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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
June 01 2013 12:25 GMT
#4301
Birdman didn't get tossed because Hansbrough stood his ground while Lebron fell over (flopped over more like I mean seriously Nazr is like half his size)

It's one of the things I agree with JVG about, the refs put WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY too much fucking emphasis on whether or not the players fall down. This Birdman vs Nazr contrast is a perfect example of that in action.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 20:41:41
June 01 2013 20:09 GMT
#4302
On June 01 2013 14:58 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 14:01 Jibba wrote:
On June 01 2013 13:54 DystopiaX wrote:
I thought Andersen's was worse. Push then the shove, and Nazr did get a little tangled up first.

I am a little biased though.

No, I agree. I only saw the chest bump/shove at first but after the game I saw the full thing, and I definitely think Birdman's was worse. It was basically three things. Shoulder, shove, and then having to be restrained by the ref/not leaving in an appropriate manner.

What's funny/sad is that as bad as it was that Anderson wasn't thrown out, it was even worse that they gave Hansbrough a tech.


I dont understand how Birdman isn't getting more than 1 game. Who gives a shit about the "push", sure that is worth MAYBE 1 game. However, the "check" before it would be flagrant 2 even in 1970...in the NFL.


More than one game? Are you for real? Unless you throw down or elbow a dude in the throat (a la Pittman last year) you're not getting more than one game. The suspension itself could be considered debatable, but multi-game? Never.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 01 2013 20:23 GMT
#4303
On June 01 2013 21:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
Birdman didn't get tossed because Hansbrough stood his ground while Lebron fell over (flopped over more like I mean seriously Nazr is like half his size)

It's one of the things I agree with JVG about, the refs put WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY too much fucking emphasis on whether or not the players fall down. This Birdman vs Nazr contrast is a perfect example of that in action.

1. Nazr's a big dude
2. Lebron was standing flat footed. If you're not braced for impact, it's very easy to be knocked over
3. I think the refs missed the initial slam and only caught the shove. Hanbrough didn't stand his ground on the slam, he was also knocked over. I think the refs just missed that.
4. The shove was different because Anderson and Hansbrough were both posturing at each other and both bumped chests first. It was not like Nazr blindsiding Lebron at all. The shoulder slam was.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 21:58:19
June 01 2013 21:53 GMT
#4304
On June 02 2013 05:09 BoZiffer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 14:58 cLutZ wrote:
On June 01 2013 14:01 Jibba wrote:
On June 01 2013 13:54 DystopiaX wrote:
I thought Andersen's was worse. Push then the shove, and Nazr did get a little tangled up first.

I am a little biased though.

No, I agree. I only saw the chest bump/shove at first but after the game I saw the full thing, and I definitely think Birdman's was worse. It was basically three things. Shoulder, shove, and then having to be restrained by the ref/not leaving in an appropriate manner.

What's funny/sad is that as bad as it was that Anderson wasn't thrown out, it was even worse that they gave Hansbrough a tech.


I dont understand how Birdman isn't getting more than 1 game. Who gives a shit about the "push", sure that is worth MAYBE 1 game. However, the "check" before it would be flagrant 2 even in 1970...in the NFL.


More than one game? Are you for real? Unless you throw down or elbow a dude in the throat (a la Pittman last year) you're not getting more than one game. The suspension itself could be considered debatable, but multi-game? Never.


If you look at it logically:

The check that started the incident (which was worse than the push) = 1 game.
The push = 1 game (based on precedent).

Edit: Precedent that I disagree with by the way. A push to the chest of a stationary player is barely Flagrant 1 material IMO.
Freeeeeeedom
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
June 01 2013 22:23 GMT
#4305
On June 02 2013 06:53 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:09 BoZiffer wrote:
On June 01 2013 14:58 cLutZ wrote:
On June 01 2013 14:01 Jibba wrote:
On June 01 2013 13:54 DystopiaX wrote:
I thought Andersen's was worse. Push then the shove, and Nazr did get a little tangled up first.

I am a little biased though.

No, I agree. I only saw the chest bump/shove at first but after the game I saw the full thing, and I definitely think Birdman's was worse. It was basically three things. Shoulder, shove, and then having to be restrained by the ref/not leaving in an appropriate manner.

What's funny/sad is that as bad as it was that Anderson wasn't thrown out, it was even worse that they gave Hansbrough a tech.


I dont understand how Birdman isn't getting more than 1 game. Who gives a shit about the "push", sure that is worth MAYBE 1 game. However, the "check" before it would be flagrant 2 even in 1970...in the NFL.


More than one game? Are you for real? Unless you throw down or elbow a dude in the throat (a la Pittman last year) you're not getting more than one game. The suspension itself could be considered debatable, but multi-game? Never.


If you look at it logically:

The check that started the incident (which was worse than the push) = 1 game.
The push = 1 game (based on precedent).

Edit: Precedent that I disagree with by the way. A push to the chest of a stationary player is barely Flagrant 1 material IMO.


Ok, I see what you're saying. Question though - which push precedent are you using? A bunch of NBA guys think no single thing in the game warranted a game suspension but the combination off things (check, push, general behavior/tone of the series) culminated in the single game.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 01 2013 22:30 GMT
#4306
On June 02 2013 07:23 BoZiffer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 06:53 cLutZ wrote:
On June 02 2013 05:09 BoZiffer wrote:
On June 01 2013 14:58 cLutZ wrote:
On June 01 2013 14:01 Jibba wrote:
On June 01 2013 13:54 DystopiaX wrote:
I thought Andersen's was worse. Push then the shove, and Nazr did get a little tangled up first.

I am a little biased though.

No, I agree. I only saw the chest bump/shove at first but after the game I saw the full thing, and I definitely think Birdman's was worse. It was basically three things. Shoulder, shove, and then having to be restrained by the ref/not leaving in an appropriate manner.

What's funny/sad is that as bad as it was that Anderson wasn't thrown out, it was even worse that they gave Hansbrough a tech.


I dont understand how Birdman isn't getting more than 1 game. Who gives a shit about the "push", sure that is worth MAYBE 1 game. However, the "check" before it would be flagrant 2 even in 1970...in the NFL.


More than one game? Are you for real? Unless you throw down or elbow a dude in the throat (a la Pittman last year) you're not getting more than one game. The suspension itself could be considered debatable, but multi-game? Never.


If you look at it logically:

The check that started the incident (which was worse than the push) = 1 game.
The push = 1 game (based on precedent).

Edit: Precedent that I disagree with by the way. A push to the chest of a stationary player is barely Flagrant 1 material IMO.


Ok, I see what you're saying. Question though - which push precedent are you using? A bunch of NBA guys think no single thing in the game warranted a game suspension but the combination off things (check, push, general behavior/tone of the series) culminated in the single game.




This precedent. That push = 1 game.
Freeeeeeedom
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 22:43:56
June 01 2013 22:34 GMT
#4307
On June 02 2013 07:30 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 07:23 BoZiffer wrote:
On June 02 2013 06:53 cLutZ wrote:
On June 02 2013 05:09 BoZiffer wrote:
On June 01 2013 14:58 cLutZ wrote:
On June 01 2013 14:01 Jibba wrote:
On June 01 2013 13:54 DystopiaX wrote:
I thought Andersen's was worse. Push then the shove, and Nazr did get a little tangled up first.

I am a little biased though.

No, I agree. I only saw the chest bump/shove at first but after the game I saw the full thing, and I definitely think Birdman's was worse. It was basically three things. Shoulder, shove, and then having to be restrained by the ref/not leaving in an appropriate manner.

What's funny/sad is that as bad as it was that Anderson wasn't thrown out, it was even worse that they gave Hansbrough a tech.


I dont understand how Birdman isn't getting more than 1 game. Who gives a shit about the "push", sure that is worth MAYBE 1 game. However, the "check" before it would be flagrant 2 even in 1970...in the NFL.


More than one game? Are you for real? Unless you throw down or elbow a dude in the throat (a la Pittman last year) you're not getting more than one game. The suspension itself could be considered debatable, but multi-game? Never.


If you look at it logically:

The check that started the incident (which was worse than the push) = 1 game.
The push = 1 game (based on precedent).

Edit: Precedent that I disagree with by the way. A push to the chest of a stationary player is barely Flagrant 1 material IMO.


Ok, I see what you're saying. Question though - which push precedent are you using? A bunch of NBA guys think no single thing in the game warranted a game suspension but the combination off things (check, push, general behavior/tone of the series) culminated in the single game.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syOZC7e3t6A

This precedent. That push = 1 game.


He was ejected only though, not suspended. Anderson while not ejected, was suspended without pay, which is a steeper penalty than Nazr.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 01 2013 22:52 GMT
#4308
On June 02 2013 07:34 BoZiffer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 07:30 cLutZ wrote:
On June 02 2013 07:23 BoZiffer wrote:
On June 02 2013 06:53 cLutZ wrote:
On June 02 2013 05:09 BoZiffer wrote:
On June 01 2013 14:58 cLutZ wrote:
On June 01 2013 14:01 Jibba wrote:
On June 01 2013 13:54 DystopiaX wrote:
I thought Andersen's was worse. Push then the shove, and Nazr did get a little tangled up first.

I am a little biased though.

No, I agree. I only saw the chest bump/shove at first but after the game I saw the full thing, and I definitely think Birdman's was worse. It was basically three things. Shoulder, shove, and then having to be restrained by the ref/not leaving in an appropriate manner.

What's funny/sad is that as bad as it was that Anderson wasn't thrown out, it was even worse that they gave Hansbrough a tech.


I dont understand how Birdman isn't getting more than 1 game. Who gives a shit about the "push", sure that is worth MAYBE 1 game. However, the "check" before it would be flagrant 2 even in 1970...in the NFL.


More than one game? Are you for real? Unless you throw down or elbow a dude in the throat (a la Pittman last year) you're not getting more than one game. The suspension itself could be considered debatable, but multi-game? Never.


If you look at it logically:

The check that started the incident (which was worse than the push) = 1 game.
The push = 1 game (based on precedent).

Edit: Precedent that I disagree with by the way. A push to the chest of a stationary player is barely Flagrant 1 material IMO.


Ok, I see what you're saying. Question though - which push precedent are you using? A bunch of NBA guys think no single thing in the game warranted a game suspension but the combination off things (check, push, general behavior/tone of the series) culminated in the single game.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syOZC7e3t6A

This precedent. That push = 1 game.


He was ejected only though, not suspended. Anderson while not ejected, was suspended without pay, which is a steeper penalty than Nazr.


This is true. I guess you could see it like 1.5 games worth of fouls based on precedent then.
Freeeeeeedom
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 01:00:13
June 02 2013 00:59 GMT
#4309
6/6 three pointers omg

6/7 now for the heat lol
ace hwaiting!!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 02 2013 01:04 GMT
#4310
Pacers have locked down Dwayne Wade all series. It's pretty amazing how they're winning this without their second best player contributing on offense and Bosh not doing too hot on any end either.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 02 2013 01:14 GMT
#4311
Just started watching this quarter but Miami looks like shit right now
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 02 2013 01:24 GMT
#4312
On June 02 2013 10:14 DystopiaX wrote:
Just started watching this quarter but Miami looks like shit right now

Probably cause lebron was off the floor. Wade just cannot run the offense whatsoever against indiana.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 02 2013 01:31 GMT
#4313
Feels like indiana has been playing better but they missed some easy shots.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
June 02 2013 01:31 GMT
#4314
Wade is so freaking inconsistent, but Norris Cole is going to be amazing in another year or 2
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
June 02 2013 01:32 GMT
#4315
so many missed dunks this qtr :O
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 02 2013 01:38 GMT
#4316
On June 02 2013 10:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 10:14 DystopiaX wrote:
Just started watching this quarter but Miami looks like shit right now

Probably cause lebron was off the floor. Wade just cannot run the offense whatsoever against indiana.


him and Bosh both have knee injuries. As long as they keep playing good defense I'm not concerned.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
June 02 2013 01:40 GMT
#4317
Amazed the game is so close when Miami playing so bad.
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
June 02 2013 02:00 GMT
#4318
lol lebron falling on shaq
ace hwaiting!!
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
June 02 2013 02:02 GMT
#4319
Cmon, this is getting so fucking ridiculous.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
June 02 2013 02:02 GMT
#4320
Man Lebron... smh...
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