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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 14 2014 00:57 GMT
#4681
is there any way to fix the garrison quest thing? the npc won't even spawn for me.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
November 14 2014 00:58 GMT
#4682
On November 14 2014 09:50 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2014 09:47 NotSorry wrote:
Is there a way to see all characters on your account and what servers they are on before reactivating an account? I have 4-5wow accounts and I can't remember what characters I have on each one, would really like to know before I add WOD to one of them.


I was able to see most or all of that by going to account management and clicking on a service like faction transfer, while my sub was down

awesome, it worked ^ ^
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-14 01:09:29
November 14 2014 01:06 GMT
#4683
On November 14 2014 09:23 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2014 08:34 aksfjh wrote:
On November 14 2014 07:00 Noocta wrote:
On November 14 2014 06:49 Roe wrote:
I wonder how the sub numbers/activity levels have changed (if at all).


I think WoD and the marketing around it probably pulled back more players than Blizzard expected, which would explaion the insane launch issues that usually don't run that rampant.

Launches are always bad simply because Blizzard doesn't have a good way to scale infrastructure for unusually large spikes in activity. There's no cheap, simple way to do it either. It's not just adding hardware, but adding the linkage and debugging any issues that arises with that hardware, as well as testing it full capacity for the first time. You have to invest in temporary hardware and temporary, skilled personnel.

In other news, position 2704 in queue after 30 minutes. Probably won't be able to play for another 2 hours. :/

I'm not doubting that this is true, but every time it gets brought up the replies always come in the form of vague allusions in the spirit of: "you don't get it/it's too expensive/it's not as easy as you think etc".

It might be helpful if there were some specific information of just what kind of cost and manpower blizzard would need to commit to if they were to manage, say 7 million+ concurrent smoothly. Usually it's just a lot of condescending sneering aimed at people with less technical expertise, which just inflames the situation further.

Blizzard can't give specific information. If I were to guess, having experience as a back-end developer for a company that deploys its own hardware and software, I'd have to say the limiting factor isn't hardware, but rather people. It's extremely hard to hire a competent systems administrator, much less one that you'll only NEED for a month tops. Even if you do find one, you then have to spend 1-3 months training the guy/girl on your specific infrastructure. Most likely, they won't even be the ones doing the temporary deployment, but it will be handled by the guys that have been around for awhile. Each temp worker will likely cost Blizzard $10-15k a month after all is said and done, and you'll likely need 1-2 per additional system you're bringing up, and that's on top of renting/buying the equipment. You normally wouldn't need so many if it were just a normally scheduled ordeal, but the synchronization of a launch of new software and unique load requirements. If you're expected a spike of triple your normal peak, you could easily end up with 2-3 dozen temp workers for the most ambitious of planning.

Then you have the business side of it all, as in how you're going to even put this into action, with the temp high-skilled employees, to the point where you'd have to hire extra people just to turn it into a process you can return to every 1.5-2.5 years. That would be at LEAST another highly skilled full-time hire, but not temp like the system admins. That's another $120k+ easy per year, or it means cutting content as somebody needs to take time to organize it all.

THEN you have to worry about the backend development costs of finding an elegant solution to that problem, which I assure you is quite unique. You can hire a few, skilled developers full time to take care of this ($200k+), or cut content.

Even after this, which totals to over half a million of direct costs (at the low end) that I am aware of, and there is no guarantee you're not going to run into the same problems. There's likely a LOT more than I'm missing in other departments as well that would simply support these other employees that are hired, and you also have to be aware of what temp workers do to things like company culture and worker morale. And you can't just hand-wave it away in monthly subs and cash influx from the expac, since those things are likely budgeted anyways.

Updated queue position: 1340.

Edit: I don't want to sound rude or anything or argue, nor is my breakdown any more than a lightly educated guess. I'm just waiting to get out of this queue and this passes the time.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22586 Posts
November 14 2014 01:20 GMT
#4684
Meh, think your clever by going to sleep very early because its mostly unplayable anyway and trying against at 2am only to find yourself in a 500 queue anyway...

Guess i'll get on and atleast see if it is better by some miracle.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
November 14 2014 01:22 GMT
#4685
After sitting in queue for two and a half hours it brought me to 20 minutes left. Then server goes offline. Mal'GANIS!

Well, I guess now is a time to catch up on those TWD comics I bought from Comixology.
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
November 14 2014 02:09 GMT
#4686
Its pretty awful, Ive never even seen a queue before on Korgath and its 3600 lol. I played a couple hours last night without undue problems tho to be fair. Garrison up and stuff. I just cant get on now.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 14 2014 02:41 GMT
#4687
Don't try to play for the next 3-4 hours. just wait it out.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
November 14 2014 02:43 GMT
#4688
Finally in on Sargeras :D 2.5 hours in a queue. Now it takes 30 seconds to turn in a quest and activate quest items...
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
November 14 2014 02:53 GMT
#4689
Went through 5 hours of queue on Mal'ganis, from 4000 to 500 and then the queue froze, kicked me out, and I'm back at 5k. Thanks blizz.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
November 14 2014 03:09 GMT
#4690
Aaaaaand disconnect. ;_;
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 14 2014 03:11 GMT
#4691
world server is down just wait
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 14 2014 03:22 GMT
#4692
World server down for Stormscale EU too.
I wonder what's happening
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22586 Posts
November 14 2014 03:23 GMT
#4693
eu-silvermoon aswell.

wtf did they do that 2 entire regions get server down :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
November 14 2014 03:24 GMT
#4694
Supposly there is a DDOS attack going all day long.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22586 Posts
November 14 2014 03:27 GMT
#4695
Its 4am in europe. The game is playable for another few hours before the day time surge will kill it. can they like ddos then and not now plz ^^
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22586 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-14 03:28:05
November 14 2014 03:27 GMT
#4696
looks like its back
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 14 2014 03:29 GMT
#4697
World server is down xD
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
November 14 2014 03:42 GMT
#4698
Illidan is so extraordinarily boned. I was in queue for like 5 and a half hours and then it dropped me, and now I can't even connect. Suffering.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 14 2014 03:46 GMT
#4699
On November 14 2014 12:24 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
Supposly there is a DDOS attack going all day long.


I believe it, even when the realms were open and up there'd be spikes every couple of minutes.
nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
November 14 2014 04:40 GMT
#4700
So I got disconnected and hearthed back Org before I could finish the quests to get the mini dark portal to open. How the heck do I get back now?
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
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