EPTTL Mafia V: The Town Strikes Back - Page 22
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
@LucasWoj: Caller's jack description has nothing in it. So how can we be so sure RoL is even telling the truth until Caller lets us know. I'm not even sounding angry right now. I'm just surprised I need to convince anyone of anything when on the first day RoL claims to be a jack, picks me and I should be lynched. But since you are so blindly believing him why don't you tell us why I should be lynched? It is a trap. The town is playing off of Mafia 3 right now hoping to lynch me first. And this time I'm not mafia. Townies: look at the the vote blog and pay special attention to the people voting for me off the bat. There are NO good reasons to vote me to die and these players are already doing so. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
You dont have any. You can't verify you're role claim because it's still Day 1 and you "allegedly" used a DT power on me - which means we can't ask you to do anything to verify yourself. I'm not even trying to out talk you, I'm letting everyone know your bullshitting  I know I'm not mafia, you know I'm not mafia, and I know that your alleged "buddies" know that I'm not mafia too. you still haven't proved anything, I'm still waiting. | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
Similar things happened in Chuiu's mafia game 3 and someone did a rolecheck on you on the first day and it turned out you were mafia. Why doesn't the same apply to this game? I can't say you're innocent because what RoL, despite having no proof, said could be true. +what malongo said about "ace and me" is suspcious. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7637 Posts
A) Rol is part of a mafia strategy to eliminate ace B) Ace is a smooth talking mafioso or C) ROL is fucking up the game and is the village_idiot. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
It is day one, we have little to no evidence to work with. We have behavior to work with, not much else. As I stated before, the very nature of a role claim at this stage in the game is that the proof of my role rests with either my lynch, or yours. Nothing else. We can have another DT check one of us, but that seems kind of redundant at this point. However if another DT wants to check me or you, feel free. To address that Caller/Jack role thing. why would I bother lying about something that can be so EASILY checked? You must seriously think I am retarded. My alleged buddies are told simple advice, don't trust anyone with your role info or anything vital. Until this is all sorted out, I stress role secrecy. I don't even ask for there roles until we have some trust sorted out. The problem is that if they tell me their roles, I will take that into consideration when making my decisions, I don't want to be biased by what could be lies yet. So I am attempting to avoid that, while I also wish to protect them from each other. I'm not even sounding angry right now. I'm just surprised I need to convince anyone of anything when on the first day RoL claims to be a jack, picks me and I should be lynched. But since you are so blindly believing him why don't you tell us why I should be lynched? and to this, what do you suggest we do? On any given day one, a role claim and role check are the strongest things you have to go off of, what I am saying is your strongest LEAD (I will be saying lead instead of evidence now) Behavior is not shown too well, except by circumstances like these, on day one. The evidence is weak on day one, there is no better lead then a role call and kill the role called, rather than risk a DT/Jack. What arguments or logic have you brought fourth for not listening to me? there really hasn't been any, but until a stronger alternative is brought forward, lynching you is the best course of action in this case. Once again, refer to the nature of a role claim. Its not based off of clues or evidence. Yet its the strongest thing to go off of on day one. | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
On December 30 2008 10:09 AttackZerg wrote: Guys please post more, I am only abstaining from voting because I can't figure out if A) Rol is part of a mafia strategy to eliminate ace B) Ace is a smooth talking mafioso or C) ROL is fucking up the game and is the village_idiot. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_most_common_answer_on_multiple_choice_tests | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
We'll wait for Caller to post this, because I'm pretty sure you're lying about that. And if you're alleged buddies were told to do that - how are they trusting you? Allegedly you are the only person in the entire game who can 100% find out someone's ID. And your buddies trust you? Come on, you know as well as I do that does NOT add up. And of course I'm attacking your posts - you try to get me lynched on the first day of the game. @clazz: I don't have anything to do with malongo. If I was mafia why the hell would I ask for any of my mafia buddies to defend me? We all know I don't need help with that. You shouldn't ignore RoL, but you also should take what he says with more scrutiny. He says he has a core of buddies, but none of them can prove anything to each other and only 1 person in the entire game (allegedly) can know someone's role. How can their be a circle of legit trust formed so fast? Answer that. Seriously, this is getting stupid. | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On December 30 2008 10:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: and to this, what do you suggest we do? On any given day one, a role claim and role check are the strongest things you have to go off of, what I am saying is your strongest LEAD (I will be saying lead instead of evidence now) Behavior is not shown too well, except by circumstances like these, on day one. The evidence is weak on day one, there is no better lead then a role call and kill the role called, rather than risk a DT/Jack. What arguments or logic have you brought fourth for not listening to me? there really hasn't been any, but until a stronger alternative is brought forward, lynching you is the best course of action in this case. Once again, refer to the nature of a role claim. Its not based off of clues or evidence. Yet its the strongest thing to go off of on day one. Why would we ever lynched the accused when their are GODFATHERS and INSANE Dts in the game? No one is 100% sure what they have is legit. Until Caller sorts this out, we can't even believe you. You just admitted you have no clues or evidence. You said behavior is not shown too well except by circumstances like this? So how is this helping?  all my logic does make sense. You can't prove you are a jack, and you can't prove to any of your alleged buddies your role either. I highly doubt this early in the game any of them told you their roles when no one has been lynched. It's not adding up on your end. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On December 30 2008 10:17 Incognito wrote: If I don't know Ace's role I won't know if its worth keeping him alive or not. Either way, we kill both of you we find a mafia. I don't know Ace's alleged role, but I do now RoLs. Thus we'll have to kill Ace first if we are to find out anything. And both of you are BSing. You are not adding anything useful to the discussion. We can't trust you saying RoL is lying without evidence. A rolecheck claim is more convincing than just saying someone is lying. For the last time I am not telling you my role. | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
On December 30 2008 10:20 Ace wrote: For the last time I am not telling you my role. Mafioso? How can he have evidence? In Mafia 3, how did Folca have any evidence? Same thing applies here, I thought? I think if you flip out blue/green, then we can just kill RoL. We should just follow the same plan as game 3. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
I'd tell you that it's clear cut RoL is mafia, but with the VI role I can't be sure. And with appearing as a green to role checks the only thing we would know is if he's lying about being a blue. Right now we'll wait for Caller to post, since as RoL claims it can be easily checked. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7637 Posts
On December 30 2008 10:20 Ace wrote: For the last time I am not telling you my role. A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. CHANGE YOUR VOTE, VOTE VER. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On December 30 2008 09:37 Ace wrote: Ok I'll ask since the entire town should know: Caller, can the Jack be insane/sane or is the jacks role reveals always 100% true? And secondly, I know you're bullshitting and this is some sort of mafia trap to get me lynched or you are the village idiot. Already you've got people bandwagonning against me when you're premise makes no sense. No one has verified if you're a Jack or not, and likewise no one has verified if I'm mafia or not except YOU. One person made a smurf account to say they are the real Jack and I'm betting it's legit - this is some sort of crooked plan to lure them out. Last game I was a front for a DT. How is it that you not even saying you are in contact = to having less risk? That makes no sense. You haven't made any contacts. Stop lying. And lastly I'm not mafia, and your post makes it sound as if you are lynching me because you checked some other high ranked player( maybe Ver), maybe saw he has a blue role and figured shit, Ace might as well be mafia now. Because there's no way you could be going this far to get me lynched unless you're not even 100% sure (which you aren't) or you are the Village Idiot. But in this game we can't even take your word because with the roles the way they are now, one townie surely doesn't have to play for the town's favor. Secondly, we can't prove anything about who YOU are. Go ahead, say this isn't making any sense. We'll wait for Caller to clear this up and we'll wait for some other DTs to vouch for you. jack is sane | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7637 Posts
On December 30 2008 10:29 AttackZerg wrote: A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. CHANGE YOUR VOTE, VOTE VER. A little birdie told me Ver was red. QFT | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
Ace, there you have it. The fact that you were even asking that shows that you're tremendously desperate or you're part of the mafia putting on a show. | ||
Ver
United States2186 Posts
I only have 20 minutes myself before I must go (will be back in like 7 hours) so rather than try to dissect this argument I will go onto other town strategy. And yes I agree with Mynock that things are more than they seem. Caller can we get an extension? | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7637 Posts
On December 30 2008 10:36 Ver wrote: Things are moving faster than can be comprehended. I only have 20 minutes myself before I must go (will be back in like 7 hours) so rather than try to dissect this argument I will go onto other town strategy. And yes I agree with Mynock that things are more than they seem. Caller can we get an extension? A little birdie told me Ver was red. A little birdie told me Ver was red. No extension, kill him, its him. Little birdies don't lie. | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
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