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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

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Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
February 07 2020 21:03 GMT
#81
You seem fairly convinced they do RMT boosts, but I'm not really sure why. I mean is it not inevitable that they would be exposed doing that at some point. It's almost not even worth it considering all the sponsorships they get, along with their twitch careers going so well. If they get caught it's literally game over for the entire guild.
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-07 23:18:44
February 07 2020 21:15 GMT
#82
It's not a conspiracy. Limit were banned for 6 months during legion for rmt boosts, because they made a mistake and leaked it on stream.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/6fwgqi/limit_members_are_banned/
Ill go out on a limb and say they havent stopped, just are more careful not to make it public.

There was also a leak about Method's(i think it was them?) pay out structure google docs which outlined their members shares in real money from boosting. Though i cant find anything about that anymore.

Also a lot of the then top streamers like fragnance, drjay, gingi were advertising for blazingboost on their streams.
Again, this was all during legion, i havent kept up with WoW since, but i doubt things have changed for them.

Edit: But on another topic, i just watched one of my old videos from mists of pandaria, and damn did old shadow look sick, with the black wings and greyish fade instead of the vibrant purple now :/ Also prenerf haunted memento was so nice with the shadow look. Made me a bit nostalgic for that.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-08 11:08:29
February 08 2020 11:07 GMT
#83
On February 08 2020 06:03 TheEmulator wrote:
You seem fairly convinced they do RMT boosts, but I'm not really sure why. I mean is it not inevitable that they would be exposed doing that at some point. It's almost not even worth it considering all the sponsorships they get, along with their twitch careers going so well. If they get caught it's literally game over for the entire guild.


Both of them were caught doing it in Legion in multiple ways so it's hardly a stretch. It wasn't even against Twitch rules in Legion, i'm not sure about now.

If they get caught it's literally game over for the entire guild.


I thought so but almost nobody really cares
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 08 2020 14:05 GMT
#84
Method take world 2nd. So that was fun, Limit win and lots of stuff to change going into Shadowlands. Lets hope Blizzard change a few things so guilds dont have to spend $40,000 on items to help achieve killing end game raid content!

Pieces or a Chinese guild for world third is the question.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 08 2020 14:36 GMT
#85
On February 08 2020 23:05 Pandemona wrote:
Method take world 2nd. So that was fun, Limit win and lots of stuff to change going into Shadowlands. Lets hope Blizzard change a few things so guilds dont have to spend $40,000 on items to help achieve killing end game raid content!

Pieces or a Chinese guild for world third is the question.

Completely agreed, also please have all regions start at the same time.

As for the next guild, probably not Alpha at least. This morning they were at like 70% so that's very far away from a kill.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
February 08 2020 14:50 GMT
#86
On February 08 2020 23:36 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2020 23:05 Pandemona wrote:
Method take world 2nd. So that was fun, Limit win and lots of stuff to change going into Shadowlands. Lets hope Blizzard change a few things so guilds dont have to spend $40,000 on items to help achieve killing end game raid content!

Pieces or a Chinese guild for world third is the question.

Completely agreed, also please have all regions start at the same time.

As for the next guild, probably not Alpha at least. This morning they were at like 70% so that's very far away from a kill.


Im surprised Excorsus is competing, didnt they want to stop tryharding at the end of legion? I remember an announcement about that, they were being burned out by all the necessary preparation and hc splits etc.

Im not sure how blizzard can effictively prevent that without affecting regular players though. Maybe add a timer during which recently bought/acquired items cant be used after a server transer, so that one guild like limit or method cant buy out the whole region worth of boes and transfer them to their main realm. That timer would have to be longer than one whole ID though, because hc starts a week earlier AND it takes more than one mythic id nowadays to kill endboss. At that point you make it cumbersome for regular players to server transfer though.
As for split runs, theres no way that i can think of at all. No matter what they do they fuck up people who play their alts normally.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 08 2020 14:50 GMT
#87
Ahh so Alpha are a bit behind, i wonder what happened to AFKR btw, the Koran guild, they did awesome last tier, but are struggling this tier my Korean overlords slacking! (currently 10/12 19th place)
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-08 16:37:46
February 08 2020 16:37 GMT
#88
With the damage check being as tight as it is it is very possible no one else will get a kill until next week (though the essence rank 3 change to revered could help). I doubt any other guild spent hundreds of millions on BoEs for that extra damage.
Never Knows Best.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
February 08 2020 18:10 GMT
#89
On February 08 2020 20:07 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2020 06:03 TheEmulator wrote:
You seem fairly convinced they do RMT boosts, but I'm not really sure why. I mean is it not inevitable that they would be exposed doing that at some point. It's almost not even worth it considering all the sponsorships they get, along with their twitch careers going so well. If they get caught it's literally game over for the entire guild.


Both of them were caught doing it in Legion in multiple ways so it's hardly a stretch. It wasn't even against Twitch rules in Legion, i'm not sure about now.

Show nested quote +
If they get caught it's literally game over for the entire guild.


I thought so but almost nobody really cares

The only way they could make money during Legion was with RMT afaik. Things are completely different now in terms of what their org provides, what their streams provide, and the fact that they can get literally anything they need in game from fans these days. They could still be doing RMT, but the only evidence provided so far is "well they did it in Legion". I personally can't see certain players like Shakib joining when the cost of getting caught is greater than the reward.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 13 2020 19:08 GMT
#90
There are no plans to have mythic raids open simultaneously between NA and EU. They don't want the raid opening at bad times or having to delay opening, and most of the race comes down to learning and conquering the fight first.


They really are silly, how is starting the raid at midday PST and 7pm EU worse than making people have to be awake on reset day at 8am to start getting the edge on everyone else....
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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-14 04:01:50
February 14 2020 04:01 GMT
#91
On February 14 2020 04:08 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
There are no plans to have mythic raids open simultaneously between NA and EU. They don't want the raid opening at bad times or having to delay opening, and most of the race comes down to learning and conquering the fight first.


They really are silly, how is starting the raid at midday PST and 7pm EU worse than making people have to be awake on reset day at 8am to start getting the edge on everyone else....

Did you watch the entire interview? Ion wasn't referring to bad times for world first raiders, he meant that having a reset time like you suggest would be bad for everyone who isn't in Limit/Method. Imagine being an EU guild that raids from 6-10 or so and having the raid reset at 7PM on Tuesday or whatever every single week.
rip
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 14 2020 18:52 GMT
#92
Why would it matter that the raid resets on Tuesday at 7pm if u raid 6-10 ? That one reset day you either raid the hour later or that becomes a day u dont raid on.

He doesn't even have anything to fall back on because on Classic the raids were released for everyone at the same time and that was true race for all even if it was bugged for one of the better guilds who lost world first because of it haha.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-15 02:58:49
February 15 2020 02:56 GMT
#93
I don't see an issue with it personally. You could probably even dodge prime raid time in all regions
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
February 15 2020 05:58 GMT
#94
On February 15 2020 03:52 Pandemona wrote:
Why would it matter that the raid resets on Tuesday at 7pm if u raid 6-10 ? That one reset day you either raid the hour later or that becomes a day u dont raid on.

He doesn't even have anything to fall back on because on Classic the raids were released for everyone at the same time and that was true race for all even if it was bugged for one of the better guilds who lost world first because of it haha.

Classic releasing at the same time is different because the RWF there is way less of a thing, the raids are incredibly easy and get cleared in under an hour, which is exactly the kind of scenario mentioned as being valid for a simultaneous release. In modern WoW something like that is seen as a huge mistake.

Also, it would have to be every reset being like that because otherwise things are still uneven when Limit gets their reset 16 hours before Method does.
rip
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 15 2020 14:18 GMT
#95
Yeah i understand what you are saying but what if you change the times a bit then, the reset could be 9am PST on a Wednesday and that makes it 5pm EU time, but surely that is better than it being 24 hours difference basically and it being never a true race when NA win. Even though this time it clearly was a Limit being ahead all the time there is always that well.... just bit sad they can't do it
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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-15 17:27:41
February 15 2020 17:24 GMT
#96
Eh, it sucks for the competitors but it's mostly forum trolls who really make a big deal of it. There's a clip of Cayna on Method explaining how the 16 hour advantage basically doesn't exist due to various factors Limit runs into that are fixed by the time Method gets there.

At the same time, just switching reset days so EU gets an 8 hour "lead" would probably make it much more fair and that's something that could be done at the next expansion launch. That way an extended maintenance like we saw this tier would make the unfairness pretty negligible, at least between Europe and NA/OC

But I imagine that NA servers are done first because it's when blizzard has the most staff available
rip
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 18:23:18
February 16 2020 18:22 GMT
#97
Naowh back to Method. I understand his reasoning, but it’s a bit unfortunate

I remember Max saying it was extremely hard to find someone he could trust enough to take over his spot as a tank.
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Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
February 22 2020 03:35 GMT
#98
If you're not already in a LARGE social group of players in real life or have a stable long term guild this game is lonely and boring. Just a collection game if you're not socializing...
Support your esport!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
August 04 2020 21:42 GMT
#99
Boosting community that handled billions of gold (and alledgedly RMT'd a lot of it out of the top) just got dumpstered, ban warnings for anyone that continues to associate with them https://old.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/comments/i3b0g8/blizzard_takes_action_against_realm_money_trading/?sort=top

Maybe blizz is getting serious about handling the in-game economy now.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18859 Posts
August 04 2020 21:44 GMT
#100
Now now, Cyro, we know that can’t be true
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