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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-29 09:08:48
August 29 2020 09:08 GMT
#121
On August 29 2020 13:08 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2020 11:53 TheEmulator wrote:
SL definitely looks promising, although Blizzard is still showing signs of completely ignoring user feedback which is really disconcerting. I'm just hoping nothing is as bad as Azerite this expansion...

I'll play regardless just because I love raiding/M+, and they usually hit the mark quite well on that at least.


I wouldnt say theyve been completely ignoring feedback.

If anything this has been their best crack at taking community feedback into account. Ive been playing the alpha and the beta and following classes im interested in rolling closely. Like basically there was literally no point in trying to test rogue until like a couple of weeks ago. Id be upset if I was anything over a 2 night a week CE type raider.

Some classes obviously are not where they need to be and there are issues but at the very least they are trying to listen if not always as much as people would like. Its a far cry from BFA where they just shipped a shit unfinished product.


I don't really disagree, and I never said that they weren't doing a good job this time around. I only claimed they were "showing signs" of ignoring feedback. The covenant system being a good example of that.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 29 2020 09:20 GMT
#122
The covenant system isnt strictly ignoring feedback in the Not Listening sense, its more in the Fuck You We Wont Budge On This sense, lol.

I really doubt they do anything meaningful to balance it out til like 9.3.

If youre like me though and not interested in being too bleeding edge the expansion as a whole looks really nice, Id love to go back to WoW and not have it feel like fucking 4-5 hours of chores to keep shit going on alts.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 29 2020 10:57 GMT
#123
Oh wow so raid out in 2 weeks on launch damn ok. I thought it would have been 2 weeks into mythic plus activation and then couple of weeks before raid i don't know why.

Going to be hectic week that 3rd week.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-09 09:15:45
September 09 2020 02:42 GMT
#124
One of the guilds i was looking at raiding with (having pugged with some of the dudes before they made a guild and moved to my server) just announced a raiding schedule. They're going to raid 41 hours on week 1 in normal/heroic, raiding every day and all day on the weekend days.

They're still on the last boss Mythic on live, so they can't be in the top 2200 guilds. My mind is just blown right now.

Yeah, given a variety of issues i don't think the game is worth playing *that much*. Even if it were designed around it (which it's not at all), going full-time-job is a lot to ask.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22630 Posts
September 09 2020 09:39 GMT
#125
On September 09 2020 11:42 Cyro wrote:
One of the guilds i was looking at raiding with (having pugged with some of the dudes before they made a guild and moved to my server) just announced a raiding schedule. They're going to raid 41 hours on week 1 in normal/heroic, raiding every day and all day on the weekend days.

They're still on the last boss Mythic on live, so they can't be in the top 2200 guilds. My mind is just blown right now.

Yeah, given a variety of issues i don't think the game is worth playing *that much*. Even if it were designed around it (which it's not at all), going full-time-job is a lot to ask.
There is nothing quite like a mediocre Mythic guild thinking they have to act like the 0.001%.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
September 09 2020 10:00 GMT
#126
If they are still on nzoth after 8-9 months, it will take way more than just raiding more hours to fix their problems. I foresee this guild dying next tier lol.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 09 2020 12:34 GMT
#127
Sounds like a winner. Not sure what I will do. In BFA I mostly just played with a small group and we cleared heroic and like 2-4 mythic bosses through pugging each tier but they are all gone and I am too lazy to find a guild lol.
Never Knows Best.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
September 09 2020 17:04 GMT
#128
It is starting to look like this may be the first WoW expansion I don't play. After BFA I am just having such a hard time believing I'll have a good time. What a tragedy. Anyone got any videos that may change my mind? I feel like I'm mourning.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 09 2020 17:52 GMT
#129
Yeah BFA really has killed peoples motivation and i don't blame them, it has been grind wise for gear the worse by a LONG way, the grinds aren't fun and there is so much of it, crazy and the gameplay from classes on top were mostly dull and lacklustre.

I will play shadowlands with hype and expectations as usual but im sure it will pitter out again.
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Soan
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
New Zealand194 Posts
September 09 2020 20:38 GMT
#130
Yeah, going to be the first expansion in about 15 years that I don't purchase on release, and probably not purchase at all. Been playing FF14 with my partner instead and enjoying it a lot, definitely has some stuff I prefer over WoW.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22630 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-09 20:53:38
September 09 2020 20:53 GMT
#131
Quit after the first tier of BfA because of the grind and if it wasn't for the fact that I can buy Shadowlands with gold (via tokens) that I have plenty of anyway I probably won't try it. As is I'll give it a bit and see if it hooks me.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-10 04:17:16
September 10 2020 04:12 GMT
#132
I'm optimistic about trying some things, but poor balance and design of systems really puts me off doing anything where numbers really matter. I wish they didn't try to reinvent the wheel on core mechanics every major patch, take a while fixing it up and then throwing away the result. I don't want to research this, i don't want to play around timegates etc. Being able to take RP choices without sucking would be great.

"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
September 10 2020 10:43 GMT
#133
https://www.wowhead.com/news=317891/shadowlands-development-update-from-ion-hazzikostas
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 10 2020 18:58 GMT
#134
Ok started reading this and began to rage, ended the article with a sigh of relief that the game might actually be good and they are finally listening. Alt changes and Torghast changes are great and PvP address is welcomed, felt stupid a PvP vendor giving shit gear and for PvE gear clearly gonna be better but they are gonna change that thank god and finally the socket change makes sense too, still random but u can grind them out at end game too.

All in all that was a very good post, i still have no real comment on Convents yet and really don't "care" per se as dataminers and theorycrafters will tell me which one i need to choose anyway xd
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-05 01:50:21
October 05 2020 01:28 GMT
#135
One of the lead shadowlands writers has posted a load of hella racist/sexist/other shit on Twitter which has gotten attention recently. She's claiming that the tweets are photoshopped and she didn't actually post them, but they're literally still up on her main account.

A pic of a quick search that i did confirming that the content actually exists.. i'm not gonna waste an hour of my life compiling this BS. There's much more.
[image loading]

Blizzard forums are removing any mention without a reason. r/wow does not allow "Any post that could be perceived to call out individuals' negative behaviors".

Where the heck are people supposed to discuss or raise attention to these kinds of problems? They've created an environment where criticism of any part of the company, however valid, is extremely difficult.. not good when it's used to protect terrible people like this.

I'd expect that for these kinds of violations, absolute bare minimum the person should be removing all of the content and making a public apology. Anybody who actually regrets posting hateful content wouldn't have any trouble doing so and that's not any kind of lasting consequence so it's erring strongly towards forgiveness. Less than that is just a slap in the face to victims of divisive/hateful language.

Maybe some of the youtubers like Bellular would be open to covering it
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3715 Posts
October 05 2020 02:17 GMT
#136
On October 05 2020 10:28 Cyro wrote:
One of the lead shadowlands writers has posted a load of hella racist/sexist/other shit on Twitter which has gotten attention recently. She's claiming that the tweets are photoshopped and she didn't actually post them, but they're literally still up on her main account.

A pic of a quick search that i did confirming that the content actually exists.. i'm not gonna waste an hour of my life compiling this BS. There's much more.
[image loading]

Blizzard forums are removing any mention without a reason. r/wow does not allow "Any post that could be perceived to call out individuals' negative behaviors".

Where the heck are people supposed to discuss or raise attention to these kinds of problems? They've created an environment where criticism of any part of the company, however valid, is extremely difficult.. not good when it's used to protect terrible people like this.

I'd expect that for these kinds of violations, absolute bare minimum the person should be removing all of the content and making a public apology. Anybody who actually regrets posting hateful content wouldn't have any trouble doing so and that's not any kind of lasting consequence so it's erring strongly towards forgiveness. Less than that is just a slap in the face to victims of divisive/hateful language.

Maybe some of the youtubers like Bellular would be open to covering it

The screenshotted tweets aren't racist or sexist, but to try to explain this to you would be extremely off-topic for this thread. I don't think your post is particularly on-topic for this thread either (but I also don't this kind of men's rights activism type crap belongs on TL in the first place, to be quite honest).
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-05 02:44:36
October 05 2020 02:20 GMT
#137
Yes they are. Why wouldn't they be? They're derogatory comments against an entire group of people for no reason other than them being born a certain way. I've seen this all too often and it's not difficult to recognise.

If your brain doesn't parse sentences in that way, try swapping out one race/gender/religion/whatever for another and it's plain as day as to why it's grossly inappropriate.

Human rights activisim is absolutely not toxic, it's as far away from toxicity as you can get.

Denouncing something as being "not racist" or "not sexist" because it's against a particular racial group or sex is extremely racist/sexist. It's hard to think of a more textbook example.

How about we don't go around making derogatory statements about entire groups of people because of <attribute>, especially those which people can't control? Is that really too much to ask from a public company?

I can't believe that Ion would have signed off on this. I don't even tolerate any of that crap from friends and family. I don't think that anybody should, really, it's not neccesary and the world (or even your little corner of it) would be way better off without it.

---

Asmongold actually made a video!


Somebody in the comments posted this:
[AND silencing / banning people for saying "Racism and Sexism is not ok". I got silenced until 5th october cause I said exactly that. So they endorse racism and sexism if it's against whites and males, clearly.
And it wasn't just the auto-report system, two mods took a look at it: one with terrible spelling and paragraph formatting that made close to no sense, and the other just being extremely cold and dismissive.
So there you go. Female White person got suspended for saying Racism and Sexism isn't ok. GG WP Blizz Activision. GG Wp. I'm out to play other games now that does not hate me.]
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
bloooargh
Profile Joined May 2012
United States28 Posts
October 05 2020 02:47 GMT
#138
Meh. Gamergate was over a long time ago.

Curiously enough, it's been over for about as long as those tweets have been sitting around not getting noticed. Almost as if a woman in the game industry was upset about the behaviour of many white male snowflakes at the time...?

Find something actually harmful to complain about than some old subtweets from a time when there was way worse coming her way than those tame insults.

I'm buying Shadowlands tonight just to make up for the whiner quoted above.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-05 02:52:12
October 05 2020 02:50 GMT
#139
That's completely unrelated to condemnation of racist/sexist posts.

Giving a company extra money because they banned somebody for saying
Racism and Sexism is not ok
is super dumb IMO but you do you
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-05 04:20:09
October 05 2020 04:10 GMT
#140
Whats wrong with complaining about crusty old white men. In the US they account for most of their problems :O.

Most of the shittiness of wow can be attributed to them aswell.

Seems more like your personal sensitivity to the topic is more the issue then the topic itself. But feel free to keep calling people dumb, for not thinking a few caustic + Show Spoiler +
(and granted not my cup of tea)
and poorly worded comments about a class of people that rarely need any sympathy.

We all know what those tweets mean and who they are targeted it. If you cant realize that and still need to get butthurt over it. No one can really help you.
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