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On December 08 2014 18:52 Pandemona wrote:
Nice Red!
I hope we can finish heroic tonight, our 3rd raid night attempt!
Also Frost is "bad" sustained dps i'll give but you can still pump out 18k+ on movement intense fights with it so it isn't dog shit in need of a buff.
With gear as well it will get better. Again judge damage now is kinda a bit silly? Maybe after 1st week of Mythic Blizzard should be addressing any more class balance changes?
Dmg buffs/nerfs are confirmed to come out today (in the 5-10% range)
My guess is marksman and WW monk nerfs, maybe rets as well. Enhance should get some single target/scaling buffs and a nerf to firenova
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The whole reasoning for addressing balance before mythic opens is to not screw over top guilds; can you imagine Method or whatever just stacking hunters like madmen and then suddenly when they are about to get a world first, a hotfix hits and most of their dps is lowered by 5-10%?
Also i don't think 5-10% is enough to make Fire and Arcane viable right now, but Fire with 4set might be good enough in hc/mythic BRF.
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Yeah but frost isn't terrible terrible. If you look at logs after the 80 entries of MW monks lol you get your frosts doing 25k plus already. By end of this raid (without any nerfs) Frost would be pulling 30k plus and bursting 100k lol. Doesn't seem in need of a buff imo, unless they intend of everyone to be doing 35k plus at the end of highmaul idk.
I forgot to Rune of Power on butcher for example and didn't run incanters ward on tectus either, adding those i think i might be able to do decent logs there. Also frost bomb is used on tectus too i believe.
But of course we shall see. MW and MM nerfs might have to be big on them though, rip if your one of those lol
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MW Monks do pretty insane dps without gear. I don't know exactly how their scaling works but I've seen some go past 20k with 620 weapons.
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That's what happens when you don't revert lvl 90 balance changes at lvl 100.
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I've got one of three pets down to unlock the menagerie... man what a bitch of a quest if you don't have a lot of strong pets lol
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would anyone want to help me out later by signing a guild charter so i can get a personal guild?
im tired of these guild invites whenever im in my garrison and just want the bank access
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Sure shout at me when i get online and i'll make a character.
Also this is defo the best way to abuse this thread lol. Everyone can get there own guildbank sorted for there chars. Helps when moving big golds amounts cross server too.
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ye i tried using trade chat and 1 but no one gives a shit then remembered ppl from TL play wow
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On December 08 2014 21:38 micronesia wrote:
I've got one of three pets down to unlock the menagerie... man what a bitch of a quest if you don't have a lot of strong pets lol
Just Howl Bomb them into oblivion. All you need for that is pandaren water spirit and chrominius of lvl 25, start with spirit put up geyser then whirlpool, swap to chrominius use howl and then surge of power. Takes care of 95% of stupid legendary pets. If you want maximum safety you can also bring unborn val'kyr to cast haunt before the water spirit for 25% extra dmg, but it won't work for Carrotus Maximus, since he clears all debuffs from himself after a few turns and that combo takes too long to hit.
On December 08 2014 22:09 Targe wrote:
would anyone want to help me out later by signing a guild charter so i can get a personal guild?
im tired of these guild invites whenever im in my garrison and just want the bank access
/w me later today when I'll be online and I can make lvl 1 guild signer to help you out 
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On December 08 2014 20:57 Noocta wrote:
MW Monks do pretty insane dps without gear. I don't know exactly how their scaling works but I've seen some go past 20k with 620 weapons.
thats only with cleave, rets/ferals still destory ww on single target
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glad to see they are buffing arms/fury
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On December 08 2014 21:38 micronesia wrote:
I've got one of three pets down to unlock the menagerie... man what a bitch of a quest if you don't have a lot of strong pets lol
The MoP pet dailies get you a pet from 1-25 every day with quests to spare. I would highly recommend it if your looking to expand your pets.
http://www.warcraftpets.com/community/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4580
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did they put a cap on broken bones, stopped gaining them in ashran from my HKs only getting the honor
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On December 08 2014 17:49 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +I also find it funny that alliance barracks lvl 3 are bigger than whole horde garrison :D Pics? I've only seen the horde garrison
Ok, so this is horde garrison lvl 3:
Right here.
And horde barracks lvl 3:
This one.
Meanwhile, alliance get's this lvl 3 awesome garrison:
Behold!
And big ass barrack lvl 3:
Behold some more!
While everyone has their own preferance I say horde got majorly screwed over with the garrison visiuals.
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On December 08 2014 14:17 NonY wrote:
we cleared heroic in about.. 6-7 hours. killed margok on 16th pull. tbh we could have done faster if we pruned some weaker people. avg ilvl 649.7
edit: there are things that make looking just at avg ilvl not very effective. some dps classes are much stronger than others on certain fights and in general. a guild that happens to have a good margok comp and the stronger classes in general will have a much easier time. also certain items are extremely strong, namely trinkets. the healer boe trinket is broken OP and blizz said they're not gonna nerf it. having slightly higher dps just enough to cross a threshold of seeing a certain mechanic one less time in a phase can be a huge deal. having slightly higher healing to have breathing room through certain mechanics can be a huge deal
After looking into that healing trinket, seems pretty unreasonable that it should be so overpowered. I think it flat out destroys even the 670's from highmaul.
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On December 09 2014 02:33 FinestHour wrote:
did they put a cap on broken bones, stopped gaining them in ashran from my HKs only getting the honor
I made 2.5k bones by leveling cooking on the bridge today. Seemed fine to me.
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On December 09 2014 03:04 ViperPL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2014 17:49 Cyro wrote:I also find it funny that alliance barracks lvl 3 are bigger than whole horde garrison :D Pics? I've only seen the horde garrison Ok, so this is horde garrison lvl 3: Right here.And horde barracks lvl 3: This one.Meanwhile, alliance get's this lvl 3 awesome garrison: Behold!And big ass barrack lvl 3: Behold some more!While everyone has their own preferance I say horde got majorly screwed over with the garrison visiuals.
Wow damn. I haven't played any of my horde toons yet past level 92ish so I haven't seen much of the garrison/buildings. Guess I've been spoiled by the alliance garrison because I do really like it and it really felt like it progressed a lot as you leveled it.
Pretty surprised since they've always shown the horde a lot of love in the past of course haha
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On December 09 2014 03:14 KingDime wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2014 14:17 NonY wrote:
we cleared heroic in about.. 6-7 hours. killed margok on 16th pull. tbh we could have done faster if we pruned some weaker people. avg ilvl 649.7
edit: there are things that make looking just at avg ilvl not very effective. some dps classes are much stronger than others on certain fights and in general. a guild that happens to have a good margok comp and the stronger classes in general will have a much easier time. also certain items are extremely strong, namely trinkets. the healer boe trinket is broken OP and blizz said they're not gonna nerf it. having slightly higher dps just enough to cross a threshold of seeing a certain mechanic one less time in a phase can be a huge deal. having slightly higher healing to have breathing room through certain mechanics can be a huge deal After looking into that healing trinket, seems pretty unreasonable that it should be so overpowered. I think it flat out destroys even the 670's from highmaul.
I heard it is BiS through mythic BRF. The tooltip on it is incorrect -- it actually restores 21k mana. Guilds with healers that all have one have had a much easier time healing things cuz they can use more high mana abilities during high damage phases and not go oom. They can heal up avoidable damage and not go oom. Margok is a 12-13 min fight, so healers are using it a solid 5 times for an extra 105k mana :o None of my guild's healers have one 
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