they fought the japs and did not have to keep strict control of the whole country for the next 50 years while introducing strict censorship + brainwashing methods.
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