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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 27 2017 20:16 GMT
#3401
On June 28 2017 05:14 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2017 05:07 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 28 2017 04:05 Logo wrote:
On June 28 2017 03:49 Terranasaur wrote:
On June 28 2017 03:43 Logo wrote:
On June 28 2017 02:06 dAPhREAk wrote:
on the other side of the coin, i have gotten more coins/day in the last week than i have in the last six months. spoofers keep me out of local gyms, but i can be more strategic about where i take gyms.


Same here, though the system is definitely without flaws.

I think if you had the ability to withdraw a pokemon from a gym (without being able to put one back right away) that could solve a lot of the problems in the unpredictability.


I don't need the ability to withdraw. I just think its bullshit that my coin income is tied to when the other teams decide to knock out my mons.


The cap is kind of critical to the longevity of the gym system though; without it we're back to where we were before when people would just squat in level 10 gyms and the opposing team will rarely feel like sitting there to knock it all the way down then build it all the way back up.

At least now the gym system promotes churn and giving a broader range of people the opportunity to get in a gym. Rather than all the really invested players getting all the coins there's space for less dedicated players to pick up some coins here and there.

yep. system before was awful. system currently has some flaws, but i personally like the cap as i am seeing more people participating in gyms now instead of the top 10 spoofers for the area--although the spoofers are still here unfortunately.


At least now spoofers are occasionally a benefit to you as a regular player by showing up to raids.

I think with just a few more tweaks the gym system will be in pretty good shape, then they just need to work on the combat system. Especially now with raids having moves that cause status effects would be really fun; though the timeout mechanic really limits their use.

we actually have built such an amazing raid group that we dont play with anyone else (always private). its really cool to meet the same people over and over again.

before they do anything, please fix the lag. network error is super effective.....
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
June 27 2017 20:37 GMT
#3402
On June 28 2017 04:05 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2017 03:49 Terranasaur wrote:
On June 28 2017 03:43 Logo wrote:
On June 28 2017 02:06 dAPhREAk wrote:
on the other side of the coin, i have gotten more coins/day in the last week than i have in the last six months. spoofers keep me out of local gyms, but i can be more strategic about where i take gyms.


Same here, though the system is definitely without flaws.

I think if you had the ability to withdraw a pokemon from a gym (without being able to put one back right away) that could solve a lot of the problems in the unpredictability.


I don't need the ability to withdraw. I just think its bullshit that my coin income is tied to when the other teams decide to knock out my mons.


The cap is kind of critical to the longevity of the gym system though; without it we're back to where we were before when people would just squat in level 10 gyms and the opposing team will rarely feel like sitting there to knock it all the way down then build it all the way back up.

At least now the gym system promotes churn and giving a broader range of people the opportunity to get in a gym. Rather than all the really invested players getting all the coins there's space for less dedicated players to pick up some coins here and there.


In my neighborhood, there is less space. We've got 10 gyms down here so we've lost around 40 slots for Pokemon. No new gyms have been added since the update. Its the same names as before in all the gyms, except now there are fewer.

I just think it sucks that the new optimal coin strategy is to collude with a member of another team (or get a second account) and say "I'll flip this gym every morning, you flip it every night".

And the REAL problem here is the shortage of dust. I like the dust incentive for feeding berries, but there just aren't enough gyms/pokemons to get a non trivial amount of dust
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-27 21:55:48
June 27 2017 21:53 GMT
#3403
We lost a lot of space around here too, but it still has been better because people aren't trying to load into 10+ gyms anymore (or at least not once they understand how pointless that is) and so long as people aren't overfeeding pokemon berries there's a low bar for the other teams to take out a gym which creates a window for different people to move back in.

I think the current system is still too dependent on people working wtihin system (not overfeeding pokemon, not flipping enemy gyms *too* fast to discourage the other teams, not loading into too many gyms at once), but it at least favors churn over stagnation.
Logo
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5598 Posts
June 27 2017 21:55 GMT
#3404
I either have my 'mon kicked out in minutes or stuck ad nauseam. Still earning more than before so can't complain.
don't wall off against random
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
June 28 2017 00:06 GMT
#3405
On June 21 2017 08:50 fishjie wrote:
damn lame i had started playing again and gotten some good pokemons like snorlax and so close to a gyrados (less than 40 karps away) and now they are revamping the gym system

oh well


oh man i was so wrong about the new gym system its awesome! i'm actually able to take over gyms now and gain coins! i'll finally be able to ugprade my backpack and pokemon counts.

one thing tho - its almost too easy to solo a gym now, maybe make the motivation loss for losing a battle less powerful. its a double edged sword - OTOH i can take over gyms, OTOH i get booted out fast. but prior to this update it was too tedious to solo a gym
Aezo-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada378 Posts
June 28 2017 00:19 GMT
#3406
New gyms + raids have worked out great for a high level 20 player. I'm in SF so before gyms were packed to level 10 & much too high to attempt to take out.

Now I find I can usually get in on ones, & don't mind taking out opponent gyms occasionally for some badge rewards. I think there's a lot of tuning that can be done, whether it's stardust or coin rewards for attacking etc. but from a starting point the gym system is accessible to a lot more players now.

Also a daily raid so far is pretty fun, & leveling up to solo some t3 raids has a tangible goal for me to strive for. Before I had no motivation to power up attackers & aim for low 30s as I figured high 30s would still beat me in the gym scene.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
June 28 2017 01:22 GMT
#3407
the only raid i tried to solo was magikarp with 1k CP. how tough are the boss fights if you are soloing with your own pokemons? do they one shot you? they seemed to have 10k+ CP
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 28 2017 01:51 GMT
#3408
On June 28 2017 10:22 fishjie wrote:
the only raid i tried to solo was magikarp with 1k CP. how tough are the boss fights if you are soloing with your own pokemons? do they one shot you? they seemed to have 10k+ CP

nothing one shots you unless you have sub-30 mons. if you are high level 35+ you can solo 1/2 easily, and possibly 3. 4s cant be soloed yet. usually need 4/5 (really good players) or more.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
June 28 2017 07:18 GMT
#3409
Level 30 here. I tried a lapras level 3 yesterday. I dodge maybe one special max, yet It killed two of my mons out of the six.
...
I did 20% of it maxhp by the timeout.

I have ok gym attacker, but I'm nowhere near having 6 good pokemons that can counter the same enemy. By level 35 I'll have 3 time as much xp, so more than 3 time as many high level mons, and that'll still be far from the count
I'll have to be on time to raids, hoping to join public team.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 28 2017 13:30 GMT
#3410
I nearly solo'd a 20k jolteon with 6 ground types varying from a 2800 rhyhorn and a 2000 golem. Pretty sure he's a level 3, so if you have decent counters and levels I think most can solo the 1/2 difficulties. I know I've done the crocomaws with a single 2k jolteon with a lot of time to spare.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
June 28 2017 17:54 GMT
#3411
I've solo'd a level 3 Machamp. It was pretty tough. It took me like 4 or 5 tries. I don't recommend trying to solo level 3 raids. Level 2's are easy though.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 28 2017 18:18 GMT
#3412
just did a tranny raid with 18 people organized through group chat. =) someone caught a 100% tranny.
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
June 28 2017 18:35 GMT
#3413
On June 29 2017 03:18 dAPhREAk wrote:
just did a tranny raid with 18 people organized through group chat. =) someone caught a 100% tranny.


I'm not sure that's the best way to shorten "Tyranitar."
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-28 19:17:07
June 28 2017 19:16 GMT
#3414
On June 29 2017 03:35 Rehio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 03:18 dAPhREAk wrote:
just did a tranny raid with 18 people organized through group chat. =) someone caught a 100% tranny.


I'm not sure that's the best way to shorten "Tyranitar."

how about t-tards?
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-28 20:47:42
June 28 2017 20:47 GMT
#3415
A Level 4 Lapras laid waste to a group of 4 of us That thing is tanky as all fucking hell and hits like a massive truck

Edit: What's coin cap per day?
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5598 Posts
June 28 2017 20:48 GMT
#3416
On June 29 2017 05:47 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Edit: What's coin cap per day?

50
don't wall off against random
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
June 28 2017 20:55 GMT
#3417
On June 29 2017 05:48 rotta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 05:47 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Edit: What's coin cap per day?

50

Ok. I can get that every day when my mall closes. Are the coin brought to me when the mon is kicked out or just added one at a time?
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5598 Posts
June 28 2017 21:00 GMT
#3418
On June 29 2017 05:55 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 05:48 rotta wrote:
On June 29 2017 05:47 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Edit: What's coin cap per day?

50

Ok. I can get that every day when my mall closes. Are the coin brought to me when the mon is kicked out or just added one at a time?

When it's kicked out. For me it's either +24h or 5 minutes, rarely anything in between.
don't wall off against random
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
June 28 2017 22:52 GMT
#3419
On June 29 2017 06:00 rotta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 05:55 Orcasgt24 wrote:
On June 29 2017 05:48 rotta wrote:
On June 29 2017 05:47 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Edit: What's coin cap per day?

50

Ok. I can get that every day when my mall closes. Are the coin brought to me when the mon is kicked out or just added one at a time?

When it's kicked out. For me it's either +24h or 5 minutes, rarely anything in between.

Last night I put 3 pokemon in 3 gyms at 3am. Tyranitar just bit the dust now. I woke up two two of them + 50 coins having been kicked out at 11am. I thought that the 50 coins may have just been a coincidence.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 29 2017 03:01 GMT
#3420
On June 29 2017 03:35 Rehio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2017 03:18 dAPhREAk wrote:
just did a tranny raid with 18 people organized through group chat. =) someone caught a 100% tranny.


I'm not sure that's the best way to shorten "Tyranitar."

TTar was the term used back in the day
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