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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
On November 16 2013 13:05 Infernal_dream wrote: It's going to be a few years before developers can actually push consoles to their limit. And if you play computer games well of course you're not going to be impressed with console graphics. Dont get me wrong, it just that, since i know quite a bit of tech, while dissapointed somewhat with the specs, i was specting something more, i really want to see BF4 on the PS4, while i already play it at 60fps/1080p on PC, seeing that on consoles and paired up with some great graphics if what Digital foundry said its true (they said the game was mostly on high with some effects on medium), excites me quite a bit ! I love consoles, i always get them actually lol, already have a WiiU and a 3DS, getting a PS4 as soon as the exclusives i care about (or a decent bundle) gets release | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
None of the PS4 Lineup interests me. Only Metal Gear and maybe Final Fantasy if it goes through some drastic changes. Although the PS4 is kinda cheap I think and now that I have a job... | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On November 16 2013 11:50 Tresher wrote: Maybe read my post again? I wrote it SEEMS like it is short and went fast, not that it actually IS. Still a wrong statement. | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On November 16 2013 05:56 Faruko wrote: So, did anyone here got a PS4 ? or if not, any dates ? im getting my around June or so, maybe if they release the Uncharted 4 Bundle not so long after i could go for that I got mine delivered today. It's a great system. Very quiet, boots fast, OS is snappy. Very pleased with it so far. Played a bit of Killzone, Battlefield 4 and FIFA on it. | ||
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Tresher
Germany404 Posts
Whatever not my problem if you have poor reading skills. You could at least tell why or where my statement is wrong. Go troll somewhere else. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
On November 16 2013 13:18 s3rp wrote: From what i've seen i'll wait for at least until MGS Ground Zeros to buy a PS4 . As long as my PC can still run everything on max or close to max and the great exclusives aren't out buying a new console is kind of a waste . i learned the hard way to never ever get a console on launch between the Playstation "no games for a year" 3, and the Xbox "RROD 5 times" 360, i said to myself, never EVER get a console on launch again, will wiat for a revision or at least the 2nd/3rd batch | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
In the meantime Watchdogs should have better graphics on my PC machine anyway  | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On November 17 2013 03:27 Faruko wrote: i learned the hard way to never ever get a console on launch between the Playstation "no games for a year" 3, and the Xbox "RROD 5 times" 360, i said to myself, never EVER get a console on launch again, will wiat for a revision or at least the 2nd/3rd batch Yeah and that too at launch even the best system will have a few problems that will get fixed over time. Not to mention plenty of features and improvements to the system will be made over time as well. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On November 16 2013 21:02 Tresher wrote: Whatever not my problem if you have poor reading skills. You could at least tell why or where my statement is wrong. Go troll somewhere else. A hypothesis (seem vs be) ending up wrong is still wrong. You don't need to be so touchy lol my first post was just about calling you on the fact that it wasn' true whether it's a sentiment or an affirmation is irrelevant. On November 17 2013 03:35 s3rp wrote: Yeah and that too at launch even the best system will have a few problems that will get fixed over time. Not to mention plenty of features and improvements to the system will be made over time as well. Yes there's not much point right now that's for sure. Some PS4 had a few problems on some streams yesterday afterall. | ||
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FromShouri
United States862 Posts
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/ps4-hdmi-issue-results-in-a-limited-number-of-broken-launch-hardware-1199946 | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On November 17 2013 04:33 rezoacken wrote: I wouldn't be able to do an exhaustive list but for example there is this: http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/ps4-hdmi-issue-results-in-a-limited-number-of-broken-launch-hardware-1199946 There were millions of preorders, if only a very tiny fraction of those were faulty units, that's thousands of angry people on the internet complaining about their broken machines at once. This isn't a big deal. It's normal for a launch as big as this, there's no need to be afraid if anyone wants a PS4. | ||
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Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
I know the Amazon Seller Marketplace gives you a target rate of <1% for defective units, which is more or less in-line with what I would more or less expect at the very most. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On November 17 2013 17:10 Mysticesper wrote: I dunno what typical target "defect" rates are when it comes to electronic manufacturing, but .4% seems totally reasonable and normal. I know the Amazon Seller Marketplace gives you a target rate of <1% for defective units, which is more or less in-line with what I would more or less expect at the very most. .4% was an early estimate, but I'm guessing it's actually a bit higher than that. Electronics defect rates are relatively high, and the HDMI issue only represents one highly visible form of defect - there's probably other defects that people haven't noticed. The data out there is hard to judge, because it's all pulled from different time frames. Based on warranty usage, I think the PS3's failure rate was like 3%, while the early 360's were something stupid like 16%. Apple's are <1%, I think. Once you go to 3-4 year data, all electronics have terrible defect rates, compared to other consumer products. In quality terms, .4% would be like four sigma, but that's unrealistically low for a complex electronics device, which is why I don't believe it. Regardless of how many people it's affecting, it's absolutely stupid that they sent un-tested and defective units to reviewers. Some marketing intern needs to be testing that shit, before you deliver your stuff to major journalists. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
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Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
On November 18 2013 08:07 Jibba wrote: .4% was an early estimate, but I'm guessing it's actually a bit higher than that. Electronics defect rates are relatively high, and the HDMI issue only represents one highly visible form of defect - there's probably other defects that people haven't noticed. The data out there is hard to judge, because it's all pulled from different time frames. Based on warranty usage, I think the PS3's failure rate was like 3%, while the early 360's were something stupid like 16%. Apple's are <1%, I think. Once you go to 3-4 year data, all electronics have terrible defect rates, compared to other consumer products. In quality terms, .4% would be like four sigma, but that's unrealistically low for a complex electronics device, which is why I don't believe it. Regardless of how many people it's affecting, it's absolutely stupid that they sent un-tested and defective units to reviewers. Some marketing intern needs to be testing that shit, before you deliver your stuff to major journalists. Interesting. Was just kind of curious. Thanks :D | ||
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
I'm not sure if it is true anymore, but a few years back Sony had such good manufacturing processes that close to 0% of their units would be defective - this enabled them to drop quality control from their factories to save money, because it was cheaper to replace the very small number of defective ones than to run a QC department. Anyway the point is that problems like this, at least in small numbers, are fairly normal, and I wouldn't read too much into it nor would it stop me from buying one if I was going to do so otherwise. | ||
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