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TrojanSC2
United States82 Posts
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s0Li
United States406 Posts
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Not_Computer
Canada2277 Posts
30 seconds... "Hmm" 1 minute... 1 minute 30 seconds... "I think I may lose this bet." 1 minute 50 seconds... "Oh well." (paraphrased, can't remember what he said) Then a bunch of shit comes through and we kill it all. When we got back home I man up and give him the isk. Aeth Gemulus > \o/ | ||
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freestalker
469 Posts
On March 08 2012 07:15 Manit0u wrote: I forgot everything  Created new char and all is fine now. Previously it was really bugged, I even got 2 ships as a reward.What happened to skillbooks over the years though? I remember previously getting basic stuff to use simple shield boosters and repair systems you could get right off the bat. Now you have 5k isk and prices start at around 25k. Getting 0.5k/mission isn't fun either. You get many skillbooks for free if you do 'specialization' missions, after the first bunch of tutorial missions. Also better isk there  and free ships.. | ||
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freestalker
469 Posts
On March 08 2012 10:16 TrojanSC2 wrote: Aight, cool. I'll probably be joining as BlueThundeR or something like that. It's a trap! look at his nick! >_> | ||
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JJoNeEightY
United States509 Posts
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419
Russian Federation3631 Posts
On March 08 2012 17:26 Not_Computer wrote: So we're sitting around looking for gud fites but nothing really happening. Aeth says he has a feeling something will come in to fight us in the next 2 minutes. I bet him there won't be. We wait... 30 seconds... "Hmm" 1 minute... 1 minute 30 seconds... "I think I may lose this bet." 1 minute 50 seconds... "Oh well." (paraphrased, can't remember what he said) Then a bunch of shit comes through and we kill it all. When we got back home I man up and give him the isk. Aeth Gemulus > \o/ relevant link: http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12674402 from 7:42 | ||
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Angel[BTL]
Romania345 Posts
First and foremost I wanted to know if the game has become much easier as some of the people complain on eve forums. I just read some of the threads from general and there were like 5-6 with "I'm quiting". Are they justified ? Some of the vets are complaining that the game has become boring. What do you say? When I played I was in a corporation who was in some big alliance and fought wars but I've discovered that the big wars (200-300 on either side) we're a lagfest. When you jumped into a crowded station (during the battle I mean) you either get to shoot once or twice or you just discovered yourself as a pod and then back to your station. The lag meant it was impossible to have those awesome battles from the trailers. Another issue that bothered me was ganking near the jumpgates. From what I've seen it was mostly some guys sitting on some jumpgate and when some poor fellows we're jumping they would get shot and not have a chance. In those days I dreamt of being able to have a squad of 10-12 members who would meet an equal amount of players and battle it showing the skills and not the idea of big blobs winning much more than skillwise. Now I realize that maybe I'm wrong since I haven't played that much but that was my initial impression. Did they address these issues ? Another issue that comes to mind is that in those times the idea of bounty hunter (from the trailer) was something so cool. But the implementation was somewhat lacking because from what I understood the player could strike some deal with someone else and they would just shoot them and then split the reward. That's why the bounty hunter idea didn't work. The only magnificent battles that I've seen and it was mostly skills was the battles that Eve Devs arranged between the alliances with 5 on one team and 5 on the other. I think it was the most balanced way of fighting that I've seen in eve but for the usual player they didn't have that option since it was based only on invitation and you needed to play a lot and be in a big alliance otherwise you didn't get picked. Are there 1 on 1 battles? This is another concern of mine. I know the game isn't supposed to play in this way since it is a mmo and it puts the accent on team management but from your experience does it happen ? And in the end is the game fun? I would incline yes since this is the eve thread but I wanted to hear it from you. Maybe some of you play it because you invested a lot of time and you don't want to invest in another game. I'm just saying. | ||
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419
Russian Federation3631 Posts
I just read some of the threads from general and there were like 5-6 with "I'm quiting". Are they justified ? Some of the vets are complaining that the game has become boring. What do you say? I've unsubbed due to 'bitter-vetting' before. There are a lot of 'flaws' with Eve, on the other hand, the flaws (high risk aversion among a high percentage of the playerbase) grow out of the very things that make Eve so unique (real consequences). The lag meant it was impossible to have those awesome battles from the trailers. Yes, sov warfare sucks. In those days I dreamt of being able to have a squad of 10-12 members who would meet an equal amount of players and battle it showing the skills and not the idea of big blobs winning much more than skillwise. There is a lot of that. Since losing a ship actually means something, a lot of people will not put their ships in situations where they think its highly likely they will lose ships. Its possible to outplay them -- in fact, The Hatchery has a routine of picking on the EC- gatecampers, almost daily. See: http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12573579 Personally, I really think that fighting larger gangs is a prerequisite for the much sought :good fights:. For example: http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12607149 http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10623941 The last link is from a while ago but it was an incredibly memorable fight. Did they address these issues ? You're looking at this from the wrong perspective. The issue was never there, its always been possible to outplay larger blobs. Are there 1 on 1 battles? This is another concern of mine. I know the game isn't supposed to play in this way since it is a mmo and it puts the accent on team management but from your experience does it happen ? There are people who honor 1v1 battles, though solo pvp in Eve is more tailored toward 1vX. And in the end is the game fun? I will say that the game is incredibly rewarding to play so long as you're with the right people. | ||
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Mandini
United States1717 Posts
A lot of people who say they are quitting don't actually quit. TiDi has apparently mitigated a lot of the problems with lag in huge fleet fights. Of course there are gatecamps, and you will probably die if you jump into one without the right ship. We like to kill the campers though. Bounties dont work, its just a form of advertisement. There are 1v1s, but don't get mad if it gets betrayed, as it will happen. EVE is awesome, and my post on page 999 elaborates on why the TL alliance is awesome. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17664 Posts
Taranis, Thorax, Phobos and Deimos specifically. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19193 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17664 Posts
Currently testing out Amarr on this trial as I was flying Caldari ships the last time I played. | ||
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TurpinOS
Canada1223 Posts
On March 09 2012 00:17 Manit0u wrote: Just one question guys, why aren't you flying Gallente at all? Some of their ships seem quite nice: Taranis, Thorax, Phobos and Deimos specifically. Most of them are solo ships (or ''lets fly a gang of thorax'') so they dont really fit with what hatch flies. | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule19193 Posts
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freestalker
469 Posts
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On March 08 2012 19:24 Angel[BTL] wrote: Another issue that bothered me was ganking near the jumpgates. From what I've seen it was mostly some guys sitting on some jumpgate and when some poor fellows we're jumping they would get shot and not have a chance. In those days I dreamt of being able to have a squad of 10-12 members who would meet an equal amount of players and battle it showing the skills and not the idea of big blobs winning much more than skillwise. Now I realize that maybe I'm wrong since I haven't played that much but that was my initial impression. [1] Are there 1 on 1 battles? [2] [1] The thing about gatecampers is this: they don't want a fight. If they're camping with 10 guys, they won't even BOTHER if you jump 5 guys in. They are not looking for PvP, just random killmails. Most gatecamps are easily dealt with by just jumping a few guys into system and watching them scatter like roaches in the light. [2] Ho boy. Okay so BBQ said it best. There is no community concept of *e-honour* or any such way to formalize a 1v1. There's a lot of risk-averse faggotry in EVE because people are poor and bad at the game or whatever. So instead of looking for 1v1s, I go out in search of things I can kill. If I'm in my frigate and I see a gang of 5 guys, I don't say "well damn 5v1 isn't fair" I just see that they have x,y,z and I think "hey I can kill x" and work from there. Sometimes you have to go stir up a hornet's nest to even get a fight tbh. If you're in a system with 2 other guys in the same corp, it's not terribly likely that either of them are willing to fight you. But if you're in a system with 100 other guys, it's very likely you can find something (i.e. they will undock a 30 man gang and hunt for you). A lot of getting fights in game is about psychology. People fight Hatchery over and over and over despite a history of crushing defeats. Why? Because Hatchery flies around with a fucking skeleton crew of ships against 50 man gangs. The 50 man gang is not, under any circumstances, ever going to think "hey I think we are bound to lose this". Same principle applies to solo pvp. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On March 08 2012 19:52 419 wrote: I've unsubbed due to 'bitter-vetting' before. There are a lot of 'flaws' with Eve, on the other hand, the flaws (high risk aversion among a high percentage of the playerbase) grow out of the very things that make Eve so unique (real consequences). Yes, sov warfare sucks. There is a lot of that. Since losing a ship actually means something, a lot of people will not put their ships in situations where they think its highly likely they will lose ships. Its possible to outplay them -- in fact, The Hatchery has a routine of picking on the EC- gatecampers, almost daily. See: http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12573579 Personally, I really think that fighting larger gangs is a prerequisite for the much sought :good fights:. For example: http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12607149 http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10623941 The last link is from a while ago but it was an incredibly memorable fight. You're looking at this from the wrong perspective. The issue was never there, its always been possible to outplay larger blobs. There are people who honor 1v1 battles, though solo pvp in Eve is more tailored toward 1vX. I will say that the game is incredibly rewarding to play so long as you're with the right people. That second fight looks badass. (Almost) Tru DS style. Also Jerseyboi dieing is always a good sight, he's probably one of the most annoying solo PvPers since like 3 years. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17664 Posts
Too drunk today though... | ||
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JJoNeEightY
United States509 Posts
On March 09 2012 10:22 Manit0u wrote: Hatchery, here I come! Too drunk today though... No such thing as too drunk for spaceships. Hop on teamspeak and revel with your fellow Hatchery Alcoholics, including but not limited to, Jed, Chessur, and, uh, I'm sure I'm forgetting someone else *hic.* We need more goofiness on our comms! | ||
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