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Sinestra is probably un-soloable for hunters due to no way to deal with Wreck, Nefarian too
I actually killed Nefarian without issues, i think it was on 25 normal though.
twin dragon in BoT requires you to kill them before 2nd Blackout pops as the 260k damage is not squished
I survived that too, but not on 25h difficulty. It was close.
I guess i can just leave that dungeon or do it on 25N. What do i need to know for dragon soul 25h? I've never done DS before, but i did the two deathwing encounters at the very end of MOP for gear (quite silly, since the quest gear from leveling has the same stats as heroic deathwing stuff pretty much  )
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What is there to do in WoW these days? I resubbed, did Blackhand LFR(which is the only part I haven't done yet), and now I don't know what to do of the new content, if any.
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On April 12 2015 18:20 Arnstein wrote:
What is there to do in WoW these days? I resubbed, did Blackhand LFR(which is the only part I haven't done yet), and now I don't know what to do of the new content, if any.
Blackhand heroic 
challenge modes
gear up mainspec/offspec and wait for the patch 6.2 raid after that's done
LFR is the mode for people who play the game for 2-5 hours a week and have eventually managed to crawl to max level, but have no interest in playing with friends or learning how to play. If you have more time/skill than that, of course it will bore you. It's an MMO, go hit the 5-20 man content and crank up the difficulty til it hurts
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I don't really have time to raid, so I only do LFR. Guess I'll just play some PvP then.
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On April 12 2015 22:03 Arnstein wrote:
I don't really have time to raid, so I only do LFR. Guess I'll just play some PvP then.
I've personally seen quite a few guilds raiding on my server for low hours. They do 6 hours a week on various time schedules (without even fixed attendance, it's flex mode of course), usually over two days. If you can't make that then i hope you like pvp
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On April 12 2015 14:54 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +Sinestra is probably un-soloable for hunters due to no way to deal with Wreck, Nefarian too I actually killed Nefarian without issues, i think it was on 25 normal though. Show nested quote +twin dragon in BoT requires you to kill them before 2nd Blackout pops as the 260k damage is not squished I survived that too, but not on 25h difficulty. It was close. I guess i can just leave that dungeon or do it on 25N. What do i need to know for dragon soul 25h? I've never done DS before, but i did the two deathwing encounters at the very end of MOP for gear (quite silly, since the quest gear from leveling has the same stats as heroic deathwing stuff pretty much )
25 Normal blackout hits for like 50k, totally manageable, while on 25H it hits for a full 260k so if you are under-geared you are done for, strat is pop deterrence for the first blackout, and kill them before the 2nd explodes as you won't have enough HP left to survive the 2nd one, also DO NOT SPEC SPIRIT BOND! The healing will cause Blackout to explode early.
Nefarian 25N is ezpz, 25H is currently unkillable due to skeletons.
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nvm, one sec
edit: alright, just did 25H nefarian as a 653 BM hunter. posthaste/exhilaration/stampede/barrage, popped stampede for onyxia while kiting the skeletons that spawned, almost died at phase 2 but exhilaration+kill shot healed me back to 80%
went back to dpsing nefarian, after the skeletons spawned I popped lust and alternated between barraging/beastcleaving the adds while still spamming KC on nefarian, kept moving with posthaste buff+binding shot stun and got the kill
imo the most important part is to keep moving in a circle away from the skeletons, so if you're MM - sucks to be you
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On April 12 2015 23:28 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 14:54 Cyro wrote:Sinestra is probably un-soloable for hunters due to no way to deal with Wreck, Nefarian too I actually killed Nefarian without issues, i think it was on 25 normal though. twin dragon in BoT requires you to kill them before 2nd Blackout pops as the 260k damage is not squished I survived that too, but not on 25h difficulty. It was close. I guess i can just leave that dungeon or do it on 25N. What do i need to know for dragon soul 25h? I've never done DS before, but i did the two deathwing encounters at the very end of MOP for gear (quite silly, since the quest gear from leveling has the same stats as heroic deathwing stuff pretty much ) 25 Normal blackout hits for like 50k, totally manageable, while on 25H it hits for a full 260k so if you are under-geared you are done for, strat is pop deterrence for the first blackout, and kill them before the 2nd explodes as you won't have enough HP left to survive the 2nd one, also DO NOT SPEC SPIRIT BOND! The healing will cause Blackout to explode early. Nefarian 25N is ezpz, 25H is currently unkillable due to skeletons.
I 2manned 25h, glad warrior + frost DK @ 630ilvl one person tanks onyxia, and the other drags skeletons around.
as soon as nef lands you pop all cooldowns, defensive ones too and try to kill nefarian before they run out and you die
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On April 12 2015 22:47 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 22:03 Arnstein wrote:
I don't really have time to raid, so I only do LFR. Guess I'll just play some PvP then. I've personally seen quite a few guilds raiding on my server for low hours. They do 6 hours a week on various time schedules (without even fixed attendance, it's flex mode of course), usually over two days. If you can't make that then i hope you like pvp
Which server is this? Are five mans interesting these days?
Am I right in saying that these days you have:
Raid finder
Flex raid (10-25 players) normal or heroic
Mythic (20 man only)
Who are the levels aimed at? Is mythic much harder than heroic or something?
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On April 13 2015 00:43 Immersion_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 22:47 Cyro wrote:On April 12 2015 22:03 Arnstein wrote:
I don't really have time to raid, so I only do LFR. Guess I'll just play some PvP then. I've personally seen quite a few guilds raiding on my server for low hours. They do 6 hours a week on various time schedules (without even fixed attendance, it's flex mode of course), usually over two days. If you can't make that then i hope you like pvp Which server is this? Are five mans interesting these days? Am I right in saying that these days you have: Raid finder Flex raid (10-25 players) normal or heroic Mythic (20 man only) Who are the levels aimed at? Is mythic much harder than heroic or something?
Mythic isn't really harder its just more of a pain in the ass to organize raids for due to the 20 man restriction. Basically once you no longer need gear from one level you move up to the next and the difficulty is basically the same
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CM's are cool, heroic 5man is faceroll. Mythic is harder than hc yes, although as Drazerk said a good part of that is the organization.
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So normal flex mode is pretty simple and heroic is pretty tough (roughly)?
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On April 12 2015 23:28 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 14:54 Cyro wrote:Sinestra is probably un-soloable for hunters due to no way to deal with Wreck, Nefarian too I actually killed Nefarian without issues, i think it was on 25 normal though. twin dragon in BoT requires you to kill them before 2nd Blackout pops as the 260k damage is not squished I survived that too, but not on 25h difficulty. It was close. I guess i can just leave that dungeon or do it on 25N. What do i need to know for dragon soul 25h? I've never done DS before, but i did the two deathwing encounters at the very end of MOP for gear (quite silly, since the quest gear from leveling has the same stats as heroic deathwing stuff pretty much ) 25 Normal blackout hits for like 50k, totally manageable, while on 25H it hits for a full 260k so if you are under-geared you are done for, strat is pop deterrence for the first blackout, and kill them before the 2nd explodes as you won't have enough HP left to survive the 2nd one, also DO NOT SPEC SPIRIT BOND! The healing will cause Blackout to explode early. Nefarian 25N is ezpz, 25H is currently unkillable due to skeletons.
25H Nef is totally doable, you might just lack the gear.
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On April 13 2015 00:49 Immersion_ wrote:
So normal flex mode is pretty simple and heroic is pretty tough (roughly)?
Heroic isn't the hardest thing, but it's not faceroll either. Normal is fairly simple yeah.
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On April 13 2015 00:46 Teoita wrote:
CM's are cool, heroic 5man is faceroll. Mythic is harder than hc yes, although as Drazerk said a good part of that is the organization.
To be fair CMs are pretty faceroll once you know the tactics its just learning the tactics
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WoD Raid Teirs Explained!
LFR - WoW's "No Toon left Behind" Act. Everyone gets to see all the bosses, content, and feel like a badass as they stand in Fire, Pew-Pewing the boss, wondering why this Healer isn't fighting that Add face on like a Man. This is literally Hand Holding Raiding. Perfect for ppl who don't have time to do Real raiding.
Normal - Raiding with Training wheels. Mechanics actually matter now, but are still forgiving. Learning begins here and can actually be carried forward into other difficulties. Real raiding starts as groups actually have to organize themselves and can't totally faceroll. Still easy to get into thanks to Premade Finder.
Heroic - The Challenge begins (and ends if <20ppl). Mechanics are no longer forgiving, bosses and adds pack some real punches. From here on out you need an organized raid team who actually knows what they are doing. There is still room to overgear content but strategy and coordination are important now.
Mythic - The Diehard Challenge. Due to the rigid 20 person requirement to do this teir of Raiding (all others are Flex) this is the hardest tier to get into, and a real accomplishment to complete. This is the difficulty for the top 10%, those who want to be pushed, who enjoy the Min/Max game. Raiding takes real planning and New Mechanics not seen in previous difficulties are often added to fights to spice things up (though usually just 1-2 new things per boss).
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On April 13 2015 00:43 Immersion_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 22:47 Cyro wrote:On April 12 2015 22:03 Arnstein wrote:
I don't really have time to raid, so I only do LFR. Guess I'll just play some PvP then. I've personally seen quite a few guilds raiding on my server for low hours. They do 6 hours a week on various time schedules (without even fixed attendance, it's flex mode of course), usually over two days. If you can't make that then i hope you like pvp Which server is this? Are five mans interesting these days? Am I right in saying that these days you have: Raid finder Flex raid (10-25 players) normal or heroic Mythic (20 man only) Who are the levels aimed at? Is mythic much harder than heroic or something?
LFR = half of your raid being worse than the majority of WoW players (and that's saying something) and the other half being afk
Normal and Heroic = similar, both flex. Heroic is tuned more strictly - but on top of that, expects you to walk in with 20 ilvls higher gear. If you're a regular player, you'll be seeking to clear one of these. I think every guild i saw even advertising 6 hours a week raiding had normal cleared - when you overgear normal, it's really quite easy - but you can't overgear Heroic in the same way during the content tier.
Mythic = hardest difficulty, locked 20 man. Bit of a pain in the ass, but if you want the best of the best this is where it's at.
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5 man heroic is hard - but again you can overgear it to the extent that it's faceroll. When everybody is in i610, the heroics are actually a threat but nowadays when you hit random heroic, every second DPS is wearing full heroic tier 17 and doing 2-4x as much damage as they're supposed to.
5 man CM is interesting IMO. Gear is locked to 630 so you can't overgear. It's tuned harder than heroic, too. You'll need friends to go for the good medals, probably for silver and gold.*
*Yes, i know you can pug them. I did Tribute to Insanity (10 man TOTC heroic with 0 wipes) in a full PUG with complete strangers and no voice in one try - that doesn't mean it's traditionally puggable :D
This is the difficulty for the top 10%
You mean the top ~2-5%
the top 10% of forum-goers, perhaps.
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Mythic is not top 10% at all lol.
Only 5.6% of raiders have even killed a boss in Mythic Foundry.
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Yea and there's a HUGE difference between picking off the easy mythic bosses and going for serious mythic progression
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I wonder what's the % of heroic raiders that want to do mythic in comparison to the number of raider actually doing mythic.
My guild got 9/10 HM last week, and we're nowhere near the roster for Mythic. Heroic Blackhand is gonna keep us occipied a bit but after that, I hope drama doesn't start to come.
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