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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22492 Posts
December 14 2014 17:05 GMT
#6701
if you wanne see 'pure' dps numbers look at Butcher.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
December 14 2014 17:20 GMT
#6702
Yeah my point was, if Serejai was talking about that shaman's dps he's way way wrong. There's shit tons of adds on that fight, so enh just so happens to get insane padding since they constantly Fire Nova
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
December 14 2014 17:30 GMT
#6703
On December 15 2014 02:20 Teoita wrote:
Yeah my point was, if Serejai was talking about that shaman's dps he's way way wrong. There's shit tons of adds on that fight, so enh just so happens to get insane padding since they constantly Fire Nova


Yep

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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-14 18:37:19
December 14 2014 18:30 GMT
#6704
On December 15 2014 02:05 Gorsameth wrote:
if you wanne see 'pure' dps numbers look at Butcher.

Really best to look at butcher, twin ogron and tectus to look at DPS across different numbers of targets and amount of movement. Looking at just butcher will be misleading since some classes are supposed to be better at single target and no movement. It's no more pure than looking at just tectus imo. The other four fights have mechanics that directly mess with DPS or have different possible assignments and strats that'll significantly affect DPS, so they're truly impure unless you control for those variables.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 14 2014 19:28 GMT
#6705
Weapons are so hard to get in this expansion.
Haven't seen the Bow on Brakenspore yet, I think I'll have to wait for the PvP Conquest one. Atleast I know I can get that one pretty fast since I have a good 3s team.
Seems pretty counter productive to have only 1 ranged weapon droping in the whole raid.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 14 2014 19:34 GMT
#6706
On December 14 2014 22:51 Teoita wrote:
Top raiders were averaging only 30k?

Isnt 30k like end of cata first tier dps?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
December 14 2014 19:43 GMT
#6707
I wasnt playing during cata, so dunno. Definitely not MoP numbers though.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 14 2014 19:44 GMT
#6708
On December 15 2014 04:43 Teoita wrote:
I wasnt playing during cata, so dunno. Definitely not MoP numbers though.

I know we wanted like 20k~ for 359 or higher geared people minimum.
30k seems pretty reasonable
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-14 20:48:14
December 14 2014 20:43 GMT
#6709
On December 15 2014 04:28 Noocta wrote:
Weapons are so hard to get in this expansion.
Haven't seen the Bow on Brakenspore yet, I think I'll have to wait for the PvP Conquest one. Atleast I know I can get that one pretty fast since I have a good 3s team.
Seems pretty counter productive to have only 1 ranged weapon droping in the whole raid.


We got three bows so far for only 12 people. Had to disenchant one because the heroic version dropped and we have two hunters.

One of our hunters has 9 highmaul normal-hc drops equipped, not including the double weapon drop :D :D

On December 15 2014 04:43 Teoita wrote:
I wasnt playing during cata, so dunno. Definitely not MoP numbers though.


IIRC i have a screenshot as level ~83-84 with leveling green weapons at 10k overall for one single target 5-man boss as a frost DK, i think maaybe i was bursting into the mid 20's as fire mage in pre-raid gear (blowing all cd's and bl on 5 man heroic boss) but my memory is very fuzzy from back then
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
December 14 2014 20:52 GMT
#6710
30k was heroic firelands dps, early mop was like 70k in blues - maybe 120k at the first tier depending on your gear and the fight
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 14 2014 21:26 GMT
#6711
On December 15 2014 05:43 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 04:28 Noocta wrote:
Weapons are so hard to get in this expansion.
Haven't seen the Bow on Brakenspore yet, I think I'll have to wait for the PvP Conquest one. Atleast I know I can get that one pretty fast since I have a good 3s team.
Seems pretty counter productive to have only 1 ranged weapon droping in the whole raid.


We got three bows so far for only 12 people. Had to disenchant one because the heroic version dropped and we have two hunters.

One of our hunters has 9 highmaul normal-hc drops equipped, not including the double weapon drop :D :D



=(

Oh well, just got a follower mission for a 645 weapon, that will do until I get one from Braken / PvP conquest.
I don't like how easy it is to get screwed by rarity of certains slots tho. Foundry has 2 ranged weapons which will help alleviate that.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-14 22:22:14
December 14 2014 22:17 GMT
#6712
Now 7/7hc and 1/7 mythic.. I imagine we'll be stuck at this for a week or two.

The healing during the last transition and final phase is super tough, especially when melee don't move out and all aoe each other with the force nova
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
December 14 2014 22:37 GMT
#6713
Method killed Imp.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-14 22:41:54
December 14 2014 22:41 GMT
#6714
Highmaul als has some pretty bad stats on items, I don't think there are many classes who like versatility. the iLevel is much higher and therefore better but some of these items still have some pretty bad combinations.
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 14 2014 23:01 GMT
#6715
Versatility has to be the most boring and uninspired stat ever. It literally is just a "more better" stat. I doubt it survives past WoD.

Also I just needed to reiterate how much professions suck for no apparent reason.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
December 14 2014 23:03 GMT
#6716
It literally is just a "more better" stat.


And it's also less better than basically every other stat for most specs. No idea why it was introduced, after removing hit it makes sense to introduce one new stat, not two.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-14 23:16:26
December 14 2014 23:14 GMT
#6717
On December 15 2014 08:03 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
It literally is just a "more better" stat.


And it's also less better than basically every other stat for most specs. No idea why it was introduced, after removing hit it makes sense to introduce one new stat, not two.


It replaced Expertise

I just did probably the biggest fuck up i've seen in WOD and accidentally taunted Mar'gok at ~40% health right before he used the mark on literally our cleanest run so far up to that point (didn't make it out of second transition phase yet)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-14 23:17:58
December 14 2014 23:17 GMT
#6718
Meh expertise and hit ended up doing the same exact thing, i even ended up gemming it on my mage...plus, expertise was on paper a melee only stat, while versatility is just randomly all over the place because yes.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
TerranHwaiting
Profile Joined December 2014
Korea (North)179 Posts
December 14 2014 23:17 GMT
#6719
The last HM Boss is a pain in the Ass. Phase 4 is crazy. He is way harder than the first bosses on Heroic :o
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
December 14 2014 23:19 GMT
#6720
On December 15 2014 08:17 Teoita wrote:
Meh expertise and hit ended up doing the same exact thing, i even ended up gemming it on my mage...plus, expertise was on paper a melee only stat, while versatility is just randomly all over the place because yes.


Everything but casters, so it included hunters to some extent IIRC
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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