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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
In an OT note wtf happened to Adam Sessler? | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On May 23 2013 07:36 Yurie wrote: Since it will be a streaming solution there is no reason it won't work on a PC... Will be nice to be able to play some of the PS3 games I never got around to. I tend to play rpgs on consoles so the input delay should be possible to handle. It might happen for PC although it'll depend on if Sony makes Gakei available to anything outside the PS4 . Though my guess is Gakei will have a premium feature where you will be able to do so even on PC. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On May 23 2013 10:51 zoLo wrote: Old news and probably posted, but just wanted to share in case anyone missed it. I find this pretty funny. http://n4g.com/news/1261938/scandal-applause-and-cheering-at-the-xbox-one-reveal-didnt-come-from-the-press Well no surprise i wouldn't call it a scandal it was so obvios because MS didn't announce anything to really cheer about ... | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 23 2013 11:57 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: http://youtu.be/_4QV28ABuF0 In an OT note wtf happened to Adam Sessler? He works for r3v Gaming or something now on Youtube. Posts a video or two every day. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
As far as playing games goes, it seems like a beefed up 360. When I imagine "next generation video gaming", I am imaging either some sort of brain-computer interface or gaming graphics equal to real life graphics, so this reveal is a touch disappointing. I remember when the 360 came out, I was thinking, "man, I bet the next xbox will be truly amazing!" -- I was wrong. I feel like it evolved sideways into the multimedia area more than evolved forward into a new generation of gaming. All that being said, I will probably end up grabbing one for the access to new titles -- I'm a big fan of Halo games, even the relatively bad/new ones. At least a few of my buds will definitely be getting one, so maybe I'll wait a while before pulling the trigger | ||
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bigwizard
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
Most people are already console owners, and there are already vast numbers of people who will probably buy this anyways because they want to play games and they liked the 360. And that market is going to buy the console irregardless of the other fluff alongside it. None of the One's features should possibly affect how you play games (I'm pretty sure the always-on or online-a-day limitations aren't going to happen). So I really don't understand why you would be complaining about the features that you have not only never tried, but also when you were going to buy it on the basis of it being a gaming device. To make an analogy, it's like buying a printer only to print stuff, but then you notice that it can also scan stuff as well, and then be mad about it being able to scan things, and complain about how scanning will take away from the printing prowess. Microsoft isn't saying, "Screw all the gamers". They're saying, "Hey, yes, you can play games on it yada yada yada, we know it'll be awesome at that. But look at all this other cool shit we're going to do with it. Isn't it a good surprise?" The idea of integration is to remove redundancy. If you already have a One that can act as a cable box, then you don't really need a cable box anymore. Sure, some of your cable boxes might be much better than the One, but features can be added, and this is really showing you how it could work if you don't need those. The television thing makes sense because all we've been talking about for a while now is using your phone to control the television. Your phone's probably on hand all the time anyways, why not use it to not only control but also supplement your experience? And the best part is, if you don't want these features, just don't use them. You were going to buy the One for the games anyways, so all of these features shouldn't be taking away from that reason. It's just adding other things you can do with it that you weren't expecting. On May 23 2013 12:37 FallDownMarigold wrote: What we really need is "next generation graphics", if that's even a legitimate concept. These consoles -- XBOX1 and PS4 -- don't scream "next gen" to me at all since they don't add anything truly new. This new xbox only adds performance power and expanded multimedia capacity... which is OK, but a little fluffy sounding when it's dubbed the "next gen" of gaming. As far as playing games goes, it seems like a beefed up 360. When I imagine "next generation video gaming", I am imaging either some sort of brain-computer interface or gaming graphics equal to real life graphics, so this reveal is a touch disappointing. I remember when the 360 came out, I was thinking, "man, I bet the next xbox will be truly amazing!" -- I was wrong. I feel like it evolved sideways into the multimedia area more than evolved forward into a new generation of gaming. The point is that Microsoft and Sony upgrades the hardware on the console in order to support developers. Developers are, in the end, the ones who have to program and optimize their games to utilize the full processing power of the console. The problem was that the previous PS3 and 360 were starting to age, and for the most part, most people believed they had hit the limit of how good games can look and play on those consoles. So Sony and MS release a new console, and just like before, it'll take time as the programmers figure out how to optimize and improve the quality of the games. This is what can be accomplished in probably ~1 year by solo teams. What could they look like after 5 years with many more development teams? Real life graphics are achievable but there's a heck of a lot of work to be done to chase after them, and the point of "next generation" is that you're going to raise the limits of what you could have done before (but honestly it's a buzzword so why get hung up over those?). Anyways, as a programmer/techie, the new consoles (at least the PS4 since we don't know the One specs) are very promising in terms of what games people think can be created by the updated processing powers. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On May 23 2013 12:37 FallDownMarigold wrote: What we really need is "next generation graphics", if that's even a legitimate concept. These consoles -- XBOX1 and PS4 -- don't scream "next gen" to me at all since they don't add anything truly new. This new xbox only adds performance power and expanded multimedia capacity... which is OK, but a little fluffy sounding when it's dubbed the "next gen" of gaming. As far as playing games goes, it seems like a beefed up 360. When I imagine "next generation video gaming", I am imaging either some sort of brain-computer interface or gaming graphics equal to real life graphics, so this reveal is a touch disappointing. I remember when the 360 came out, I was thinking, "man, I bet the next xbox will be truly amazing!" -- I was wrong. I feel like it evolved sideways into the multimedia area more than evolved forward into a new generation of gaming. All that being said, I will probably end up grabbing one for the access to new titles -- I'm a big fan of Halo games, even the relatively bad/new ones. At least a few of my buds will definitely be getting one, so maybe I'll wait a while before pulling the trigger You thought it would be possible to create a brain-computer interface and real life graphics? We don't have that technology yet bro lol. | ||
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On May 23 2013 12:37 FallDownMarigold wrote: What we really need is "next generation graphics", if that's even a legitimate concept. These consoles -- XBOX1 and PS4 -- don't scream "next gen" to me at all since they don't add anything truly new. This new xbox only adds performance power and expanded multimedia capacity... which is OK, but a little fluffy sounding when it's dubbed the "next gen" of gaming. As far as playing games goes, it seems like a beefed up 360. When I imagine "next generation video gaming", I am imaging either some sort of brain-computer interface or gaming graphics equal to real life graphics, so this reveal is a touch disappointing. I remember when the 360 came out, I was thinking, "man, I bet the next xbox will be truly amazing!" -- I was wrong. I feel like it evolved sideways into the multimedia area more than evolved forward into a new generation of gaming. All that being said, I will probably end up grabbing one for the access to new titles -- I'm a big fan of Halo games, even the relatively bad/new ones. At least a few of my buds will definitely be getting one, so maybe I'll wait a while before pulling the trigger People aren't willing to spend tons of money for a console. They put together the best hardware given the budget constraints. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On May 23 2013 13:01 Doodsmack wrote: You thought it would be possible to create a brain-computer interface and real life graphics? Brain computer interface (BCI) is reality. Fine tuning it to the point that motor commands may be issued to control a complex game is inevitable. Primitive neural-motor prostheses enabled by BCI are already being applied to severe spinal cord injury patients. In 2006 the first pilot model was tested, where the motor cortex of a human patient was linked to a monitor informed by thoughts rather than mechanical actions. The patient was able to control the cursor, check email, and play a rudimentary game using only intentional thoughts generated at M1 region of cortex Real-life graphics means "really, really, really good graphics". I probably didn't mean literally creating "real life images" inside the screen. Just really good ones. Sorry for rocking the boat. For being worthy of calling it "next gen gaming", I want to see something big, not the addition of facebook, twitter, itunes, and comcast to Xbox. I'm not complaining about that, I'm just not amped about it, as a gamer nerd. I fully support those who are happy with it as a multimedia device. That's great too. On May 23 2013 13:01 T.O.P. wrote: People aren't willing to spend tons of money for a console. They're put together the best hardware given the budget constraints. Good point. | ||
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nam nam
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On May 23 2013 13:06 FallDownMarigold wrote: Brain computer interface (BCI) is reality. Fine tuning it to the point that motor commands may be issued to control a complex game is inevitable. Primitive neural-motor prostheses enabled by BCI are already being applied to severe spinal cord injury patients. In 2006 the first pilot model was tested, where the motor cortex of a human patient was linked to a monitor informed by thoughts rather than mechanical actions. The patient was able to control the cursor, check email, and play a rudimentary game using only intentional thoughts generated at M1 region of cortex Real-life graphics means "really, really, really good graphics". I probably didn't mean literally creating "real life images" inside the screen. Just really good ones. Sorry for rocking the boat. For being worthy of calling it "next gen gaming", I want to see something big, not the addition of facebook, twitter, itunes, and comcast to Xbox. I'm not complaining about that, I'm just not amped about it, as a gamer nerd. I fully support those who are happy with it as a multimedia device. That's great too. Good point. You need to do some homework and check up on the history of video games. Each new generation hasn't been ground-breaking like you're talking about. They merely roughly correspond to periods of 5-8 years where a new set of kids growing up will call that particular generation their "first gaming system" and some advances are made in technology. For instance, I grew up with an N64 in my house, and then a Gamecube/Xbox/360 in my high school room/college room. My cousin will grow up and look back on her younger days when she grew up with a Wii. | ||
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
Specs don't matter, it's about the experience. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On May 23 2013 13:33 T.O.P. wrote: IMO, if all the "true" gamers choose the PS4 and all the casuals choose xbox one. Microsoft will win this generation of consoles. Social gaming is much bigger than hardcore gaming these days. Specs don't matter, it's about the experience. Well, to be fair, Sony has won pretty much every generation so far (minus the Wii, but even then, Sony came in 2nd). I don't see how spitting in the face of the used game and offline gaming communities will actually help Microsoft get ahead of Sony, let alone Nintendo. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On May 23 2013 13:30 Stratos_speAr wrote: You need to do some homework and check up on the history of video games. Homework on video games... I would trade any homework for that homework!! But yeah, I guess I'm being too picky with "next gen". I still look forward to someday when *really* new ways of playing and experiencing games exist | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On May 23 2013 13:33 T.O.P. wrote: IMO, if all the "true" gamers choose the PS4 and all the casuals choose xbox one. Microsoft will win this generation of consoles. Social gaming is much bigger than hardcore gaming these days. Specs don't matter, it's about the experience. so does price. including kinect, paying for all those ea/nfl/cable/halo show deals cant be cheap. | ||
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MrMedic
Canada452 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On May 23 2013 13:06 FallDownMarigold wrote: Brain computer interface (BCI) is reality. Fine tuning it to the point that motor commands may be issued to control a complex game is inevitable. Primitive neural-motor prostheses enabled by BCI are already being applied to severe spinal cord injury patients. In 2006 the first pilot model was tested, where the motor cortex of a human patient was linked to a monitor informed by thoughts rather than mechanical actions. The patient was able to control the cursor, check email, and play a rudimentary game using only intentional thoughts generated at M1 region of cortex Real-life graphics means "really, really, really good graphics". I probably didn't mean literally creating "real life images" inside the screen. Just really good ones. Sorry for rocking the boat. For being worthy of calling it "next gen gaming", I want to see something big, not the addition of facebook, twitter, itunes, and comcast to Xbox. I'm not complaining about that, I'm just not amped about it, as a gamer nerd. I fully support those who are happy with it as a multimedia device. That's great too. Now tell me how much that medical device costs, and how close it is to being widely available in a non-medical market. | ||
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