EPTOn November 30 2011 13:25 Fruscainte wrote:
Then, I must inquire, why did you comment on a video...if you did not watch the video?
*confused*
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On November 30 2011 13:23 blade55555 wrote:
No I didn't,
On November 30 2011 12:58 Fruscainte wrote:
Yes, of course he did.
I just think it's rather...unprofessional, for the animations to be in this state this close to release. And of course I stick to my guns in thinking that saying "It's just Beta!" is the biggest cop-out ever.
Also, some of that stuff was, by no means "minor." It was stuff that should not have even been allowed to still be an issue in the Alpha, let alone 3 weeks before release.
I think you didn't even watch the video...? Unless you have an affinity for completely immersion breaking bugs and glitches.
On November 30 2011 12:54 Orcasgt24 wrote:
I hope your friend made bug reports on these issues. They don't seem all that big of a deal really. Very minor animation glitches that open beta is ment to catch. If they go unfixed then ya its bad but meh, it IS A beta.
Lt. Jorgan in his very first cut scene is 1 inch tall lol!
On November 30 2011 12:21 Fruscainte wrote:
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=1ZYG9KXF
I have no idea where my friend got this from, but yeah. Some beta footage he(?) compiled in the past few days. Password is "vidya" to watch it.
Honestly, I do hope they fix this shit. I really do want this game to succeed at the end of the day, because I love the notion of a Star Wars MMO --- however this kind of stuff just CAN'T fly. Either fix it, or just remove it; I never understood the premise of lots of cutscenes in an MMO. This kind of...I don't even know what to call it should not be in a game that should have the level of production value this game should. If that makes sense.
And before someone pulls the "ITS IN BETA" card on me, remember this: Alpha is when the game is finished, Closed Beta is when the minor kinks are worked out and the bugs are for the most part fixed. Open Beta is 100% purely stress testing servers, or at least it -should- be. This game is released in less than what, 3 weeks? These kinds of glaring issues should not be in the game still =/
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=1ZYG9KXF
I have no idea where my friend got this from, but yeah. Some beta footage he(?) compiled in the past few days. Password is "vidya" to watch it.
Honestly, I do hope they fix this shit. I really do want this game to succeed at the end of the day, because I love the notion of a Star Wars MMO --- however this kind of stuff just CAN'T fly. Either fix it, or just remove it; I never understood the premise of lots of cutscenes in an MMO. This kind of...I don't even know what to call it should not be in a game that should have the level of production value this game should. If that makes sense.
And before someone pulls the "ITS IN BETA" card on me, remember this: Alpha is when the game is finished, Closed Beta is when the minor kinks are worked out and the bugs are for the most part fixed. Open Beta is 100% purely stress testing servers, or at least it -should- be. This game is released in less than what, 3 weeks? These kinds of glaring issues should not be in the game still =/
I hope your friend made bug reports on these issues. They don't seem all that big of a deal really. Very minor animation glitches that open beta is ment to catch. If they go unfixed then ya its bad but meh, it IS A beta.
Lt. Jorgan in his very first cut scene is 1 inch tall lol!
Yes, of course he did.
I just think it's rather...unprofessional, for the animations to be in this state this close to release. And of course I stick to my guns in thinking that saying "It's just Beta!" is the biggest cop-out ever.
Also, some of that stuff was, by no means "minor." It was stuff that should not have even been allowed to still be an issue in the Alpha, let alone 3 weeks before release.
On November 30 2011 12:54 blade55555 wrote:
If you didn't like how the game looks now its not going to change and I hope it doesn't as I love it now unless they made the fighting better. Otherwise this is awesome :D
On November 30 2011 12:21 Fruscainte wrote:
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=1ZYG9KXF
I have no idea where my friend got this from, but yeah. Some beta footage he(?) compiled in the past few days. Password is "vidya" to watch it.
Honestly, I do hope they fix this shit. I really do want this game to succeed at the end of the day, because I love the notion of a Star Wars MMO --- however this kind of stuff just CAN'T fly. Either fix it, or just remove it; I never understood the premise of lots of cutscenes in an MMO. This kind of...I don't even know what to call it should not be in a game that should have the level of production value this game should. If that makes sense.
And before someone pulls the "ITS IN BETA" card on me, remember this: Alpha is when the game is finished, Closed Beta is when the minor kinks are worked out and the bugs are for the most part fixed. Open Beta is 100% purely stress testing servers, or at least it -should- be. This game is released in less than what, 3 weeks? These kinds of glaring issues should not be in the game still =/
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=1ZYG9KXF
I have no idea where my friend got this from, but yeah. Some beta footage he(?) compiled in the past few days. Password is "vidya" to watch it.
Honestly, I do hope they fix this shit. I really do want this game to succeed at the end of the day, because I love the notion of a Star Wars MMO --- however this kind of stuff just CAN'T fly. Either fix it, or just remove it; I never understood the premise of lots of cutscenes in an MMO. This kind of...I don't even know what to call it should not be in a game that should have the level of production value this game should. If that makes sense.
And before someone pulls the "ITS IN BETA" card on me, remember this: Alpha is when the game is finished, Closed Beta is when the minor kinks are worked out and the bugs are for the most part fixed. Open Beta is 100% purely stress testing servers, or at least it -should- be. This game is released in less than what, 3 weeks? These kinds of glaring issues should not be in the game still =/
If you didn't like how the game looks now its not going to change and I hope it doesn't as I love it now unless they made the fighting better. Otherwise this is awesome :D
I think you didn't even watch the video...? Unless you have an affinity for completely immersion breaking bugs and glitches.
No I didn't,
Then, I must inquire, why did you comment on a video...if you did not watch the video?
*confused*
Because its just a bunch of bugs from what I saw and from experience of playing all weekend I saw no bugs so not worried about it. Not going to go download a video would rather watch it on youtube if you are going to link a video.
On November 30 2011 16:45 aksfjh wrote:
You do beta tests when you feel software is fully functional and are looking for bugs which cause annoyance. I haven't had time to watch the video, but as long as the game is playable, they're fine. Plus, who's to say many of these bugs weren't created or exacerbated by the open beta itself?
Either way, I don't think you even have solid ground to criticize and are just trying to create a ruckus.
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On November 30 2011 13:10 Fruscainte wrote:
It's common knowledge in the practice that 3 weeks before release Open Beta is not when you should be fixing glaring issues such as this. This is the time to stress test servers and make sure when you got 1 million people playing on Day 1 that your servers don't get fucked over and to make sure shit doesn't tear at the seams at release. This is some very basic and obvious syncing, glitching, and just outright unprofessional bugs that should not be in the game at this stage. If they fix them all by release? Yeah sure, great, good job Bioware. However, it does not bode well if these kinds of things are still (relatively) common this close to release.
Also, you just essentially said "I don't care if the game is bad at release, I have faith in Bioware that they will release patches to fix the game!" Relying on day 1, 2, or 3 patches to fix the game and make it to a level that it should have been at release only hurts a company and a release as major as this. And Bioware's recent track record is not that great, either, unfortunately =/
And before someone jumps at my throat, I am not here to bash this game. I am providing in-game videos of these bugs in hopes of the community, and furthermore Bioware become aware of the state that some of the stuff in this game is STILL in. Some people have this fantasy that the word "Beta" means "Unfinished." No, Alpha and Pre-Alpha is the assembly. Beta is the paint job and polishing.
On November 30 2011 13:04 Orcasgt24 wrote:
But it is a beta. What we played and some still get to play is not done yet. Sure the game is being sent out for packaging shipping already but that doesn't mean they cann't and won't fix the problems. If those problems exist into release then its a problem but as of right now, I am not concerened and stand behind Biowares fantastic track record for quality
On November 30 2011 12:58 Fruscainte wrote:
Yes, of course he did.
I just think it's rather...unprofessional, for the animations to be in this state this close to release. And of course I stick to my guns in thinking that saying "It's just Beta!" is the biggest cop-out ever.
I think you didn't even watch the video...? Unless you have an affinity for completely immersion breaking bugs and glitches.
On November 30 2011 12:54 Orcasgt24 wrote:
I hope your friend made bug reports on these issues. They don't seem all that big of a deal really. Very minor animation glitches that open beta is ment to catch. If they go unfixed then ya its bad but meh, it IS A beta.
Lt. Jorgan in his very first cut scene is 1 inch tall lol!
On November 30 2011 12:21 Fruscainte wrote:
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=1ZYG9KXF
I have no idea where my friend got this from, but yeah. Some beta footage he(?) compiled in the past few days. Password is "vidya" to watch it.
Honestly, I do hope they fix this shit. I really do want this game to succeed at the end of the day, because I love the notion of a Star Wars MMO --- however this kind of stuff just CAN'T fly. Either fix it, or just remove it; I never understood the premise of lots of cutscenes in an MMO. This kind of...I don't even know what to call it should not be in a game that should have the level of production value this game should. If that makes sense.
And before someone pulls the "ITS IN BETA" card on me, remember this: Alpha is when the game is finished, Closed Beta is when the minor kinks are worked out and the bugs are for the most part fixed. Open Beta is 100% purely stress testing servers, or at least it -should- be. This game is released in less than what, 3 weeks? These kinds of glaring issues should not be in the game still =/
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=1ZYG9KXF
I have no idea where my friend got this from, but yeah. Some beta footage he(?) compiled in the past few days. Password is "vidya" to watch it.
Honestly, I do hope they fix this shit. I really do want this game to succeed at the end of the day, because I love the notion of a Star Wars MMO --- however this kind of stuff just CAN'T fly. Either fix it, or just remove it; I never understood the premise of lots of cutscenes in an MMO. This kind of...I don't even know what to call it should not be in a game that should have the level of production value this game should. If that makes sense.
And before someone pulls the "ITS IN BETA" card on me, remember this: Alpha is when the game is finished, Closed Beta is when the minor kinks are worked out and the bugs are for the most part fixed. Open Beta is 100% purely stress testing servers, or at least it -should- be. This game is released in less than what, 3 weeks? These kinds of glaring issues should not be in the game still =/
I hope your friend made bug reports on these issues. They don't seem all that big of a deal really. Very minor animation glitches that open beta is ment to catch. If they go unfixed then ya its bad but meh, it IS A beta.
Lt. Jorgan in his very first cut scene is 1 inch tall lol!
Yes, of course he did.
I just think it's rather...unprofessional, for the animations to be in this state this close to release. And of course I stick to my guns in thinking that saying "It's just Beta!" is the biggest cop-out ever.
On November 30 2011 12:54 blade55555 wrote:
If you didn't like how the game looks now its not going to change and I hope it doesn't as I love it now unless they made the fighting better. Otherwise this is awesome :D
On November 30 2011 12:21 Fruscainte wrote:
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=1ZYG9KXF
I have no idea where my friend got this from, but yeah. Some beta footage he(?) compiled in the past few days. Password is "vidya" to watch it.
Honestly, I do hope they fix this shit. I really do want this game to succeed at the end of the day, because I love the notion of a Star Wars MMO --- however this kind of stuff just CAN'T fly. Either fix it, or just remove it; I never understood the premise of lots of cutscenes in an MMO. This kind of...I don't even know what to call it should not be in a game that should have the level of production value this game should. If that makes sense.
And before someone pulls the "ITS IN BETA" card on me, remember this: Alpha is when the game is finished, Closed Beta is when the minor kinks are worked out and the bugs are for the most part fixed. Open Beta is 100% purely stress testing servers, or at least it -should- be. This game is released in less than what, 3 weeks? These kinds of glaring issues should not be in the game still =/
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=1ZYG9KXF
I have no idea where my friend got this from, but yeah. Some beta footage he(?) compiled in the past few days. Password is "vidya" to watch it.
Honestly, I do hope they fix this shit. I really do want this game to succeed at the end of the day, because I love the notion of a Star Wars MMO --- however this kind of stuff just CAN'T fly. Either fix it, or just remove it; I never understood the premise of lots of cutscenes in an MMO. This kind of...I don't even know what to call it should not be in a game that should have the level of production value this game should. If that makes sense.
And before someone pulls the "ITS IN BETA" card on me, remember this: Alpha is when the game is finished, Closed Beta is when the minor kinks are worked out and the bugs are for the most part fixed. Open Beta is 100% purely stress testing servers, or at least it -should- be. This game is released in less than what, 3 weeks? These kinds of glaring issues should not be in the game still =/
If you didn't like how the game looks now its not going to change and I hope it doesn't as I love it now unless they made the fighting better. Otherwise this is awesome :D
I think you didn't even watch the video...? Unless you have an affinity for completely immersion breaking bugs and glitches.
But it is a beta. What we played and some still get to play is not done yet. Sure the game is being sent out for packaging shipping already but that doesn't mean they cann't and won't fix the problems. If those problems exist into release then its a problem but as of right now, I am not concerened and stand behind Biowares fantastic track record for quality
It's common knowledge in the practice that 3 weeks before release Open Beta is not when you should be fixing glaring issues such as this. This is the time to stress test servers and make sure when you got 1 million people playing on Day 1 that your servers don't get fucked over and to make sure shit doesn't tear at the seams at release. This is some very basic and obvious syncing, glitching, and just outright unprofessional bugs that should not be in the game at this stage. If they fix them all by release? Yeah sure, great, good job Bioware. However, it does not bode well if these kinds of things are still (relatively) common this close to release.
Also, you just essentially said "I don't care if the game is bad at release, I have faith in Bioware that they will release patches to fix the game!" Relying on day 1, 2, or 3 patches to fix the game and make it to a level that it should have been at release only hurts a company and a release as major as this. And Bioware's recent track record is not that great, either, unfortunately =/
And before someone jumps at my throat, I am not here to bash this game. I am providing in-game videos of these bugs in hopes of the community, and furthermore Bioware become aware of the state that some of the stuff in this game is STILL in. Some people have this fantasy that the word "Beta" means "Unfinished." No, Alpha and Pre-Alpha is the assembly. Beta is the paint job and polishing.
You do beta tests when you feel software is fully functional and are looking for bugs which cause annoyance. I haven't had time to watch the video, but as long as the game is playable, they're fine. Plus, who's to say many of these bugs weren't created or exacerbated by the open beta itself?
Either way, I don't think you even have solid ground to criticize and are just trying to create a ruckus.
I agree with this.
