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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

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If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-06 14:58:18
February 06 2020 14:57 GMT
#61
Am I crazy or is it totally obvious but just unspoken that Method's comms must be full of some racist/sexist/awful shit? With Limit leading the whole time and having their comms on, they can't claim any competitive disadvantage from broadcasting their comms. Their streams would be a lot more interesting if they had comms on, so for business reasons they'd have them on if they could. There must be some reason that they can't have them on and that seems like the obvious one -- that their players are used to being able to say some awful things on comms and they don't want it to mess with their image or get them banned from Twitch.
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-06 17:05:44
February 06 2020 16:59 GMT
#62
For one, they still have Josh in their roster who is permabanned on twitch and disallowed from appearing on streams, though im sure it would be fine if hes not the focus of the stream but limited communication to the ingame happenings.
And secondly, they have Josh still in their roster, so that is telling enough about the climate of the guild. Deepshades and Fleks are also pretty toxic human beings.
Id also like to add that europeans in general are not as tight on the lips like americans. Most dont give a damn about being socially "just" so to say. Especially the eastern ones. Just look at the controversial ban of s1mple, one of, if not the, best cs players currently who got banned on twitch multiple times for saying one of the most common russians slurs and threatened to abandon twitch because of that.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-06 17:49:36
February 06 2020 17:29 GMT
#63
On February 06 2020 23:57 NonY wrote:
Am I crazy or is it totally obvious but just unspoken that Method's comms must be full of some racist/sexist/awful shit? With Limit leading the whole time and having their comms on, they can't claim any competitive disadvantage from broadcasting their comms. Their streams would be a lot more interesting if they had comms on, so for business reasons they'd have them on if they could. There must be some reason that they can't have them on and that seems like the obvious one -- that their players are used to being able to say some awful things on comms and they don't want it to mess with their image or get them banned from Twitch.


Absolutely. They're infamous for being awful human beings and a dozen different members use language like that all of the time, even sometimes on 100% public social media. I don't follow them around but i've seen threads quite recently where e.g. one of their members got called out for ableism only for a handful of method players to come and publically insult the person calling out the public hateful speech.

They don't get held to account for it by the playerbase or by Blizzard but they know that Twitch will smash them for it, so they daren't go anywhere near.

Last expansion some people leaked internal communications which showed basically the whole guild conspiring to sell boosts for real money - whole officer structure and a lot of the core. There was actually an argument about how the money would be split so it went into some detail about how they were operating.

---

Limit was just as bad but they seem to have cleaned up their act more recently. I think it was three times in Legion they got crippled in a race because of being banned for exploits lol
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
February 06 2020 17:52 GMT
#64
They were banned for 6 months for rmt boosting. Safe to say they didnt stop rmt boosting, just dont do it as publicly anymore. But a lot of the more prominent streamers (mostly method) had ads for rmt sites running on their twitch streams. There isnt really a conspiracy at this point. If those sites are can sell mythic raid boosts, who do you think does these? Surely it's not some shitty rank 100 guild who has 9/10 or some unknown guild who can somehow hide their progress.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 06 2020 17:53 GMT
#65
On February 06 2020 23:57 NonY wrote:
Am I crazy or is it totally obvious but just unspoken that Method's comms must be full of some racist/sexist/awful shit? With Limit leading the whole time and having their comms on, they can't claim any competitive disadvantage from broadcasting their comms. Their streams would be a lot more interesting if they had comms on, so for business reasons they'd have them on if they could. There must be some reason that they can't have them on and that seems like the obvious one -- that their players are used to being able to say some awful things on comms and they don't want it to mess with their image or get them banned from Twitch.

Doubt it's full of racist/sexist shit, but surely full of awful shit that could get them banned. It's cool that Limit seems to behave well enough, however I also understand that Method doesn't wanna do it.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28085 Posts
February 06 2020 18:25 GMT
#66
Sco has even specifically said they would probably get banned if they streamed their comms. Also from what Naowh said a couple of weeks ago, Method has a fairly hostile environment in comparison to Limit.

Since Limit has started streaming their comms I don't think I've watched Method a single time. It's just so much more fun to watch Limit in my opinion.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18822 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-06 18:35:14
February 06 2020 18:34 GMT
#67
As someone who has followed WoW shit since Vanilla, the difference between Limit and Method is basically the same difference between people I have enjoyed playing with and those I have not. Method pretty neatly aligns with basically all of the toxic shitbags I’ve met playing WoW over the years.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-06 18:47:33
February 06 2020 18:46 GMT
#68
Maximum is doing some crazy viewer numbers now

Wonder if it's a surge because of the kill being close, or if there's a decent amount of people who jumped from the method camp after realizing hearing the comms is more fun.
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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
February 06 2020 18:46 GMT
#69
On February 07 2020 01:59 Warri wrote:
For one, they still have Josh in their roster who is permabanned on twitch and disallowed from appearing on streams, though im sure it would be fine if hes not the focus of the stream but limited communication to the ingame happenings..

You are correct that it's fine if he's not the focus of the stream, Method has allegedly stated as much
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21596 Posts
February 06 2020 18:52 GMT
#70
On February 07 2020 03:46 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Maximum is doing some crazy viewer numbers now

Wonder if it's a surge because of the kill being close, or if there's a decent amount of people who jumped from the method camp after realizing hearing the comms is more fun.
99% because a kill can happen any moment.
People watch the race on their favourite channel when its going on, but no one wants to miss the finish.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28085 Posts
February 06 2020 18:58 GMT
#71
That fucking wipe LOL.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 06 2020 19:00 GMT
#72
Dude that was the kill oh no
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51475 Posts
February 06 2020 21:15 GMT
#73
Limit win easily, lets hope they continue this level of play into the next expansion, so we have even closer and better races.

Lets also hope our friends in Blizzard can help us all out and release t he raid worldwide at the same time! China always gets fucked over by this, they are released 2 days after NA and are still 11/12 and pushing for world 2nd!
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-07 03:48:01
February 06 2020 22:04 GMT
#74
Limit played very well this tier, deserved winners.

Interested to see if Method can still make p2

And yeah global release would be sick

edit: this is part of how you win world first btw, 250 million gold in debt :/

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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
February 07 2020 11:29 GMT
#75
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-07 13:27:07
February 07 2020 13:26 GMT
#76
On February 07 2020 07:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Limit played very well this tier, deserved winners.

Interested to see if Method can still make p2

And yeah global release would be sick

edit: this is part of how you win world first btw, 250 million gold in debt :/

https://twitter.com/maximumwow/status/1225569323990814724


A number like this makes them look even worse, why even make that public. 250m is 3-4 ids worth of boosting tops. Which makes you think where is all the other gold going in the other 20ish weeks between tiers? RMT.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51475 Posts
February 07 2020 19:06 GMT
#77
Yeah this shit needs to stop from blizzard too, wasn't it the same that Method did on Jaina as well they spent something ridiculous like 100million on pieces then?

I hate when blizzard make BOE versions and make luck based stuff, just bring back tier gear and make it a level playing field, the energy spent on thinking up corruption procs or whatever and be focusing on making sure bosses are good or gear looks good.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-07 20:22:27
February 07 2020 20:20 GMT
#78
On February 07 2020 22:26 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2020 07:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Limit played very well this tier, deserved winners.

Interested to see if Method can still make p2

And yeah global release would be sick

edit: this is part of how you win world first btw, 250 million gold in debt :/

https://twitter.com/maximumwow/status/1225569323990814724


A number like this makes them look even worse, why even make that public. 250m is 3-4 ids worth of boosting tops. Which makes you think where is all the other gold going in the other 20ish weeks between tiers? RMT.

Are you sure about those numbers? Seems insane that people would pay that much for boosts. I'm sure the mythic mount will sell for a lot but not like 50 mil surely

afaik Method did 100 mil in debt during Dazar'alor and that was seen as a lot. Now Limit does 2.5 more and you say it's easy.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 07 2020 20:40 GMT
#79
I don't think Method has enough dps to kill it this week, certainly doesn't look like it atm. Wonder if other guilds will be able to do it this week.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-07 20:55:38
February 07 2020 20:53 GMT
#80
I used to do heroic raid boosting in Legion. We were 10-15 people boosting another 10-15, one evening per week from 19-23 only killing the last boss (KJ and later Argus). No items guaranteed, because its personal loot. Even with minimal advertising we made between 500k and 1m per person. That's for absolute nonames like us. That's not counting selling Boe's either. Of course you are a bit more limited with mythic since you can only do it once and can probably only take 2-3 people, but the prices are way higher, of course that's on top of them also possibly doing heroic boosts. With 6 months between tiers they could be making billions. But they arent, because they take real money instead.
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