• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:19
CET 17:19
KST 01:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship3[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage3Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win82025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting RSL S3 Round of 16 [TLCH] Mission 7: Last Stand
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Practice Partners (Official) [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1823 users

[wow] Warlords of Draenor - Page 237

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 235 236 237 238 239 591 Next
Add yourself to the player list
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
November 14 2014 12:46 GMT
#4721
I just purchased the expansion... and it says I don't have any game time Didn't they always give out a month when you bought an expansion?
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
November 14 2014 12:53 GMT
#4722
On November 14 2014 21:46 nkr wrote:
I just purchased the expansion... and it says I don't have any game time Didn't they always give out a month when you bought an expansion?


Nope, at least for Cata / MoP. Years ago when I bought classic it included one month.

Also fuck, still issues on EU. Probably will be shit during the weekend as well...
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
November 14 2014 13:12 GMT
#4723
4 hour shutdown
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
November 14 2014 13:27 GMT
#4724
Whelp, time to work on my paper during this 4 hour holiday....
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
November 14 2014 13:31 GMT
#4725
Already max level, but it took an extreme amount of patience (and a few more deaths than I am willing to admit) during last night's tomfoolery.

In any case, definitely my most favorite leveling experience since Wrath certainly, let's hope the end-game is as fun as garrisons turned out to be (WHICH ARE AWESOME)
In Inca we trust
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 14 2014 13:33 GMT
#4726
On November 14 2014 19:58 Teoita wrote:
Mostly it feels like their servers havent had any hardware upgrade since 2004


Blizzard went from 200+ physical servers to 28(?) physical servers at the launch of WoD. "Connected realms" is just a PR way of saying "most of our servers were dead and we want to save on hardware costs so we are literally combining them".

The hardware was updated 2-3 years ago but that doesn't mean much when they merged ten existing physical servers into one.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 14 2014 13:38 GMT
#4727
So basically they are making about 60% the amount of players they used to have, on ~15% of the physical servers, resulting in 4 times the load for said servers?

Smart.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
November 14 2014 13:45 GMT
#4728
OMGGG I have one quest left on the first map: The Battle of the Thunder Pass, and the scenario just wouldn't load. I was so close to get outta this hell hole, but so close yet so far.
Best Teemo World
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 14 2014 13:47 GMT
#4729
On November 14 2014 22:38 Teoita wrote:
So basically they are making about 60% the amount of players they used to have, on ~15% of the physical servers, resulting in 4 times the load for said servers?

Smart.


Basically, yes. I'm sure there's a bit more to it than that because they started removing hardware back in January but... It's a cost cutting measure regardless.

The problem is I'm not aware of them upgrading hardware again. They just tweaked the 3 year old stuff, and that had a server capacity of 7k players or so. They probably balanced it so like, one server might get two 5k servers and another.might get ten 1k servers... But in the end they still lowered their capacity.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
November 14 2014 13:55 GMT
#4730
Laglords of Lagland day 2 continues. Such a joke.
A dota player and lol player walk into a bar. The dota player says: "lol sucks". Lol player couldn't deny. http://i.imgur.com/FpLeTf1.gif
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-14 13:59:50
November 14 2014 13:58 GMT
#4731
I'm starting to get annoyed slowly, i expected problems - but what's going on right now is simply a joke.

Frostwolf is completely unplayable, as in, absolutely unplayable (instant cast taking 60 seconds and more, IF you can move to your target). Garrison doesn't work 9 out of 10 times, and the worst thing by far:

Blizzard blatantly lying.

DDoS? Yeah, right. Anyone noticed that the old world works just fine? Servers are up? A DDoS looks alot different to what's happening. One could say that all the logins etc in the new world act kinda like a manual DDoS, but that's on blizzard.

And then there's this bluepost in the NA forum:

We've had some time to evaluate the overwhelmingly positive response to Warlords of Draenor as it went live for European players, and realized getting you through the Dark Portal in an efficient manner is important.


which is a joke. There can't be an overwhelmingly positive response, because the overwhelming majority can't play.

As i said, i didn't expect a smooth launch, but this bullshit is entirely on blizzard. There's nothing unexpected happening. The garrison doesn't work because it's too many people trying to access it (could've been prevented by having a stress test in beta), the worldservers implode because too many people playing (again, on blizzard - how can you missjudge the playerbase so hard if you have all the data?).

And then they don't even give out free character-transfers for the realms that are unplayable/running on limit. Why? Milking the people a bit more?

In all honesty, this is the worst launch by far. All launches had trouble, yes - but this one tops them all. And the sad thing is, it could've been prevented (we are prepared my ass). They're so proud of their "technology", it's about time they introduce overflow-servers like Guild Wars 2 had. Brought some inconveniences, but you could play.

edit: and yeah, i'm venting.
On track to MA1950A.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
November 14 2014 14:06 GMT
#4732
I will say, the Garrison minion/mission system is really entertaining for some odd reason; I've got 3 epic followers and I'm quite proud of their exploits thus far :D
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 14 2014 14:06 GMT
#4733
People on high pop servers complaining about launch lag is nothing new. This expansion is no worse than every other one that's come out (except maybe MoP because people really didn't fucking care about that launch). At least they've improved the quest mob tagging and collectable items being personal rather than first come first served. Makes it much easier.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-14 14:10:21
November 14 2014 14:08 GMT
#4734
On November 14 2014 23:06 deth2munkies wrote:
People on high pop servers complaining about launch lag is nothing new. This expansion is no worse than every other one that's come out (except maybe MoP because people really didn't fucking care about that launch). At least they've improved the quest mob tagging and collectable items being personal rather than first come first served. Makes it much easier.


No. Being unplayable is new though. I play on Frostwolf, i can compare the lag to other launches. Not being able to move is pretty new too.

Quest mob tagging etc is moot, since half the time you're standing in an empty world anyway. I think we have different opinions on what's "playable".

I will say, the Garrison minion/mission system is really entertaining for some odd reason; I've got 3 epic followers and I'm quite proud of their exploits thus far :D


I like the garrison too, didn't get to use it much so far - but the moments i could, it was fun.
On track to MA1950A.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 14 2014 14:09 GMT
#4735
On November 14 2014 23:06 deth2munkies wrote:
People on high pop servers complaining about launch lag is nothing new. This expansion is no worse than every other one that's come out (except maybe MoP because people really didn't fucking care about that launch). At least they've improved the quest mob tagging and collectable items being personal rather than first come first served. Makes it much easier.


In the US, maybe. In EU the NPC's in your garrison can't spawn unless server traffic is low (ie, between like 1 and 9 am), which kind of fucks up the whole thing
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-14 14:17:34
November 14 2014 14:14 GMT
#4736
On November 14 2014 23:09 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2014 23:06 deth2munkies wrote:
People on high pop servers complaining about launch lag is nothing new. This expansion is no worse than every other one that's come out (except maybe MoP because people really didn't fucking care about that launch). At least they've improved the quest mob tagging and collectable items being personal rather than first come first served. Makes it much easier.


In the US, maybe. In EU the NPC's in your garrison can't spawn unless server traffic is low (ie, between like 1 and 9 am), which kind of fucks up the whole thing


I think it has to do with the fact that he doesn't realise that the US pop is alot lower than the EU pop. Server to server, and max pop.

edit: and Frostwolf isn't a "high pop server" in comparison to actually high pop servers (17k players on frostwolf, 73k on draenor).
On track to MA1950A.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-14 14:39:15
November 14 2014 14:36 GMT
#4737
Considering there actually was a huge DDOS yesterday that was pretty highly publicized/followed by many players on twitter last night chill out. This launch is about the same as BC launch and Wrath launch in terms of the lag issues. Of course Garrison's will be the first thing to not work because every single player has their own piece of server for them.

Oh and they actually talk about the DDOS as well, I thought they didn't talk about it.
In Inca we trust
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 14 2014 14:39 GMT
#4738
In blizzard's own words, the ddos was on US, not EU.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
November 14 2014 14:42 GMT
#4739
On November 14 2014 23:36 las91 wrote:
Considering there actually was a huge DDOS yesterday that was pretty highly publicized/followed by many players on twitter last night chill out. This launch is about the same as BC launch and Wrath launch in terms of the lag issues. Of course Garrison's will be the first thing to not work because every single player has their own piece of server for them.

Oh and they actually talk about the DDOS as well, I thought they didn't talk about it.


While that solution helped a ton for our North American launch, we ran into a few other issues, including a distributed denial of service attack, that resulted in increased latency.


Bluepost.

Now: Frostwolf EU.

Not to mention, that was on launch day, neither yesterday nor today. Anything else?
On track to MA1950A.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-14 14:46:06
November 14 2014 14:43 GMT
#4740
Ok? And people think launch day is going to be smooth sailing because? This launch felt no different than any other, except for the fact that I think people were way more hyped for this expansion than the past two combined so it's a bigger let-down.

It's only the second day, they'll fix their servers as fast as they can. Obviously they didn't have enough space for the Garrisons themselves.
On November 14 2014 23:42 m4ini wrote:
Bluepost.

Now: Frostwolf EU.

Not to mention, that was on launch day, neither yesterday nor today. Anything else?


Jesus can you salt harder.

It's the second day of launch on NA, third on EU. Chill. This is by no means the "worst launch to date" and people that think that obviously never saw vanilla or TBC, or don't remember it at all.
In Inca we trust
Prev 1 235 236 237 238 239 591 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 303
ForJumy 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 609
Zeus 561
Hyuk 329
ToSsGirL 117
Soulkey 92
Rock 46
Aegong 34
Shine 21
Yoon 21
Free 12
Dota 2
qojqva3846
Dendi1059
420jenkins340
BananaSlamJamma240
Counter-Strike
oskar84
Other Games
singsing2146
FrodaN716
hiko635
DeMusliM419
Fuzer 231
Hui .224
Mlord212
crisheroes211
XcaliburYe193
Liquid`VortiX155
ceh9134
ArmadaUGS74
KnowMe73
QueenE52
Trikslyr27
OptimusSC22
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL273
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 15
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV375
League of Legends
• Jankos2412
• TFBlade458
Other Games
• Shiphtur208
Upcoming Events
LAN Event
1h 41m
OSC
6h 41m
The PondCast
17h 41m
LAN Event
22h 41m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
OSC
1d 19h
LAN Event
1d 22h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
2 days
IPSL
3 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
IPSL
4 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
LHT Stage 1
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.