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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21922 Posts
April 12 2015 17:41 GMT
#9441
On April 13 2015 02:36 Noocta wrote:
I wonder what's the % of heroic raiders that want to do mythic in comparison to the number of raider actually doing mythic.

My guild got 9/10 HM last week, and we're nowhere near the roster for Mythic. Heroic Blackhand is gonna keep us occipied a bit but after that, I hope drama doesn't start to come.

considering 9.8% have killed H Blackhand its a significant number. Half the guilds who have killed Blackhand haven't killed a boss in Mythic despite the early Mythic bosses being arguably easier.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 12 2015 20:04 GMT
#9442
The ridig 20 man limit for mythic when everything else is flex is what is the problem for my guild, wiping on HC blackhand currently. On some days we might just reach the 20 limit and could try mythic, but most nights it's 14-16 people.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21922 Posts
April 12 2015 20:06 GMT
#9443
Mythic being fixed size is non-negotiable tho. They cannot tune it well enough if they have to account for 20 different group sizes.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 22:19:53
April 12 2015 22:13 GMT
#9444
Tertiary stats are actually pretty good in some cases - i've got +~3.5% movespeed from speed on legs alone, but +~8% if i put on a couple of other pieces too. That puts me at like 158% permanently with aspect of the cheetah - i'm collecting the speed gear so i can hopefully toggle the alternate run animation that comes on at ~160-165% or so and looks cool :D

what % is it exactly?

Yea i have +5.53% from two relevant pieces because i lucked out and rolled speed on a pair of 630 legs and 636 boots. My ilvl is 622 (bag) and 616 (equipped, cause i have boots like 70 ilvls lower because i have to wear them with old speed enchant til i find a cloak worth putting 750g +10% movespeed on.. +8% movespeed on boots for free is OP, but ilvl 600 cap)

i'l be improving that in the next day or 2 and i still do fucktons of damage anyway (srsly too much for that gear level) so if anyone wants to do CM tomorrow (13'th) on eu-alliance gimme a pm :D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
April 13 2015 07:10 GMT
#9445
On April 13 2015 05:04 daemir wrote:
The ridig 20 man limit for mythic when everything else is flex is what is the problem for my guild, wiping on HC blackhand currently. On some days we might just reach the 20 limit and could try mythic, but most nights it's 14-16 people.


Just bring some pugs for Blackhand hc, that encounter gets WAY easier the more people you have. If you do it with 30 it's almost lfr style difficulty, while going in with 14 or less is almost impossible.

On April 12 2015 08:01 Cyro wrote:
I did firelands, that patrolling boss wasn't possible until i googled the causes of the 30 second stuns and avoided both of them (if i got hit by either it was guaranteed death with no character control).


Shannox's dog death-stun is broken with a 9k dmg direct hit, so just hit him with your pet when he stuns you and you're done. Doing old raids with Lone Wolf and MM might not be the best idea I had a problem with that boss on my rogue, but I found out I can just put Shadow Reflection on the dog and it will break the stun.

So the tokens finally come to EU on wednesday? Can you stock up on them and then use over time or do they have expiration time?
A dota player and lol player walk into a bar. The dota player says: "lol sucks". Lol player couldn't deny. http://i.imgur.com/FpLeTf1.gif
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
April 13 2015 07:45 GMT
#9446
On April 13 2015 16:10 ViperPL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 05:04 daemir wrote:
The ridig 20 man limit for mythic when everything else is flex is what is the problem for my guild, wiping on HC blackhand currently. On some days we might just reach the 20 limit and could try mythic, but most nights it's 14-16 people.


Just bring some pugs for Blackhand hc, that encounter gets WAY easier the more people you have. If you do it with 30 it's almost lfr style difficulty, while going in with 14 or less is almost impossible.

Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 08:01 Cyro wrote:
I did firelands, that patrolling boss wasn't possible until i googled the causes of the 30 second stuns and avoided both of them (if i got hit by either it was guaranteed death with no character control).


Shannox's dog death-stun is broken with a 9k dmg direct hit, so just hit him with your pet when he stuns you and you're done. Doing old raids with Lone Wolf and MM might not be the best idea I had a problem with that boss on my rogue, but I found out I can just put Shadow Reflection on the dog and it will break the stun.

So the tokens finally come to EU on wednesday? Can you stock up on them and then use over time or do they have expiration time?


25HC shannox is impossible as combat, but the DoT from rupture and/or deadly poison will break the stunlock
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 13 2015 08:24 GMT
#9447
On April 13 2015 02:00 Gorsameth wrote:
Mythic is not top 10% at all lol.
Only 5.6% of raiders have even killed a boss in Mythic Foundry.

Yeah my "special" guild can't even kill 1st boss mythic TT we spent 3 hours wiping on him with more than enough dps to kill him and some. Everyone took a spear minus me and a warlock during the night, was quite hilarious. We have a warlock who likes to whore the metres and doesnt even top. His boss damage is like 8th but finishes 2nd and shit.

Makes me so bored when u wipe to stuff which is really easy. I also hate the way we spent doing that all night and didnt try another boss etc XD
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ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
April 13 2015 08:24 GMT
#9448
On April 13 2015 16:45 Stancel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 16:10 ViperPL wrote:
On April 13 2015 05:04 daemir wrote:
The ridig 20 man limit for mythic when everything else is flex is what is the problem for my guild, wiping on HC blackhand currently. On some days we might just reach the 20 limit and could try mythic, but most nights it's 14-16 people.


Just bring some pugs for Blackhand hc, that encounter gets WAY easier the more people you have. If you do it with 30 it's almost lfr style difficulty, while going in with 14 or less is almost impossible.

On April 12 2015 08:01 Cyro wrote:
I did firelands, that patrolling boss wasn't possible until i googled the causes of the 30 second stuns and avoided both of them (if i got hit by either it was guaranteed death with no character control).


Shannox's dog death-stun is broken with a 9k dmg direct hit, so just hit him with your pet when he stuns you and you're done. Doing old raids with Lone Wolf and MM might not be the best idea I had a problem with that boss on my rogue, but I found out I can just put Shadow Reflection on the dog and it will break the stun.

So the tokens finally come to EU on wednesday? Can you stock up on them and then use over time or do they have expiration time?


25HC shannox is impossible as combat, but the DoT from rupture and/or deadly poison will break the stunlock


Well, I did it as combat with shadow reflection so I guess I did the impossible!
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
April 13 2015 15:32 GMT
#9449
Did 25H Nefarian and Sinestra, didn't realize better gear makes them so much easier.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 17:24:11
April 13 2015 16:35 GMT
#9450
Between the nelf passive (+2%), enchant (+10%) and speed (2 bits of gear) i have 118% movespeed unbuffed and 156% with aspect of the cheetah (with minor glyph to remove it instead of dazing me upon taking damage) damn that mobility. Damn.

I'l try to get speed on more pieces for my CM set. If i can toggle the super-fast-run animation for 24/7 usage i would be soooooo happy :D

Does anyone know if that's at 160, 165 or 170%? I'm pretty sure it happens at 170% or earlier. If it's 160 it'll be easy-ish to hit.. 165 would be challenging. 170 and it's probably too much!
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 13 2015 17:54 GMT
#9451
On April 13 2015 16:45 Stancel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 16:10 ViperPL wrote:
On April 13 2015 05:04 daemir wrote:
The ridig 20 man limit for mythic when everything else is flex is what is the problem for my guild, wiping on HC blackhand currently. On some days we might just reach the 20 limit and could try mythic, but most nights it's 14-16 people.


Just bring some pugs for Blackhand hc, that encounter gets WAY easier the more people you have. If you do it with 30 it's almost lfr style difficulty, while going in with 14 or less is almost impossible.

On April 12 2015 08:01 Cyro wrote:
I did firelands, that patrolling boss wasn't possible until i googled the causes of the 30 second stuns and avoided both of them (if i got hit by either it was guaranteed death with no character control).


Shannox's dog death-stun is broken with a 9k dmg direct hit, so just hit him with your pet when he stuns you and you're done. Doing old raids with Lone Wolf and MM might not be the best idea I had a problem with that boss on my rogue, but I found out I can just put Shadow Reflection on the dog and it will break the stun.

So the tokens finally come to EU on wednesday? Can you stock up on them and then use over time or do they have expiration time?


25HC shannox is impossible as combat, but the DoT from rupture and/or deadly poison will break the stunlock


He didn't seem so hard, I killed him without ever getting stunned, but then again I'm 689 ilvl and blew him the hell up.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 21:57:55
April 13 2015 21:56 GMT
#9452
The amount of apathy towards CM's is physically painful. This is the second time i've spammed trade every 30 seconds for an hour and i've yet to reach a group with more than one other person in it.

Anyone playing EU alliance? I have literally 1 friend on EU-alliance WoW who actually plays at lvl 100
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
April 13 2015 21:58 GMT
#9453
Group finder is probably more useful than trade tbh
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 22:05:28
April 13 2015 22:05 GMT
#9454
Any sucky arena players wanna play with me? The guy I used to play with quit after we lost 3 in a row just now

I'm a resto druid.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 22:08:24
April 13 2015 22:07 GMT
#9455
On April 14 2015 06:58 Teoita wrote:
Group finder is probably more useful than trade tbh


I'm in it. I got one applicant in over an hour and it was a tank who left five minutes later.

On April 14 2015 07:05 Arnstein wrote:
Any sucky arena players wanna play with me? The guy I used to play with quit after we lost 3 in a row just now

I'm a resto druid.


If by play you mean derp into a wall until we're drowning on conquest with questionable rating, i'm up
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21922 Posts
April 13 2015 22:07 GMT
#9456
On April 14 2015 06:56 Cyro wrote:
The amount of apathy towards CM's is physically painful. This is the second time i've spammed trade every 30 seconds for an hour and i've yet to reach a group with more than one other person in it.

Anyone playing EU alliance? I have literally 1 friend on EU-alliance WoW who actually plays at lvl 100

CM's require effort and give bad rewards for the time invested. Unless you want the gold transmogs or the mounts (most people who care already got them) there is no reason to do CMs
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 22:09:49
April 13 2015 22:09 GMT
#9457
On April 14 2015 07:07 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 06:56 Cyro wrote:
The amount of apathy towards CM's is physically painful. This is the second time i've spammed trade every 30 seconds for an hour and i've yet to reach a group with more than one other person in it.

Anyone playing EU alliance? I have literally 1 friend on EU-alliance WoW who actually plays at lvl 100

CM's require effort and give bad rewards for the time invested. Unless you want the gold transmogs or the mounts (most people who care already got them) there is no reason to do CMs


dat 660 gear tho

IDK what to do, i'm 630 without a guild ATM. Getting one, but it might take a day or three. I have literally no content to do as people are seeking ~650 for normal highmaul

..I forgot LRF exists, but fuck my life seriously if that's all there is to do

CM's are at least fun to wipe in a bunch and clear, even if there's no reward.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 22:19:40
April 13 2015 22:19 GMT
#9458
two questions, as i'm interested in getting back into wow.

as i understand it, regular wow game includes vanilla up to mop? or is it up to cata or something and i need to purchase all the expansions inbetween? battle.net site says "levels 1 to 90" so i assume all the past expansions are included in the wow core game purchase.
and then wod purchase on top of that.

second, is there like a official (pvp) server that tl plays on?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
April 13 2015 22:25 GMT
#9459
Right now there is WoW (everything 1-90) and WOD (90-100). The WoW price is basically free, it's like £5 and all of the cost is in WOD
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 13 2015 22:49 GMT
#9460
The issues with CMs are that if you've done them then you know the strats and if you know the strats they just aren't that fun.

Also doesn't help Blizzard patches CMs which means they're basically a joke for anyone who takes speedrunning seriously
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