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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 31 2013 07:00 GMT
#4261
Tony Parker is going to feast in the Finals either way. Had him above Melo in MVP rankings for most of the season.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 07:04:41
May 31 2013 07:01 GMT
#4262
Lol so your problem is me saying the Pacers are done in this series? Well statistically there is an 83% chance they are done. Add on top of that a wild backcourt that is just as likely to turn the ball over as to give an assist any time down the court AND the fact that the Heat have lost like 4 games in the last 50 = Heat should win.

Either way, the Heat have bounced back after all 3 losses this postseason to win by double digits the next game. Even if the Pacers won g6, we have no reason to think they would win a g7 IN Miami.

So the question then is what % do you think it is worth for the Heat being so dominant all year long, going against an inconsistent backcourt and having the last game at home? Is that worth at least 7% odds? If so then there is 90% and that is overwhelming. I'll take those odds.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 31 2013 07:05 GMT
#4263
Because a team that's rebounding at what would be a historic rate in the regular season while also scoring at what would have been a league-leading rate this regular season suddenly has no chance. Not to mention that this is a team that went 2-1 against the Heat in the regular season as compared to the Spurs 0-2 and the Spurs have the better chance? Alright.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 07:17:05
May 31 2013 07:15 GMT
#4264
Regular season means jack all at this point. The spurs went 2-2 against the Grizz and Warriors. The spurs were 1st in assists and 4th in scoring with Parker being injured for a long period of time. Also, in neither game vs the Heat were all of the Spurs playing. In one game you had no Parker/Duncan and I think Green or Leonard didn't play in the other.

At least the Knicks went 3-1 against the Heat in the regular season, right? They'd prob be the favs right now if they beat the Pacers...

I'm also not sure what you mean by scoring at what would have been a league-leading rate, since they were 23rd in Points per game.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 07:17:57
May 31 2013 07:17 GMT
#4265
Indy came in to tonight's game as a +7.5 underdog. Basically Vegas was expecting a comfortable Heat win.

@Onslaught: He means Indiana's playoff Offensive Rating which has been killing Miami. Lot of that due to free throw generating they didn't get tonight.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
May 31 2013 07:22 GMT
#4266
Like I said a few pages back, Indy is just prone to laying an egg every now and then. It didn't hurt them against weaker opposition in the Hawks and Knicks but against the relentless consistency of the Heat you can't afford to have an off night.

That's somewhat of an oversimplification in that Miami is a much higher calibre opposition which obviously contributes to egg-laying but I still believe there are games where Indy just isn't full switched on.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
May 31 2013 09:45 GMT
#4267
It looked pretty scary for the Heat until Lebron went godmode on them in the mid of the third. Pacers were ahead for a good portion of time and the Heat didn't look too great up to that point. I actually thought the Heat might lose the series during the first half.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 17:45:04
May 31 2013 17:43 GMT
#4268
spurs have it in the bag this year I think. They have the big men as well as Parker to shit on chalmers every single night.

Lebron would have to have his best playoff series of all time, which isn't entirely out of the question

also chalmers will have to at least put up 15 a game or bosh will have to drop 20 to keep up with the spurs O
I come in for the scraps
tokinho
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States792 Posts
May 31 2013 18:35 GMT
#4269
On June 01 2013 02:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
spurs have it in the bag this year I think. They have the big men as well as Parker to shit on chalmers every single night.

Lebron would have to have his best playoff series of all time, which isn't entirely out of the question

also chalmers will have to at least put up 15 a game or bosh will have to drop 20 to keep up with the spurs O


Good thought. I kind of feel differently tho, I don't think they need so much scoring from bosh and Chalmers. I think that the winner comes down to bench production for scoring and defensive rebounds.

Whoever has the most defensive rebounds wins. (i know that points is the satirical reply, but rebounds are what I think wins)



As far as starters go, I think miami is stronger, and they have homecourt advantage-
Chalmers, Wade, Lebron, Bosh, Haslem
Parker,Green, Leonard,Duncan, Splitter

But not by much. Duncan, splitter and Diaw have shown that they can stop bigs and i think the spurs have more rebounding power. If the heat figure out how to deal with this, they win the series. Recently, The heat have shown that they are far far superior in terms of flopping.

Spurs bench-
Neal, Ginobili, tmac, bonner, blair
vs

Heat Bench-
Battier, cole, miller, Birdman, Ray Allen

The heat are stacked on their bench with shooters, but have very little bench defense besides birdman, and Battier. Outside, I don't think that Miller or Allen can slow down Ginobili. So I think when Ginobili comes out, that Battier should defend him.


Everyone always says that the heat are so explosive, but I think actually the spurs are the better team at controlling the tempo and if they have the lead in the third quarter +5 or so I think they win almost every game.

Lastly, The teams have completely different coaching styles. Spoestra is lets his players play a lot of one on one and doesn't favor ball movement.(not as much as D'antoni who has never heard of ball movement and just does mismatches resulting in injured players) A good defensive team like the spurs will result in a very slow game with a lot of fouls and low field goal percentages. Kind of a boring series to watch. I bet only 1 game over 105 points.

If Bench production is good for the spurs, and they get the rebounds they win the series in 6 games. If the heat get good bench play, and can keep up underneath the basket, they win in 7.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 31 2013 18:44 GMT
#4270
On June 01 2013 02:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
spurs have it in the bag this year I think. They have the big men as well as Parker to shit on chalmers every single night.

Lebron would have to have his best playoff series of all time, which isn't entirely out of the question

also chalmers will have to at least put up 15 a game or bosh will have to drop 20 to keep up with the spurs O

I don't know. I like Green and Leonard, but they're at a larger disadvantage against Lebron than George is. Plus I'm not sure the Spurs can defend against the 3 as well as the Pacers are.

If the Pacers weren't guarding the 3 so well, this series would be lights out. That's what gets Miami their awesome spacing.

Too hard to call, imo.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 31 2013 18:48 GMT
#4271
Why wouldn't Lebron just guard Parker like he guarded Rose in 2011? That is the luxury of having Lebron, he can do whatever. Then the Spurs would have to run Parker off the ball and do a lot of pindown screens and shit just to get him the ball. Maybe the Heat don't want Lebron to do that on defense, but its not like he cant.
Freeeeeeedom
Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
May 31 2013 19:32 GMT
#4272
On June 01 2013 03:48 cLutZ wrote:
Why wouldn't Lebron just guard Parker like he guarded Rose in 2011? That is the luxury of having Lebron, he can do whatever. Then the Spurs would have to run Parker off the ball and do a lot of pindown screens and shit just to get him the ball. Maybe the Heat don't want Lebron to do that on defense, but its not like he cant.


Not a great analogy considering how well the spurs play team offense compared to a rose led squad.
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
May 31 2013 20:00 GMT
#4273
On June 01 2013 03:48 cLutZ wrote:
Why wouldn't Lebron just guard Parker like he guarded Rose in 2011? That is the luxury of having Lebron, he can do whatever. Then the Spurs would have to run Parker off the ball and do a lot of pindown screens and shit just to get him the ball. Maybe the Heat don't want Lebron to do that on defense, but its not like he cant.


not to mention wade and noris cole. when i think of great defense chalmers isn't the first to come to mind. id put him on parker after wade and nc.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 31 2013 20:04 GMT
#4274
I think the Spurs would welcome a Parker-Wade matchup, what with Wade's knee and how terrible he's been looking lately.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 31 2013 20:38 GMT
#4275
Wade's been Miami's best defender this series. He'll be fine.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 31 2013 20:43 GMT
#4276
you guys have convinced me. Whoever shoots more 3s will win the finals basically, lol
I come in for the scraps
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 31 2013 22:25 GMT
#4277
On June 01 2013 05:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
you guys have convinced me. Whoever shoots more 3s will win the finals basically, lol


*Makes.

The Heat's roleplayers have decided to be super inconsistent from 3 this postseason, and we don't know if Bonner et al are going to repeat last years WCF performance (or nonperformance).
Freeeeeeedom
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 31 2013 23:20 GMT
#4278
David Stern agrees, and said so as part of “Speaking of Sports with Rob Simmelkjaer” on NBC Sports Radio, to be broadcast on NBCSportsRadio.com on Sunday at 8 a.m. Eastern.


Here is the money quote:

“I do think he should have been ejected. I looked at the replays and, it seems to me, there was no immediate push or shove of him, he just hauled off and knocked down Tyler Hansbrough. I don’t know what he was doing. And then he pushed him. And then he did not go gracefully to the bench.”

Stern then says a “serious review of activities” should happen and to “stay tuned.”


http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/31/stern-tells-nbc-andersen-should-have-been-ejected-for-shove-of-hansbrough/
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 31 2013 23:39 GMT
#4279
Makes sense. But, just cus it makes sense doesn't mean stern will do it
Freeeeeeedom
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
May 31 2013 23:41 GMT
#4280
I wonder who would have thought 2 years ago that Birdman would have set a franchise record and be on on pace for an all time postseason record.
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