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On July 14 2007 03:32 rpf wrote:
I want to share my builds with you guys, and I want to know what you think.
Sniper:
4 tangos/2 circlets/2 gauntlets
finish bracers/bos
alacrity
claymore
lothar's
(Where should I go from here?)
Drow:
Same as above. :/
Clinkz:
Same as above, but I go for mbk instead
Razor/Gorgon
I have trouble here because of chain lightning being spammable, and not having regen items is a bitch.
So, I'm stuck between:
a. 4 tangos/work on 2 bracers
or
b. basilius/4 tangos (should I go headdress after this to even out the regen?)
After that, though, I go:
boots
mael
bot
mjoll
Thoughts?
In all honesty I will let you know ahead of time that some heroes are just never going to be great at games because the only time they really shine is situational. For example gorgon's only real str is her purge and the one hero that she destroys naturally is Naix. She can farm but there's so many more heroes who can outfarm her by threefold at least and are much more useful. And as you probably know nobody uses naix seriously...
A bit of advice: Don't ever lock yourself into an item build other than your core items and your first two bracers. I seem to notice [ and you said earlier ] you like to have basilius and headdress. There is no need for this. There's also no reason to try and cover up everything your hero is missing with items I.E buying a ring of regen cuz your hero has no natural regen skills.
Remember: Items are there to amplify your heroes abilities! And sometimes this does require covering up something your hero is missing contrary to what I just said. But consider this:
Sven's most important item in a competitive game is BKB. But why? He has a stun, he has an armor aura, he can cleave, he even does monster damage. If Sven gets disabled somehow you're potentially missing out on a huge godstrength cleave and his stun that can disable other people.
You'd think that because all he's actually missing is attack speed you'd get a hyperstone asap but you have to understand unlike the hyperstone the BKB helps his entire skillset and amplifies him greatly as a team asset.
Even items like midas are simply there to amplify your hero's abilities later on! Some heroes simply need to farm for the item which will amplify them.
That's how I think when I choose items.
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I don't think when I buy items. I'm like HOW CAN I CRUSH THOSE BASTARDS ASAP
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I guess I just have to learn the items and the heroes. :/ I get the whole buying items to amplify your heroes abilities thing, it's just that some heroes, like sniper and drow, seem to get raped unless they stay with their entire team, which is why I always go Lothar's as quick as I can. It's next to impossible to gank me that way, unless they have a gem or rupture me or something.
And what does the bkb's avatar do?
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On July 14 2007 11:09 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
I don't think when I buy items. I'm like HOW CAN I CRUSH THOSE BASTARDS ASAP
quoted for truth
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lothar's is such a shitty item for its cost. the enemy puts down a ward for 100 gold and totally nulls your 7 second windwalk. you only need to be in the sight range of the sentry for less than 1 second for the enemy to see the direction you're going in, and you're owned. just go for damage and partner with a disabler or don't do anything stupid -__-;
On July 14 2007 11:09 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
I don't think when I buy items. I'm like HOW CAN I CRUSH THOSE BASTARDS ASAP
qft~!
edit: avatar: magic immunity -- same as naix's ult
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thedeadhaji
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On July 14 2007 11:09 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
I don't think when I buy items. I'm like HOW CAN I CRUSH THOSE BASTARDS ASAP
sounds like a kotl feed plan to me 
(oh wait they banned feeding right?)
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Lothar is 9 second windwalk.
The problems you're experiencing with sniper and drow are not uncommon. It's the game's way of teaching you how to anticipate ganks and how to watch the minimap every 5 seconds or so.
When I play a weak hero like clinkz [ even though he has ww ] drow, sniper, visage [ early ] etc I play in a more aware state of my map positioning. Don't forget that neutral creeping is your friend. And I don't mean using scattershot and drow's ulti [ which you shouldn't get until 10-11 anyway ] to farm but still getting headshot+range and silence+frost so when you do get in team battles you won't be useless. Basically it may sound like I'm telling you to play like a pussy but a sniper in the hands of any good player will take a few shots run in and out of the woods harassing and then teammates will usually come and they assassinate for the kill. That's just the way he is played.
1v1 he out last-hits and just abuses his range. If he runs away you chase [ but don't get baited ] and finish with assassinate. But you can't put all your concentration in this otherwise you get ganked.
See what I mean?
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yeah feeding is banned
although in pubs u can do it!
which last night me and 3 friends did. we played 4vs5. so we picked THD/KOTL/SF and sven.
After some basic items all we did was feed sven sven was equipped with HOT and Rapier VERY fast
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who calls it feeding?!
pooling ftw~
btw anyone ever finished someone's rapier by giving them the last item {sacred/clay/demon} and killing them to take it? :d
that would be utterly sexy ;o~~~
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On July 14 2007 18:31 paper wrote:
who calls it feeding?!
pooling ftw~
btw anyone ever finished someone's rapier by giving them the last item {sacred/clay/demon} and killing them to take it? :d
that would be utterly sexy ;o~~~
yeah, my friend would do that do another friend which just started playing, he didnt even know what happened haha i felt so bad for him
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I just had a killer techies!, Guinsoo, HOT, MKB, BOT, Skadi, Linken. Roar!
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United States2705 Posts
Strafe, you and I should play sometime.
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I was 22-1 btw
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United States2705 Posts
Techies are a bitch.
Magnataur/Razor/Lich I own with, though. :D
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On July 14 2007 21:28 rpf wrote:
Techies are a bitch.
Magnataur/Razor/Lich I own with, though. :D
the last sentence kinda put u right at where you belong.....
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hahaha battle techies ftw ;]
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well i frequently ask on this forum for a game, but nobody ever replies!
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Come to op tl-west, but you have to bring some buddies in order to inhouse. Host = US listchecker, so response time should be playable at least.
I think I saw you on BW last time but probably afk.
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