EVE Corporation - Page 1272

On September 19 2012 11:09 abominare wrote:


Eve rule of thumb is to specialize, more and more I'm starting to side with the finance training in me and say, diversify your (skill) portfolio.

On September 19 2012 16:56 Lysenko wrote:
OK, so I get that it sounds like Drakes are no longer as good as they were, but can someone start over at the beginning and explain exactly what all of this means? Start with the assumption that I didn't know what they were good at before and don't know what the changes are doing to them.

On September 20 2012 01:17 Shootemup. wrote:
I understand that you want to learn, but this stuff isn't hard. Go read up on how missiles work then read the post again.

On September 20 2012 01:52 Lysenko wrote:
saying "you should be able to figure this out for yourself" is a dick move.

On September 19 2012 16:56 Lysenko wrote:
OK, so I get that it sounds like Drakes are no longer as good as they were, but can someone start over at the beginning and explain exactly what all of this means? Start with the assumption that I didn't know what they were good at before and don't know what the changes are doing to them.

On September 20 2012 01:52 Lysenko wrote:


OK, look. I understand in general terms how missile damage works, with respect to velocity and signature radius. But, looking at the original dev post, there are a ton of factors changing around. The velocity of heavy missiles is increasing, which should improve its damage against faster targets, but its base damage and range are decreasing. What am I supposed to get from this?

I can tell the change makes using heavy missiles worse, but I don't have any context for it. Do you want to offer me some kind of hint about what I should be reading up about?

I'll be honest with you -- saying "you should be able to figure this out for yourself" is a dick move. It's fucking opaque.

Edit: There's also the issue of how people used missiles in the past and why these changes call that into question. I can read about missile mechanics until I'm blue in the face but it won't explain to me why people considered Drakes good in this or that situation before, but not after these changes. Or am I misinterpreting, and all of this isn't that big a deal? I don't even have any way to tell.

Yeah, I can tell the damage is getting nerfed, but what does it mean? How does it hold up to other ships in a similar class? Is this nerf making the ship worse than all the alternatives, or is it just bringing it into line with other ships with similar skill requirements?

All those numbers in Ramiel's post probably mean something to people who have been flying the ships in question. To me those are just numbers. My reason for posting was to get the perspective of someone who has intuition for these ships' capabilities.

On September 19 2012 19:12 Ramiel wrote:
It sucks when you are killed by bullshit.

Perma Jammed from 180K by a falcon. Fight took forever, I just was never un-jammed through out the entire fight.... and I was flying with Info link. It was by far the most retarded thing that has ever happened to me in a tengu. I was taking low damage, my shield rep could handle it. But i just couldn't shoot a single ship. That phantasm put my booster over the edge eventually, I had to heat. I think i had about 4 shots on it, before I was re jammed. Then after that it was just a slow and painful death.

Le sigh.

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14666503

On September 20 2012 03:12 JJoNeEightY wrote:


Shoulda loaded FoFs~