EPT[wow] Warlords of Draenor - Page 334
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On December 13 2014 07:57 Teoita wrote: Everything was going pretty well for my kind of casual guild (6/7 normal first week), then people decided to stop moving from mines on Imperator for two weeks straight -.- Go heroic. First boss HC is easy, second boss is very easy but a big gear/skill check (stand still and do your thing, but you better be doing it well enough), brackenspore is easy on HC too, relative to expectations and the last boss on normal. For our first kill, we wiped like: 10 times on Ko'ragh normal 40 on mar'gok normal 40 on butcher hc. 6-7 times on brackenspore hc and once on bladefist hc. At the very least it's a change of scenery | ||
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On December 13 2014 12:21 deth2munkies wrote: They were always a warrior race. Garrosh prodded Grommash into basically leveraging the warrior tradition to warp them into conquerors, conquering all the other races on Draenor and beyond...or at least they tried till we blew up the Dark Portal. On December 13 2014 12:30 micronesia wrote: Oh I thought they were originally chill shaman. I didn't play early warcraft games. Honestly, they were both depending on whatever the fuck Blizzard feels like. They sound like they are chill shaman if you read Rise of the Horde, then the Legion tricks Ner'zhul into thinking that the Draenei want to kill them and they start the war, which eventually they win by drinking Mannoroth's blood and going berserk. Then now in WoD they sound like they are all fierce warriors except the Frostwolves. Go heroic. First boss HC is easy, second boss is very easy but a big gear/skill check (stand still and do your thing, but you better be doing it well enough), brackenspore is easy on HC too, relative to expectations and the last boss on normal. For our first kill, we wiped like: 10 times on Ko'ragh normal 40 on mar'gok normal 40 on butcher hc. 6-7 times on brackenspore hc and once on bladefist hc. At the very least it's a change of scenery We oneshot Kargath hc every week for the loots but on every other hc boss we've tried we consistently hit the enrage timer with like 1mill hp left, so eh. At least normal is only about execution (which some people still fuck up, but whatever). | ||
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Cyro
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On December 13 2014 17:41 Teoita wrote: Honestly, they were both depending on whatever the fuck Blizzard feels like. They sound like they are chill shaman if you read Rise of the Horde, then the Legion tricks Ner'zhul into thinking that the Draenei want to kill them and they start the war, which eventually they win by drinking Mannoroth's blood and going berserk. Then now in WoD they sound like they are all fierce warriors except the Frostwolves. We oneshot Kargath hc every week for the loots but on every other hc boss we've tried we consistently hit the enrage timer with like 1mill hp left, so eh. At least normal is only about execution (which some people still fuck up, but whatever). Normal is tuned for a raid of people on premade characters wearing 630 in every slot. Heroic is the same, but with 655. If you're below those levels, you'll need higher than expected levels of skill to kill them. Mechanically for Bladefist, Butcher and Brackenspore it seemed pretty much the same as normal, so they'll probably play similarly when appropriately geared.. It's just if you walk into normal with a full raid of 640, then walk into heroic with a full raid of 640 you're in for a shock | ||
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Kipsate
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Or we have to wait till we get better gear or that enough people have to go so that we down it with 12 competent dedicted raiders l0l, tries always goes better that way. | ||
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Cyro
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On December 14 2014 01:09 Kipsate wrote: My guild is fairly casual/social (raiding with them is perhaps not one of my finest ideas) and we wipe at 10-11% on HC butcher so we need to either outskill or composition it.... Or we have to wait till we get better gear or that enough people have to go so that we down it with 12 competent dedicted raiders l0l, tries always goes better that way. The fights are harder with less people (unless you kick the weaker players). If your guys are not all i655, wait for them to be 655. If they're not gearing or can't do it even with that gear and help, go back to normal mode or replace them~ Also, check your tank damage. Our prot paladin is doing over 15k DPS on Butcher. It helps, but no DPS should be below 18k under any circumstance (you can hit enrage with all dps at 19k and no deaths) | ||
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Teoita
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Check wowprogress>2 boss kills in 4 minutes | ||
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Valenius
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On December 14 2014 02:17 Kipsate wrote: We have a mediocre DK and a prot warrior doing the tanking, how much deeps should they pull?No way in hell they pull 16k in my raids(they could just be bad/undergeared). We had to have our dk dps go tank for hc butcher as our other tank was on holiday. Brewmaster pulled 18k, Blood DK pulled 13.2k. Rest of the dps were between 24k and 18k | ||
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