2009-2010 football (soccer) thread - Page 136

On April 13 2010 04:48 Holgerius wrote:
I can't recall having ever seen Le Tissier play.

Splendiferous is indeed the best word in the english language. ^_^

Totti is a Xavi that scores goals.

On April 13 2010 06:51 MaGic~PhiL wrote:


lol your view of totti is totally delusional its just crazy

1) Imho the way Zidane played the game was actually THAT unique that I wouldnt even want to compare him with Pele, Maradonna or the likes. It was just somethint DIFFERENT

So u coming up with Totti being almost the same as Zidane except for his wc titles and champiosnleague title ( aka success ) is pretty stupid imo T_T

2) Even though the comparison between Totti and Xavi is more valid than between zidane and totti it still makes little sense to call totti better than Xavi who is for 3-5 years but especially the last 2-3 years an amazing force both for barca and for spain. He is just perfect at his position and his stamina, work rate, rate of successful passes , the way he posseses the ball and everything. Unmatched these days. But u think totti is even better. I know your smilie gives us a hint u actually know u are once again talking crap but whatever..

And now that Im not just totally unfair I will actually watch a few recent totti games and watch a few totti highlights on youtube + look at some numbers

I doubt he will impress me as much as Zidane, though



I feel your love vor totti, cause Im loving a player who in my opinion was also kinda underrated for a while. To be honest, though he is simply on the decline now and I guess his time is basicaly over. But when he was active and at his top game I think he was the best offensive player around. Im not sure where people rate him and if the see him as a All time Great but in my heart I will keep him as one of the most amazing and most special players of all time but that does not mean i will defend him and deny the obvious. Henry is the player Im talking about and I accept and also see the reasons why he will never be in the same league as Zidane,Pele,Maradonna, ect..

Maybe u can try this with totti ? <3

On April 14 2010 01:27 Holgerius wrote:
@ bObaZ Man, Rui Costa was fucking sexy as hell. However, as you say, he wasn't the greatest goal scorer in the world. Totti combines the attributes in such a remarkable way.

I would actually say that thinking and acting fast was Totti's main assett when he played as a trequartista. He would pass the ball on one touch seemingly blindly, yet almost always find someone.

@ MaGic~PhiL You're just being a derogatory asshole now. Listen, the way you (and others on this forum) undervalue Serie A is just disgusting; 2002-2003 Italy had the league with 3 teams in the semi-finals of CL. Lets just ignore that, eh? That very season, when Italy had no doubt the strongest league in the world, Totti won the award for best player in the entire Serie A. He was fucking magical in his unique playmaking role at that time, but since Roma didn't play in CL that season (and wouldn't have won it even if they had) and there were no national tournaments to participate in, he will never get the recognition he deserves for that. And he has consistently put up dominating performances vs Milan, Inter, Juve, and whether you like it or not those have been great teams (Milan 3 times CL finalist last decade) and those are big fucking games.

Goals vs Inter and Milan.
(Watch the goal around 3:50, it's a real classic ^__^)
And the goals aren't even, as I have mentioned many times before, what's most impressive about his play. Fantastic playmaking doesn't show up in stats unfortunately. =/

Totti in Gli Azzurri is underrated. He has done plenty of amazing stuff and been a protagonist in 2 succesfull tournaments. In the final of Euro 2000 Totti did outshine Zidane, he played great and created the situation for Italy's 1-0 with a nice backheel. Concerning CL; in a cup format you don't get much chance to shine if your team is not up to par, especially when it's a cup that your team won't even get to play in if they fail in their league. When Messi got shut down by Chelsea last season in CL it didn't matter, there were other world class players there to save his ass and get him to the final where he got another opportunity to show off. And now he's the guy who scored in, and won, the CL final, not the forgotten loser who failed in the semis. In a one-man team such as Roma has generally been that doesn't happen; if you manage to shut down Totti, they're out. Totti has been good in European competitions (sits on a decent 0.45 goal per game average), but his team has been too weak to compete. It didn't matter that Totti played great and got assists when they knocked Real Madrid out, no one is gonna remember that since Roma couldn't make it all the way. And it is infinitely much easier to erase one player from a game, like United managed to do (except for Roma's 2-1 victory in Rome), when he is the only real threat. In the humiliating 7-1 defeat Totti himself didn't even play bad, he even got an assist, but that collective collapse simply puts the shadow of defeat upon him. But ya, Totti is indeed inferior to Zidane in delivering at 100% when it matters the most, which is a hallmark of the GOAT's (and therefore one of the two reasons Totti won't be a GOAT). There are a few examples where Totti should've done better, but to say that he always fails is just pure BS. And seriously, you think it's less pressuring being the lone super star in a team, expected to carry said team on your shoulders all the time, than running around with 10 other stars? The burden that Totti has put upon himself by staying loyal to his club is massive. He would've had a much better chance of reaching a higher status, the status that his talent deserves, if he had signed for Madrid around 2000 when they tried to snatch him. Now that is just a lot of could've, would've and should've. I'm grateful he stayed though! <3 Totti! Il Grande Capitano! Er Pupone!

During Totti's time as captain for Roma they have won Serie A once and been runners-up 5 times (two of those thanks to Calciopoli though =/), won Coppa Italia twice and been runners-up three times (also Supercoppa Italiana winners twice, but that doesn't matter). When you consider how little money and stars they have had, relatively speaking, that is quite awe-inspiring.

If Roma beat SS Nazio next weekend I think they have a 70% chance of winning the league. I'm so excited. Forza Roma!