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+ Show Spoiler +On February 13 2016 12:37 Shootemup. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 08:59 KwarK wrote:
I forget. Pretty high. That's impressive though. MMR?
We should play hatchery dota sometime. Are there amateur leagues like there used to be for bw? We can be a team of starcraft players who got to know each other in eve playing dota. There's JDL, which is pretty fun. I would be down to play in a team, and I'm sure I could get Jed, Body, and Aeth to sign up. Getting Aeth to show up to matches consistently might be a problem though.
I would allow Firebird to be my understudy, if that would alleviate your concerns~
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Hyrule19152 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:00 Azerbaijan wrote:
Does there exist a ship that can solo a 5/10 plex that is not a Tengu or an Ishtar? I am quite far from t2 sentries and I have almost 0 missile skills. I could be in a Loki in 10 days but everyone on the internet seems to believe that the Loki is garbage.
loki has always been more viable for pvp than pve. Tengu has the benefit of being able to use a pvp fit for pve
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Loki is really only viable for webs in armor t3 fleets at this point. Arty lokis are a terrible fleet doctrine, arty is awful for solo, and auto cannon lokis are out shined by deimoses, proteuses, ham legions, and just about every single brawly ship in eve.
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Ugh, i feel like I can't do anything cool since my skills are all focused around the nanocane doctrine the Hatchery was into back in the day. I guess I need to either spend a while on missiles and work towards tengu, or get t2 heavies and t2 sentries and afk in an ishtar. Missiles seem like the generally better path but I just don't like them for some reason.
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On February 15 2016 14:25 Azerbaijan wrote:
Ugh, i feel like I can't do anything cool since my skills are all focused around the nanocane doctrine the Hatchery was into back in the day. I guess I need to either spend a while on missiles and work towards tengu, or get t2 heavies and t2 sentries and afk in an ishtar. Missiles seem like the generally better path but I just don't like them for some reason.
I mean I am using + Show Spoiler +[Ishtar,Ishtar]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster
Gist X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Drone Navigation Computer II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Warrior II x8
Caldari Navy Wasp x5
Wasp II x6
Infiltrator II x5
It does everything up to sanctums with the only issue being if you get webbed on a big wave, but the heavies can still take care if frigs pretty easily.
Other option also include the 100mn ab VNI which is comparable to the Ishtar and they both have the added bonus of not needing missile refills. Along with the passive fit Gila.
The one MAJOR downside to these though is that they will die very very quick to any smart hunters. A tengu can be fit for pvp and still be decent for pve.
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On February 15 2016 17:33 Cheesedawg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 14:25 Azerbaijan wrote:
Ugh, i feel like I can't do anything cool since my skills are all focused around the nanocane doctrine the Hatchery was into back in the day. I guess I need to either spend a while on missiles and work towards tengu, or get t2 heavies and t2 sentries and afk in an ishtar. Missiles seem like the generally better path but I just don't like them for some reason. I mean I am using + Show Spoiler +[Ishtar,Ishtar]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster
Gist X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Drone Navigation Computer II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Warrior II x8
Caldari Navy Wasp x5
Wasp II x6
Infiltrator II x5
This fit I am using at the moment to do stuff, but there are also 100mn AB passive fit ones that are as capable of doing sites. Meta the drone mods if you need to, and Faction heavies can be better because they have slightly better tracking, but don't get the benefit of the Racial Drone Spec skill. And heavies outperform sentries pretty hard after the drone speed changes. It does everything up to sanctums with the only issue being if you get webbed on a big wave, but the heavies can still take care if frigs pretty easily. Other option also include the 100mn ab VNI which is comparable to the Ishtar and they both have the added bonus of not needing missile refills. Along with the passive fit Gila. The one MAJOR downside to these though is that they will die very very quick to any smart hunters. A tengu can be fit for pvp and still be decent for pve.
Thanks, do you happen to have that VNI fit? Also if these can do sanctums can they also do serpentis 5/10's?
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United States43219 Posts
On February 15 2016 14:25 Azerbaijan wrote:
Ugh, i feel like I can't do anything cool since my skills are all focused around the nanocane doctrine the Hatchery was into back in the day. I guess I need to either spend a while on missiles and work towards tengu, or get t2 heavies and t2 sentries and afk in an ishtar. Missiles seem like the generally better path but I just don't like them for some reason.
Tornado?
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On February 15 2016 18:58 Azerbaijan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 17:33 Cheesedawg wrote:On February 15 2016 14:25 Azerbaijan wrote:
Ugh, i feel like I can't do anything cool since my skills are all focused around the nanocane doctrine the Hatchery was into back in the day. I guess I need to either spend a while on missiles and work towards tengu, or get t2 heavies and t2 sentries and afk in an ishtar. Missiles seem like the generally better path but I just don't like them for some reason. I mean I am using + Show Spoiler +[Ishtar,Ishtar]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster
Gist X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Drone Navigation Computer II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Warrior II x8
Caldari Navy Wasp x5
Wasp II x6
Infiltrator II x5
This fit I am using at the moment to do stuff, but there are also 100mn AB passive fit ones that are as capable of doing sites. Meta the drone mods if you need to, and Faction heavies can be better because they have slightly better tracking, but don't get the benefit of the Racial Drone Spec skill. And heavies outperform sentries pretty hard after the drone speed changes. It does everything up to sanctums with the only issue being if you get webbed on a big wave, but the heavies can still take care if frigs pretty easily. Other option also include the 100mn ab VNI which is comparable to the Ishtar and they both have the added bonus of not needing missile refills. Along with the passive fit Gila. The one MAJOR downside to these though is that they will die very very quick to any smart hunters. A tengu can be fit for pvp and still be decent for pve. Thanks, do you happen to have that VNI fit? Also if these can do sanctums can they also do serpentis 5/10's?
serpentis sites are pretty much the simplest ones around, the 7/10 being the easiest for a speed tanking drone boat like the vni/ishtar
(i did it with the vni against sansha several times, now i only use ishtars and currently i have no farming site in serpentis space so i currently do angel sites)
the equivalent to the 6/10 is a bit rough (due to strong neuts) but doable with repositioning and warping,
8 and 10/10 are also easy but you need to bring sentries to kill the final station from far enough away so it does not armor repair (so bring curators, since you only care about the shield resists) this will take some time
i personally have no experience with the 5/10
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On February 15 2016 18:58 Azerbaijan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 17:33 Cheesedawg wrote:On February 15 2016 14:25 Azerbaijan wrote:
Ugh, i feel like I can't do anything cool since my skills are all focused around the nanocane doctrine the Hatchery was into back in the day. I guess I need to either spend a while on missiles and work towards tengu, or get t2 heavies and t2 sentries and afk in an ishtar. Missiles seem like the generally better path but I just don't like them for some reason. I mean I am using + Show Spoiler +[Ishtar,Ishtar]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster
Gist X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Drone Navigation Computer II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Warrior II x8
Caldari Navy Wasp x5
Wasp II x6
Infiltrator II x5
This fit I am using at the moment to do stuff, but there are also 100mn AB passive fit ones that are as capable of doing sites. Meta the drone mods if you need to, and Faction heavies can be better because they have slightly better tracking, but don't get the benefit of the Racial Drone Spec skill. And heavies outperform sentries pretty hard after the drone speed changes. It does everything up to sanctums with the only issue being if you get webbed on a big wave, but the heavies can still take care if frigs pretty easily. Other option also include the 100mn ab VNI which is comparable to the Ishtar and they both have the added bonus of not needing missile refills. Along with the passive fit Gila. The one MAJOR downside to these though is that they will die very very quick to any smart hunters. A tengu can be fit for pvp and still be decent for pve. Thanks, do you happen to have that VNI fit? Also if these can do sanctums can they also do serpentis 5/10's?
+ Show Spoiler +[Vexor Navy Issue, 100mn]
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
100MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Thermal Dissipation Field II
Drone Link Augmentor II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Caldari Navy Wasp x5
Is the VNI fit for serpentis rats if I remember correctly.
And as for them being able to do the DED sites, I personally don't know. I don't really get to travel to do my escalations because they are often in very very hostile space.
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On February 16 2016 02:07 Cheesedawg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 18:58 Azerbaijan wrote:On February 15 2016 17:33 Cheesedawg wrote:On February 15 2016 14:25 Azerbaijan wrote:
Ugh, i feel like I can't do anything cool since my skills are all focused around the nanocane doctrine the Hatchery was into back in the day. I guess I need to either spend a while on missiles and work towards tengu, or get t2 heavies and t2 sentries and afk in an ishtar. Missiles seem like the generally better path but I just don't like them for some reason. I mean I am using + Show Spoiler +[Ishtar,Ishtar]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster
Gist X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Drone Navigation Computer II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Warrior II x8
Caldari Navy Wasp x5
Wasp II x6
Infiltrator II x5
This fit I am using at the moment to do stuff, but there are also 100mn AB passive fit ones that are as capable of doing sites. Meta the drone mods if you need to, and Faction heavies can be better because they have slightly better tracking, but don't get the benefit of the Racial Drone Spec skill. And heavies outperform sentries pretty hard after the drone speed changes. It does everything up to sanctums with the only issue being if you get webbed on a big wave, but the heavies can still take care if frigs pretty easily. Other option also include the 100mn ab VNI which is comparable to the Ishtar and they both have the added bonus of not needing missile refills. Along with the passive fit Gila. The one MAJOR downside to these though is that they will die very very quick to any smart hunters. A tengu can be fit for pvp and still be decent for pve. Thanks, do you happen to have that VNI fit? Also if these can do sanctums can they also do serpentis 5/10's? + Show Spoiler +[Vexor Navy Issue, 100mn]
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
100MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Thermal Dissipation Field II
Drone Link Augmentor II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Caldari Navy Wasp x5
Is the VNI fit for serpentis rats if I remember correctly. And as for them being able to do the DED sites, I personally don't know. I don't really get to travel to do my escalations because they are often in very very hostile space.
test in eft/pyfa, that you are capstable with your skills, if so replace cap power relays with power diagnostic systems, and maybe the compact afterburner with an enduring one
also most of the time extender rigs give better buffer and comparable recharge as purgers, so test this as well.
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On February 16 2016 00:14 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 14:25 Azerbaijan wrote:
Ugh, i feel like I can't do anything cool since my skills are all focused around the nanocane doctrine the Hatchery was into back in the day. I guess I need to either spend a while on missiles and work towards tengu, or get t2 heavies and t2 sentries and afk in an ishtar. Missiles seem like the generally better path but I just don't like them for some reason. Tornado?
Guess I should give some context. I have a 7 month old child now so its hard to find time where I can participate in any kind of pvp without having to risk getting up to help with the baby (this also a really good reason to quit league of legends XD). Because of this I have been doing different kinds of pve because I still want to play eve and its pretty easy to just dock up any time I need to step away from the game. Now that I am exploring different kinds of pve almost exclusively I do somewhat lament the fact that my skill points are extremely pvp oriented; specifically nanocane type stuff because I started playing when the hatchery was living in emol. I would love to get in a tornado but I don't think it offers anything in terms of the kind of content I do at the moment.
So I am interested in the loki because it benefits the most from the skills I already have and its a relatively short train to get there. My thought was that it would open up more interesting kinds of pve for like wormholes an such. Granted not being able to just dock up at anytime in a wormhole might not work with my rl situation.
Basically I feel like I'm kind of stagnating so I'm trying to find more interesting things to do besides missions and station trading. I have some rl friends that I got into the game but they want to do industrial things :/. I guess in any case I should head towards the tengu, its seems to be the king of versatility when it comes to content. I do have t2 heavy missiles even though I have no missile support skills. I think I at one point I was inspired to emulate the monocle drake but I stopped playing for a while.
^Thanks for the fits, I really appreciate it.
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I know some of the people here love market pvp and making money (in particular Kwark); do you trade in real life as well, or thought about it?
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I would eventually like to get into day trading once I have some disposable income to support it. For now its just eve market and trading CSGO skins.
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Is The Hatchery still alive?
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Hyrule19152 Posts
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Does kwark want to share trade secrets so life of jita margin trader isn't as pathetic? (I know i make shit moneys [1.8b liquid if i take everything out] but for me it's fine for 10m of work atm.)
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So, after i got my money from the referral, i bought skillbooster and put the points into exploration...it seems to make good money for a new guy like me, but i feel its pretty much capped now, i cant grow it.
I train for T2 covops cloak and thats pretty much the extend i can improve it.
With some effort i made enough money to have a bit more than 700K SP unused from injectors.
Any ideas what i can do now that scales better?
I tried a bit of trading in jita because when i sold my loot i noticed some buy orders are atrociously low compared to the sell orders so i made some myself, but if i look around most items seem swarmed by tons of traders, so id assume most "gaps" will be closed very quickly.
I did some missions but i fell asleep, so not doing that ever again.
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On February 21 2016 21:46 LaNague wrote:
So, after i got my money from the referral, i bought skillbooster and put the points into exploration...it seems to make good money for a new guy like me, but i feel its pretty much capped now, i cant grow it.
I train for T2 covops cloak and thats pretty much the extend i can improve it.
With some effort i made enough money to have a bit more than 700K SP unused from injectors.
Any ideas what i can do now that scales better?
I tried a bit of trading in jita because when i sold my loot i noticed some buy orders are atrociously low compared to the sell orders so i made some myself, but if i look around most items seem swarmed by tons of traders, so id assume most "gaps" will be closed very quickly.
I did some missions but i fell asleep, so not doing that ever again.
trading and all kinds of activities where you get money from other players, are those which scale best (scamming, theft, a casino where people can lose their isk to you (the bank) etc)
i like running nullsec DED sites, because of the thrill of being hunted and getting pvp inside the deadspace pocket so they cant easily get support, but it is very unstable income, best sites drop a ~bil, worst 60m... as said earlier as soon as you have like gallente cruiser 4 and heavy drones 4 you can do 7/10 easily (which can drop like 60-500m)
for instance 10/10 drop a pirate battleship bpc at about 20-30% of the cases.... i think most valuable are serpentis sites, 2 are angel and from there it goes down... X-types
but again i do it for the fun pvp situations as posted earlier: https://zkillboard.com/kill/51913305/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/51912613/ sometimes i just fuck up though: https://zkillboard.com/kill/51351096/
some people like doing FW for income and fun.... some do lvl5 lowsec mission blitzing with carriers or long range sniping battleships which is also dangerous (at least decently) and good isk... my advice would be: combine risk and reward and it wont get to boring
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ok i understand 1 place trading i think, you cash in on lazyness on objects that have a gap between buy and sell orders.
Are there any tools to help me locate those items?
Do people bot that? id hate to compete against bots that automate pricve matching.
And are there more productive things you can do?
i think playing logistics would be nice, make stuff move around where its needed. But noooo idea how to get started, i probably would need to know a lot more about the game for that one.
Id love to play transport tycoon in space actually lol.
i find the scammers interesting, its like a riddle for me as a new player to figure out how each of these contracs posted in local chat are screwing me over.
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