EPT[wow] Warlords of Draenor - Page 337
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Cyro
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21888 Posts
On December 15 2014 08:17 TerranHwaiting wrote: The last HM Boss is a pain in the Ass. Phase 4 is crazy. He is way harder than the first bosses on Heroic :o lots of guilds are getting 5/7 HC before they get 7/7 normal. Shows how big the gap is. | ||
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
In the real world, out of ~24 mines triggered in our last wipes, 14 were blown up by the same 2 people according to logs -.- | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20318 Posts
On December 15 2014 08:31 Gorsameth wrote: lots of guilds are getting 5/7 HC before they get 7/7 normal. Shows how big the gap is. Yea, only butcher, last boss and maybe ko'ragh is harder than last boss on normal. We have NO issue with mines (if people did that they would be kicked lol) and dont detonate them any more outside of uncommon fails, but the second transition phase is very tight | ||
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21888 Posts
On December 15 2014 08:37 Teoita wrote: Mines SHOULD be easily avoided. On fucking paper. It's just another void zone, right? In the real world, out of ~24 mines triggered in our last wipes, 14 were blown up by the same 2 people according to logs -.- Same 2 people keep dying to HC twins flames >< often on the very first ones. | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
Magically they can actually dodge the twins fire. It's just when the void zones can kill the rest of the raid along with you that they fail it seems. /rant off | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20318 Posts
On December 15 2014 08:44 Gorsameth wrote: Same 2 people keep dying to HC twins flames >< often on the very first ones. Just take out recount and count damage done by flames. It should be zero on everyone, but some people get 50k or even 500k+ from them 18 wipes on H Mar'gok tonight, but butcher wipes take like 3.5 mins average, while these are going to 8, 12 minutes before failure I mean just really, give a condition like don't fail X, 3 chances, remove if fail - we do that for members and pugs alike ATM, and nobody consistently fails the same thing when people are here for 5 (maybe 8) hours to kill the boss they won't really sit around while one person hits 7 void zones (or even 1 every couple of pulls, cause it will wipe you if you do it at the wrong time if you're not comfortable on the fight) gotta decide what kind of guild you are, i don't particularly like the "kick everyone who repetitively fails even when asked to fix/helped etc" mentality, but it's the only one that i can play with for 5 or 8 hours in one raid | ||
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Just got through the second transition phase, but never truly recovered - second mage didn't actually die, the pulsy add spawned on the boss etc and we collapsed from aoe damage 7 hour raid :D that makes.. 20 this week? | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On December 15 2014 08:44 Gorsameth wrote: Same 2 people keep dying to HC twins flames >< often on the very first ones. I have seen some situations in which the flames just corner you and you have to take one stack, but you can usually get away with just one stack. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20318 Posts
On December 15 2014 11:52 deth2munkies wrote: I have seen some situations in which the flames just corner you and you have to take one stack, but you can usually get away with just one stack. I've never been in that situation (might depend on how you position the boss) but even if so, there are abilities like leap, blink, anti magic shell, disengage and i think other class equivalents to entirely prevent damage. Since it's a huge DOT, you can also remove it in several ways with stuff like Ice Block. I just pop AMS and walk through the fire to increase DPS with ~5-6 second complete immunity on a 45 second cooldown (because it prevents magical debuffs from being applied, which means you take NO damage, instead of just the usual 75% reduction) | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On December 15 2014 12:04 Cyro wrote: I've never been in that situation (might depend on how you position the boss) but even if so, there are abilities like leap, blink, anti magic shell, disengage and i think other class equivalents to entirely prevent damage. Since it's a huge DOT, you can also remove it in several ways with stuff like Ice Block. I just pop AMS and walk through the fire to increase DPS with ~5-6 second complete immunity on a 45 second cooldown (because it prevents magical debuffs from being applied, which means you take NO damage, instead of just the usual 75% reduction) I actually use Demonic Circle on the bosses' feet so I can get in for shout. I used it once to try to avoid fire, and sure enough circled directly into the middle of a wave, pre-running right along the length. Yeah I died that pull. | ||
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nimbim
Germany985 Posts
On December 15 2014 12:04 Cyro wrote: I've never been in that situation (might depend on how you position the boss) but even if so, there are abilities like leap, blink, anti magic shell, disengage and i think other class equivalents to entirely prevent damage. Since it's a huge DOT, you can also remove it in several ways with stuff like Ice Block. I just pop AMS and walk through the fire to increase DPS with ~5-6 second complete immunity on a 45 second cooldown (because it prevents magical debuffs from being applied, which means you take NO damage, instead of just the usual 75% reduction) Well, I play Shaman and we don't have any instant travel gimmicks :D I think 1 stack is quite understandable. Sometimes the fire seems to stand still so you can't tell where to go quickly or I'm busy healing and notice too late that I'm about to be trapped between 2-3 fire strands and the wall. | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On December 15 2014 12:04 Cyro wrote: I've never been in that situation (might depend on how you position the boss) but even if so, there are abilities like leap, blink, anti magic shell, disengage and i think other class equivalents to entirely prevent damage. Since it's a huge DOT, you can also remove it in several ways with stuff like Ice Block. I just pop AMS and walk through the fire to increase DPS with ~5-6 second complete immunity on a 45 second cooldown (because it prevents magical debuffs from being applied, which means you take NO damage, instead of just the usual 75% reduction) Heroic Leap is so good for that. I'm usually tanking Phemos so when I need to pull him out for WW it comes in clutch | ||
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ViperPL
Poland1775 Posts
Mines on Imperator are tough for people to avoid, one of the officers in my guild keeps triggering them cause he's retarded enough to use flying serpent kick to move around without looking. But he's a pretty stupid guy in general, one of those "screw fight mechanics, they lower my dps" type of people, but I doubt he'll be kicked since he's friends with our guild master. On the positive side, I finally got a follower mission that gives me epic 645 item, first ever mission like that, even though I've got tons of epic, high ilvl followers. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On December 15 2014 15:56 ViperPL wrote: Cloak of shadows and shadowstep make avoiding a lot of stuff pretty trivial, rogues are really good at surviving in raids so I've got that going for me. Mines on Imperator are tough for people to avoid, one of the officers in my guild keeps triggering them cause he's retarded enough to use flying serpent kick to move around without looking. But he's a pretty stupid guy in general, one of those "screw fight mechanics, they lower my dps" type of people, but I doubt he'll be kicked since he's friends with our guild master. On the positive side, I finally got a follower mission that gives me epic 645 item, first ever mission like that, even though I've got tons of epic, high ilvl followers. Not to mention feint, 50% less AoE and can glyph to make it last 2sec longer and add a flat 30% dmg reduction on top of the 1/2 AoE. I mean Tectus and Imperator are joke fights for rogues if you have improved feint. | ||
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