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Whose hotkey signature is this?

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namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
507 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 15:46:52
September 23 2025 15:46 GMT
#1
Some people claim they can guess who is the pro based on their hotkeys.

If so, can you guess whose hotkeys is this?

[image loading]


HINT
+ Show Spoiler +
It's protoss vs. zerg
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LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1498 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 16:06:48
September 23 2025 16:05 GMT
#2
@RJB

The data doesn't look in a presentable way to me. Extra difficulty...
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1655 Posts
September 23 2025 17:20 GMT
#3
Aren't we supposed to know the key assignments too?
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10228 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-23 19:29:02
September 23 2025 19:28 GMT
#4
Edir: NVM
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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
September 24 2025 00:39 GMT
#5
Jaedong. He doesn't use any hotkeys past 1 to 5.

(jkjk)
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1498 Posts
September 24 2025 09:30 GMT
#6
On September 24 2025 09:39 chongu wrote:
Jaedong. He doesn't use any hotkeys past 1 to 5.

(jkjk)


ahaha

Also ur tag: + Show Spoiler +
SC2 is to BW what piss is to water ;D
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1014 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-24 10:50:45
September 24 2025 10:23 GMT
#7
On September 24 2025 00:46 namkraft wrote:
Some people claim they can guess who is the pro based on their hotkeys.

If so, can you guess whose hotkeys is this?

[image loading]


HINT
+ Show Spoiler +
It's protoss vs. zerg


Got to know if its Protoss or zerg. Looks like a protoss but zerg is possible.
It looks like Dic_Blade if its a Protoss.He started 2 3 and a delayed 1. Slowly added 4 5 6. Keeps 2 unchanged for 5-8 minutes usually.
SnOw, Mini and Best have some similarities but don't start with 2 3 and a delayed 1. They started 1 2 and a delayed 3. Snow also adds hotkey 7 in around 3-4 minutes. Best tends to add 5 before hotkey 4, but sometimes adds both. He also adds 678 for macro gates just after minutes 6-7.It looks most like Mini, but more Like Blade. Mini just starts out slightly different, usually, but maintains the same hotkey progression and the unchanged 2 hotkey. Its not Stork, Motive, Ruin, Tyson, YSC, Shuttle, Horang2, Ssinz, or Paralyze.

Could Best or Mini, but I am leaning heavily towards Blade.
But it could be a zerg. There's some similarities between some players of different races. Hence I have to know if its protoss or zerg.

I never use only hotkeys to identify. It is always a combination of Race + APM/EAPM + hotkeys. Usually also use 5+ replays to confirm the hotkey use is generally consistent, because small variations do happen with the same player.

On September 24 2025 09:39 chongu wrote:
Jaedong. He doesn't use any hotkeys past 1 to 5.

(jkjk)


Jaedong keys 1-6 all at the starts of the game, and then only uses 1-6, rarely adds 7 for 1 unit that doesn't fit into the other groups.
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iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation372 Posts
September 24 2025 10:55 GMT
#8
Bisu?
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1014 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-24 11:01:02
September 24 2025 11:00 GMT
#9
On September 24 2025 19:55 iFU.spx wrote:
Bisu?

Bisu starts 1probe 2probe 4nexus, with 3 usually coming in post 8-10 minutes for a little bit of random assigning to anything. 1 and 2 are changed to nexus for a short bit after like minute 1 and then changed to units. everything above 5 is buildings.
JDON MY SOUL!
Phyanketto
Profile Joined September 2011
United States601 Posts
September 25 2025 04:56 GMT
#10
Faker
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namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
507 Posts
September 25 2025 13:40 GMT
#11
Lol who the hell is DIC_Blade and why would you know his hotkey config??
It's Protoss btw.
Broodwar Forever
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1014 Posts
September 25 2025 16:23 GMT
#12
On September 25 2025 22:40 namkraft wrote:
Lol who the hell is DIC_Blade and why would you know his hotkey config??
It's Protoss btw.

Dic_blade is a pro level ladder toss who often beats top pros. Does not compete in tournaments much like how Rich doesn't.

If it isn't a pro protoss then I have no idea who it is. Just looks like Mini and Blade. Got more replays of this person to get a better idea of hotkey use over more games?
JDON MY SOUL!
namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
507 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-26 00:22:36
September 26 2025 00:19 GMT
#13
Yes sir I do.

Another PvZ
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

https://ibb.co/Xxjq1PPb


PvP
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

https://ibb.co/fzYwWj0g


PvT
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

https://ibb.co/NgDmN52B




Broodwar Forever
`Myst
Profile Joined September 2024
25 Posts
September 26 2025 08:29 GMT
#14
On September 24 2025 00:46 namkraft wrote:
Some people claim they can guess who is the pro based on their hotkeys.


This is a mis-statement.

People compare hotkey signatures between two replays or among a set of replays: one replay that is of unknown origin, and another replay or set of replays that indisputably originate from a particular pro.
"one of the guys came with a nice build the other came to win"
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1498 Posts
September 26 2025 08:45 GMT
#15
On September 26 2025 17:29 `Myst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2025 00:46 namkraft wrote:
Some people claim they can guess who is the pro based on their hotkeys.


This is a mis-statement.

People compare hotkey signatures between two replays or among a set of replays: one replay that is of unknown origin, and another replay or set of replays that indisputably originate from a particular pro.


Well so far so good by RJB... He said Protoss and it is.

Also Dic_blade is a bit of a smurf lel... S and C rank Protoss... ^_._^ Recent Matches Analyzed
27
Matches used in these stats (max 100)
Games Dodged
16
Instant forfeits (59.26%)
Free Wins
4
Opponent instant forefeits (14.81%)

https://cwal.gg/players/gateway/30/player/dic_blade

[image loading]
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1014 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-26 11:19:28
September 26 2025 09:45 GMT
#16
On September 26 2025 17:45 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2025 17:29 `Myst wrote:
On September 24 2025 00:46 namkraft wrote:
Some people claim they can guess who is the pro based on their hotkeys.


This is a mis-statement.

People compare hotkey signatures between two replays or among a set of replays: one replay that is of unknown origin, and another replay or set of replays that indisputably originate from a particular pro.


Well so far so good by RJB... He said Protoss and it is.

Also Dic_blade is a bit of a smurf lel... S and C rank Protoss... ^_._^ Recent Matches Analyzed
27
Matches used in these stats (max 100)
Games Dodged
16
Instant forfeits (59.26%)
Free Wins
4
Opponent instant forefeits (14.81%)

https://cwal.gg/players/gateway/30/player/dic_blade

[image loading]


Dic_Blade also uses a barcode blizzard ID. Which is currently ranked close to the top of the ladder.

This one If I recall correctly. (am on phone no plugin)
https://cwal.gg/players/gateway/30/player/dkdltmvjscl


On September 26 2025 09:19 namkraft wrote:
Yes sir I do.

Another PvZ
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

https://ibb.co/Xxjq1PPb


PvP
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

https://ibb.co/fzYwWj0g


PvT
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

https://ibb.co/NgDmN52B





Now this makes it a lot easier because now we can see this player does add 1 all the way at the start, and that the replay you posted originally was one of the few replays where there is a variation of hik not doing it. We can now also see this player DOES use hotkeys beyond 5, because the first replay was too short for this player to add more hotkeys. This looks a lot less like Blade, and way more like SnOw and Paralyze. That is why we use multiple replays and preferably replays that are 10+ minutes long. When I get to my PC I will check some references.

correction:
Still looks like Blade, but also SnOw, and Paralyze. At this point I would need to see the APM/EAPM to decide. With Protoss pros you get the most similar hotkey use. For some of them it becomes the hotkeys + the average apm/eapm distribution what determines the identity. If the apm/eapm (on scrchart) is like 340/240 it is most likely Paralyze. Blade tends to go 360/210, but occasionally peaks at higher eapms, and Snow 290/210 almost all the time.
JDON MY SOUL!
namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
507 Posts
October 09 2025 15:34 GMT
#17
Sorry for the late reply as I was busy with some other things. But yes indeed it is DIC_Blade so thanks a ton and I guess it's very much possible to guess a player by his hotkey signature after all.

I do have another player I would like your opinion about.
[image loading]


And below is the APM and EAPM
[image loading]


He's a protoss player playing against Zerg

Can somebody help me?
Broodwar Forever
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway748 Posts
October 09 2025 15:54 GMT
#18
Bisu actually hotkeys his observers to 4, I have noticed.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2284 Posts
October 09 2025 23:47 GMT
#19
100% garimto
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
October 10 2025 00:27 GMT
#20
On October 10 2025 00:34 namkraft wrote:
Sorry for the late reply as I was busy with some other things. But yes indeed it is DIC_Blade so thanks a ton and I guess it's very much possible to guess a player by his hotkey signature after all.

I do have another player I would like your opinion about.
[image loading]


And below is the APM and EAPM
[image loading]


He's a protoss player playing against Zerg

Can somebody help me?


What program is this bwchart? I can't seem to get a functional bwchart file to work, it crashes everytime. If anyone can link me to a modern one or link me to their current version that would be great.
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