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On April 10 2015 00:59 Teoita wrote: Fingers crossed for a few months of gametime at hilarious discount, paid for with ingame currency i get just by half arsing their facebook game... I'm honestly surprised the price isn't 50k or something stupidly high. I see people talking about how their garrisons provide thousands a day, farming old raids get x thousand, i had this impression everyone was sitting on a million gold and toss it around like candy to save irl money
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On April 11 2015 18:35 lestye wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 00:59 Teoita wrote: Fingers crossed for a few months of gametime at hilarious discount, paid for with ingame currency i get just by half arsing their facebook game... I'm honestly surprised the price isn't 50k or something stupidly high. I see people talking about how their garrisons provide thousands a day, farming old raids get x thousand, i had this impression everyone was sitting on a million gold and toss it around like candy to save irl money
The top ~2-10% is 
you don't hear about the majority
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I saw someone mention another point that might help explain the 'low' price of a token. Most of the rich players are older and have jobs, 15 a month is pretty much inconsequential to them so they don't bother buying the tokens to save the money.
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I am broke, but I have like 250k Gold, can I use that to re-activate my account or does that only work if you want to extend an account that already has a subscription? Is the token system even online in EU yet?
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You can reactive your account with tokens when they come to EU.
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Yeah, but how can I get one? Can I use the website to buy one via ingame-gold?
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On April 11 2015 21:04 SixStrings wrote: Yeah, but how can I get one? Can I use the website to buy one via ingame-gold? have you tried google? Cause the answer is right there.
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On April 11 2015 21:04 SixStrings wrote: Yeah, but how can I get one? Can I use the website to buy one via ingame-gold?
As far as I know, you'll be able to buy them off the log in screen, either via a link to battle.net or something.
Being able to reactivate accounts via in game gold was one of Blizzard's main motives for the service in the first place. It's a way to get older players to come back and get hooked again.
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I don't know... I made over 70k on my only character since WoD launched, only solo cataclysm raids and I don't even have a 700/700 crafting profession, making money isn't hard.
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On April 11 2015 21:22 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 21:04 SixStrings wrote: Yeah, but how can I get one? Can I use the website to buy one via ingame-gold? As far as I know, you'll be able to buy them off the log in screen, either via a link to battle.net or something. Being able to reactivate accounts via in game gold was one of Blizzard's main motives for the service in the first place. It's a way to get older players to come back and get hooked again.
Thanks, that's good to know.
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On April 11 2015 22:17 digmouse wrote: I don't know... I made over 70k on my only character since WoD launched, only solo cataclysm raids and I don't even have a 700/700 crafting profession, making money isn't hard.
I thought cata raids would actually be good money, it wasn't really in my experience. I went to firelands 25 with i600 gear, took like >30 mins to kill everything and came out 2k richer.
Maybe with i660 and adding DS into the mix it's good gold - does heroic setting change much for gold reward?
Having a 700/700 crafting profession doesn't actually really help you that much. You can craft everything from 1/700 skill.
Also, 70k is pennies considering you'd have spent 100k already for subs since WOD launched at this point - and you have raid upkeep costs as well as new gear. It's still like 50k for a solid piece.
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On April 11 2015 23:11 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 22:17 digmouse wrote: I don't know... I made over 70k on my only character since WoD launched, only solo cataclysm raids and I don't even have a 700/700 crafting profession, making money isn't hard. I thought cata raids would actually be good money, it wasn't really in my experience. I went to firelands 25 with i600 gear, took like >30 mins to kill everything and came out 2k richer. Maybe with i660 and adding DS into the mix it's good gold - does heroic setting change much for gold reward? Having a 700/700 crafting profession doesn't actually really help you that much. You can craft everything from 1/700 skill. Also, 70k is pennies considering you'd have spent 100k already for subs since WOD launched at this point - and you have raid upkeep costs as well as new gear. It's still like 50k for a solid piece.
Heroic changes to gold per boss from 50g to 250g its actually pretty huge
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Dunno, my raid upkeep costs are 0. My garrisons provide all the herbs I need to make my flasks, guild bank handles repairs. I have enchanter building to keep myself stocked with mats for that, I have my own JC alt. It's like..there aren't any ways to sensible spend money.
It's not about the total amount what X amount of months would have costed, it's about how much income you have within a month and for me, with 3 garrisons, of which 1 is pretty much maxed out (~20 guys 675ilvl, 8 treasure hunters), 1 is halfway there and one is starting to build the treasure hunter base, I've mde more than a month's worth of token gold within a week, although I did also do a lot of instance dailies, because I love 5mans.
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If you do old cata raids, be sure to do them on 25 heroic. The difference is huge.
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My garrisons provide all the herbs I need to make my flasks
I have enchanter building to keep myself stocked
I have my own JC alt
Your raid upkeep costs are thousands of gold of opportunity cost, you're just looking at it in a flawed way.
Thanks for info on 25h - i just found that with i600 gear, a few bosses were wrecking me as MM hunter going in blind. With doubled DPS (like i630-650) it would be so much easier
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On April 12 2015 07:50 Cyro wrote:Your raid upkeep costs are thousands of gold of opportunity cost, you're just looking at it in a flawed way. Thanks for info on 25h - i just found that with i600 gear, a few bosses were wrecking me as MM hunter going in blind. With doubled DPS (like i630-650) it would be so much easier as a hunter it should be pretty easy lol only bosses i had any trouble with were Nefarian and Sinestra, even Spine of DW is pretty easy if you go in with a game plan
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On April 12 2015 07:58 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 07:50 Cyro wrote:My garrisons provide all the herbs I need to make my flasks I have enchanter building to keep myself stocked I have my own JC alt Your raid upkeep costs are thousands of gold of opportunity cost, you're just looking at it in a flawed way. Thanks for info on 25h - i just found that with i600 gear, a few bosses were wrecking me as MM hunter going in blind. With doubled DPS (like i630-650) it would be so much easier as a hunter it should be pretty easy lol only bosses i had any trouble with were Nefarian and Sinestra, even Spine of DW is pretty easy if you go in with a game plan
I did firelands, that patrolling boss wasn't possible until i googled the causes of the 30 second stuns and avoided both of them (if i got hit by either it was guaranteed death with no character control). Some of the incoming damage was pretty heavy with no source of healing and i kept pulling threat from pet. There's a lot of stuff that i could probably do with a proper spec, a lot was faceroll but other stuff wasn't. I died like 5 times from various silly things, even stunlock mechanic on one of the trash near blind dragon boss destroyed me :D
i600 vs 670 is really a joke though. You do like 2.5x as much damage and have more health, etc.
The tokens are stabilizing pretty well at ~22.5k
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On April 12 2015 07:50 Cyro wrote:Your raid upkeep costs are thousands of gold of opportunity cost, you're just looking at it in a flawed way.
The time spent to do these things on my own compared to turning those materials into gold through AH is so much less. I don't have to follow the market, don't need to do several rounds of undercutting to get the profit out of it and then use the money to hunt the lower priced deal to get it for me cheaper. I'm saving time and effort and I'm still gaining gold in the process. Even if I had to buy everything from the AH, the cost per week of raiding wouldn't be even near thousands of gold at the moment. And I would still somehow need to get that gold.
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Sinestra is probably un-soloable for hunters due to no way to deal with Wreck, Nefarian too, can't tank the skeletons for long enough, the rest of the cataclysm raids are easy deal at least on 10 Heroic, some 25 Heroic bosses needs some ilvl to move through (Baleroc requires you to kill him before the first dark blade, twin dragon in BoT requires you to kill them before 2nd Blackout pops as the 260k damage is not squished).
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On April 12 2015 13:21 digmouse wrote: Sinestra is probably un-soloable for hunters due to no way to deal with Wreck, Nefarian too, can't tank the skeletons for long enough, the rest of the cataclysm raids are easy deal at least on 10 Heroic, some 25 Heroic bosses needs some ilvl to move through (Baleroc requires you to kill him before the first dark blade, twin dragon in BoT requires you to kill them before 2nd Blackout pops as the 260k damage is not squished). erm... you can stand in melee range with lone wolf to not get Wreck As a priest i've never noticed any issues but its kinda silly when I heal for 8 million whenever I apply a Devouring Plague
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