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rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
July 11 2007 08:31 GMT
#41
I really don't like going branches. I see how it's more cost effective, but lately I've loved going dual bracer/band/talisman depending on my hero, as I can have them all game, whereas with branches I have to sell them one by one to get other items.

Is it just me or are stats much more important than regen?

Oh, and what is the default regen rate for HP/MP? 1/sec for each?
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
July 11 2007 08:42 GMT
#42
Having both is useful, but regeneration will allow you to stay on lane longer. In the beginning regeneration is much more useful while late game having enough health to stay alive is important.
^-^
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
July 11 2007 13:17 GMT
#43
yeah scattershot for pubs is fine, most people get lazy to lasthit/deny on pubs anyways
but you definately need the headshot for any serious games, it comes so handy you have no idea

you see sk burrowstrike somewhere immediately focus on him and laugh as his attempt to ulti is interrupted. same with heroes like pugna, CM, etc etc. Use it to stop heroes from using BoT to get away. and most obviously, this makes last hitting cake as you'll have more "error room" to estimate when to hit.

i never get mjollnir either, not that i think it sucks, but i dunno. it just doesn't fit me o_o

On July 11 2007 11:32 Equinox_kr wrote:
Dual Bracers is basic; if you're having problems staying alive, get more if you need to. I played a game with Viper and to keep myself from dying before I farmed the necessary items for MKB I got 5 Bracers and Boots -_-;;


no offense, 5 bracers is stupid in any situation imo
might as well just buy a vitality booster and keep that and upgrade to heart later if you need. saves room and you save money cuz you wont be selling all those bracers

the most bracers i've ever gotten on a hero was 3. anymore than that i feel like im wasting money that could be better spent or saved to use on core items
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BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
July 11 2007 13:20 GMT
#44
i have a question about silencer though. i never really used him before, i did in a few pubs cuz i ended up randoming him

what's the item build and skill build for competitive play? is dagger viable on him? cuz i dont know from the few pubs ive played it worked well, without guinsoo early game i couldnt really chase anyone so dagger let me get a lotta kills i wouldn't have been able to get without
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
July 11 2007 13:34 GMT
#45
On July 11 2007 22:20 BlueRoyaL wrote:
i have a question about silencer though. i never really used him before, i did in a few pubs cuz i ended up randoming him

what's the item build and skill build for competitive play? is dagger viable on him? cuz i dont know from the few pubs ive played it worked well, without guinsoo early game i couldnt really chase anyone so dagger let me get a lotta kills i wouldn't have been able to get without


if you can buy a dagger, just save a bit more for a euls ;p
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rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
July 11 2007 14:56 GMT
#46
About the Mjollnir, it does suck unless you're using Razor. Try taking on a melee enemy hero with Mjoll's shield on you, with your ult and Radiance going to work, with you sitting there proc'ing chain lightning while casting your own, with frenzy up.

GFG.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
July 11 2007 15:43 GMT
#47
On July 11 2007 22:20 BlueRoyaL wrote:
i have a question about silencer though. i never really used him before, i did in a few pubs cuz i ended up randoming him

what's the item build and skill build for competitive play? is dagger viable on him? cuz i dont know from the few pubs ive played it worked well, without guinsoo early game i couldnt really chase anyone so dagger let me get a lotta kills i wouldn't have been able to get without

well, as silencer i would say(this is just based on my experience as silencer) max glaive early. you can do other skills as you wish..but harassing early with glaive is crazy;s dagger? eh i would say that isn't a very good item for silencer....you're not really meant to be chasing people down, and if you want to kill before they run..get bot/guinsoo. by time you have enough for dagger you could just use it to get bot instead.
@QxGDarkCell ._.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
July 11 2007 16:03 GMT
#48
if you wanna be art, stick a manta style or blink dagger on anyone~
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ToT)BrAiN(
Profile Joined March 2003
Austria899 Posts
July 11 2007 17:32 GMT
#49
On July 12 2007 00:43 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2007 22:20 BlueRoyaL wrote:
i have a question about silencer though. i never really used him before, i did in a few pubs cuz i ended up randoming him

what's the item build and skill build for competitive play? is dagger viable on him? cuz i dont know from the few pubs ive played it worked well, without guinsoo early game i couldnt really chase anyone so dagger let me get a lotta kills i wouldn't have been able to get without

well, as silencer i would say(this is just based on my experience as silencer) max glaive early. you can do other skills as you wish..but harassing early with glaive is crazy;s dagger? eh i would say that isn't a very good item for silencer....you're not really meant to be chasing people down, and if you want to kill before they run..get bot/guinsoo. by time you have enough for dagger you could just use it to get bot instead.


ive been playing silencer alot, hes one of my favourite heroes
skills:
glaives+stats+ulti till lvl 11
then last word, then stats again

items:
2 nulls
midas
bot
sheepstick
hot

in that order

and make sure (if its not pub, dont do it in pub games) to share with every1 so they can use ur ulti if they get ganged
even if u play with vent, the 1 sec vent delay is too long for using ur ulti by urself
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
July 11 2007 18:47 GMT
#50
When do you get BoS? You say you get BoT after midas, but I don't know if you're running around without any speed that whole time or what.

On razor, my favorite hero, I usually go:

2 bands (or maybe RoB, depends on my mood)
BoS
Mael
BoT or treads
Mjoll or Radiance
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
ToT)BrAiN(
Profile Joined March 2003
Austria899 Posts
July 11 2007 22:25 GMT
#51
depends on how well i farm, if i farm good its midas before bos, if not i get the ms before
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
July 12 2007 00:36 GMT
#52
I need some help:

What build should I go with as sniper, beastmaster, sven, or the naga archer (forgot the name)?
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-12 00:51:55
July 12 2007 00:51 GMT
#53
Sniper - 2x bracer midas boots travels styg/mjollnir [ styg if you're doing poorly ] vanguard/heart, butterfly

BM - 2x bracer boots basilius necrobook travels finish necrobook ----> vanguard/radiance/heart/cuirass

Sven - 3 ways [ bottle, arcane, basilius ] if basilius go for all out push save armor level points until your wagon comes then turn on basilius armor and get armor aura. Bottle for ganking, arcane for hammer spam. 2x bracer cuirass/heart

Gorgon - If you go stats lightning [ as you should ] 2x bracer work radiance into skadi. If you got split shot mana shield/ just get skadi I guess but that build is no good.
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
July 12 2007 01:02 GMT
#54
Thanks Ack.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
July 12 2007 01:15 GMT
#55
I disagree with sven/gorgon and sniper
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
July 12 2007 01:39 GMT
#56
On July 12 2007 10:15 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
I disagree with sven/gorgon and sniper


can you tell us the better builds for them then please?

btw, ack or strafe do you guys have any CW replays where you were playing serious that you wouldnt mind uploading? there's some stuff i'd like to learn ;p
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ToT)BrAiN(
Profile Joined March 2003
Austria899 Posts
July 12 2007 01:48 GMT
#57
i go bkb with sven, 2 bracers before

then hot or satanic
{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
July 12 2007 01:56 GMT
#58
sniper i just get boots, some 1 or 2 health pots and then MKB, bot. Then you can get whatever u need, HP or more dmg ie Hot or buriza/butterfly.

gorgon I play different from anyone else. I get Lightning/stat/lightning/stat/lightning/purge/lightning/shield max then stats. I never make split shot.
So in order to sustain the huge amount of mana for gorgon I get Basilius first, then boots, headress, 2 null talisman, some dmg item like crystalys or if you suck at last hitting and are lazy get maelstrom, then i get linkens. there you can make buriza/mjollner and butterfly dmg whatever. last items really dont matter anyway;o

Sven I do what brain does;p
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
July 12 2007 16:53 GMT
#59
Okay, I need some more help.

1. Why do people always seem to grab a pair of bracers/bands/talismans? Is there a specific reason for grabbing two? Why not one?

2. When should I go bracers/bands/talismans? Whne should I go for basilius/headdress?

3. Why do people seem to only go basilius and omit health regen? Maybe it's just my OCD that makes me want to get basilius/headdress together.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
ToT)BrAiN(
Profile Joined March 2003
Austria899 Posts
July 12 2007 17:08 GMT
#60
On July 13 2007 01:53 rpf wrote:
Okay, I need some more help.

1. Why do people always seem to grab a pair of bracers/bands/talismans? Is there a specific reason for grabbing two? Why not one?

2. When should I go bracers/bands/talismans? Whne should I go for basilius/headdress?

3. Why do people seem to only go basilius and omit health regen? Maybe it's just my OCD that makes me want to get basilius/headdress together.


1: no, theres not
if u think u got enough mana to do all the spells you wanna do//have enough mana regen, take 0 nulls
if u think u got enough hp to survive everything the enemy throws at you, get 0 bracer

totally depends on the game and the opponents, there are games where i get 0 bracers with a hero cause i get away from anything easily, cause the other team sucks, and then in another game with the same hero, i suddenly get 2 bracers

2: i think since the start of arcane ring, ive never made a single basilus anymore, arcane is much more expensive but much better for you AND your team

i only get headress when i wanna get a meka, if not get some tangos, no need to do headress, just heals your creeps and you are standing near an enemy tower all the time due to that

3: watch dota reps from some pro teams (SK,MyM,VP,TeG,sP), u will not see any1 geting basil
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