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On November 15 2013 21:59 Tula wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 17:54 Caphe wrote:
Well, Uncharted 4 has just been announce for the PS4. Its safe to say we are at least 9 months to 1 year from the actual release. Well that seems to be my time to buy a PS4 then :p so far none of the launch titles is anywhere close to convincing me to buy one. Still quite surprised that neither Sony nor Microsoft dished out the money to make either AC4 or GTA5 a "launch exclusive" for their console.
They learnt from last gen that its not worth it. MS paid alot of money trying to break the Japanese market but the Xbox360 failed really hard there.
While Sony paid alot of money to SE for FF13 timed exclusive just to see it got release of 360 a year later.
The other reason is third parties dont want to do exclusive anymore they will surely earn more money and audiences going multi-platform. . And for this reason I believe Sony has a much better chance this gen since their in-house studio is top notch compare to the most prestige 3rd party out there while MS has very little to show from its in-house and still pay money for 3rd party exclusive that will probably go multi once they got the chance to do it.
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On November 15 2013 21:53 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 05:10 rezoacken wrote:
Either way it's pretty hard to tell at this stage.
Consoles have always had lower raw specs. But on the other hand they get the following benefits when it comes to performance:
-Their architecture is made with games in mind. Both from a hardware point of view and software point of view (OS).
-Every machine is the same, making optimization and debugging a lot easier for a console than a PC
-PC ports have been known to be often crappy. So all those games that get a delayed PC release often end up just being better on consoles. Not all of them of course. If I remember correct both Xbox and Xbox 360 had top tier PC level specs at their launch. PS3 to a lesser extent but is still a beastly machine at its time. But yeah PS4 and Xbox One specs are disappointing.
Exactly the 360 and PS3 were beasts back in the day, sure it lasted a year or so, but they were... the PS4 and the XB1 are releasing with amost 2 year old hardware (at least the GPU), the "comparable" 7850 of the PS4 was release on 1st quarter of 2012, and the Jaguar CPU while relatevely new and custom made (8 cores, but some reports say that only 4 are for gaming)(May 2013), they are not meant to be made for gaming...
Like i said, im getting a PS4, around june or so, or maybe if they release an Uncharted 4 bunde, already own a pretty dam decent gaming PC, WiiU and 3DS, but that doesnt mean im quite dissapointed with the specs.
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On November 16 2013 00:43 Faruko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 21:53 digmouse wrote:On November 15 2013 05:10 rezoacken wrote:
Either way it's pretty hard to tell at this stage.
Consoles have always had lower raw specs. But on the other hand they get the following benefits when it comes to performance:
-Their architecture is made with games in mind. Both from a hardware point of view and software point of view (OS).
-Every machine is the same, making optimization and debugging a lot easier for a console than a PC
-PC ports have been known to be often crappy. So all those games that get a delayed PC release often end up just being better on consoles. Not all of them of course. If I remember correct both Xbox and Xbox 360 had top tier PC level specs at their launch. PS3 to a lesser extent but is still a beastly machine at its time. But yeah PS4 and Xbox One specs are disappointing. Exactly the 360 and PS3 were beasts back in the day, sure it lasted a year or so, but they were... the PS4 and the XB1 are releasing with amost 2 year old hardware (at least the GPU), the "comparable" 7850 of the PS4 was release on 1st quarter of 2012, and the Jaguar CPU while relatevely new and custom made (8 cores, but some reports say that only 4 are for gaming)(May 2013), they are not meant to be made for gaming... Like i said, im getting a PS4, around june or so, or maybe if they release an Uncharted 4 bunde, already own a pretty dam decent gaming PC, WiiU and 3DS, but that doesnt mean im quite dissapointed with the specs.
I'm surprised no one has posted their first impressions here yet. It came out today didn't it?
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On November 16 2013 00:49 ayaz2810 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 00:43 Faruko wrote:On November 15 2013 21:53 digmouse wrote:On November 15 2013 05:10 rezoacken wrote:
Either way it's pretty hard to tell at this stage.
Consoles have always had lower raw specs. But on the other hand they get the following benefits when it comes to performance:
-Their architecture is made with games in mind. Both from a hardware point of view and software point of view (OS).
-Every machine is the same, making optimization and debugging a lot easier for a console than a PC
-PC ports have been known to be often crappy. So all those games that get a delayed PC release often end up just being better on consoles. Not all of them of course. If I remember correct both Xbox and Xbox 360 had top tier PC level specs at their launch. PS3 to a lesser extent but is still a beastly machine at its time. But yeah PS4 and Xbox One specs are disappointing. Exactly the 360 and PS3 were beasts back in the day, sure it lasted a year or so, but they were... the PS4 and the XB1 are releasing with amost 2 year old hardware (at least the GPU), the "comparable" 7850 of the PS4 was release on 1st quarter of 2012, and the Jaguar CPU while relatevely new and custom made (8 cores, but some reports say that only 4 are for gaming)(May 2013), they are not meant to be made for gaming... Like i said, im getting a PS4, around june or so, or maybe if they release an Uncharted 4 bunde, already own a pretty dam decent gaming PC, WiiU and 3DS, but that doesnt mean im quite dissapointed with the specs. I'm surprised no one has posted their first impressions here yet. It came out today didn't it?
I think that's because they're all playing it. JP and Wheat are playing it today live stream and they'll be talking about their opinions on the system as the play, so there's that.
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Knack is getting poor reviews. Currently having an average of 59% with mostly mixed reviews.
No that I'm surprised, it always looked terrible to me.
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Knack looks... damn boring, if wasnt for Nintendo, platformers woud be dead
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On November 16 2013 05:17 Faruko wrote:
Knack looks... damn boring, if wasnt for Nintendo, platformers woud be dead
Ive heard a lot of good from Rayman as far as platformers are concerned. And I'm bored with Mario games.
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On November 16 2013 05:23 rezoacken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 05:17 Faruko wrote:
Knack looks... damn boring, if wasnt for Nintendo, platformers woud be dead Ive heard a lot of good from Rayman as far as platformers are concerned. And I'm bored with Mario games.
Oh im not saying Mario is the choice/best (they are for me, but thats a WHOLE other story), but they are the last company to really to commit to those kind of games
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On November 16 2013 05:26 Faruko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 05:23 rezoacken wrote:On November 16 2013 05:17 Faruko wrote:
Knack looks... damn boring, if wasnt for Nintendo, platformers woud be dead Ive heard a lot of good from Rayman as far as platformers are concerned. And I'm bored with Mario games. Oh im not saying Mario is the choice/best (they are for me, but thats a WHOLE other story), but they are the last company to really to commit to those kind of games
Eh, I wouldn't say Nintendo commits to those games. They just make platformer Mario games once or twice every device. Maybe Kirby every-so-often. Haven't even bothered with Metroid.
There's also Capcom (occasional Castlevania and Megaman) and Ubisoft (the new Rayman games are extremely good). Otherwise it's all Indie.
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So, did anyone here got a PS4 ? or if not, any dates ? im getting my around June or so, maybe if they release the Uncharted 4 Bundle not so long after i could go for that
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On November 16 2013 05:23 rezoacken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 05:17 Faruko wrote:
Knack looks... damn boring, if wasnt for Nintendo, platformers woud be dead Ive heard a lot of good from Rayman as far as platformers are concerned. And I'm bored with Mario games.
Super Mario galaxy 1 and 2 were brilliant games. I don't care much for their ds games but w.e
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On November 16 2013 05:56 Faruko wrote:
So, did anyone here got a PS4 ? or if not, any dates ? im getting my around June or so, maybe if they release the Uncharted 4 Bundle not so long after i could go for that
Some time between december and mars probably for me. I don't expect U4 to be released before the end of 2014 (or 2015 if they haven't worked a lot on it yet).
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I fucking love my ps4. I have been streaming all morning with 3 freinds streaming as well on my stream. I guess we are streaming together.
The PS Vita is amazing, have to admit when I went to take a dump this morning was the first time I tried it out but killzone worked amazingly well haha
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On November 16 2013 06:36 Beavo wrote:
I fucking love my ps4. I have been streaming all morning with 3 freinds streaming as well on my stream. I guess we are streaming together.
The PS Vita is amazing, have to admit when I went to take a dump this morning was the first time I tried it out but killzone worked amazingly well haha
It's good to hear man. Been watching some stream surely it's a great system. I will still wait till next year though
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DJ Wheat is doing a 24h Launch Stream with JP. Holy Crap Resogun looks AWESOME. Super Stardust HD was superb but I think this is even more Fantastic.
But even if I had the money for it I wouldnt buy a PS 4 directly at launch or a few weeks/months later even if its cheaper than a PS 3. Did that with PS 3 and got a YLOD after 1 year and a half which was very disappointing. So I dont trust the technology behind it. Didnt buy a new one till now, have one of my friends ones here so Im still kind of living in the PS 3 era. Cant believe they released a new console, the space between PS 3 release and this one seems so small, everything went so fast. But it was still a bit faster with PSX/PS2.
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It's the longest gap between one generation to the next so I don't really know what you're talking about 
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Killzone graphics are actually very good, not only for a console game, for a game on any platform period.
Also, Battlefield 4 for me on PS4 has been very stable, and plays great.
Overall extremely happy with PS4 so far.
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On November 16 2013 11:37 rezoacken wrote:It's the longest gap between one generation to the next so I don't really know what you're talking about
Maybe read my post again? I wrote it SEEMS like it is short and went fast, not that it actually IS.
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Just tried Killzone... meh graphics are decent at best some textures are blurry and the phycis OH the physics... better than the past gen , but i thinking we are getting to the point of dimishing returns, the lighting effects were really good though, the gameplay was pretty good, but felt that the MP was "lacking", i mean, its not bad, its fun but it didnt had any kind of atmosphere (compared to BF for example, where you can hear bullets, explosions, and bla bla bla all the time)
really liked the artstyle, which by the way, it was matter the most IMO
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On November 16 2013 12:58 Faruko wrote:
Just tried Killzone... meh graphics are decent at best some textures are blurry and the phycis OH the physics... better than the past gen , but i thinking we are getting to the point of dimishing returns, the lighting effects were really good though, the gameplay was pretty good, but felt that the MP was "lacking", i mean, its not bad, its fun but it didnt had any kind of atmosphere (compared to BF for example, where you can hear bullets, explosions, and bla bla bla all the time)
really liked the artstyle, which by the way, it was matter the most IMO
It's going to be a few years before developers can actually push consoles to their limit. And if you play computer games well of course you're not going to be impressed with console graphics.
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