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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-04 23:49:00
August 04 2020 21:52 GMT
#101
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oRFjFUu9MsTBn-V3BWQbUSCYkMyka5Y1oUOom0v3ZrU/htmlview?pru=AAABc92H9IM*S4wzdIfiHwlXhjN-QMJ1SA#gid=1606689086



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Ex raid leader from Method and current GM of Echo openly admits it after the last leak, wow this turned juicy :D

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If Twitter posts by some of their management straff are correct, the accounts that were banned we holding around 5.6 billion gold across both NA and EU.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
August 04 2020 22:22 GMT
#102
This is why I've always refused to be a part of boosting communities. It's only safe to ever do with guild members.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
August 04 2020 22:45 GMT
#103
On August 05 2020 07:22 TheEmulator wrote:
This is why I've always refused to be a part of boosting communities. It's only safe to ever do with guild members.


I've been told after the fact that guild members & friends lied to me and were actually taking real money for some of the runs that we did, just giving me gold. It's a jungle out there..
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-04 23:02:33
August 04 2020 22:56 GMT
#104
On August 05 2020 07:45 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2020 07:22 TheEmulator wrote:
This is why I've always refused to be a part of boosting communities. It's only safe to ever do with guild members.


I've been told after the fact that guild members & friends lied to me and were actually taking real money for some of the runs that we did, just giving me gold. It's a jungle out there..

Yea I'm sure that happens a lot. I'd mostly be wary with guilds that do a ton of sales or have a specific person/group in charge of finding buyers. It's a lot easier to hide under the table transactions in that case.

I'd say my last guild was most likely not doing RMT because we usually just spammed trade a couple of times right before raid to find potential buyers (we'd do the same with M+ as well), and the people spamming trade would usually just be whoever showed up to raid the earliest. We didn't have a specific person in charge and everything was pretty much out and open on how it was being handled.

BUT you never know tbh. Even though we didn't do a ton of sales and were fairly open in how we found buyers there's still a possibility someone did a few RMTs at one point
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-04 23:56:33
August 04 2020 23:44 GMT
#105
On August 05 2020 06:44 farvacola wrote:
Now now, Cyro, we know that can’t be true


Yeah LOL

On February 08 2020 06:03 TheEmulator wrote:
You seem fairly convinced they do RMT boosts, but I'm not really sure why. I mean is it not inevitable that they would be exposed doing that at some point. It's almost not even worth it considering all the sponsorships they get, along with their twitch careers going so well. If they get caught it's literally game over for the entire guild.


Looking back this is just hilarious because they literally lost all of that. Yeah it was really dumb and had no good reason to happen but it did
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-05 00:01:24
August 04 2020 23:57 GMT
#106
That discussion (and that post) was about Limit, not Method.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20333 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-05 00:02:54
August 04 2020 23:58 GMT
#107
My bad. They're two sides of the same coin really, lots of the same toxicity and RMT drama

was some discussion about both
On February 07 2020 02:29 Cyro wrote:
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On February 06 2020 23:57 NonY wrote:
Am I crazy or is it totally obvious but just unspoken that Method's comms must be full of some racist/sexist/awful shit? With Limit leading the whole time and having their comms on, they can't claim any competitive disadvantage from broadcasting their comms. Their streams would be a lot more interesting if they had comms on, so for business reasons they'd have them on if they could. There must be some reason that they can't have them on and that seems like the obvious one -- that their players are used to being able to say some awful things on comms and they don't want it to mess with their image or get them banned from Twitch.


Absolutely. They're infamous for being awful human beings and a dozen different members use language like that all of the time, even sometimes on 100% public social media. I don't follow them around but i've seen threads quite recently where e.g. one of their members got called out for ableism only for a handful of method players to come and publically insult the person calling out the public hateful speech.

They don't get held to account for it by the playerbase or by Blizzard but they know that Twitch will smash them for it, so they daren't go anywhere near.

Last expansion some people leaked internal communications which showed basically the whole guild conspiring to sell boosts for real money - whole officer structure and a lot of the core. There was actually an argument about how the money would be split so it went into some detail about how they were operating.

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Limit was just as bad but they seem to have cleaned up their act more recently. I think it was three times in Legion they got crippled in a race because of being banned for exploits lol
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-05 07:00:15
August 05 2020 00:04 GMT
#108
On August 05 2020 08:58 Cyro wrote:
My bad. They're two sides of the same coin really, lots of the same toxicity and RMT drama

No problem.

From my POV regarding Limit there's still nothing more than an assumption/conspiracy that they RMT based on other guilds doing it, and that they did it once in Legion. I've already said it's 100% possible they may RMT, but given their current situation I don't think it's as likely as you guys seem to think. Putting their Complexity sponsor and everything else they have on the line is simply just not worth it. Method was in a completely different situation as an org tbh and probably had less to lose.

It's completely possible someone was dumb enough on Limit to RMT, but idk if the guild as a whole would be aware at all. Who knows though, people are stupid.

was some discussion about both

Fair enough. I think I just thought it was about Limit because we were previously discussing their Gallywix debt. Must have missed the Method talk.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 27 2020 18:34 GMT
#109
Release date confirmed; 27th October 2020.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
August 27 2020 18:57 GMT
#110
The new animated short is amazing. There's more coming out later.



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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22421 Posts
August 27 2020 19:29 GMT
#111
earlier then most people expected, 4 weeks of animated shorts, then a month of pre-patch and then SL is my guess
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 28 2020 21:57 GMT
#112
Yeah I was expecting a week or two later than that with Raid after holidays. W/e they are expecting world firsters to end before the holidays and everyone else can take their time. Fine by me.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 28 2020 22:30 GMT
#113
Yeah good point, makes Raid week like 10th December? or at least mythic raid then.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
August 28 2020 22:41 GMT
#114
On August 29 2020 07:30 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah good point, makes Raid week like 10th December? or at least mythic raid then.

https://www.wowhead.com/news=317684/castle-nathria-and-shadowlands-season-1-start-november-10th-castle-nathria-openi

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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18863 Posts
August 28 2020 22:43 GMT
#115
This will be the first expansion since Cata that I don't resub for, is there a reason to change plans?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 29 2020 02:38 GMT
#116
On August 29 2020 07:43 farvacola wrote:
This will be the first expansion since Cata that I don't resub for, is there a reason to change plans?


It looks better than BfA imo, tbh I'd adopt skipping every other expac and trying SL. They'll do good in SL, get complacent, fuck it up in the next expac, have to reearn subs and make a good expac, and then get complacent.again, ad infinitum imo
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-29 02:53:20
August 29 2020 02:53 GMT
#117
SL definitely looks promising, although Blizzard is still showing signs of completely ignoring user feedback which is really disconcerting. I'm just hoping nothing is as bad as Azerite this expansion...

I'll play regardless just because I love raiding/M+, and they usually hit the mark quite well on that at least.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 29 2020 04:08 GMT
#118
On August 29 2020 11:53 TheEmulator wrote:
SL definitely looks promising, although Blizzard is still showing signs of completely ignoring user feedback which is really disconcerting. I'm just hoping nothing is as bad as Azerite this expansion...

I'll play regardless just because I love raiding/M+, and they usually hit the mark quite well on that at least.


I wouldnt say theyve been completely ignoring feedback.

If anything this has been their best crack at taking community feedback into account. Ive been playing the alpha and the beta and following classes im interested in rolling closely. Like basically there was literally no point in trying to test rogue until like a couple of weeks ago. Id be upset if I was anything over a 2 night a week CE type raider.

Some classes obviously are not where they need to be and there are issues but at the very least they are trying to listen if not always as much as people would like. Its a far cry from BFA where they just shipped a shit unfinished product.

Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
August 29 2020 04:14 GMT
#119
Really hinges on how they handle the covenant system. Biggest worry by far.
Never Knows Best.
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
August 29 2020 05:31 GMT
#120
On August 05 2020 09:04 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2020 08:58 Cyro wrote:
My bad. They're two sides of the same coin really, lots of the same toxicity and RMT drama

No problem.

From my POV regarding Limit there's still nothing more than an assumption/conspiracy that they RMT based on other guilds doing it, and that they did it once in Legion. I've already said it's 100% possible they may RMT, but given their current situation I don't think it's as likely as you guys seem to think. Putting their Complexity sponsor and everything else they have on the line is simply just not worth it. Method was in a completely different situation as an org tbh and probably had less to lose.

It's completely possible someone was dumb enough on Limit to RMT, but idk if the guild as a whole would be aware at all. Who knows though, people are stupid.

Show nested quote +
was some discussion about both

Fair enough. I think I just thought it was about Limit because we were previously discussing their Gallywix debt. Must have missed the Method talk.

I watch Limit's GM's stream sometimes and what he's said about it pretty much lines up with what you've said. The Legion ban on their guild took them out of the entire raid tier, which alone was enough that he thinks other guilds should've looked at this and said "damn I don't want that to happen to me." And the Complexity sponsor means they have a better, more stable source of income so it's just not worth it. He also mentioned that if he found out someone was RMTing they'd be out of the guild
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