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craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
June 27 2011 23:31 GMT
#461
I got a hold of the leaked beta a couple of days ago. This game is definitely a worthy successor to the original. The graphics aren't the best, but I don't mind since I only played the original a couple months ago, and its shitty graphics didn't bother me then either.

I also find it annoying that once you deplete a cell it doesn't regenerate, maybe its a bug? As for weapon ammo not being too plentiful: I think its balanced the way it is. Anyways I'm loving the game so much that I'm considering to go out of my way to buy it.
Hello World!
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
June 28 2011 05:01 GMT
#462
On June 28 2011 08:31 craz3d wrote:
and its shitty graphics didn't bother me then either.


Indeed, I can go back and play it, doesn't bother me, well done on being hardcore

Oh you will buy it, I know that
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
June 28 2011 20:09 GMT
#463
On June 25 2011 04:05 L0thar wrote:

2) No ammo for some weapons. I have sniper rifle, I also have some automatic rifle...and still I have to use the basic pistol all the time because I have no ammo for the rifles! My arms have to cost hundreds of thousands dollars, I fly everywhere in private helicopter, but my boss cannot afford to get me couple of damn bullets! It may seem like a small problem, but consider two things - your inventory space is very limited and you can find some modification for weapons. So I ended with heavily modified rifle which took lots of space in my inventory and which I almost couldn't use because there were no damn bullets. In the end I even dropped the sniper rifle, because it was useless thanks to the lack of ammo. Which is quite disheartening because the silent sniper hacker-killer is one of my favourite way to play DE. And it's not like the game is harder with the pistol, it's good enough to take out the enemy you need to, the lacks of ammo just limit your choice, which is a damn shame in a game which is otherwise filled with various choices.

4) Takedowns. They are cool looking...which is good thing, DE was always cool looking, I mean look at JC Denton, trenchcoat, sun glasses and something which resemble lighsaber the most, what's not cool about that? However they are also too energy heavy and worst of all, the aren't silent. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but they always seems too laud and disturb enemies which one bullet from silenced weapon to the head or one paralyzer shot doesn't. All in all, I used them only on very isolated enemy and only when I got one last energy cell left (because it regenerates anyway).


I agree with most of your points except these two.
I think especially the sniper would be to powerful as the "main" weapon, because you can hide after each kill in this game. I used the sniper for targets which were far away and I still had plenty of ammo at the end of the game. I also think that it's nice that the pistol is the most used weapon.

The takedown where you don't kill the target is pretty silent. Only the one were you kill the target makes a lot of noise.
viletomato
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada277 Posts
July 01 2011 11:38 GMT
#464
Strange,

I ended up finishing the 'demo' with stacked ammo, I was overflowing with pistol, combat rifle and sniper rifle bullets. Too much ammo that I couldn't carry. I was also playing the guns blazing type style. I guess more efficient aiming and more exploring will grant the ammo one desires.

But at the start of the game ammo is pretty rare
Tomatoes, the king of fruits
NormandyBoy
Profile Joined May 2010
France200 Posts
July 01 2011 11:44 GMT
#465
On June 29 2011 05:09 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 04:05 L0thar wrote:

2) No ammo for some weapons. I have sniper rifle, I also have some automatic rifle...and still I have to use the basic pistol all the time because I have no ammo for the rifles! My arms have to cost hundreds of thousands dollars, I fly everywhere in private helicopter, but my boss cannot afford to get me couple of damn bullets! It may seem like a small problem, but consider two things - your inventory space is very limited and you can find some modification for weapons. So I ended with heavily modified rifle which took lots of space in my inventory and which I almost couldn't use because there were no damn bullets. In the end I even dropped the sniper rifle, because it was useless thanks to the lack of ammo. Which is quite disheartening because the silent sniper hacker-killer is one of my favourite way to play DE. And it's not like the game is harder with the pistol, it's good enough to take out the enemy you need to, the lacks of ammo just limit your choice, which is a damn shame in a game which is otherwise filled with various choices.

4) Takedowns. They are cool looking...which is good thing, DE was always cool looking, I mean look at JC Denton, trenchcoat, sun glasses and something which resemble lighsaber the most, what's not cool about that? However they are also too energy heavy and worst of all, the aren't silent. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but they always seems too laud and disturb enemies which one bullet from silenced weapon to the head or one paralyzer shot doesn't. All in all, I used them only on very isolated enemy and only when I got one last energy cell left (because it regenerates anyway).


I agree with most of your points except these two.
I think especially the sniper would be to powerful as the "main" weapon, because you can hide after each kill in this game. I used the sniper for targets which were far away and I still had plenty of ammo at the end of the game. I also think that it's nice that the pistol is the most used weapon.

The takedown where you don't kill the target is pretty silent. Only the one were you kill the target makes a lot of noise.

So is there a point of having the kill takedown ?
I mean, except for appealing to Gears of War's fanboys...
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 02 2011 08:02 GMT
#466
I haven't found a use for the Burst Firing System mod
Does it attach to the Assault Rifle?
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 02 2011 08:16 GMT
#467
On July 01 2011 20:38 viletomato wrote:
Strange,
(text)
. I guess more efficient aiming and more exploring will grant the ammo one desires.



You deserve a friggin medal for phrasing it like that.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 06 2011 07:55 GMT
#468


Good chunk of awesomeness
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Airact
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland366 Posts
July 06 2011 08:14 GMT
#469
On July 01 2011 20:44 NormandyBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 05:09 vdale wrote:
On June 25 2011 04:05 L0thar wrote:

2) No ammo for some weapons. I have sniper rifle, I also have some automatic rifle...and still I have to use the basic pistol all the time because I have no ammo for the rifles! My arms have to cost hundreds of thousands dollars, I fly everywhere in private helicopter, but my boss cannot afford to get me couple of damn bullets! It may seem like a small problem, but consider two things - your inventory space is very limited and you can find some modification for weapons. So I ended with heavily modified rifle which took lots of space in my inventory and which I almost couldn't use because there were no damn bullets. In the end I even dropped the sniper rifle, because it was useless thanks to the lack of ammo. Which is quite disheartening because the silent sniper hacker-killer is one of my favourite way to play DE. And it's not like the game is harder with the pistol, it's good enough to take out the enemy you need to, the lacks of ammo just limit your choice, which is a damn shame in a game which is otherwise filled with various choices.

4) Takedowns. They are cool looking...which is good thing, DE was always cool looking, I mean look at JC Denton, trenchcoat, sun glasses and something which resemble lighsaber the most, what's not cool about that? However they are also too energy heavy and worst of all, the aren't silent. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but they always seems too laud and disturb enemies which one bullet from silenced weapon to the head or one paralyzer shot doesn't. All in all, I used them only on very isolated enemy and only when I got one last energy cell left (because it regenerates anyway).


I agree with most of your points except these two.
I think especially the sniper would be to powerful as the "main" weapon, because you can hide after each kill in this game. I used the sniper for targets which were far away and I still had plenty of ammo at the end of the game. I also think that it's nice that the pistol is the most used weapon.

The takedown where you don't kill the target is pretty silent. Only the one were you kill the target makes a lot of noise.

So is there a point of having the kill takedown ?
I mean, except for appealing to Gears of War's fanboys...

To prevent the takedown targets from waking up during extended periods of extreme camping action.

It would be stupid for them to NOT wake up at some point when they have been neutralized by non-lethal weapons.
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 14 2011 12:32 GMT
#470
So, lot's of new content for Deus Ex in the last few days



And on this thread, you will find 30 minute preview of Heng Sha gameplay

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=118612

It's getting closeee
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Hijungle
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia67 Posts
July 14 2011 13:03 GMT
#471
From what I've read and played it feels more like Deus Ex than Invisible War ever did.

Here's hoping!
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
July 15 2011 08:27 GMT
#472
Aquired the leaked beta after reading a bit in this thread and I like it a lot, will definitely pick this game up. I don't mind the graphics at all, it's not a crysis 1 or 2 but it looks better than tons of recent games.

My issues so far is that the game doesn't reward stealth enough. There are several rooms I played through so far where I could easily sneak by all the enemies without issue but what about the experience? I want augmentations, but I'm not going to get them by sneaking past the guards like a gosu, I'm forced to using non-lethal takedowns and the tranquilizer sniper to take them down just for the XP. I also found some rooms very hard to do that in.. using the gun, I can easily clear the room, but the enemies are too close to eachother to do takedowns and they see when someone is taken down by the rifle, so there's no way to take them down except possibly spamming tranq darts, which is not how I want to play.
dark0dave
Profile Joined November 2010
179 Posts
July 15 2011 08:33 GMT
#473
Hey Invisible war was awesome, lol at the people who say pc-shooters are dead. Just lol.
What is dead may never die. BW forever.
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
July 15 2011 08:34 GMT
#474
On July 15 2011 17:27 Tobberoth wrote:
My issues so far is that the game doesn't reward stealth enough. There are several rooms I played through so far where I could easily sneak by all the enemies without issue but what about the experience? I want augmentations, but I'm not going to get them by sneaking past the guards like a gosu, I'm forced to using non-lethal takedowns and the tranquilizer sniper to take them down just for the XP. I also found some rooms very hard to do that in.. using the gun, I can easily clear the room, but the enemies are too close to eachother to do takedowns and they see when someone is taken down by the rifle, so there's no way to take them down except possibly spamming tranq darts, which is not how I want to play.


You get a significant XP bonus at the end if you remain unseen through the entire level.
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1481 Posts
July 15 2011 08:46 GMT
#475
Ive read a lot about this and saw some videos on the tube. Problem for me is it seems the game is badly balanced on dificulty settings. Id like the dificulty to make the npcs more unpredictable and smarter, rather than kill you faster. On the other hand, everytime i read somoone saying they didnt like something about the game it was followed by a "im gonna buy this", so i guess it has to be quite good.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
NotJack
Profile Joined December 2009
United States737 Posts
July 15 2011 09:41 GMT
#476
The biggest thing I don't like is how it seems that you can be an expert marksman from the first level. You can't have CoD aim and feel threatened at all as much as DX1 no matter how few hits you can take.
TMStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia686 Posts
July 16 2011 05:25 GMT
#477
Just to let you guys know you can pre-order it from greenmangaming for ~$28

http://www.greenmangaming.com/games/rpgs/deus-ex-human-revolution/
Plug-in the code: GETYO-URWAN-DOUT1 at checkout to get the additional discount.

If you feel comfortable with it my referral link is below
http://www.greenmangaming.com/?gmgr=vijegavu
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 16 2011 06:29 GMT
#478
On July 15 2011 18:41 NotJack wrote:
The biggest thing I don't like is how it seems that you can be an expert marksman from the first level. You can't have CoD aim and feel threatened at all as much as DX1 no matter how few hits you can take.


Marksmanship upgrades come in the form of a tighter reticle while moving. The game punishes moving while shooting rather heavily.

Also the graphics for the leak are unoptimized, and incomplete. So the actual game will look substantially better.
twitch.tv/medrea
viletomato
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada277 Posts
July 17 2011 03:31 GMT
#479
After watching the new trailers, I am happy that dynamic shadows are in. The leak didn't have that, at least from what I remember. That is good news because the as Medrea mentioned that means the full game has better graphics.
Tomatoes, the king of fruits
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 18 2011 08:52 GMT
#480
The 4th video in a series by Gamer.nl, this one about Stealth, with commentary from the developers

http://www.gamer.nl/video/113635/behind-2027-combat-approach-in-deus-ex-human-revolution-1
What have I learned? Stun guns can take out cameras

Here's the thread for DXHR forums for the other videos

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=118268

~100 likes till the next Facebook unlock, go like it if you haven't. There are four language pages, you can add 4 likes to the total count. This unlock has a symbol we haven't seen before, brace yourself for amazingness
http://www.deusex.com/facebook
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