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ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
April 14 2015 20:50 GMT
#9521
Finally got a chance to look at the current PTR notes and damn, rogue stuff looks awesome. Not only do we get small buffs, but all set bonuses for T18 are great.
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
April 14 2015 21:38 GMT
#9522
Wait, i got a little lost. Is this new raid the last raid of the expansion? Or hasn't been said?
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 21:39:16
April 14 2015 21:39 GMT
#9523
Hasn't been said, but without Gul'dan and Grom being mentioned it doesn't seem likely to be the last
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 14 2015 21:41 GMT
#9524
I mean, I could totally see Grommash helping us on Archimonde and sacrificing himself to help us kill him.
And Guldan just being the mythic phase, where at the end we don't kill him and he flees or something.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
April 14 2015 21:42 GMT
#9525
Both Gul'dan and Grom are present from the voice files,
+ Show Spoiler +
Guldan empowers a revived Mannoroth and Grom is held prisoner by the Fel Lord going by the voice files.

And we knew Grom would not actually be a boss fight as per my comment earlier.

This is supposed to be the last raid of the expansion if Blizzard is on track.
Wether they are tho is anyone's guess at this point. I could see a Ruby Sanctum type raid happening if the next expansion takes to long.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18387 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 21:48:35
April 14 2015 21:47 GMT
#9526
So Archimonde is the final boss? How many fucking times does Blizzard want us to kill Archimonde?

WC3: Kill Archimonde with wisps.
TBC: hyjinks with time, have to kill Archimonde! (which, btw, is still the dumbest lore around: the infinite dragonflight was nowhere to be seen in the whole raid).
WoD: haha, ultimate dimension. Have to kill Archimonde... AGAIN.

Oh, and between TBC and WoD: Archimonde should be 1-shottable by a holy paladin by now given the exponential power curve WoW has been on...
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 22:02:31
April 14 2015 22:01 GMT
#9527
This is supposed to be the last raid of the expansion if Blizzard is on track.


I doubt that, why would they release the last raid of the expansion like 6 months after the expansion?

WOD was 8 years after TBC, almost exactly.

They launched with a tier. Next tier in ~6-8 months, the one after that in another ~6-8 months.

That puts you three tiers deep at 12-16 months, then you can release the next expansion at ~24 months.. as always. Earlier is always good.

Oh, and between TBC and WoD: Archimonde should be 1-shottable by a holy paladin by now given the exponential power curve WoW has been on...


The power curve is actually linear through level 90 now. Raid gear has the same stats as quest gear
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
April 14 2015 22:07 GMT
#9528
On April 15 2015 07:01 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
This is supposed to be the last raid of the expansion if Blizzard is on track.


I doubt that, why would they release the last raid of the expansion like 6 months after the expansion?

WOD was 8 years after TBC, almost exactly.

They launched with a tier. Next tier in ~6-8 months, the one after that in another ~6-8 months.

That puts you three tiers deep at 12-16 months, then you can release the next expansion at ~24 months.. as always. Earlier is always good.

Show nested quote +
Oh, and between TBC and WoD: Archimonde should be 1-shottable by a holy paladin by now given the exponential power curve WoW has been on...


The power curve is actually linear through level 90 now. Raid gear has the same stats as quest gear

They 'plan' to have WoD last only a year. It will be over 6 months old when 6.2 comes out so another 6 month tier would leave them on track.
And yes I dont believe they will make it in 1 year either until I see it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2015 22:15 GMT
#9529
On April 15 2015 05:43 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 20:45 Drazerk wrote:
Item - Priest T18 Holy 2P Bonus (New) You have a chance to gain 1% haste when Prayer of Mending bounces.
Item - Priest T18 Holy 4P Bonus (New) You have a chance to gain 1% haste when Prayer of Mending bounces.

Gee thanks Blizzard


As for the whole not last raid thing - Do you really think we'd have an expansion bigging up both guldan / grom and not fight / have interaction with either of them?


It's placeholder, the majority of these changes are placeholder I'd imagine given how nice and round most of the percentages are and the fact that a blue said there's a lot of placeholder shit in there.


Yeah I know but I want to see what cool stuff holy gets
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 22:26:09
April 14 2015 22:25 GMT
#9530

They 'plan' to have WoD last only a year


ahahaha yes i'm sure they PLAN for that
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 14 2015 22:29 GMT
#9531
On April 15 2015 07:25 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +

They 'plan' to have WoD last only a year


ahahaha yes i'm sure they PLAN for that


Remember when they planned for Black Temple to be the last raid of TBC or planned for ICC to be the last raid of WOTLK?

Fun times fun times
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 15 2015 07:53 GMT
#9532
They did plan on shorter expansions, when they were announcing WoD at the Blizzcon they mentioned it. They want to push content out quicker and that means shorter expansions. Also i believe this expansion was a filler one anyway thats why it might be shorter. If all goes to plan in November at Blizzcon they will announce new expansion :o

But like Gors said there might be a filler raid due to Blizzard things :D however they might shove in a boss or two, to guide into the next expansion. But yeah with the legendary ring being finished i can't see there being a raid after the next? Especially considering Tier 18 is coming out too, whens the last time we had a 3 tier expansion? XD
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
April 15 2015 07:58 GMT
#9533
Except if they announce the next expansion at blizzcon it'll be out at best in the summer of 2016.

Oh speaking of the legendary rings, those procs are the dumbest of the dumb.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 08:16:56
April 15 2015 07:58 GMT
#9534
Hmm true Teo, then we will have another 12 month raid xD
Then again....had it before :')

On the rings, they are not final right? Or is the MMO post outdated?
The legendary rings and procs are here! Don't worry, the procs aren't final.



So basically if everyone in the raid has the same legendary ring you get 100% uptime? xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
April 15 2015 10:32 GMT
#9535
On April 15 2015 16:58 Teoita wrote:
Except if they announce the next expansion at blizzcon it'll be out at best in the summer of 2016.

Oh speaking of the legendary rings, those procs are the dumbest of the dumb.

There is no law that says it has to be announced at Blizzcon.

Yes they have always done announcements at Blizzcon but then again they had also released intro cinematic at Blizzcon and they didn't do that for WoD.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
PagePincher
Profile Joined January 2015
205 Posts
April 15 2015 10:45 GMT
#9536
On April 15 2015 07:07 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 07:01 Cyro wrote:
This is supposed to be the last raid of the expansion if Blizzard is on track.


I doubt that, why would they release the last raid of the expansion like 6 months after the expansion?

WOD was 8 years after TBC, almost exactly.

They launched with a tier. Next tier in ~6-8 months, the one after that in another ~6-8 months.

That puts you three tiers deep at 12-16 months, then you can release the next expansion at ~24 months.. as always. Earlier is always good.

Oh, and between TBC and WoD: Archimonde should be 1-shottable by a holy paladin by now given the exponential power curve WoW has been on...


The power curve is actually linear through level 90 now. Raid gear has the same stats as quest gear

They 'plan' to have WoD last only a year. It will be over 6 months old when 6.2 comes out so another 6 month tier would leave them on track.
And yes I dont believe they will make it in 1 year either until I see it.


So basically they are trying to make more money in shorter term, not saying they shouldn't but i am surprised a lot of people still support it.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
April 15 2015 10:47 GMT
#9537
On April 15 2015 19:45 PagePincher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 07:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On April 15 2015 07:01 Cyro wrote:
This is supposed to be the last raid of the expansion if Blizzard is on track.


I doubt that, why would they release the last raid of the expansion like 6 months after the expansion?

WOD was 8 years after TBC, almost exactly.

They launched with a tier. Next tier in ~6-8 months, the one after that in another ~6-8 months.

That puts you three tiers deep at 12-16 months, then you can release the next expansion at ~24 months.. as always. Earlier is always good.

Oh, and between TBC and WoD: Archimonde should be 1-shottable by a holy paladin by now given the exponential power curve WoW has been on...


The power curve is actually linear through level 90 now. Raid gear has the same stats as quest gear

They 'plan' to have WoD last only a year. It will be over 6 months old when 6.2 comes out so another 6 month tier would leave them on track.
And yes I dont believe they will make it in 1 year either until I see it.


So basically they are trying to make more money in shorter term, not saying they shouldn't but i am surprised a lot of people still support it.

I remember a fair few bitching about that very thing when it was announced but I guess most people (rightfully) don't believe Blizzard can actually manage to do a 1y cycle so they don't worry about it yet.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 10:50:52
April 15 2015 10:50 GMT
#9538
On April 15 2015 19:45 PagePincher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 07:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On April 15 2015 07:01 Cyro wrote:
This is supposed to be the last raid of the expansion if Blizzard is on track.


I doubt that, why would they release the last raid of the expansion like 6 months after the expansion?

WOD was 8 years after TBC, almost exactly.

They launched with a tier. Next tier in ~6-8 months, the one after that in another ~6-8 months.

That puts you three tiers deep at 12-16 months, then you can release the next expansion at ~24 months.. as always. Earlier is always good.

Oh, and between TBC and WoD: Archimonde should be 1-shottable by a holy paladin by now given the exponential power curve WoW has been on...


The power curve is actually linear through level 90 now. Raid gear has the same stats as quest gear

They 'plan' to have WoD last only a year. It will be over 6 months old when 6.2 comes out so another 6 month tier would leave them on track.
And yes I dont believe they will make it in 1 year either until I see it.


So basically they are trying to make more money in shorter term, not saying they shouldn't but i am surprised a lot of people still support it.

Whilst what you say is true, they make more money, it is also 100x better for the players. We are not playing the same expansion for 2 years at a time sat at max level waiting for new content every 6 months to then stagnate on x content for 12 months waiting for new expansion.
This way we get WoD style, launch into 4 week wait before raid 1 is released. 8 weeks after that raid 2 is released. Then you get another raid 4 months? probably after that to keep interested and going to then finish off the expansion waiting for new game alot quicker.

I know what your saying is right but the player base doesn't lose out, especially now game time can be bought via gold legally, your only paying $40 or whatever every 12-18 months for an expansion seems pretty cool if it increases level cap the content is as good as WoD was/is.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
April 15 2015 11:02 GMT
#9539
WoD was released in November, 6 months ago. A one year cycle would mean beta would have to start in a few months, but they haven't even announced anything. Two tiers of raids might still happen, but a one year expansion is not going to happen at all
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 15 2015 11:03 GMT
#9540
On April 15 2015 19:50 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 19:45 PagePincher wrote:
On April 15 2015 07:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On April 15 2015 07:01 Cyro wrote:
This is supposed to be the last raid of the expansion if Blizzard is on track.


I doubt that, why would they release the last raid of the expansion like 6 months after the expansion?

WOD was 8 years after TBC, almost exactly.

They launched with a tier. Next tier in ~6-8 months, the one after that in another ~6-8 months.

That puts you three tiers deep at 12-16 months, then you can release the next expansion at ~24 months.. as always. Earlier is always good.

Oh, and between TBC and WoD: Archimonde should be 1-shottable by a holy paladin by now given the exponential power curve WoW has been on...


The power curve is actually linear through level 90 now. Raid gear has the same stats as quest gear

They 'plan' to have WoD last only a year. It will be over 6 months old when 6.2 comes out so another 6 month tier would leave them on track.
And yes I dont believe they will make it in 1 year either until I see it.


So basically they are trying to make more money in shorter term, not saying they shouldn't but i am surprised a lot of people still support it.

Whilst what you say is true, they make more money, it is also 100x better for the players. We are not playing the same expansion for 2 years at a time sat at max level waiting for new content every 6 months to then stagnate on x content for 12 months waiting for new expansion.
This way we get WoD style, launch into 4 week wait before raid 1 is released. 8 weeks after that raid 2 is released. Then you get another raid 4 months? probably after that to keep interested and going to then finish off the expansion waiting for new game alot quicker.

I know what your saying is right but the player base doesn't lose out, especially now game time can be bought via gold legally, your only paying $40 or whatever every 12-18 months for an expansion seems pretty cool if it increases level cap the content is as good as WoD was/is.


Issue is with spending more resources on new expansions current content suffers as it clearly has with WoD which has very little world content compared to MoP / Cata / WOTLK / BC. 6.2 is remedying that hopefully but i'm still worried about this expansion.
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